I have no issue with gifting king / donating king. I have a problem with King deleting though. Currently, I see king donation as a skill issue where the aggressor was unable to adequately prevent passage of the king to another player. *important to note: my view on this has changed quite a bit though, but more recently it's been quite stable in this position.
@@AussieDrongo King donation and king deletion are equally scum move. It is against the spirit of the game and you know it because we've seen you get angry at people doing it against you. Be better.
@@AussieDrongo i heavily disagree on that skill issue take.. just accept you ve lost to someone and let the remaining players fairly fight for the king snipe.
@@AussieDrongo skill issue is not an excuse for bad sportsmanship...sure it can ALSO be a skill issue, but that doesn't excuse the behavior itself...you lost but don't want to accept defeat so you try and screw over the opponent, even if the outcome doesn't change for you (since you're out of the game either way)...unless you're opponent is your friend IRL (or if they were an ass to you in the game*), its just immature
@@AussieDrongo nah thats very scummy. not only did you prevent him from getting the kill you actually sabotaged a person as you had no intention of winning
I know you were tired, but you were winning every step of the way there... you were at his walls, not once did he get to yours, he only hit your proxy base. Also, your army were way faster and you could have used it to your advantage by going at him from multiple angles... You figured it out at the end when you got to his landmark, your villagers had time to set up a proxy siege workshop to assist with the snipe. Easy to say, i know.. I just want you to win 😂 Props to orrange though.
Donating king to someone else is toxic behavior. The only reason to do it is to have a sense of revenge against the person who knocked you out of the game. Have some good sportsmanship and let the person that defeated you take the king. Disappointed in you Drongo. Calling it a skill issue is deflecting from admitting that it is actually an anger issue.
Very stressful game, you did well Drongo against the late game order of the dragon. They are terrifying when they have the right unit cap to build with.
Aussie when you do that with the relic at the beginning on purple. you need to bring 5 units like spears with you, you would have been able to use them to tank everything while those 3 monks took the relic. Also I just do not get why putting Relics in towers is not something Aussie goes for right away and put an emplacement in them, yeah he did the one relic, but Aussie had 3 by the time yellow attacked.
is it my impression or drongo could have taken a kill at the very beginning when teal was eliminated but the king wasn't murdered and just a few minutes later blue actually took teal king
the *new* king for FFA? OOTD has been by far the most OP civ in this mode since day 1 of quick match launch. everything about the OOTD scales beautifully with this mode.
Tyris really wasn't that good. Some people just have lucky games. That dude just got lucky. That is all. No matter what people think, sometimes its all about luck.
Hey @drongo what if there is a change where ppl get the pop space get carried over for each kill, if Y player guy kills X gets 50, if some kills X they get 100 or how much ever he got as additional for each kill he made? This would also counter the pesky king donation 🤔
Would over incentivize people to gang up on anyone that has two or more kills. 1 kill 50 pop is fine imho especially with some of the early game shenanigans that can and does happen 😊
Ootd with any additional pop is a big threat but the lack of defensive placements and relics inside is a huge nerf to the civilization that should most definitely be using them.
It's just videos that come out sooner. If you're a fan of Drongo and can spare $5 it's worth it! If you'd be unwise to commit to a $5/month sub, then that's fine too, you will still see the same videos just later :)
That’s interesting. I see it as preventing a runaway player, similar to targeting the player with the most kills. Maybe a little more of a gray area when it happens at the start of a game, though.
You were complaining about ppl donating their kings to someone else when you almost killed them in the first few FFAs you played not deletion. Although in this case it is not out of spite but to make the game more fair for green so it's ok i guess
I will call the macro police, you have an "incomplete farm economy around Aachen chapel" violation
I don't think he have farm upgraded. He should be flooding by food with 100 villagers on farms.
1.15 hrs in, not one defensive keep in your base and you have 8,800 stone 😂
Why the fk you gifted your king?
Didnt you glame everyone else for doing it? I actually cant believe you did that on tape
I have no issue with gifting king / donating king. I have a problem with King deleting though. Currently, I see king donation as a skill issue where the aggressor was unable to adequately prevent passage of the king to another player.
*important to note: my view on this has changed quite a bit though, but more recently it's been quite stable in this position.
@@AussieDrongo King donation and king deletion are equally scum move. It is against the spirit of the game and you know it because we've seen you get angry at people doing it against you. Be better.
@@AussieDrongo i heavily disagree on that skill issue take.. just accept you ve lost to someone and let the remaining players fairly fight for the king snipe.
@@AussieDrongo skill issue is not an excuse for bad sportsmanship...sure it can ALSO be a skill issue, but that doesn't excuse the behavior itself...you lost but don't want to accept defeat so you try and screw over the opponent, even if the outcome doesn't change for you (since you're out of the game either way)...unless you're opponent is your friend IRL (or if they were an ass to you in the game*), its just immature
@@AussieDrongo nah thats very scummy. not only did you prevent him from getting the kill you actually sabotaged a person as you had no intention of winning
Drongo: Takes vils off farms. Has 10 vils on food for 20 minutes.
Also Drongo: How is food that we dont have?
i have been yelling like 5 minutes straight about the idle monk with relic on the north of your base.
"3 ways can be notoriously difficult to maneuver"
I know you were tired, but you were winning every step of the way there... you were at his walls, not once did he get to yours, he only hit your proxy base.
Also, your army were way faster and you could have used it to your advantage by going at him from multiple angles... You figured it out at the end when you got to his landmark, your villagers had time to set up a proxy siege workshop to assist with the snipe.
Easy to say, i know.. I just want you to win 😂
Props to orrange though.
1:11 you absolutely couldve locked him in with another wall. AOE2 strat brotha, it hurts to see it not happen.
Donating king to someone else is toxic behavior. The only reason to do it is to have a sense of revenge against the person who knocked you out of the game. Have some good sportsmanship and let the person that defeated you take the king. Disappointed in you Drongo. Calling it a skill issue is deflecting from admitting that it is actually an anger issue.
Especially considering that he was slightly winning that push until green backstabbed him.
Not if the person is cheating or the player you're giving it to only has 200 pop.
The massive cliff funnel leading into your base *yeah fully walled* 😂 done this so many times
Very stressful game, you did well Drongo against the late game order of the dragon. They are terrifying when they have the right unit cap to build with.
Aussie when you do that with the relic at the beginning on purple. you need to bring 5 units like spears with you, you would have been able to use them to tank everything while those 3 monks took the relic. Also I just do not get why putting Relics in towers is not something Aussie goes for right away and put an emplacement in them, yeah he did the one relic, but Aussie had 3 by the time yellow attacked.
FU drong for donating the king!!!
is it my impression or drongo could have taken a kill at the very beginning when teal was eliminated but the king wasn't murdered
and just a few minutes later blue actually took teal king
King donation 💩
1:20:30 you'd be banned if that was outback octagon and you know it
green was doiong nothing and you still donated the king to him? :O
I really watched all but one of the members only videos from today 😂
*throws flag* Unoccupied Aachen Farms, 15 yard penalty, still third down.
24:32 dude… Lmaoo what was that? They just killed themselves.
the *new* king for FFA? OOTD has been by far the most OP civ in this mode since day 1 of quick match launch. everything about the OOTD scales beautifully with this mode.
not speaking of salt. I'm japan main, but I have won 4 out of 5 games on ootd.
Not killing green was the issue honestly. that extra 50 pop he wasnt using would of helped.
Tyris really wasn't that good. Some people just have lucky games. That dude just got lucky. That is all. No matter what people think, sometimes its all about luck.
Why didn't you have the villagers produce artillery units? In the last attack, you quickly destroyed the building.
47:00 Ghost whispering?!?!??!
12:50 holy shit! Nice!
I watch all your video's at 2x speed to save time. Makes your APM almost as high as beasty, but it's still watchable.
He hates the creamer
Hey @drongo what if there is a change where ppl get the pop space get carried over for each kill, if Y player guy kills X gets 50, if some kills X they get 100 or how much ever he got as additional for each kill he made? This would also counter the pesky king donation 🤔
Would over incentivize people to gang up on anyone that has two or more kills. 1 kill 50 pop is fine imho especially with some of the early game shenanigans that can and does happen 😊
with 8000 stone you could have had so many keeps or canon emplacements for easy defense. next time!
The Beasty and Drongo effect 😮
Ootd with any additional pop is a big threat but the lack of defensive placements and relics inside is a huge nerf to the civilization that should most definitely be using them.
green played game of thrones with you :D I waited for that moment whole time
"Donating the king is okay because skill issue", says the Conqueror III player toying with gold FFA lobbies like they are a personal sandbox...
Very stressful game to watch this time.
I skipped so much oil
Why even the Chinese name, if you want people to communicate, you're saying you can't understand them up front?
Sometimes I am astounded AussieDrongo can be so bad at some plays, almost gold level mistakes
Rank means nothing in this game due to the hidden mmr. There are plenty of gold players who would mop the floor with you and others
U don't have greased axles for so long in match am getting so much ik
King donation, no good drongo you upset us
All this talk about members only vids has me questioning my fiscal responsibility
It's just videos that come out sooner. If you're a fan of Drongo and can spare $5 it's worth it! If you'd be unwise to commit to a $5/month sub, then that's fine too, you will still see the same videos just later :)
maybe if you beat him in a 1v1 match, he will make you an honorary member
Sorry drongo but you lost my respect there donating the king. You are becoming part of the problem
bruh he did it because green didn't have but only 200 pop and orange was possibly cheating.
nah its fine
That’s interesting. I see it as preventing a runaway player, similar to targeting the player with the most kills. Maybe a little more of a gray area when it happens at the start of a game, though.
Smooth brain take
Spoiler:
Green won
Why not take his trade offline ...it was obviousnhemwas trading because no orange was on gold nodes
bro can you focus?
You were complaining about ppl donating their kings to someone else when you almost killed them in the first few FFAs you played not deletion. Although in this case it is not out of spite but to make the game more fair for green so it's ok i guess
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wdym a new
beetch boi gave up !!
what a shame, what a waste !!
dislike !!