Japan is very angry! China Indonesia high speed railway is completed, why not India?
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 28 ส.ค. 2024
- On September 7th, the Jakarta to Bandung high-speed railway, a collaborative effort between China and Indonesia, commenced its operations, reducing the travel time between the two cities from 3.5 hours to just 40 minutes. Commercial ticket sales will officially begin in early October, marking Indonesia's entry into the era of high-speed rail.
The Jakarta-Bandung high-speed railway is Indonesia's and Southeast Asia's first high-speed rail project, utilizing Chinese technology and standards throughout its entirety. The total length of the line is 142.3 kilometers, with a maximum operating speed of 350 kilometers per hour. The construction of the Jakarta-Bandung high-speed railway posed significant challenges due to the complex geological conditions along the route. The project carefully selected its path to avoid landslides, volcanic areas, and other adverse geological conditions to the greatest extent possible. It also incorporated innovative designs, including bridges with superior seismic performance, ballastless tracks for a smoother ride, and advanced train control systems for enhanced functionality. The project was built to high standards and includes 13 tunnels and 56 bridges.
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The western forgot about Great Wall of China built in 771 BCE lasting for 2800 years and Borobudur of Indonesia built in 778 AD lasting for 1200 years. The ancient Asia's advanced technology.
that is very true ! they are the nations which was already superpower that time.
BUT SIR MY INDIA IS THE REAL SUPERPOWER NUMBER ONE 🤗🇮🇳 WE HAVE THE BEST INFRASTRUCTURE AND HIGHSPEED RAIL 🤗🇮🇳 MEANWHILE IN INDONESIA PEOPLE HOMELESS EVERYWHERE AND THEY ALSO POOR DONT HAVE CAR . THIS WHY IM SO LUCKY LIVE IN SUPER INDIA THE CLEANEST COUNTRY IN THE WORLD 🇮🇳🤗 , WE NEVER SCAM! WE GIVE RESPECT TO ALL WOMEN THEY CAN WALK SAFELY ALONE AT NIGHT AND WE HAVE CLEAN FOOD AND TOILET EVERYWHERE 🇮🇳🤗🚽, I KNOW MANY POOR PEOPLE JEALOUS WITH SUPER RICH INDIA 🤗🇮🇳🤗🇮🇳🤗🇮🇳🤗🇮🇳🤗🇮🇳🤗🇮🇳
@@indiasuperclean6969halo gays.. anda lucu 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
@@dr.feelgood9104From 1st century till 17th century, INDIA was the superpower in terms of Economy, Science and technology. go read about it.
@@shikhargupta5889 why read about past?
Do you know that today there are 200 million malnourished childrens in India?
Forget past live in present
Japan and India revised their contract. Japan will build a flying carpet, just sit on the carpet, close your eyes and lo and behold…..you have done round the world and back.
LOL
Savage 😂
🤣🤣🤣
Imaginary journey on flying carpet is faster than the speed of light. That's what the fakirs are good at, That's probably why they chose Japan.
Abe is dead. Modi will be soon. Still, the rail is not completed.🤣
I bet, with the cooperation of China, the extension of Jakarta-Bandung line will be completed before the Mumbai-Ahmedabad one in India.
the problem is land acquisition. you cannot lay tracks in mid air, you need to acquire air rights as well. so the longer the delay, the more expensive it will be.
India and Japan deserved each other.
China is not keen on the extension. No money can be made and it is a very difficult project...Last project many materials and equipment were stolen !
The Jakarta-Badung line is already completed and as per this video first tickets will be sold from next month onwards.
Mumbai-Ahmedabad HSR is less than 10% complete.
The state of Texas in the US had to give up the construction plan of HSR because of the same problem of land acquisition. @@thecomment9489
The land acquisition in India is following due procedures and in Indonesia the Gov can make unilateral decisions. Japans proposal included too much conditions in favor of Japan Investment… the Chinese proposal was simple and very straight forward but it also included a bigger rail network development picture
Saya dari Indonesia 🇮🇩 terimakasih ke pada negara China 🇨🇳 yang telah berhasil menyeselesaikan proyek kereta cepat di Indonesia 🇮🇩.🎉🕺🚝💃🇮🇩🇨🇳
Ngeri skali Jaminannya APBN
terima kasih telah menanmkan mind set bayar hutang kpd anak cucu adam, kini saatnya jau dan aku bubar,
Be careful with china in south China see and one belt road project...love u Indonesia from india
Indonesia🥰 love from China
@@HanGuo-yn2hn is youtube available in china 🤔?
Semula banyak warga Indonesia yang mencaci maki Jokowi karena memilih China dari pada Jepang dalam membangun kereta cepat. Tapi kini semua memahami karena sebelumnya masyarakat awam tidak tahu apa yang sebenarnya terjadi di balik semua ini.
Itu orang orang yang mempunyai kepentingan politik di belakang orang yang mencaci maki.Tapi mayoritas masyarakat Indonesia walaupun tak tau sebabnya Jokowi memilih China menerima hal itu
Apa yang bisa di harapkan dari negera jepang yang masih dalam kendali negara lain(USA). dia(JPN) sendiri tidak bisa melepaskan kepala nya dari tindihan kaki(USA). Terus apa yang bisa kita harapkan dari negara seperti itu?
Byk warga baik yg lulusan SD atau yg sarjana TERMAKAN berita Hoax..
FAKTA.
Studi kelayakan oleh Jepang 1.5 th menyimpulkan TIDAK LAYAK. Bila dipaksakan dibangun Jepang minta jaminan tetapi ditolak, tdk diberi.
Biaya yg diajukan Jepang 6.05 milyar dolar dg bunga 0.1% /th.
Datang cina dg studi kelayakan 0.5th, mungkin juga ambil data dr studi kelayakan Jepang. Cina ajukan biaya 5.95 milyar dolar.
Minta jaminan dikasih pemerintah Indonesia. Suku bunga utang 3.4%. Jauh lbh besar dr Jepang. Biaya bengkak menjadi 8.2 milyar dolar. Waktu pengerjaan juga molor.
CATAT, pengamat kebijakan publik Agus Pambagyo sempàt bertanya kpd jokowi mengapa ka ceoat ini dikerjakan, dijawab jokowi bhw dia (jokowi) yg memutuskan. AP memberitahu jokowi bhw ka cepat ini TIDAK LAYAK. Tetapi jokowi tetap ngeyel.
Catat pula bhw Faisal Basri, ekonom eks dosen UI bilang bhw balik modal proyek ini selama 160th !
AP bilang ka ceoat ini akan TEKOR 5-10T/th selama masa konsesi 50-80th.
Ka ceoat ini rutenya juga tdk sampai kota Bandung, hanya di Padalarang. Itu msh cukup jauh dr kota Bandung n jalur macet.
Jokowi semula bilang bhw ka cepat ini TIDAK AKAN memakai APBN. Belakangan akhirnya pakai APBN. Ini TIDAK KONSISTEN alias BOHONG alias CEROBOH.
Masih mau bilang org yg tdk setuju dg ka cepat ini termakan HOAKS????
@@iSantiko
Jangan bodoh a oura2 tdk tahu.
FAKTA.
Studi kelayakan oleh Jepang 1.5 th menyimpulkan TIDAK LAYAK. Bila dipaksakan dibangun Jepang minta jaminan tetapi ditolak, tdk diberi.
Biaya yg diajukan Jepang 6.05 milyar dolar dg bunga 0.1% /th.
Datang cina dg studi kelayakan 0.5th, mungkin juga ambil data dr studi kelayakan Jepang. Cina ajukan biaya 5.95 milyar dolar.
Minta jaminan dikasih pemerintah Indonesia. Suku bunga utang 3.4%. Jauh lbh besar dr Jepang. Biaya bengkak menjadi 8.2 milyar dolar. Waktu pengerjaan juga molor.
CATAT, pengamat kebijakan publik Agus Pambagyo sempàt bertanya kpd jokowi mengapa ka ceoat ini dikerjakan, dijawab jokowi bhw dia (jokowi) yg memutuskan. AP memberitahu jokowi bhw ka cepat ini TIDAK LAYAK. Tetapi jokowi tetap ngeyel.
Catat pula bhw Faisal Basri, ekonom eks dosen UI bilang bhw balik modal proyek ini selama 160th !
AP bilang ka ceoat ini akan TEKOR 5-10T/th selama masa konsesi 50-80th.
Ka ceoat ini rutenya juga tdk sampai kota Bandung, hanya di Padalarang. Itu msh cukup jauh dr kota Bandung n jalur macet.
Jokowi semula bilang bhw ka cepat ini TIDAK AKAN memakai APBN. Belakangan akhirnya pakai APBN. Ini TIDAK KONSISTEN alias BOHONG alias CEROBOH.
Masih mau bilang org yg tdk setuju dg ka cepat ini termakan HOAKS????
CONGRATULATIONS !!!
Cooperation for mutual growth.
Looking forward to my visiting Indonesia.
Vii radhur waitiing for haigh klaas jepain bulliit trein. Cpp tofu trein caan collaeps yanytaim, cpp expaart Gordoon Cang olredi predik it
@@jaihindersingh who is Gordoon?
@@AkuCintaIslamVideo Phamoos Amerikkan heeroo an expaart abowd de cpp. He olweis appiiar on relaiabel westurn mediia laik foxx neus
Come to Indonesia ❤
Don't want to cooperate with SOUTH KOREA, JAPAN and the U.S. who are SNEAKY and STINGY and don't share their technology. They will only make your country always dependent on them, and they always make money every year from your country.
Just look at automotive in your country, their products dominate the market in your country and what technology is given to your country?
Find a country that wants to share technology to be applied in your country and don't want to be made a cash cow by an ADVANCED COUNTRY. Otherwise your country will always be a DEVELOPING COUNTRY.
jepang , Korea dan eropa selalu pelit utk transfer teknologi ..beda dengan China yg memberikan transfer teknologi , makanya Indonesia senang bekerja sama dengan China 👍🔥
Japan is not sincere about building high speed rail for other countries
Winning projects is just to counter China and delay the development of other countries
Refer to the high speed rail project in India
Thailand high speed rail project
Vietnam high-speed rail project
All of this has been delayed by Japan, at great economic cost
Right...Japan is halfhearted. Tokyo only sees Indonesia is a big market for their car and motorcycles.
Don't want to cooperate with SOUTH KOREA, JAPAN and the U.S. who are SNEAKY and STINGY and don't share their technology. They will only make your country always dependent on them, and they always make money every year from your country.
Just look at automotive in your country, their products dominate the market in your country and what technology is given to your country?
Find a country that wants to share technology to be applied in your country and don't want to be made a cash cow by an ADVANCED COUNTRY. Otherwise your country will always be a DEVELOPING COUNTRY.
Karena China tau kalau mereka bakal berinovasi terus bro. China ini beda dengan negara barat plus Korea dan Jepang. China ini punya basis ekonomi yang kuat dan superior dari segala sisi. Kalau negara barat plus jepang dan Korea, mereka harus 'laporan' dulu ke Amerika sebagai ally-nya 😂😂😂
and vietnam@@Asantadie
Fabulous! China 🇨🇳 is truly walking its talk. ❤
Unlike other braggers out there whom didn't "walk the talk"! My advice is...👉You don't walk... You don't talk..!! Okayyy.... 😡😠
BUT SIR MY INDIA IS THE REAL SUPERPOWER NUMBER ONE 🤗🇮🇳 WE HAVE THE BEST INFRASTRUCTURE AND HIGHSPEED RAIL 🤗🇮🇳 MEANWHILE IN INDONESIA PEOPLE HOMELESS EVERYWHERE AND THEY ALSO POOR DONT HAVE CAR . THIS WHY IM SO LUCKY LIVE IN SUPER INDIA THE CLEANEST COUNTRY IN THE WORLD 🇮🇳🤗 , WE NEVER SCAM! WE GIVE RESPECT TO ALL WOMEN THEY CAN WALK SAFELY ALONE AT NIGHT AND WE HAVE CLEAN FOOD AND TOILET EVERYWHERE 🇮🇳🤗🚽, I KNOW MANY POOR PEOPLE JEALOUS WITH SUPER RICH INDIA 🤗🇮🇳🤗🇮🇳🤗🇮🇳🤗🇮🇳🤗🇮🇳🤗🇮🇳
@@indiasuperclean6969
You forgot to mention that the whole world loves super India 🇮🇳 and all are highly impressed that the super Indian 🇮🇳 cow jumped over the moon also, thanks to the super Modi deity of super India! 🇮🇳
Hip, hip, hurray! 👏👏👏
Don't want to cooperate with SOUTH KOREA, JAPAN and the U.S. who are SNEAKY and STINGY and don't share their technology. They will only make your country always dependent on them, and they always make money every year from your country.
Just look at automotive in your country, their products dominate the market in your country and what technology is given to your country?
Find a country that wants to share technology to be applied in your country and don't want to be made a cash cow by an ADVANCED COUNTRY. Otherwise your country will always be a DEVELOPING COUNTRY.
Japan regretted taking the job for India's high-speed train project. What a joke 5 years and only completed 10 km of the railway line. India workforce is poorly skilled, corrupted officials, and too many political parties to work with.
China is the number one in railway lines construction and high speed trains manufacturer. Highly skilled Chinese railway engineers, technicians, and hardworking technical and support teams. The Indonesia/China railway system is operating this Oct.
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Don't blame the engineers blame the Government. The land acquisition process was so slow and the famous slow Indian bureaucracy.
305.9 km of piles, 251.2 km of foundation, 208.9 km of piers are now complete as of July 2023.
At least they didn't do the California, USA HSR project. That would be a reputation suicide. 😂😂😂😂
Let them eat their own mistakes! Facts show what is reality is!
@adolft_official 其实可以
Napoleon Bonaparte "When Dragoon awake, the world will tremble"
Evil dragooon
No, the world will prosper.
@@jayarajmaduturi3514 How evil? by doing more trades with countries instead of invasion and supplying weapons for war? Don't let your jealousy and ignorance covered your eyes!
@@henman5123 jealous? What a joking comment when dragooon awake world will trembles
@@henman5123 no matter how long Pride before the fall what u face
Choosing the wrong partner in a major project can be a big headache. China has successfully built high speed railways all over China. This should be something, prospective clients need to consider.
NOT ALL FAULTS BLAME ON JAPAN JAPAN FAULTS 70%, INDIA FAULTS 30%.
@@ekayonosuwito3298 yeah like hypocrites say: it's china fault!
@@ekayonosuwito3298 more like the other way around, fault on India at least 70%
Choosing the right customer is equally inportant. India has what we here locally in Malaysia refer to as cakap Tamil.
Can’t blame India or Japan - as it’s a joint venture where diplomacy & currency exchange rates makes a lot of difference.
As for Indonesia - very happy for them , but pls pls be aware China will take over the ownership of the infra if repayment distrupted. See SriLanka’s Hambantootha port as a clear example of if shit hits the ceiling . 😅
A connected ASEAN with China is way more strategically significant for China than the revenues of the project itself. So I can understand why they accept even to transfer technology.
Asean is the third largest trading partner for China after US and Japan
@@radithramadhan8488No. ASEAN is the largest trade partner of China, not third.
The reason why China is willing to transfer high-speed rail technology is that China's technology has been improving, and what is transferred is mature technology, but it is never the latest, so China people will not worry about being surpassed.
@@radithramadhan8488US and Japan USED TO BE......NO LONGER.
BUT SIR MY INDIA IS THE REAL SUPERPOWER NUMBER ONE 🤗🇮🇳 WE HAVE THE BEST INFRASTRUCTURE AND HIGHSPEED RAIL 🤗🇮🇳 MEANWHILE IN INDONESIA PEOPLE HOMELESS EVERYWHERE AND THEY ALSO POOR DONT HAVE CAR . THIS WHY IM SO LUCKY LIVE IN SUPER INDIA THE CLEANEST COUNTRY IN THE WORLD 🇮🇳🤗 , WE NEVER SCAM! WE GIVE RESPECT TO ALL WOMEN THEY CAN WALK SAFELY ALONE AT NIGHT AND WE HAVE CLEAN FOOD AND TOILET EVERYWHERE 🇮🇳🤗🚽, I KNOW MANY POOR PEOPLE JEALOUS WITH SUPER RICH INDIA 🤗🇮🇳🤗🇮🇳🤗🇮🇳🤗🇮🇳🤗🇮🇳🤗🇮🇳
The result of this project also is about transfer of knowledge between Indonesia n China governments. We got technology of this project and soon the line for high speed railway would be extended to Surabaya and would potentially use our own train (merah-putih high speed railway, 250 km/hr) which has been created by INKA (Indonesia rail locomotive and rolling stock manufacturer), possibly the massive production could be in 2025.
BUT SIR MY INDIA IS THE REAL SUPERPOWER NUMBER ONE 🤗🇮🇳 WE HAVE THE BEST INFRASTRUCTURE AND HIGHSPEED RAIL 🤗🇮🇳 MEANWHILE IN INDONESIA PEOPLE HOMELESS EVERYWHERE AND THEY ALSO POOR DONT HAVE CAR . THIS WHY IM SO LUCKY LIVE IN SUPER INDIA THE CLEANEST COUNTRY IN THE WORLD 🇮🇳🤗 , WE NEVER SCAM! WE GIVE RESPECT TO ALL WOMEN THEY CAN WALK SAFELY ALONE AT NIGHT AND WE HAVE CLEAN FOOD AND TOILET EVERYWHERE 🇮🇳🤗🚽, I KNOW MANY POOR PEOPLE JEALOUS WITH SUPER RICH INDIA 🤗🇮🇳🤗🇮🇳🤗🇮🇳🤗🇮🇳🤗🇮🇳🤗🇮🇳
Don't want to cooperate with SOUTH KOREA, JAPAN and the U.S. who are SNEAKY and STINGY and don't share their technology. They will only make your country always dependent on them, and they always make money every year from your country.
Just look at automotive in your country, their products dominate the market in your country and what technology is given to your country?
Find a country that wants to share technology to be applied in your country and don't want to be made a cash cow by an ADVANCED COUNTRY. Otherwise your country will always be a DEVELOPING COUNTRY.
@@indiasuperclean6969 ok, anything else?
@@indiasuperclean6969anda suka bercanda..😂😂😂😂😂😂
@@indiasuperclean6969 yes ... india is the real superpower 😁 is there anything else that hasn't been mentioned?
Indonesia definitely make good decisions to choose China as China have good record of completing its undertaking high speed rail all this while. China have the expertise, experience, knowledge, technology, the equipments, the manpower and the money to complete its contracts ahead of their scheduled. China have more than 40K km of high speed rail experience that no country in this world have. Bravos China and Indonesia 👏👏👏👏 As for the Philippines, it’s better China didn’t offer their services to them as they have very2 bad intentions towards China and they have invited their master US to have another 4 military bases in their country to counter and provoke China. So it’s best China stopped all their investment, projects and contracts in this country. There are many other countries in Asia that China can offer their services.
Sorry! Philippines dont need chinese expertise...and china quality..we love Japan technology and expertise..thank chines..please leave Ph..and leave West Ph sea..do not provoke us..and make more dramas.
@@TheoWonder5886 如果我们不离开呢！？🥱
This is the difference brother. China built the project and in India, country is building by itself with local engineers and contractors getting technical support from Japan. There is a difference.
@@TheoWonder5886 monkey
@@user-os7ps2bx4n 哈哈
Lesson learned from cooperating with Japan,,,,,decades of selling automotive product in Indonesia with minimum technology transfer, over a higher selling price. Now It is time for Indonesia to be independent, away from Economical/Industrial Colonialism.
Personally, I do not think that Indonesia will be able to rise above China in rail technology and become a competitor to Chinese rail industry. China's becoming a rail giant is not a small feat. This is a miracle which no other country in this world is able to duplicate (not even the United States). It is safe for China to transfer its rail technology to Indonesia.
We do not have vision to compete with any East Asian/West European countries' rail technology. All we want is to meet domestic demand and sell our trains to any other developing nations (particularly Sub-Saharan Africa, as well as South and Southeast Asia).
China is the only country in the world that has the most complete natural landforms and weather at the same time. Just meeting domestic demand has already raised the experience value to the maximum.
This alone is enough to China won't making mistakes when contracting foreign railway projects. if you want build it by own or export it, even the technology is transferred to you, without rich experience the result still be a mess. not to mention that after decades of development of high-speed rail, only China, Germany, Japan have been able to export it to foreign countries.
@@kanojune5754 作为中国人，我非常乐意看到印尼的高铁技术和高铁产品可以自给自足，这样印尼可以更快地改善基础设施，加速经济发展，让更多的印尼人尤其是贫困人口受益，这比所谓的“技术安全”更加重要。
@@johhw_6432 yes, as an Indonesian, I am grateful that China is willing to transfer some HSR technology. Albeit it's such a pity that it currently only connects Jakarta and Bandung.
中国最不怕的就是竞争，因为人类发展进步就需要竞争，所以我们欢迎印尼能认真吸收技术发展出能与我们竞争的技术。
Now india is dreaming of constructing a railway across the Arabian desert.. 😂
Spice Route
Keeping dreaming - India - sleep more - see more in dreams
Spice route? I would call it Bankruptcy route because the Suez canal is still there. Imagine a container loaded on a ship in India... then sail to the Arabian port, unload from the ship, then load on a truck.... send to the railway then load on the train... send it to the next Arab port, load it on a ship, sail it to the Greek port .. unload and load on a truck...send to a railway and load again on the train... just mentioning load and unload give me toothache. All the billion will be wasted as ships just have to sail thru the Suez into Europe. Extreme brain fk
Already done…in dream
@@tonilim-tw8epyou forgot to mention their space station which they claimed is more sophiscated and more advanced than the Tiangong space station! Of course we can't see it! It is in stealth mode!
Wow congratulations Indonesia for trusting and partnering with CHINA, the BEST developer in the WORLD.
BUT SIR MY INDIA IS THE REAL SUPERPOWER NUMBER ONE 🤗🇮🇳 WE HAVE THE BEST INFRASTRUCTURE AND HIGHSPEED RAIL 🤗🇮🇳 MEANWHILE IN INDONESIA PEOPLE HOMELESS EVERYWHERE AND THEY ALSO POOR DONT HAVE CAR . THIS WHY IM SO LUCKY LIVE IN SUPER INDIA THE CLEANEST COUNTRY IN THE WORLD 🇮🇳🤗 , WE NEVER SCAM! WE GIVE RESPECT TO ALL WOMEN THEY CAN WALK SAFELY ALONE AT NIGHT AND WE HAVE CLEAN FOOD AND TOILET EVERYWHERE 🇮🇳🤗🚽, I KNOW MANY POOR PEOPLE JEALOUS WITH SUPER RICH INDIA 🤗🇮🇳🤗🇮🇳🤗🇮🇳🤗🇮🇳🤗🇮🇳🤗🇮🇳
@@indiasuperclean6969 ok ok... yeah, india is the best! happy now?
Most important is a win-win deal for both country...IMF n d World Bank charges 20-30% interest, while China charges much less than 5%..n d West will says it is a Dept - Trapped project..😮😮😮😮😮
@@henman5123 not until you mean it from the heart
@@ftu2021 It's not easy, because jealousy and hate won't take people moving forward. While China has done so much incredible things, no matter to their own people or people around the world, still people dislike China and never accept the capability of the Chinese. Well, thanks to those western mainstream media are doing their best to brainwash people. So, yeah right, people tends of India is better and far more human, then let you be, you are right!
Untuk berbagi teknologi memang china lebih bersahabat dari pada amerika dan eropa ,mereka sangat pelit berbagi teknologi
Indonesia is smart to choose china to build their railway... It is clear that china is way ahead of Japan now in construction of such infrastructure. Why did India choose Japan?
They didn't want it to break down within a week of start up.
@@gmonynegro595 hahaha!!!
Political propaganda
Indian nationalism is on the rise and they see China as their rival, not Japan.
They didn't want to embarrass themselves tbh.
@@gmonynegro595Japanese, Korean and Vietnamese cultures are all Made in China as all Sinospheric nations. They didn’t break down after millenia. China gave Japan its culture which is a Tang Dynasty replica. Great Wall of China and Dunjiangyan man made irrigation system and Terra Cotta Army didn’t break down after more than 2000 years. With China the inventor of “Japanese culture” backing a project up, it means innovation and quality. Japan is nothing but a copycat and always makes fake Chinese copy versions of things, always misbranding everything they plagiarize from China as “Japanese”. Indonesians are smart for choosing the mother culture of Asian cultures for their railway instead of choosing copycat country Japan.
Indochina🇮🇩🇨🇳 thx to China ❤
Let us Asian countries work together to build a fair world. ❤
Don't want to cooperate with SOUTH KOREA, JAPAN and the U.S. who are SNEAKY and STINGY and don't share their technology. They will only make your country always dependent on them, and they always make money every year from your country.
Just look at automotive in your country, their products dominate the market in your country and what technology is given to your country?
Find a country that wants to share technology to be applied in your country and don't want to be made a cash cow by an ADVANCED COUNTRY. Otherwise your country will always be a DEVELOPING COUNTRY.
China has soared passed the yesterday leaders of technology and people are continuing to count on either USA or Japan, they been relaxing for a decade thinking their technology can never be defeated. China has soared above any innovation and technology in any manner of field. Well done China. There are some values the world must learn...Hardwork, Perseverance, Persistence, Faithfulness, long suffering, endurance, and love. These are in fact God's attributes.
Like mate60s superior to iPhones via their satellite calling function and much cheaper price
Remember my brothers and sisters from Indonesia: if you see bad comments from India, just ignore. They are beneath us
Huh? Just because of a train?
Keep it cool folks. 🇮🇩 ❤️ 🇮🇳
Beneath Us ? That means you're doing the same thing as they are, just ignore the hate comments you see, I've seen multiple hate comments against India too in the same section so don't play the victim here.
Congrats to China and Indonesia for the successful cooperation.
Good luck Indonesia, if railway and train made in China is made a good quality lol.
@khrisravelo8196 you're jealous your HSR will never be completed. It'll be a forever project from japan. Lol
Made in india quality lol@@khrisravelo8196
@@khrisravelo8196I am waiting for the trial run of your HSR...good luck 🙏🙏
@@khrisravelo8196 Whatever quality you think it is, you shall never surpass the Indonesian HSR operational speed of 350kph, when you rely on Japanese old tech like Taiwan only 312kph, the only experience 1998 - 2015 (17 years) to cover some 350km, no wonder it's so slow in Bharat.
Maju dan makmur Indonesia dengan infrastruktur HSR Jakarta Bandung. Sungguh gembira dengan kerjasama Indonesia China
Superpower india
#107 in Hunger index
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😂😂👍👍🤣🤣🤣
@pie0398 ok ok... yeah, india is the best! india is the future then you will see how u$ reacts to you! India no.1... yeah
Super powder from India after immersing in the polluted holy cow Ganges River?
Slump people still boasting
Result is what matter's in this factual and fast moving World. And China have indeed, massive efficiently completed projects to prove it!
👌👍🇨🇳 👏👏👏
Results? What about functionality, sustainability, maintenance, passenger safety are important issues as well. China has a history of getting things done but usually at the detriment of the local citizenry. Plus China is also known to leverage Government's into a debt spiral that result's in China taking advantage of additional land, sea ports or mineral resources. They tried to play that hand in Uganda & that Gov't. kicked China out & canceled their debt obligation. So don't go all China because the CCP wants the World & they'll take it anyway they can to the detriment of anyone that resists. Remember Hong Kong! So wake up!
@@carmiethompson2676 a typical loser’s claim. And what about Hong Kong? Isn’t it a part of China?
@@carmiethompson2676What do you know about Hong Kong?
@@carmiethompson2676I only remember Hongkong is a china province and Chinese people .
and yeah Britishers should repaid their debt looted from China for centuries.
@@davidyan1267Why don't you read the previous comments & the link & educate yourself...or aren't you old enough?
Don't forget to add in LAOS with INDONESIA among our ASEAN peers who also had a finishing rail link ahead of India. So basically it is a double whammy for India not being productive and decision wise.
Nah, fam ...
Maybe India just failed to bribe the right people with the right amount of money. I'm an Indonesian and this project kinda baffled me. It's finished relatively quick, without major protest, or local folks rioting in the streets. Especially with people who owns land around the rail track. This is weird, trust me.
How TF our gov secured land acquisition this fast and smooth? Cause almost everytime there's major strategic infrastructure projects, land acquisition is the most time and energy consuming process.
@@fajaradi1223Interview news from Chinese engineer: When Indonesia's Jakarta-Bandung high-speed rail started, all the locals on this road did not believe it, saying, "We don't want to build high-speed rail, don't move, it's too hard." We invited some representatives of 20 families to come to China, from Guangzhou to Beijing by high-speed rail, from Beijing to Shanghai by high-speed rail, and then back by plane. After their visit, they went back to Indonesia and said, "Please hurry to build high-speed rail, we also want to have high-speed rail like Beijing and Shanghai." And then they moved quickly.
@@fajaradi1223 There is nothing suspicious about long term goals and consistency to bring to the table like this Indonesia railway for the people of Indonesia. Not only that this is a game changer for Indonesia. This project with the support and help of China has drastically upgraded the country and future business growth at a higher level. Indonesia is not alone in this China BRI project as they are too risking themselves for the greater good of the regions.
BUT SIR MY INDIA IS THE REAL SUPERPOWER NUMBER ONE 🤗🇮🇳 WE HAVE THE BEST INFRASTRUCTURE AND HIGHSPEED RAIL 🤗🇮🇳 MEANWHILE IN INDONESIA PEOPLE HOMELESS EVERYWHERE AND THEY ALSO POOR DONT HAVE CAR . THIS WHY IM SO LUCKY LIVE IN SUPER INDIA THE CLEANEST COUNTRY IN THE WORLD 🇮🇳🤗 , WE NEVER SCAM! WE GIVE RESPECT TO ALL WOMEN THEY CAN WALK SAFELY ALONE AT NIGHT AND WE HAVE CLEAN FOOD AND TOILET EVERYWHERE 🇮🇳🤗🚽, I KNOW MANY POOR PEOPLE JEALOUS WITH SUPER RICH INDIA 🤗🇮🇳🤗🇮🇳🤗🇮🇳🤗🇮🇳🤗🇮🇳🤗🇮🇳
@@indiasuperclean6969 In Modern statistic regarding homeless. India is the Capital of Homeless and poverty for a very long time. Everyone knows that. We don't need to sugar coat the real India on the ground.
China has 14 years of experience building hsr and 10 times more than any country in the world,anyone who thinks they can compete is out of their minds.
and we don't even talk about costing...
To be honest, Japan is a dying country due to aging population. Think twice before making deals with Japan as it could collapse anytime.
@@henman5123Pls check up every international bid to find to lowest quotation. Is there any one else?
Japan has been building HSRs for FAR LONGER. They are the pioneers in this area. Japan is known for quality whereas the CCP wonderland is known primarily as a copy cat.
@@jarjarbinks3193 Keep closing your eyes to the real world. It's just too desperate for you.
Because japan not transfer teknologi tanks china 🎉
Betting against China is not smart. The US, Japan, EU, etc, would be a lot better off COOPERATING with China. Better, faster, more efficient, and more cost-effective technology would be at their disposal.
As the world's democracies pull their manufacturing out of China and stop cooperating with China their revenue stream will dry up. This is already happening. In 10 years from now China will be surrounded by a group of well armed democracies who trade with each other shutting China out.
You are a wised man unless like other hypocrites western people. President Xi: the 20th century of war, invasion mindset have gone while we are living in the 21st century which we should go for Corporations. China's ambition is People's Community with a Shared Future. Peace! 🤘🤟
The Chinese were euphoric when they lost to the Japanese on the India deal😂😂🤣🤣
May not be at that moment but yes looking hindsight
As a Indian who following our bullet train ! In that biding there was no China at all it fight between Germany and Japan and some what France we nor even invited Chinese that time lol !
Nobody in China cares about what happened in that HSR deal with India. People just feel happy that China is not in the India HSR mud pond. Chinese people are enjoying the convenience and comfort of their 43,000 km HSR nationwide all above 200 kmph, many are at 350 kmph.
@@svanimation8969 可悲
Wish Japan and India enjoy more and more collaborations in the future😘
Will be extended to Surabaya
i dont think so, indonesia has no money
@@praneethjayasimha5943same with india, no money
@@praneethjayasimha5943 wrong we have the money
@@praneethjayasimha5943But I have money.
In terms of cost and expenditure, Indonesia may choose a high-speed train of 200km/h~250km/h to build the Surabaya extension line. In this way, the cost is lower and the economic benefits will be better
Great China ❤ from Pakistan
Free balochistan..
@@user-qx2vz1ig5n where is the protest
You are you sure comparing India bullet train distance?
Bullet train of Indosneisa is just 142 km and India bullet train is 512 km! India will take time that's for sure but looking at the progress India is doing very pretty on that.
Countries that lead the world in 44 critical technology* sectors:
1. China = 37
2. USA = 7
3. UK = 0
4. Germany = 0
5. Japan = 0
*In fields like defence, space, robotics, energy, the environment, biotechnology, artificial intelligence (AI), advanced materials and key quantum technology areas
Source: Australian Strategic Policy Institute (ASPI)
**India leads the world in the field of cow husbandry, which is neither a technology nor critical
The jealous guys would only say, you copy others! I would say: thanks to the hypocrites west... the more you ban or sanction China, the more they would produce! Small people do small ugly things while the ugliest part is losing to someone and never accept the facts but to devilize you. This is so called freedom of speech... the speech of talking bad others with envy,democracy as it best!
Souce: CCP
Chinese creating their own happiness. 🐶
@@7_77_.Yeah, no wonder consumers don't want "Made in India" products.....
@@dt_2 yeah, cheap people prefer cheap goods aka chinese goods.
@@7_77_. Go and check how many cheap goods are trade to...those cheap people like you said!
building in india is much more complex, there is a politician to be moved for each meter of track.
There were geographical challenges in india + it's length length is more than 3 time the Indonesia's so check the facts than put false allegations you fool😂
Complex is soft word for Corruption ya
@@user-ob7ln5vi6j but the kilometer is still the same right? its 1000 meter too in india?
India is more advanced than china!
@@Luke-hm9vh they what about CaliforniA HSR... there were corruption also due to which it delayed by almost 10 year ...
While in india within 3 year they will complete almost 400km of track and operation begins in 2027 ....
It is foolish comparison 160 km Indonesian HSR with 504 km Indian HSR , Indian HSR consist of 22 km under the sea tunnal....
Congrats WHOOSH🇮🇩🇨🇳💪👍🎉
Congrats to Indonesia for it's very first High-speed railway, the first, both in indonesia and ASEAN, such an achievement both on public transportation and economy side, hope that the javanese expansion will be done smoothly too :)
Now that we will have a new president on October 2024, he will likely to extend the HSR from Bandung to Yogyakarta to Surabaya
Congratulations china and Indonesia
Love from india❤
Congratulations to Indonesia's high speed railway ! 😃
Holy cow...China dodged the Indian project ...it worked out in their favor and good luck to Japan if they will ever complete the project in India.
Cry louder not because India Japan did not face any war in Chinese HSR just self made rumours that
Holy pig, only 4% of Pakistan population has access to 4G network, a contrary to their promise of 5G. Today, India has 60% 5G networks by now
Good luck to Pakistan if they will ever establish 5G network
China vs. Japan, the whole world knows who is known for quality, don't we?! 😃 Case closed!
It will complete don't worry about it
Good luck Indonesia, if railway and train made in China is made a good quality lol.
People who are comparing Indian Bullet train project with Indonesia...
Must Understand...
In Indonesia Chinese workers and Chinese machines are doing the majority of work with Indonesian workers.
**But in India L and T(an Indian company) is doing the construction.**
Machines are also built and operated by Indian engineers. Only Chief engineer comes once a while from Japan to see progress and modifications.
**So technically India is learning how to make bullet train project**
**Just like we learned how to make world class Metro infrastructure**
And also JAPAN'S bullet trains are safest and best in the world.
"So asking for help again n again in future from Japan is not what India is thinking."
That's why it is taking time.
Additional info -- Indonesia's route length is 142 km with 4 stations.
**India's route length is 508 km (including 21 km undersea tunnel) with 12 stations **
So it will take time.
*Source-Wikipedia.
Jika anda membenci anda akan membuat banyak alasan😂
Nikmati apa yang ada jangan ada niat saling menjatuhkan
@@Indonesian319 Learn english
@@Indonesian319 Tidak ada yang membuat alasan. Saya sangat bahagia untuk Indonesia. Namun bodoh jika membandingkan kedua proyek tersebut. Kembangkan otak untuk memahaminya. Baca komentar saya lagi jika Anda tahu bahasa Inggris.
saudara bharat kami ingin melihat kelanjutan dari proyek kereta cepat kami dari bandung ke Surabaya semoga dalam pelaksanaanya kami tidak mendahului anda😂
India adalah negara terbaik didunia. Negara terbersih didunia. Selalu ada toilet dimana-mana diseluruh negeri. Anda jangan iri dengan india.
The difference is in who you work with. China is just luckier to have Indonesia. Indonesia is simply a much better partner than india, in terms of goverment efficiency, skillful work force and political will. The SEA country has full potential to become a industry powerhouse. Cheers from China.
China is lucky to have Indonesia, or Indonesia is lucky to have China?
Presiden Jokowi yg Terbaik dihati masyarakat Indonesia
India's bullet train line is almost 5 times bigger than Indonesia with over 500 kilometers in length, it is bound to take more time.
Completed in year 2051
congratulations to Indonesia and china . love from india. world is one.
Indonesia choose 🇨🇳, because 🇨🇳 agree to transfer technology about high speed train to 🇮🇩 so in the future 🇮🇩 can produce high speed train. But japan, not agree to transfer technology.
Japan should finish India high speed railway since Japan started. China should never pick up their left over rail.
Unless India pays upfront 🤣🤣🤣
Who is offering to chinese by the way😂😂😂😂😂
@@arindamchakraborty7Keep waiting. Seems like only the Chinese can solve the construction problem. Be like the US, 20+ years and their HSR goes 0-0 mph. 😂😂😂😂
Yes. Never take over Jav left over.
Viet and Endia
@@arindamchakraborty7 NO problem, keep your mess with you! There are plenty of others countries are corporating with China. More important, take your lesson, failing something is not a big problem, the problem is people not to learning from it!
Don't be envious, Indonesia is growing rapidly every year
Japan is declining and failing in every aspects of life, like the current US Regime and its allies! 😢
China and indonesia always is brother......😍😍😍😍😍
India ???
😅😅😅🤭🤭🤭
感谢印尼愿意和中国合作建设雅万高铁，中国和印尼友谊万岁。🎉🎉🎉
🇮🇩🇨🇳👍
@xaveriawara8121
FAKTA.
Studi kelayakan oleh Jepang 1.5 th menyimpulkan TIDAK LAYAK. Bila dipaksakan dibangun Jepang minta jaminan tetapi ditolak, tdk diberi.
Biaya yg diajukan Jepang 6.05 milyar dolar dg bunga 0.1% /th.
Datang cina dg studi kelayakan 0.5th, mungkin juga ambil data dr studi kelayakan Jepang. Cina ajukan biaya 5.95 milyar dolar.
Minta jaminan dikasih pemerintah Indonesia. Suku bunga utang 3.4%. Jauh lbh besar dr Jepang. Biaya bengkak menjadi 8.2 milyar dolar. Waktu pengerjaan juga molor.
CATAT, pengamat kebijakan publik Agus Pambagyo sempàt bertanya kpd jokowi mengapa ka ceoat ini dikerjakan, dijawab jokowi bhw dia (jokowi) yg memutuskan. AP memberitahu jokowi bhw ka cepat ini TIDAK LAYAK. Tetapi jokowi tetap ngeyel.
Catat pula bhw Faisal Basri, ekonom eks dosen UI bilang bhw balik modal proyek ini selama 160th !
AP bilang ka ceoat ini akan TEKOR 5-10T/th selama masa konsesi 50-80th.
Ka ceoat ini rutenya juga tdk sampai kota Bandung, hanya di Padalarang. Itu msh cukup jauh dr kota Bandung n jalur macet.
Jokowi semula bilang bhw ka cepat ini TIDAK AKAN memakai APBN. Belakangan akhirnya pakai APBN. Ini TIDAK KONSISTEN alias BOHONG alias CEROBOH.
Masih mau bilang org yg tdk setuju dg ka cepat ini termakan HOAKS????
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@xaveriawara8121
FAKTA.
Studi kelayakan oleh Jepang 1.5 th menyimpulkan TIDAK LAYAK. Bila dipaksakan dibangun Jepang minta jaminan tetapi ditolak, tdk diberi.
Biaya yg diajukan Jepang 6.05 milyar dolar dg bunga 0.1% /th.
Datang cina dg studi kelayakan 0.5th, mungkin juga ambil data dr studi kelayakan Jepang. Cina ajukan biaya 5.95 milyar dolar.
Minta jaminan dikasih pemerintah Indonesia. Suku bunga utang 3.4%. Jauh lbh besar dr Jepang. Biaya bengkak menjadi 8.2 milyar dolar. Waktu pengerjaan juga molor.
CATAT, pengamat kebijakan publik Agus Pambagyo sempàt bertanya kpd jokowi mengapa ka ceoat ini dikerjakan, dijawab jokowi bhw dia (jokowi) yg memutuskan. AP memberitahu jokowi bhw ka cepat ini TIDAK LAYAK. Tetapi jokowi tetap ngeyel.
Catat pula bhw Faisal Basri, ekonom eks dosen UI bilang bhw balik modal proyek ini selama 160th !
AP bilang ka ceoat ini akan TEKOR 5-10T/th selama masa konsesi 50-80th.
Ka ceoat ini rutenya juga tdk sampai kota Bandung, hanya di Padalarang. Itu msh cukup jauh dr kota Bandung n jalur macet.
Jokowi semula bilang bhw ka cepat ini TIDAK AKAN memakai APBN. Belakangan akhirnya pakai APBN. Ini TIDAK KONSISTEN alias BOHONG alias CEROBOH.
Masih mau bilang org yg tdk setuju dg ka cepat ini termakan HOAKS????
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Thank you China..we are always be best friend 🤝🙏
best friend❤
Indonesia is very smart..taking the fast train project by transferring technology..so Indonesia can get the technology..one day Indonesia will build its own fast train..✌️
The train can be bought from any country. That is the easier part. The biggest value in the technology transfer is the Chinese know-how in building the HSR rail efficiently in very short time and keep the project cost low.
China mau transfer tehnologi,kalau jepang tidak mau...
This feels like a chinese propaganda channel but still,
*"Faster Isn't always Better."*
Indonesia choosed china but because it was cheaper, but delays made it more expensive than Japan's bid. Indonesia went to Japan again, but they refused to take part in half-build HSR stating different safety regulations.
Indonesian HSR is 150km, Indian HSR is 500km.
India plans to cover entire landmass with HSR, high population support it. So Japan is giving the technology so that India can build them on their own. Japan is providing all the cost for it with only 1% interest on loan.
Only problem with Indian delays were land acquisition because you can't move people in a democracy without consent. But measures have been taken to avoid these for future lines. After 100% land acquisition, in just 1 year, half of the project was completed. Construction started in 2023 and phase one will open in 2026.
2nd project with equally long length already has 80% land acquisition completed and route is set to open in 2028. Another 2 very long projects are set to open in 2031.
China was just a expensive builder for Indonesian, while Japan is long term technology partner.
India is levelling up entire railway network. While indonesian politicians are building short expensive projects for votes. They still run dirty, smelly, old and slow diesel engines on 92% track. While indian tracks are 100% electrified.
Chinese wonderful Technological achievement.
Bro India build 500+ km for bullet train only 50+ km only Indonesia 😂😂
it is 150km, not 50km
Because of our internal politics and COVID land acquisition work was delayed...
India is highly dense country so 99% tracks are elevated and 21% underground/under sea so that's why construction was delayed....
It's totally not JAPAN's fault 🇮🇳🤝🇯🇵
Jepang pelit ama ilmu mknya Indonesia kerjasama ama china. ATM amati tiru modifikasi
The mileage of high-speed rail in China is longer than that of all countries in the world combined, and China has the richest experience in high-speed rail construction.
giving that there are only a few countries in the world that are the around the same size as China
USA, Canada and Australia (does not have the political will to do it)
Russia (Is too sparsely populated)
Brazil & South Africa (do not have the budget to built it)
I have a feeling that Japan will never finish the Indian project for multiple reasons.
@xaveriawara8121
FAKTA.
Studi kelayakan oleh Jepang 1.5 th menyimpulkan TIDAK LAYAK. Bila dipaksakan dibangun Jepang minta jaminan tetapi ditolak, tdk diberi.
Biaya yg diajukan Jepang 6.05 milyar dolar dg bunga 0.1% /th.
Datang cina dg studi kelayakan 0.5th, mungkin juga ambil data dr studi kelayakan Jepang. Cina ajukan biaya 5.95 milyar dolar.
Minta jaminan dikasih pemerintah Indonesia. Suku bunga utang 3.4%. Jauh lbh besar dr Jepang. Biaya bengkak menjadi 8.2 milyar dolar. Waktu pengerjaan juga molor.
CATAT, pengamat kebijakan publik Agus Pambagyo sempàt bertanya kpd jokowi mengapa ka ceoat ini dikerjakan, dijawab jokowi bhw dia (jokowi) yg memutuskan. AP memberitahu jokowi bhw ka cepat ini TIDAK LAYAK. Tetapi jokowi tetap ngeyel.
Catat pula bhw Faisal Basri, ekonom eks dosen UI bilang bhw balik modal proyek ini selama 160th !
AP bilang ka ceoat ini akan TEKOR 5-10T/th selama masa konsesi 50-80th.
Ka ceoat ini rutenya juga tdk sampai kota Bandung, hanya di Padalarang. Itu msh cukup jauh dr kota Bandung n jalur macet.
Jokowi semula bilang bhw ka cepat ini TIDAK AKAN memakai APBN. Belakangan akhirnya pakai APBN. Ini TIDAK KONSISTEN alias BOHONG alias CEROBOH.
Masih mau bilang org yg tdk setuju dg ka cepat ini termakan HOAKS????
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No money 😂😂😂
Keep your feeling and jealousy to yourself
@@juvezhang1715 India has more money than Indonesia and is growing twice as fast as Indonesia.
@@jazzyjazzy903 Japan what I mean .now Japan has no money..Japan in 1980 had money.
Japan behind the scene is to delay as long as possible but China has no hidden agenda
China have agenda, making Indonesia get tons of debt money for CCP wkwkwk
Does the 10 klms in India come with toilets ? LOL !
Jayant Bhandari an Indian himself said : India will eventually disintegrate into many smaller countries
Absolutely agree
Never, India will capture Indonesia in future.
It's our issue right, we know how to deal with them, you should be happy instead of worrying the way you're spamming the same message.
It only takes 3 hours to take the high-speed train from my hometown Handan to the capital Beijing. 20 years ago it took 8 hours to take the train. Now I can’t imagine how I could endure the 8 hours of train travel 20 years ago. It’s scary just thinking about it.
this high speed train project is really dumb, its too short (150km).... the cost is 2x than China Speedy Train... and its took 50 year debt with 100% total interest....
China is wide, land based area... compared to Island Nation like Indonesia.... I would like China-Indonesia partnership to build port in batam than this kind of corrupt project.
because Japan does not want to transfer technology. whereas in the fast train project this is an important goal so that the Indonesian people can make the train.
BUT SIR MY INDIA IS THE REAL SUPERPOWER NUMBER ONE 🤗🇮🇳 WE HAVE THE BEST INFRASTRUCTURE AND HIGHSPEED RAIL 🤗🇮🇳 MEANWHILE IN INDONESIA PEOPLE HOMELESS EVERYWHERE AND THEY ALSO POOR DONT HAVE CAR . THIS WHY IM SO LUCKY LIVE IN SUPER INDIA THE CLEANEST COUNTRY IN THE WORLD 🇮🇳🤗 , WE NEVER SCAM! WE GIVE RESPECT TO ALL WOMEN THEY CAN WALK SAFELY ALONE AT NIGHT AND WE HAVE CLEAN FOOD AND TOILET EVERYWHERE 🇮🇳🤗🚽, I KNOW MANY POOR PEOPLE JEALOUS WITH SUPER RICH INDIA 🤗🇮🇳🤗🇮🇳🤗🇮🇳🤗🇮🇳🤗🇮🇳🤗🇮🇳
Let's see if you'll end up getting hands on the Chinese design anytime soon
@@indiasuperclean6969 haha, India poor
Japan’s Shinkansen is slower than China’s high-speed rail and not as smooth as China’s high-speed rail
China's HSR tech comes from Japan.
Propoganda is next level...
😂😂😂😂😂
Why the japan party get angry to Indonesia when they've charged higher expenses and also they don't want to agree the T.O.T. / Transfer Of Technology, to Indonesia ???, as like what the China has done.
希望印度尼西亚越来越好❤我们一起进步🎉
Kami berharap semoga indonesia jadi mitra penting china dan Rusia bukan Eropa dan Amerika kami mayoritas Rakyat Indonesia sangat benci dengan dengan Amerika dan seutuhnya
大哥，别，中国已经拒绝了修建延长线的请求！吃力不讨好的事情做一次就够了
@@real-life-inChina延长线地质条件太复杂了
@@nkri495 作為中國人，希望印度尼西亞朋友接下來掌握我們提供的高鐵技術，然後印度尼西亞朋友可以自己主導你們國家的高鐵建造，讓亞洲有更大的發展！！！
复杂没问题的，中国境内复杂的地质条件太多了。但是在地质环境变复杂的情况下还不想加钱，，，更别提原先的价格就已经相当优惠了
Indonesia 🇮🇩 launching and starting extended project to Surabaya, India 🇮🇳 almost start 😭, Japan 🇯🇵, hmmm only in your dream 🤣
15000 project going in india first check the information not like anti india agent 😜
India's project is 32% completed as of now, check the lastest report. India's line is 500+ kms while Indonesia's line is only 140 kms. India has already started working on 8 other bullet train corridors simultaneously and 3 are in advanced stages of DPR reports.
@@jazzyjazzy903 Hes saying that the project is getting extended to surabaya, which is 787km long
Good things take time, Taj Mahal took 20 years to built
Choose japan as high speed rail partner is not a bad ides. The real problem is about maintenance services. You can not replace any parts from different companies. But the parts from Japan are more expensive than another companies. So it will costs you more in long term and how do they make money.
Japan's high-speed rail is not as smooth as China's high-speed rail
@@sunnypheonix5638 it is very simple. If you continue doing the same job all-time, you will become better.
Chinese technology is copied and not as good as Japanese technology. India made a better choice by opting for superior Japanese technology.
I agree
But it is the maintenance that matters and I really hope that India is able to keep it☘️
@@ronen95 Judging by the Delhi and other metros, India will surely maintain it well.
Its about 600 KM bullet train project with 20 KM tunnel and rest part is elevated
Saya merasa negara Jepang murni hanya memanfaatkan kita sebagai pasar, makanya mereka tidak mau dan tidak ingin kita menjadi negara maju.. Terimakasih Pak Jokowi sebagai pemimpin Indonesia yang berpikiran maju dan terimakasih negara China yang sudah bekerjasama secara nyata.. Semoga negara Indonesia maju dalam teknologi. Sehingga kita bisa membuat mesin apa saja secara mandiri..Amiin Ya Rabb.
Sejak puluhan taun mereka jualan mobil sama motor di indo kita gk dapet apa2. Mereka murni jualan doang. Indo bener2 dipandang jadi konsumen bukan partner. Vietnam aja udah punya mobil sendiri, malaysia udah dari dulu.
Sebenernya industri otomotif di china juga lumayan bagus kok, harusnya bisa diajak kerjasama lagi biar kita suatu saat bisa produksi mobil sendiri. Hilangkan dominasi mobil jepang
未来发展在亚洲，亚洲国家一定要团结，不用看西方脸色！
I'm guessing that the problem with the India/Japan high speed rail, is more a problem with India than Japan. India has also had problems with manufacturing Iphones.
Made in india quality lol
The delay was not the fault of the Japanese. It was India's internal problem that caused the delay. China would have faced the same problem if it were given the project.
India's opposition and ruling party ego costs India's developed. Democracy takes too much time
뻔한 말입니다...인도이기때문입니다
democracy is a big shit.
democracy is a illusion is not freedom.
Congratulations Indonesia, you were fooled by China and became Chinanesia.
Japan is a name of the past sayonara .
It is extremely hard to implement big projects in India
Not only big projects, small projects also hard
That why 1500+ project are going in india
And 3 bullet train project going on
@@gameworld9989 "3 bullet train project going on"?? Right now there is only one under construction and that too is under severe delay.
@@SOUVIK_RAY_because it's the first one
Don't worry India the third super power ?? Will finish the high speed rail in no time .give it another 10 years??
Wait another 50 years
10 years. Same as USA railway station failed and crush killed on the car. Wait another 100 years.
India: hey japs, we are not only want HSR but mainly HCR...
Japs: what the hell is HCR?
India: Come on, don't you see how us indian travel with trains? Speed is not really the issue but Capacity that passengers could easily transport in the upper decker of the train is the one!
Japs: Ahhhh you want double decker train, no problem! And we need double construction time to develop it!
If 10 years not enough there will be many more 10 years
India????? 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
I just want to correct your statement in 5:55 which says the maximum speed of this variant of the train set is 350km/hour and the operational speed is 300km/hour, that's wrong. You can see it in the widely circulated videos about this high speed train trial, even during the inauguration by the Indonesian president, residents rode together for free during a month's introduction period. Has shown an operational speed of 351km/hour as the maximum daily operational speed limit permitted by the Indonesian government. This type of high speed train is also the same type of China railway company there as the standard High Speed Train, Fuxing CR400AF with a max speed capability of 420km/hour.
well done wowow
proyek kereta cepat India Vietnam, Malaysia dan Indonesia, problem terbesarnya adalah PEMBEBASAN LAHAN, dan Indonesia berhasil menyelesaikan dalam waktu yg di tentukan, sedang negara lain mendapat kesulitan dan pertentangan dengan para pemilik tanah hingga negosiasinya berlarut-larut.
my country's high-speed rails are all built in suburbs, so the cost is relatively much lower.😅
Good to hear that India is lagging behind for the reasons I have known that support my predictions. Bravo to China and Indonesia. And to the Philippines...make up your mind. Only strongly minded nations will surface up to victory....this is 2023. Western inclinations doesn't work anymore and stop "thinking" western. You're not even solving all your own problems through years of western influence formulas. The race is on
Small people with small mindset result small country development, well... small or non development under the western influence, by the way?
@@henman5123 western influence or to be exact "western suppression"....you are one of the people and everybody else is not small...never underestimate!
Correct me if I'm wrong, Indonesia has built a high-speed railways, not only the first in Southeast Asia, but also the first among other southern hemisphere countries.
I saw your same comment in every video of Indonesian HSR in many channels.
Wkwkwk
We british in UK are angry with HS2 not completing any time soon and its going to cost over £100 billion when the original cost was just over £30 billion.
The other point of contention is that Japan wanted a percentage of the revenues in perpetuity. That is why the interest rate on the "loan" they provided for their HSR projects seem cheaper. Japan's business strategy for these HSR projects is similar to a bank that wants to provide the mortgage for a shopping mall and also charge a percentage of the mall owner's income forever. This is not even considering the fact that the host will be entirely reliant on Japan for service and repairs if anything goes wrong, thus making any hiccups in the system last longer.
In contrast, China's strategy is to help build up not just the infrastructure but also the local industries that will not only help build the HSR network but also maintain (and maybe extend) the HSR network without China's assistance. The fact of the matter is that every nation's socioeconomic and ecological environment is unique and it makes sense that local companies would have a better understanding of the needs of the local populace than a foreign company hence future trainsets would be made with adjustments that cater to the local market using the Chinese trainsets as their original baseline.
You know the old saying "give a man a fish vs. teach a man to fish"? Japan's approach is the "give a man a fish" approach whereas China's approach is the "teach a man to fish" approach.
It's full of lies.
If China is really more beneficial to Indonesia than Japan, why did the Indonesian government approach Japan with the HSR Surabaya extension project?
nope. Indonesian government approach China for Surabaya extension
Well said 💯
@@NoRyan1983China has a good track record on many projects, so I don't believe you.
@@NoRyan1983 liers just like western medias
It is business, but Indonesia chose a right partner this time
インドと日本仲良くやっていこうぜ！
Nope, the main was not the price. It was because the scenario of investment. Indonesia wants B2B, as for Japan insist as G2G. China have a flexible scenario.. so Indonesia and China finally deal with B2B.
Well, that's only because Indian line will be 3 times bigger than Indonesian one.
While Indian line so far has already been deployed 6 times (I,e. 1:26 6 years) as the Indonesia one 😂😂😂
We Indians definitely need to work on our infrastructure, the threat is not Indonesia but China, they had their bullet trains from 2008 and now are exporting them meanwhile we couldn't even fix a promised deadline for our projects.
Angry is good but Transfer of Technologi for Indonesia is the best
Indonesia's bullet train project is smaller and cheaper than India's project and started first🤮🤮🤮
India talks big, bigger and biggest but accomplished nothing...
@@silverianjannvs5315 who talks big from india???who do u hear boasting abt india???the comments of utube where 50% filled with kids or what????i don't get the idea of people hearing india boasting cuz the indian govt never boasted or flexed in front of any country.
@@silverianjannvs5315 96.35% of India's railway is electrified, even if you combine china & Indonesia together they don't have this feat, only in projecting ignorency you're top at. And the comments are filled with CCP trolls that's something we need to rely on if we are true to our words.
👍👍👍👏🙏🙏🙏thank you for your sharing
indonesia using cr400af is 420 km/h.operating speed 350km/h not 300
Maksud nya teknologi yg ditransfer ke Indonesia itu teknologi Dg kecepatan operasional 300 km/jam gitu
Kalo teknologi diatas itu China nya gak mau ngasih. jadi ada banyak teknologi dalam kereta cepat itu. Bisa rel nya bisa sistem kemudi nya bisa juga roda nya bisa juga mesin kecepatan kereta nya. Sampai sini paham??
@@giveaway999 250 keknya.. bukan 300..
Chosing China is a nightmare thats for sure.. I would rather chose Japan
😂😂 lol japan
India is lucky to get Japan. If they give the project to US, they will have to pay penalties and sanctions to US for the delays ! Clever people chooses the right partners for commercial project and not political motivated reasons. India can't build a train track and wanted to be a superpower? Next life maybe. And they are talking about India, Middle East and Europe route??? Please wait another 100 years. All talks is free, building infarstructure isn't , which China is doing to BRI. Put money and action where the mouth is.