Rail grinding removes corrugating and restores the rail to the correct profile after many ton miles of wear. It doesn’t roughen up the rail for better adhesion.
@@timkis64 no the increased rolling resistance can significantly eat up at fuel costs. Many modern train wheels have a surface area smaller than a dime. It’s cheaper to have a sand blaster on the train and to dump sand as needed when traction is limited.
@@timkis64 also making the rail head rough, would be counterintuitive, it would also increase repair costs, and the wheel sets would need to be replaced due to damage. In this case, it's not the same as when we try to pick up a box and our hands slip, then we lightly wet them or put on gloves for better grip.
I've worked for 2 different manufacturing companies that build equipment for Loram (and many others). It's always satisfying to see the stuff you've help create in action all around the world. The company I work for now just built 4 legacy rail grinders for Loram this past year. Keep on filming this kind of stuff, there are people who enjoy it
That thing just passed my house two days ago in California. They have to follow it with firetrucks and firemen on foot here that put fires out as it moves. (and it moves a lot slower here)
Yes!!!!! It was out here on the bnsf line in Yorba linda/placentia on orangethorpe rd.... I was like wtf is that. Got to walk up close to see it when they stopped.
Yes that was RG408. I work on the sister train the RG410. It would’ve been us coming through there but we switched up routes this year although both machines met up and shutdown and started up in Yermo. I have no idea where 408 is but we’ve made it across Nevada, went to Denver and now headed to Salt Lake City. I will give this warning though. If you do happen to see one of these machines grinding, please stay back. The stones that are touching the rail are 25lbs each and are spinning at close to 3700rpm. If one flies off and hits you, well you know the rest.
Well over time and a lot of trains, the rails get worn down to where they become smooth. The rail grinder grinds the rails and makes them rough for better traction for the locomotives.
The smoother the rail the more traction there is. The reason the rails are ground is because the top surface becomes hardened due to the weight rolling over it constantly. This hardened layer needs to be removed or it will start cracking
Complete newbie to rail here, what is harder the track or the train wheels? I have this vision of hard steel wheels forming an indentation in the track at the contact point and this indentation travelling all along the track at the contact point when the train is moving-would that be correct?
@@evanleebodiestrains weigh a lot. Locomotives can weigh in over 300,000 lbs. Freight cars can get up around 280,000. All that rolling over and over hardens the rail head that a hacksaw can’t scratch it. On two-track mainlines, most of the traffic is one direction one particular track. Simply walking across one of these tracks at a crossing, and there is a definite pattern to the way the rail hardens and wears. Also, you have a powerful locomotive pulling, and the wheels are dragging the track backward, while the rest of the train is steamrolling it forward. You can’t see it, but the action to the track on the molecular level becomes evident. That hardness can also cause the rail to crack. Along with the rail grinding, Sperry has defect detectors that will do inspections of track. Magnetic and electrical resistance can see inside a rail where a track inspector can only see defects that are detectable from a visual perspective.
I work next to Humboldt switch yard in Minneapolis they're there quite often sometimes for days on end it's crazy how much you need to maintain the tracks
Hey! I'm a worder on rail grinder 406. We grind down any imperfection that's on the rails like wheel burns and stuff like that. Makes the rails smooth and last longer
I don’t know if anyone can answer this dumb question , why don’t we have anything like this reconditioning our train tracks here in Windsor Ontario Canada? I have lived by many train tracks and never seen anything like this,
Yes we have machines that grind on CP. Not sure if exact locations since I’m in the states but a few of the guys I was in training went lived up there and went to the CP side to grind
They run on predictors. This area looks like it has double gates, probably a “no horn” zone. The gates predict when the train is coming and are to be down WITHIN 30 seconds of the train arriving to the island (the road). In this case, you’re seeing the second set of gates (that block the “other side of the road”) come down as the train arrived. Plus because it’s moving slower, it doesn’t need to be down as far in advance.
It must be one of the only areas of Springfield where they still have horn zone?? I thought Springfield Ohio is pretty much no horns on with those goofy electronic nonsense
@@Undar8ed03 what's that? You're speaking Aramaic, ginger, or something, cuz I can't understand the soulless when they speak. Yes. Yes You sold your soul lol. To be willing to jump through that many hoops just to do a job your great great grandpa did with a elementary level education. That's selling your soul 🤣 Railroads don't want good workers anymore, they want obedient workers. Congratulations, you're a yes man 😆
Oof. When someone who's never worked in the industry sounds like someone who worked in the industry.... oof No I never worked for Loram because I am not in the market for selling my soul. Between moving to BFE flyover country just to "train" some pun intended. To have to have availability 365 and be willing to travel 365 lol. So applicants must not have family or must have family they hate, to apply. Sorry if you want to see your kids grow up, sorry if you wanted to make sure your wife isn't banging the neighbor that's actually around all the time. Loram is a joke. Their business culture is toxic. Only lifeless, soulless worker drones need apply 🤣
Rail grinding removes corrugating and restores the rail to the correct profile after many ton miles of wear. It doesn’t roughen up the rail for better adhesion.
Thank you for your explanation. In my country Argentina doesn't exists this procedure. So we have derailments one time and once again.
intetesting.i would've assumed it would allow the drive axles to get a better gripping surface on long grades where slippage can occur.
@@timkis64 no the increased rolling resistance can significantly eat up at fuel costs. Many modern train wheels have a surface area smaller than a dime. It’s cheaper to have a sand blaster on the train and to dump sand as needed when traction is limited.
Exactly
@@timkis64 also making the rail head rough, would be counterintuitive, it would also increase repair costs, and the wheel sets would need to be replaced due to damage. In this case, it's not the same as when we try to pick up a box and our hands slip, then we lightly wet them or put on gloves for better grip.
I've worked for 2 different manufacturing companies that build equipment for Loram (and many others). It's always satisfying to see the stuff you've help create in action all around the world. The company I work for now just built 4 legacy rail grinders for Loram this past year. Keep on filming this kind of stuff, there are people who enjoy it
I'll see videos on rail channels of locomotives i helped rebuild that i did a ton of wiring on. I understand the satisfaction
I'm amazed at the level of ingenuity that the railroad has with all of it's various track building/maintenance machines.
Cool! I didn't realize this was done. Learned something today. 😊
Just had one of these come through town not too long ago. Was an intersting sight, but my god the stench lol
That thing just passed my house two days ago in California. They have to follow it with firetrucks and firemen on foot here that put fires out as it moves. (and it moves a lot slower here)
Yes!!!!! It was out here on the bnsf line in Yorba linda/placentia on orangethorpe rd.... I was like wtf is that. Got to walk up close to see it when they stopped.
Yes that was RG408. I work on the sister train the RG410. It would’ve been us coming through there but we switched up routes this year although both machines met up and shutdown and started up in Yermo. I have no idea where 408 is but we’ve made it across Nevada, went to Denver and now headed to Salt Lake City.
I will give this warning though. If you do happen to see one of these machines grinding, please stay back. The stones that are touching the rail are 25lbs each and are spinning at close to 3700rpm. If one flies off and hits you, well you know the rest.
My best friend, that's a great video. I will always cheer for you in Korea I'm looking forward to a great video. Have a nice day.
Those gates came down pretty late, train was almost on the crossing.
Well over time and a lot of trains, the rails get worn down to where they become smooth. The rail grinder grinds the rails and makes them rough for better traction for the locomotives.
How much metal does it take off?
@@evanleebodies Quick Google search shows between .004 and .012 (inch) depending on what part of the rail is being ground.
The smoother the rail the more traction there is. The reason the rails are ground is because the top surface becomes hardened due to the weight rolling over it constantly. This hardened layer needs to be removed or it will start cracking
Complete newbie to rail here, what is harder the track or the train wheels? I have this vision of hard steel wheels forming an indentation in the track at the contact point and this indentation travelling all along the track at the contact point when the train is moving-would that be correct?
@@evanleebodiestrains weigh a lot.
Locomotives can weigh in over 300,000 lbs.
Freight cars can get up around 280,000.
All that rolling over and over hardens the rail head that a hacksaw can’t scratch it.
On two-track mainlines, most of the traffic is one direction one particular track.
Simply walking across one of these tracks at a crossing, and there is a definite pattern to the way the rail hardens and wears.
Also, you have a powerful locomotive pulling, and the wheels are dragging the track backward, while the rest of the train is steamrolling it forward.
You can’t see it, but the action to the track on the molecular level becomes evident.
That hardness can also cause the rail to crack.
Along with the rail grinding, Sperry has defect detectors that will do inspections of track.
Magnetic and electrical resistance can see inside a rail where a track inspector can only see defects that are detectable from a visual perspective.
I always see it parked but never actually seen it being used 😎👍
That would be wild to see at night.
It sure is
I work on one these exact machines. I have plenty of at night footage. On the machine and behind it in the water truck
Would really like to see before and after
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It’s not really noticeable to the human eye. You’d have to get gauges and testers to show the difference.
Never seen that before. Cool video.b
the snow at night made this super cool
Yeah I love seeing the rail grinder
NICE VIDEO DREW REAL GOOD CATCH.KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK.
I work next to Humboldt switch yard in Minneapolis they're there quite often sometimes for days on end it's crazy how much you need to maintain the tracks
Perfect species of train family from Half Life 2 universe
Does anybody know if this process of grinding is carried out on UK tracks?
Yes, we have a similar setup.
I have always been driving when I've seen one of these, so I never actually got to watch. Fascinating
That is freaking cool. Reminds me of toys that shoot out sparks. I wonder how often they have to grind down the rails?
They are years between a similar schedule to ballast replacement
I just saw one the other day go by my house and I see them at least once a year.. (you should see it at night! 😮lol)
Now that’s impressive
Look at the cooling fan set ups too. 😎
Looks like someone is running their track cleaner on the layout XD
cool on the grinder!
How often are the tracks grounded?
I work on a grinder that maintains the UP rails. We come through once a year.
@@Undar8ed03 I was thinking like once a month maybe, thanks for info.
Train in Ohio???
just another reason why i like trains
whats the purpose of this work? never seen this before.
It’s a maintenance of way rail grinder
Hey! I'm a worder on rail grinder 406. We grind down any imperfection that's on the rails like wheel burns and stuff like that. Makes the rails smooth and last longer
I’ve heard of the news about the train derailment explosion that happening in East Palestine Ohio and no one was injured.
I don’t know if anyone can answer this dumb question , why don’t we have anything like this reconditioning our train tracks here in Windsor Ontario Canada? I have lived by many train tracks and never seen anything like this,
We did have these once in Montreal-Ouest
Yes we have machines that grind on CP. Not sure if exact locations since I’m in the states but a few of the guys I was in training went lived up there and went to the CP side to grind
Hello I am new to the train enthusiast world 😁 I just want to know what is this train doing ?
It’s a rail grinder and it’s grinding the rails
What is the spray at the end? Great vid thank you👍
I would assume it’s water to put out any embers and cool the tracks back down, from the friction. You know what they say about assumptions though.
It’s a soapy water solution and it sprays out the side water tank
@@Locomotive-works-4002 thank you👍
Thanks
You’re welcome
why not film the fresh rail:)
gotta love iphone lenses
A normal day in ohio
Big tanks must be the def tanks
Water tanks.
Did that gate go down just as the train was crossing???? That doesn't seem right....
The grease freeze when it’s cold outside
But it’s working fine now
Mega-heavy load 😮
Duno why, but this thing makes me fear AI.
My hometown 👍😀
Modern Technology... Wow !!
Never seen anything like this in the uk 👀
Nice.
Nice...do you captured this
Can I use this video in my train compilation video credit to you in video will be given
Did we just watch the Rail Crossing Gates come down at last second to stop cars !!!!! No wonder cars hit trains.....
They run on predictors. This area looks like it has double gates, probably a “no horn” zone. The gates predict when the train is coming and are to be down WITHIN 30 seconds of the train arriving to the island (the road). In this case, you’re seeing the second set of gates (that block the “other side of the road”) come down as the train arrived. Plus because it’s moving slower, it doesn’t need to be down as far in advance.
I missed it
It must be one of the only areas of Springfield where they still have horn zone??
I thought Springfield Ohio is pretty much no horns on with those goofy electronic nonsense
Yeah it is but if you go out to the fairgrounds you can get horn
At mile post 178
But they have to honk their horn to let cars know they are moving again
@@Locomotive-works-4002 oh okay. That wasn't too sure cuz I know Springfield you know they went completely almost bonkers on that no horn stuff
Yeah I don’t like the quiet zone
Can’t even be a normal train in ohio
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Swag like
Id hate to be upwind of that going by
Reminds me of the time my wife’s wheel bearing’s went out……hog
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!!!"WWWOOOWWW"!!!
Nah that’s only in ohio
Sad thing is you literally have to sell your soul to work at Loram
Not sure what you mean. I work here and I haven’t sold my soul.
@@Undar8ed03 what's that? You're speaking Aramaic, ginger, or something, cuz I can't understand the soulless when they speak.
Yes. Yes You sold your soul lol.
To be willing to jump through that many hoops just to do a job your great great grandpa did with a elementary level education. That's selling your soul 🤣
Railroads don't want good workers anymore, they want obedient workers. Congratulations, you're a yes man 😆
@@FirstMilitia434 I take it you used to work at Loram. Sounds like a disgruntled ex-employee to me
Oof. When someone who's never worked in the industry sounds like someone who worked in the industry.... oof
No I never worked for Loram because I am not in the market for selling my soul. Between moving to BFE flyover country just to "train" some pun intended. To have to have availability 365 and be willing to travel 365 lol. So applicants must not have family or must have family they hate, to apply. Sorry if you want to see your kids grow up, sorry if you wanted to make sure your wife isn't banging the neighbor that's actually around all the time.
Loram is a joke. Their business culture is toxic. Only lifeless, soulless worker drones need apply 🤣
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LORAM
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Amber's fly further than the directed spray.
Hi, nice video. I’m interested in your video, and have sent you an email. Looking forward to hear from you soon, many thanks.
Were od Homer Simpson?
Where’s the BEFORE & AFTER Video of the
Tracks ??? 👎
nice🚅