They cast actual Native American actors to play the Native American werewolves so that's something and I'm sure it gave a lot of people an introduction to vampire literature and probably gothic literature
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There is one major thing I actually like about twilight. One thing stephenie Meyer did really well and entirely by accident, and that is the conflicts between covens. Let me explain, wile it's closed over the idea that vampires in this world are so powerful and fast they section off vast territories for there covens makes sense. They need to be careful with not over hunting and drawing attention to themselves. Not because humans pose much threat but to not provoke a challenge from rival covens. To draw attention to one is to draw attention to all. I also really like the idea that wile older vampires have more control and experience, newborn vampires are actually physically stronger for a time especially as it comes with drawbacks. Newborn vampires are stronger, faster, and have slightly sharper senses at the cost of self control and focus. Veronica proved just how big a threat a newborn army can be to even a powerful and entrenched coven. Even if the local coven have psychic abilities. Jasper's backstory proves just how brutal inter-coven feuds and territory disputes can be. And I'll even give the powers that some of the vampires gain after turning a pass, as given the turning process literally perfects the human body it stand to reason that certain people who have psychic potential would have the abilitys amped considerably. Latent psychic potential also explains Jacobs tribe and the "Spirit warriors", astral projection and possession. Following the logic a considerably powerful enough warrior would possess a wolf's body and psychically force a physical change on the body to become human is possible. In all and by complete accident Myer has created the skeleton of a fascinating world where clans of psychically powerful warriors are constantly at war with each other and kept contained by the vampire Mafia. Just imagine what twilight could have been if it wasn't a complete bastardization of Romeo and Juliet.
I was never a Twihard, but I do remember inhaling those books the first time around. When I tried to re-read them it was actual agony. Also while the sparkling was a little absurd, I liked that there was a reason for it. Steph had an internal logic to her vampires and was pretty consistent with them, which you gotta give credit to.
Yeah, as much as people complain about the sparkling there I do think there's more internl logic to sparkling than to magically combusting into flame when you're hit by Twilight. The only reason people find the sunlight thing less absurd is because they're more used to it.
I think one thing Twilight doesn't get credit for is that it's continuously inspired people to start reading and writing. Countless authors will tell you Twilight inspired them to start their writing or publish their stories. Listen to First Draft podcast by Sarah Enni. Half the authors she speaks to say Twilight kickstarted their passion for books. It's why I started writing at and now I have several novels under my belt. Including a vampire one. 😭🙏🌹 It also changed both the publishing and movie industries and literally birthed the YA bracket whole as far as books go.
Honestly I love the outfit Maven is rocking in this video. The corset looks like it’s good quality and the long sleeve mesh top mimics the old dress style of long sleeves
Thank you for pointing out the "Sparkling means they would win in a showdown" point. I always thought it was so ridiculous that people used the "they sparkle" talking point to call them pussies; you're right, it's WAY less wimpy to react to sunlight by bursting into flames. I get that the actual complaint is that the sparkling is a symptom of the way the franchise panders, but speaking strictly about the mythos itself, being immune to sunlight is kind of a badass change to make to the monsters. If the story had actually kept them as monsters, these vampires would have been terrifying.
Funny enough, vampires weren't originally vulnerable to sunlight. It was Nosferatu that added the sunlight threat to the vampire mythos (for better or worse). Most just slept during the daytime, like the original Dracula from Bram Stoker's novel, and in Hellsing (published in 1998) Alucard was completely immune to sunlight and pretty much every single weakness commonly associated with vampires. As much as I hate Twilight, I must confess that they would be pretty tough in a fight and hard to defeat. Thankfully there are a few vampires that would still whoop their asses. Alucard is one of those few. Caine from V:tM would be another epic curbstomp. A large portion of other vamps, however, would be dust in a heartbeat.
@@Hauptseite In Eastern European folklore, vampires aren't hurt by sunlight, just dormant by day. A few vampires in the Greek islands are *strongest* at noon. While their are some hurt by sunlight, they're the exception to the rule.
@@calebwheeler8143 "While their are some hurt by sunlight, they're the exception to the rule." Yes? I was making this point already. Interesting detail about the Greek island vampires being strongest at noon, though.
Twilight vamps definately get a bad rap in this regard. They are one of the most powerful, and therefore potentially most dangerous and scary vampires out there. Unlike vamps in other fiction, humans basically have no chance against them. Most other vamp fiction have human hunters who with the right training can kill vamps. But I don't think humans can actually kill Twilight vamps (short of using more modern weaponry like maybe flame throwers or whatever). Just because they sparkle doesn't mean they're not incredibly powerful and dangerous. I think the only reason people often don't see that is because the vamps we see are this nice wholesome family.
@@noelbernabe8704 I mean I DO dislike this franchise. But the mythos is not the problem. The meat of the story is an abstinence parable. And mormonism is just antifeminist yall. Harry Potter has flaws, but it has themes of bravery, and dealing with grief, and as Mark Twain put it; "not letting your schooling stand in the way of your education" What is Twilight about? "Wait until marriage to get Satanic superpowers or have hiz babis" Unrelated, I just finished watching "The Ringing Bell" with my mom? It's a good fairytale, and there were some details I hadn't heard of the story, so I'm glad I watched it, but I'd give the English dub a 5/10: voice acting for Chirin was ear-bleeding, dialogue cheesy, I'm really hoping the theme song had better lyrics in Japanese. I'll give you 3 guesses why I wanted to watch that movie; which other TV show it's relevant to.
Valiant attempt. In relation to the Edward and Bella "love" story, I think it's significant that Edward falls for the first girl whose mind he can't read. If he'd been able to see how self-absorbed and uninspired her internal dialogue really was...then he may have fallen off the "vegetarian" wagon, but that would have been the end of the story. I tend to agree with many of the other commentators that one of the main problems with Twilight is that nothing feels earned. The rewards come without cost and I'm not just referring to plot. Even the vampires are deprived of (almost) any consequences for their immortality. It's these consequences that have made them such an important and even tragic figure in literature. The moral ambiguity of prolonging one's life by taking it from another...Twilight vampires can become "vegetarians". Vampires find themselves banished to perpetual darkness...Twilight vampires can bath in the sunlight as long as there are no humans around to watch them twinkle. The only real price we see for Twilight vampires is paid by female vampires alone; that of being biologically sterilized, and since the only progeny a vampire is supposed to produce is achieved by turning a human anyway...it's hardly heart-rending.
I doubt if you could read anyone's mind you'd be able to feel a strong connection with them. What we do I feel is far more significant than what we think, actions speak louder than words as they say.
You know what drives me nuts? They're feeding on endangered species. Grizzly bears, mountain lions, those are protected animals. I mean, they're not even getting blood from a butcher or using Carlisle's connections to get donated human blood, nothing, they jump right to the most morally reprehensible blood source apart from humans. And honestly, considering that Edward's previous sources of human blood were evildoers and people close to death, I honestly never bought their insistence throughout that driving the local predators to extinction was less of an awful thing to do.
Donated blood is meant for humans who need blood transfusions and could be in serious medical trouble (even die in some cases) if they don't get it. How is that morally better than feeding on animals? I agree, it's better if they left endangered species alone, but I still value human lives first.
I'm assuming in their world, since they started getting donated human blood in the fourth book (I was at one point a twelve-year-old, so I did read them) that they don't have the same shortage of donated blood that we do. That, or he's getting it at the end of its shelf life when it's no longer medically useful and they'd just throw it out anyway. But what's more, I've never considered it morally better to put the lives of humans above the lives of creatures vital to the ecosystem. That's what causes one ecological disaster after another. You take top predators out of an area, that area very quickly becomes unlivable; we saw it happen in Yellowstone when the wolves were extirpated for the sake of livestock, selling wolf pelts and trophy hunting. Would I let someone die to keep that from happening? Yes, I would.
I was that teenage girl that loved Twilight and I’m not ashamed of it. If boys can dream of becoming a vigilante superhero and watch unnecessary violence then girl should be allowed to read/watch unrealistic romance stuff. Both need to be educated about healthy human interaction. Be it not to resort to violence or what a healthy relationship is.
Bonus points for having the strength to not make one of the good points about Twilight the fact that Twilight had an end. I personally cannot say that I have, or ever had, the willpower to do the same.
I agree and I'm unashamedly a Twilight fan. I think she could have gone the other way and I'd probably agree with her on all points but it's refreshing to see someone do something different. All the hate gets a bit tiring after a while, negativity in general does.
Arturo Stojanoff And honestly am I the only sick of obligatory Twilight jokes whenever any vampires show up? Yeah we get it Meyerpires are too prissy for your garrr reflex. But this franchise has been dead for years (and deader than dead along with the teen paranormal romance trend and it’s unintentional spinoff dying as well). Just! Let! It! Die! I swear you people are obsessed with this franchise tan the actual fans, at least they moved the hell on!
I noticed only now that you used Professor Abronsius' song about books from "Tanz der Vampire" during your talk about all the books coming out. I really think I should have noticed that earlier since it's my absolut favourite musical. That's such a great idea!
I liked the back round characters they were actually quite interesting and had some depth. I did not like Bella and Edward's Characters though . I guess the romance would have been fine if they was more personalities and more likeablity for Bella and Edward. The Vegetarian vampire thing was okay but the sparkle was kind of meh. Besides that I liked some parts.
How about a vampire who isn't vegetarian and doesn't sparkle, but instead doesn't have to kill victims and doesn't react inhumanly from the sun except that he can't tan, but since he had natural caramel-coloured skin as a human and is only a bit paler that's not such a big deal (unlike his girlfriend who was naturally pale, though not as chalk-white as she became as a vampire, and now can never get a tan). Oh, and when this vampire feeds, he does it by waking a teenage girl he's chosen (he's seventeen forever and because he looks and feels seventeen, feels that the amount of time he's been immortal is irrelevant) and seducing them, usually having sex with them and then feeding on them while they're too distracted. Yeah, my vampire character's a casanova jerk. Luckily, he doesn't go any further than taking off their top when he gets a girlfriend. Her rule is "Keep it above the waist or over the clothes" because she accepts distracting them as a strategy. Her way of doing it is to wake a victim, tell them exactly what she's going to do (because she gets a high out of exerting power over people) and then let them know that the only effect will be a bite mark and feeling slightly weaker than usual for a day. Then she feeds. Okay, so the characters are based off a certain cartoon couple and both characters were considered two of the biggest villains in the series (she's a ruthless backstabber, he's a sneaky manipulator - no wait, both of them are both those things), even though a more recent villain attempted to kill five people for money.
Personally, I'd argue that the twilight vampires are indeed not vampires. Vampire-fae hybrids on the other hand... (I mean come on, we're due for some fair folk love/horror, right? If "vampires" can be sparkly heartthrobs then surely fairies can be terrifying)
Fae have always been terrifying. Not even joking. Read Fablehaven, Lord and Ladies, Heart of the Fae, Shadowhunters, or any folk story. Fae may be mischievous and pretty, but thier beauty underlies a sharp cruelty. They can entrance humans with music, robbing them of thier free will. They kidnap beautiful children to be their servants. Irish faries can bring both good luck and ill fortune. Recent media has softened them (in a way that is explored in Lords and Ladies), but the origin tales of the Fae depict them as dangerous and frightening. Thier horror lies in the deception inherent in thier nature; a beautiful facade, but a fickle and dangerous temperament.
I know this is an old review but man I gotta hand it to Maven she manages to find some good/positive things about Twilight. (applauds) I tip my hat off to you Maven that can't have been easy to do lol.
i LOVE how you showed a picture of the Cirque du Freak series! that is my favorite book series of all time and it always sadden me that it is barely known
I got forced to watch the first three movies in the series... yes... there was a girl involved, and I hated every minute of it. However, I do think that it could have been at least a decent series, but there would need to be some major changes, especially in the casting.
There's lots of things terrible and inexcusable about this series, mainly the "romance"/love triangle, the way Meyer handled real criticism of the series instead of the typical "twilight sucks but I won't state why lul", and the main characters being flatter than wet cardboard. That being said, if you're willing and capable of stretching your suspension of belief while reading, the universe and the vampires themselves itself can be...interesting at the very least. Not the best, not exactly the worst, just interesting. It's certainly better than 50 shades for sure 😅 Now that I've thought about it, any kind of fictional narrative can be considered "wish fulfillment," probably one of the biggest criticisms of this series. I find that to be hypocritical to slam someone just because they have these kind of fantasies. EVERYONE has these kinds of fantasies with their other favorite books, tv shows, movies, and whatnot. Sure, well rounded characters and a universe where things can be explained well and not have too many confusing, contradicting universe laws make a universe with magic and mythical creatures believable, but it still falls under the wish fulfillment category, and I don't think that people should *solely* focus on that kind of thing because it feels so shallow conpared to the romatisization of Edward and Bella's nearly-everything-but-*physically*-abusive relationship and the lack of real consequences in the last book. It's downright childish in fact. As for the whole sparkle thing, well I mean I like glitter ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ I don't know if I'd want to glitter permanently but just because I glitter it doesn't mean I can't kick your ass, so why compromise on that just because people think it's "girly?" That's kind of sexist/misogynistic tbh... I shower you in glitter (ﾉ◕ヮ◕)ﾉ*:･ﾟ✧
15:19- The Annette Kurtis Krause novel, “The Silver Kiss”, is older that “Twilight”. It was published in 1990, that re-issue is from 2009 with a “Twilight”-inspired cover re-design.
My actual real first foray into writing fanfiction was a twilight fanfiction about Renesmee and Jacob in the future, starting their own band. It will never see the light of day, but the way I wrote the two of them really helped me think about the way I write couples. Also convinced me never to write in first person
Good Things About The Twilight Books (The Movies Just Outright Suck): Jasper-My Favorite Cullen Guy Alice-Wanted Her To Be My Best Friend The Vampires Special Abilities The Way That I Stopped Reading New Moon For Months After Edward Left Bella in the Woods The Way The Sparkle Is Described In The Novel-The Sparkle In The Movies Are A Joke The Way The Cullen’s Stick Together All The Good Things Are About The Vampires. I Never Once Saw Myself As Bella.
Twilight was my reading awakening. I’m not ashamed because it turned me into a notorious binge reader. That doesn’t mean I’m not hyper critical of the books now, I️ just have so much fun laughing at them. The Silver KISS!! It’s by the same author that wrote Blood and Chocolate!!
The fact that Meyer's "vampires" didn't have any weaknesses not only makes them less believable but it also makes them less relatable. And as much as I dislike this series, I'll also admit that there were a few things (just a few not many) that I did think worked.
I can add only one good thing about this series for me personally--I finally watched Interview With The Vampire for the first time to escape this madness that seemed to haunt my waking life. I was too young to appreciate it in 1994, read the novel for a Vampire Lit. course in college, but this franchise (and your amazing review) compelled me to rent the movie. 48 hours later it was added to my personal film library. I truly believe it’s Tom Cruise’s best performance! Also, I agree with you, Maven-Claudia is one the best vampires ever conceived!
HARRY HAD TO SAVE EDWARD'S ASS AT THE TOURNAMENT, so definitely he wins. But then again, he did advise harry about the egg underwater, so i guess that's good.
Honestly the vampire design and powers were cool. It gave them otherworldly almost godly perspective. The way they break like glass and are completely white on the inside like porcelain dolls looked really cool and had a nice contrast with their blood red eyes. The shinning in the light might not be the best looking effect, but it can be improved if behind the shining you see their rmtrue faces rotting from age and full with so little humanity that you might have a hearth attack on the spot or attack in uncontrollable anger. The werewolves I didn't like, don't know why, I just didn't like them as a how.
Ooh good idea! It makes me think of Dorian Gray. But would their faces change according to the goodness of the vampire or in spite of it? The "vegetarian" clans, like the Cullens are the most civilized and but there are other clans (I don't remember their names) who are not wilder and still feed off humans. Nevertheless, it would cause more internal conflict for vampires. Especially the ones who socialize with humans and care not to feed on them. Edward, being such an existential thinker, would be very torn because of it, thinking it's the proof that he is a monster, even if he is trying to be "good". And it would be so scary to see it as a human. Imagine Bella seeing his face deformed like that, in the forest scene! I like the werewolves, especially because they are native American characters (a thing we see too rarely!) and because they are good supernatural counterparts to vampires (cold/dead vs warm/alive) but maybe they would have benefited from being developed in a separate book.
All of the other Cullens. Induction of the Skinwalker wolf. The imposition of the Volturi and the fear of them by other vampires (they didn’t use it enough but just imagine the Volturi if they’d been set up as the non sparkly, non brooding vampire archetype. They’d be terrifying) Edit: I’ll admit if they’d trashed the love triangle and just had it be Charlie finding out one of the local celebrities and his family were vampires, while his best friends and his family were werewolves and now he has to learn to navigate this new world. That story would be amazing. And you could still include the Volturi final face off just base it on the law against humans knowing about vampires.
Twilight's vampires aren't undead. Yes, their hearts don't beat, but they never actually die (or even anything resembling it) when they turn. They go from a living human to a living vampire. Bella actually asks about that in one of the books, and it's confirmed to her that you do NOT need to be close to death to turn. Indeed, the fact that she was *technically* dead when she began turning made it seem like a fool's errand that Edward even kept pumping her full of venom and performing CPR. Same happened with Emmett turned -- Rosalie had to rush him to Carlisle (because she couldn't trust herself to turn him) because he was dying from a bear mauling and there would be no hope for him if they started too late. You MUST be alive to become a vampire.
Best thing about thid series, came from the movies: Charlie, because Billy Burke is my sarcastic soulmate and the soundtrack. They always managed to get some really good artists on there. I remember my mom and I read them and when the movie was coming out, we convinced my dad to go see it with us. We may have called it a "watered down" Underworld. He didnt hate it, but he was questioning where the werewolves were. It was kind of funny.
When Twilight hit its peak of popularity, right after the first movie, I started my first Vampire the Masquerade game, I was genuinely surprised by how many girls had started coming to my gaming sessions, it wasn't long until the idea of playing RPGs was kinda normalized with in my high school among the. In short as much as I hate Twilight, with out it I wouldn't have been able to introduce not nearly as people to possibly the best Horror RPG ever created, let alone role playing games in general as I did.
honestly them being super hot is really smart. The whole thing about them being evolved to draw in humans with their smell and hotness and whatever is a good explanation of the whole "vampires are sexy" business that would actually make sense. They've gotta attract their prey. Good on you twilight
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I tried reading these books when I was deployed in Iraq with literally nothing else to do. I... gave the entire set away after reading the first half of the first novel.
Creative doesn't necessarily mean good. Saying that Twilight's vampires are creative is like saying that Buffalo Bill's lifestyle choices were creative.
Scream Queen Here, If There's 1 thing about this town I never could stand all the damn vampires-----See what I did there....I used Something Creative 2 back up why Vampires kick ass; when all you did was sound like a 5 year old...(And I have a 6 year old, who understands vampires better then you!) With nothing 2 back your stupid comment "I don't care if Vampires R creative, I still hate them." Yeah there's a REAL argument there😝Well you know what I hate? All you dumb ass people who make stupid comments like that....and I keep having 2....Hey! Did ya hear I know Jay and Silent Bob? And with All The $ I've been making as The Scream Queen I can buy a lotta plane tickets...Say how many people wanna kick some ass!😄😎
I'm one of the few vampire fans who enjoyed Twilight it seems!! Then again, I am a wee baby who was in grade five or six when it came out, but even then I didn't get all the screaming about it that my friends did. It was actually the first novel I sat down and read to completion, up until then I was Gaston-ing it and tossing aside anything that didn't have pictures. It sparked my love of reading which is probably one of the reasons I still hold it so dear to my heart. Though that doesn't mean I adore it unconditionally. Oh no. I hate, hate, HATE Bella and Edward. Their relationship is shallow, Bella is manipulative and downright insane at sometimes which would have been good except she's the one we're meant to relate to. I'm sorry but no matter how much I love someone, I'm not going down the route of self harm for them. Bella in the book is marginally better and their relationship is a smidge more developed than in the movie but it's just so slight it's not worth looking at. In my mind, the best way to improve Twilight is to take the focus off of bland Wonder Bread Bella and Edward and shift it to character that actually have well designed backstories and interesting personalities. I think if say Jasper and Alice were the focus of the entire series, it would have been so much better. The biggest drawback for Twilight is that the main leads aren't INTERESTING. (And Edward is an emotionally manipulative stalker) I would have loved to see the romance and struggles of a woman who was locked up in a 1920's asylum who fell for the solider with a violent past, and the mutual support they would give each other as well as overcoming their past demons. But no. We get a love triangle that's built on lies on one side and feelings of inadequacy on the other. Ugh.
Actually, the Vampire Kisses series was started in 2003, about three years before Twilight. Though, the storyline is pretty similar, from what I can remember about the books.
I can't bring myself to dismiss this franchise, despite the ire it so often gets. Its dedicated entirely to the romance\goth ambiance elements of vampire mythology, but I'll go so far as to say that it handles those elements well, if you account for the demands of a teenage audience and genre fiction. In a paradoxical way, its feminist because women like it of their own accord. Society doesn't want them to like it, but they take the liberty to enjoy it anyway. Freedom is finding pleasure in the unsanctioned. That said, Breaking Dawn is terrible. They replaced everything sexy with an ad for traditional marriage, and then dragged that bad idea across 4 hours. If Dracula awoke to find that teenage girls were turned on by puritanism, he'd go back to sleep.
You said it feminist. How is that? Can you enlighten me? I have heard that the female vampires can't get pregnant but the male vampires can make a female human pregnant. How is this feminist. I think it is more sexist. Even though some said the males still have left over semen from when he was a human so he can make a female human pregnant, but why can't the female vampires pregnant. It is a very poor excuse to say that the hardness of vampires bodies make it impossible for the female to bear a child, but there is no rule said vampires can't do other humanly such as their bodies are too stiff so they are not bendy or the impossible speed and agility.
Hang on @discrete loner . Let's take the point you bring up. What does the fact that female vampires are sterile but male vampires aren't have anything to do with feminism? This is just the fabricated biology of the universe. No one is telling the female vampires not to have babies. They couldn't even if they wanted to. It's certainly a really odd piece of fantasy biology and doesn't make much sense but it's not sexist! It's like saying women can't run as fast as men so that's sexist. It's not.
That's just it, the writer actively chose not to give the female vampires the ability to have kids, even though she retconned it so that males could, could possibly hint at some form sexism.
i think if she wrote maybe small and more adult (doesn't have to be full adult cant mess with the market you got) of the Cullen's back stories in more detail or a book of how the vampires got the government type system they have. i think that could be neat.
I know I'm late for the party, and I could bring this up partially thanks to the perspective of time, but one of the most wonderful things, if not the best, to come out of Twilight is the coming together of teen girls and 40 y.o. moms that told the wold to shut up, we like what we like. Teen girls and romance fans are so often ridiculed and snubbed that it was so nice to see them giving the world the finger and enjoying the thing they love out in the open, under the blinding light of the popular culture. It was shiny. 😉
I don't know if it's because I was still thinking about the 50 Shades thing or what, but at 13:56 I definitely had to take a second because 'hooligans and whores' seemed a little bit harsh...even for the Twilight fans. 'Hooligans and HORRORS', oh, okay, *phew*....
i saw twilight get the popularity it got at the time, and i didn't read the books, and at the time, i didnt knew what twilight was about, i was to busy being a pre teen obsessed with Playstation 3 rather than reading a 1000 page book
"Deadliest warrior vampire edition... they will win" - Far away in ingland Alucard would be like: hold my wine glass... I should take care of this swiftly.
The Twilight pentalogy (IOW, 5-book/film series) is also "despised by" (a great number of) Potterheads. Granted, a vast number of Pot(ter)heads seems to be female shippers (as in, females who ship), but not all of us are.
I still have to go with the Nosferatu Primogen Daedalus. If you want creative, Daedalus is a philosopher, probable was a Toreador ghoul before being turned since he likes to paint, a skilled alchemist, lived for 3000 years, tamed his Beast, defended San Fransisco from a Methuselah, and setup his adopted son to be the new Prince. Daedalus has some mad skills. Werewolves has it just as bad. Uninteresting, under developed, what homework was done got burned, and now on the same list as Herbert the Pervert. Yes told topic is old, still backtracking because of the Blip shutdown.
And when Buffy comes 2 help me....She knocks Faith off The roof (Graduation Day) where Faith says....You did it, you killed me...Still won't help her boy though, And if there's 1 thing about this town I never could stand all the damn vampires.
Random thoughts I'm just gonna dump here: 1.) The speaking voice you use for your Vampire reviews reminds me a lot of Kate Monster from "Avenue Q," and I love that 2.) You just HAD to remind me that you live (or at least used to live) in NYC. I have a deep-seated vicious envy for people who live anywhere with a subway. Don't ask. 3.) I am no fan of "Twilight," but sans the sparkling I like Meyer's descriptions of her vampires (sans Edward), and I love the idea of one's mental strengths in live becoming supernatural powers in death. Someone online also pointed out that the vampires each become fixated on things related to their deaths. (For instance, Rosalie was murdered right before her wedding, and is obsessed with marriage and babies.) I think that's a cool concept. 4.) I read "Twilight" immediately after reading "Eldest," and compared to that series, I can name a billion and one ways in which "Twilight" is "good." It's sad but true. 5.) And one of those things, nay THE biggest difference between Meyer and Paolini, and the one thing I really respect about Stephanie Meyer, is what you pointed out: she wrote what she wanted to.
Lestat was pearly / sparkly as I read it... but i guess it is open to interpretation “My vampire nature reveals itself in extremely white and highly reflective skin that has to be powdered down for cameras of any kind.” ~ Lestat
my daughter was 13 and into twilight. I read the books and saw the movies with her, except the breaking dawn movies as she thought that would be weird. i enjoyed most of the movies and books because it was a different take on vampires. i loved vampire the masquerade game and books, and my favorite vampires were from Chelsea yarbro quinn's saint germain series. all were their own takes on vampires. ok, new moon book and movies annoyed me but otherwise i did enjoy them and wore a team alice t-shirt til it wore out. the maven did a good job reviewing the series.
Yes, I went through a Twilight phase, but now the only thing I really like about it is the wolves...and Alice and Jasper. Honestly, if there was a movie made that just focused on those two, I would absolutely watch it. They just seemed so wholesome and cute! But, with the sparkling thing...okay, I can admit it was a creative turn. But, what I don't like about it is something I heard in another review. The fact that their skin doesn't burn takes away that weakness they had. Now they just seem overpowered, like if one wants to kill you, there's literally nothing you can do about it. Though I guess they are extremely flammable?(As we saw when Victoria died) So, does that make up for it? I don't know, I just thought it was kind of weird. On another note, I really liked the video. I've watched a couple of them now, and congratulations! You now have a new subscriber!
I wasn't a fan of the movies or books but I read the first book of the comic and it was actually better. As far as I could tell in the first book, Bella was a lot more active and less blank slate, Jacob doesn't actually seem to have any sort of crush on Bella. Edward seems a bit less creepy. Did anyone read all the comics? I would be interested if anyone who read them would tell us if they were actually better than the books.
I think D&D has the best vampires, for obvious reasons of taking the most popular tropes, not doing anything to be different and them being essentially predatory corpses.
I disagree with the sparkling assessment, creative or not it doesn't fit what's more or less the definition of a vampire. Also sparkling doesn't seem like that much of a problem, couldn't they just put on some make-up and be good to go (Or become juggalos?). And I'm having a hard time imagining any vampires overpowered enough to take out the Hellsing version.
off the top of my head vampires who would totally make twilight vampires their bitch include Ib and Vehron the destroyer from tome of bill. Black court vampires, and red court vampires who were descended from Mayan blood gods in Dresden files. Any master or ancient level vampire from the monster hunters international series. Higher vampires from the witcher series. Janos Audron, Vorador, and Kain from the legacy of Kain franchise. Alucard from Helsing Ancient vampires from Stephan kings salems lot, and the gunslinger series. Lilith and Warlow from true blood. and of course almost any interpretation of Dracula done through out the years.
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while I would credit the twilight vamps for certainly being top tear in regards to power, the vampires of the elder scrolls and hellsing would destroy them and easily
14:56. Almost six years later, the director of the remake, Matt Reeves, is now coming off of making, what many people consider, one of the greatest movie trilogies in recent history with the Planet of the Apes remakes. So, I guess we can thank Twilight in some way?
They cast actual Native American actors to play the Native American werewolves so that's something and I'm sure it gave a lot of people an introduction to vampire literature and probably gothic literature
gothic no vampire barely but we can give it that for the sake of mercy
It got teens reading at all.
@@stitchtehzombie7420 yeah, ''distant'' whatever that means.
Alice Cullen is one of the few good things to come out of Twilight. I maintain that.
got that right
Emmett and Carlisle are my favorites!
Old but same
@sinwithagrin Yeah, Alice is a cute lil' Malkavian.
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There is one major thing I actually like about twilight. One thing stephenie Meyer did really well and entirely by accident, and that is the conflicts between covens.
Let me explain, wile it's closed over the idea that vampires in this world are so powerful and fast they section off vast territories for there covens makes sense. They need to be careful with not over hunting and drawing attention to themselves. Not because humans pose much threat but to not provoke a challenge from rival covens. To draw attention to one is to draw attention to all. I also really like the idea that wile older vampires have more control and experience, newborn vampires are actually physically stronger for a time especially as it comes with drawbacks. Newborn vampires are stronger, faster, and have slightly sharper senses at the cost of self control and focus.
Veronica proved just how big a threat a newborn army can be to even a powerful and entrenched coven. Even if the local coven have psychic abilities.
Jasper's backstory proves just how brutal inter-coven feuds and territory disputes can be.
And I'll even give the powers that some of the vampires gain after turning a pass, as given the turning process literally perfects the human body it stand to reason that certain people who have psychic potential would have the abilitys amped considerably.
Latent psychic potential also explains Jacobs tribe and the "Spirit warriors", astral projection and possession. Following the logic a considerably powerful enough warrior would possess a wolf's body and psychically force a physical change on the body to become human is possible.
In all and by complete accident Myer has created the skeleton of a fascinating world where clans of psychically powerful warriors are constantly at war with each other and kept contained by the vampire Mafia.
Just imagine what twilight could have been if it wasn't a complete bastardization of Romeo and Juliet.
Damn.
Soo true.
I was never a Twihard, but I do remember inhaling those books the first time around. When I tried to re-read them it was actual agony.
Also while the sparkling was a little absurd, I liked that there was a reason for it. Steph had an internal logic to her vampires and was pretty consistent with them, which you gotta give credit to.
Yeah, as much as people complain about the sparkling there I do think there's more internl logic to sparkling than to magically combusting into flame when you're hit by Twilight. The only reason people find the sunlight thing less absurd is because they're more used to it.
I think one thing Twilight doesn't get credit for is that it's continuously inspired people to start reading and writing. Countless authors will tell you Twilight inspired them to start their writing or publish their stories. Listen to First Draft podcast by Sarah Enni. Half the authors she speaks to say Twilight kickstarted their passion for books. It's why I started writing at and now I have several novels under my belt. Including a vampire one. 😭🙏🌹 It also changed both the publishing and movie industries and literally birthed the YA bracket whole as far as books go.
Wow, that's kind of sad.
Honestly I love the outfit Maven is rocking in this video. The corset looks like it’s good quality and the long sleeve mesh top mimics the old dress style of long sleeves
Michael Sheen. That's my positive.
He actually looked like he was having a good ass time with it all. Waaaaay too talented for this franchise lol.😂
Thank you for pointing out the "Sparkling means they would win in a showdown" point. I always thought it was so ridiculous that people used the "they sparkle" talking point to call them pussies; you're right, it's WAY less wimpy to react to sunlight by bursting into flames. I get that the actual complaint is that the sparkling is a symptom of the way the franchise panders, but speaking strictly about the mythos itself, being immune to sunlight is kind of a badass change to make to the monsters. If the story had actually kept them as monsters, these vampires would have been terrifying.
Funny enough, vampires weren't originally vulnerable to sunlight. It was Nosferatu that added the sunlight threat to the vampire mythos (for better or worse). Most just slept during the daytime, like the original Dracula from Bram Stoker's novel, and in Hellsing (published in 1998) Alucard was completely immune to sunlight and pretty much every single weakness commonly associated with vampires. As much as I hate Twilight, I must confess that they would be pretty tough in a fight and hard to defeat. Thankfully there are a few vampires that would still whoop their asses. Alucard is one of those few. Caine from V:tM would be another epic curbstomp. A large portion of other vamps, however, would be dust in a heartbeat.
@@Hauptseite In Eastern European folklore, vampires aren't hurt by sunlight, just dormant by day. A few vampires in the Greek islands are *strongest* at noon. While their are some hurt by sunlight, they're the exception to the rule.
@@calebwheeler8143 "While their are some hurt by sunlight, they're the exception to the rule."
Yes? I was making this point already. Interesting detail about the Greek island vampires being strongest at noon, though.
Twilight vamps definately get a bad rap in this regard. They are one of the most powerful, and therefore potentially most dangerous and scary vampires out there.
Unlike vamps in other fiction, humans basically have no chance against them. Most other vamp fiction have human hunters who with the right training can kill vamps. But I don't think humans can actually kill Twilight vamps (short of using more modern weaponry like maybe flame throwers or whatever).
Just because they sparkle doesn't mean they're not incredibly powerful and dangerous. I think the only reason people often don't see that is because the vamps we see are this nice wholesome family.
@@noelbernabe8704 I mean I DO dislike this franchise. But the mythos is not the problem. The meat of the story is an abstinence parable. And mormonism is just antifeminist yall. Harry Potter has flaws, but it has themes of bravery, and dealing with grief, and as Mark Twain put it; "not letting your schooling stand in the way of your education"
What is Twilight about? "Wait until marriage to get Satanic superpowers or have hiz babis"
Unrelated, I just finished watching "The Ringing Bell" with my mom? It's a good fairytale, and there were some details I hadn't heard of the story, so I'm glad I watched it, but I'd give the English dub a 5/10: voice acting for Chirin was ear-bleeding, dialogue cheesy, I'm really hoping the theme song had better lyrics in Japanese. I'll give you 3 guesses why I wanted to watch that movie; which other TV show it's relevant to.
Valiant attempt.
In relation to the Edward and Bella "love" story, I think it's significant that Edward falls for the first girl whose mind he can't read. If he'd been able to see how self-absorbed and uninspired her internal dialogue really was...then he may have fallen off the "vegetarian" wagon, but that would have been the end of the story.
I tend to agree with many of the other commentators that one of the main problems with Twilight is that nothing feels earned. The rewards come without cost and I'm not just referring to plot. Even the vampires are deprived of (almost) any consequences for their immortality. It's these consequences that have made them such an important and even tragic figure in literature. The moral ambiguity of prolonging one's life by taking it from another...Twilight vampires can become "vegetarians". Vampires find themselves banished to perpetual darkness...Twilight vampires can bath in the sunlight as long as there are no humans around to watch them twinkle.
The only real price we see for Twilight vampires is paid by female vampires alone; that of being biologically sterilized, and since the only progeny a vampire is supposed to produce is achieved by turning a human anyway...it's hardly heart-rending.
I doubt if you could read anyone's mind you'd be able to feel a strong connection with them. What we do I feel is far more significant than what we think, actions speak louder than words as they say.
You know what drives me nuts? They're feeding on endangered species. Grizzly bears, mountain lions, those are protected animals. I mean, they're not even getting blood from a butcher or using Carlisle's connections to get donated human blood, nothing, they jump right to the most morally reprehensible blood source apart from humans. And honestly, considering that Edward's previous sources of human blood were evildoers and people close to death, I honestly never bought their insistence throughout that driving the local predators to extinction was less of an awful thing to do.
Donated blood is meant for humans who need blood transfusions and could be in serious medical trouble (even die in some cases) if they don't get it. How is that morally better than feeding on animals? I agree, it's better if they left endangered species alone, but I still value human lives first.
I'm assuming in their world, since they started getting donated human blood in the fourth book (I was at one point a twelve-year-old, so I did read them) that they don't have the same shortage of donated blood that we do. That, or he's getting it at the end of its shelf life when it's no longer medically useful and they'd just throw it out anyway.
But what's more, I've never considered it morally better to put the lives of humans above the lives of creatures vital to the ecosystem. That's what causes one ecological disaster after another. You take top predators out of an area, that area very quickly becomes unlivable; we saw it happen in Yellowstone when the wolves were extirpated for the sake of livestock, selling wolf pelts and trophy hunting. Would I let someone die to keep that from happening? Yes, I would.
If they had to go after wild animals, why not ones that are pretty much everywhere and can be pesky? Like deer perhaps?
You are technically correct, the best kind of correct.
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I was that teenage girl that loved Twilight and I’m not ashamed of it.
If boys can dream of becoming a vigilante superhero and watch unnecessary violence then girl should be allowed to read/watch unrealistic romance stuff.
Both need to be educated about healthy human interaction. Be it not to resort to violence or what a healthy relationship is.
Except boys get made of for watching garbage movies without any substance, so girls should experience the same. Twilight is bad on almost every level.
Bonus points for having the strength to not make one of the good points about Twilight the fact that Twilight had an end. I personally cannot say that I have, or ever had, the willpower to do the same.
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Even franchises I like, that's a good point. Could you imagine if Firefly became the Simpsons?
I love how the song about books from "Tanz der Vampire" is in the background.
You're the first person to ever notice that
I like this. Twilight sucks, but pointing it out is nothing new. Finding something good in it is so much more valuable.
I agree and I'm unashamedly a Twilight fan. I think she could have gone the other way and I'd probably agree with her on all points but it's refreshing to see someone do something different. All the hate gets a bit tiring after a while, negativity in general does.
it's a funny comedy about a fairy and a brick wall. and that's the only reason why i want to watch it all.
@@feathercat9118 Accurate description of it. lol
Arturo Stojanoff And honestly am I the only sick of obligatory Twilight jokes whenever any vampires show up? Yeah we get it Meyerpires are too prissy for your garrr reflex. But this franchise has been dead for years (and deader than dead along with the teen paranormal romance trend and it’s unintentional spinoff dying as well). Just! Let! It! Die! I swear you people are obsessed with this franchise tan the actual fans, at least they moved the hell on!
@@feathercat9118 But the sad thing is not only do vampires get ruined by Twilight, but the werewolves get ruined, too.
I watched Twilight on TV with a girl I was in love with... "The things I do for love"
I'd rather watch Twilight over 50 Shades of Grey.
I noticed only now that you used Professor Abronsius' song about books from "Tanz der Vampire" during your talk about all the books coming out.
I really think I should have noticed that earlier since it's my absolut favourite musical.
That's such a great idea!
I liked the back round characters they were actually quite interesting and had some depth.
I did not like Bella and Edward's Characters though . I guess the romance would have been fine if they was more personalities and more likeablity for Bella and Edward.
The Vegetarian vampire thing was okay but the sparkle was kind of meh. Besides that I liked some parts.
How about a vampire who isn't vegetarian and doesn't sparkle, but instead doesn't have to kill victims and doesn't react inhumanly from the sun except that he can't tan, but since he had natural caramel-coloured skin as a human and is only a bit paler that's not such a big deal (unlike his girlfriend who was naturally pale, though not as chalk-white as she became as a vampire, and now can never get a tan). Oh, and when this vampire feeds, he does it by waking a teenage girl he's chosen (he's seventeen forever and because he looks and feels seventeen, feels that the amount of time he's been immortal is irrelevant) and seducing them, usually having sex with them and then feeding on them while they're too distracted.
Yeah, my vampire character's a casanova jerk. Luckily, he doesn't go any further than taking off their top when he gets a girlfriend. Her rule is "Keep it above the waist or over the clothes" because she accepts distracting them as a strategy. Her way of doing it is to wake a victim, tell them exactly what she's going to do (because she gets a high out of exerting power over people) and then let them know that the only effect will be a bite mark and feeling slightly weaker than usual for a day. Then she feeds.
Okay, so the characters are based off a certain cartoon couple and both characters were considered two of the biggest villains in the series (she's a ruthless backstabber, he's a sneaky manipulator - no wait, both of them are both those things), even though a more recent villain attempted to kill five people for money.
Personally, I'd argue that the twilight vampires are indeed not vampires. Vampire-fae hybrids on the other hand...
(I mean come on, we're due for some fair folk love/horror, right? If "vampires" can be sparkly heartthrobs then surely fairies can be terrifying)
I was thinking the same thing tbh
Fae have always been terrifying. Not even joking. Read Fablehaven, Lord and Ladies, Heart of the Fae, Shadowhunters, or any folk story. Fae may be mischievous and pretty, but thier beauty underlies a sharp cruelty. They can entrance humans with music, robbing them of thier free will. They kidnap beautiful children to be their servants. Irish faries can bring both good luck and ill fortune. Recent media has softened them (in a way that is explored in Lords and Ladies), but the origin tales of the Fae depict them as dangerous and frightening. Thier horror lies in the deception inherent in thier nature; a beautiful facade, but a fickle and dangerous temperament.
The wicked Lovely series with Melissa Marr goes some into that territory.
agreed fae are scary.
I know this is an old review but man I gotta hand it to Maven she manages to find some good/positive things about Twilight. (applauds) I tip my hat off to you Maven that can't have been easy to do lol.
The actual best thing about twilight is the existence of the fanfic "an underestimated emotion"
i LOVE how you showed a picture of the Cirque du Freak series!
that is my favorite book series of all time and it always sadden me that it is barely known
I love the way you use Within Temptation music in your videos. "Angels" in there was perfect.
I hate twilight but I want to eat those cakes
I got forced to watch the first three movies in the series... yes... there was a girl involved, and I hated every minute of it. However, I do think that it could have been at least a decent series, but there would need to be some major changes, especially in the casting.
Philip Lindecker the casting isn’t necessarily the problem. The characters are just bland.
I’d like to see this episode… revamped… during this Twilight Renascence.
Damn steel-laced corset!
The only good thing I can say about Stephenie Meyer is that she made reading popular again.
There's lots of things terrible and inexcusable about this series, mainly the "romance"/love triangle, the way Meyer handled real criticism of the series instead of the typical "twilight sucks but I won't state why lul", and the main characters being flatter than wet cardboard. That being said, if you're willing and capable of stretching your suspension of belief while reading, the universe and the vampires themselves itself can be...interesting at the very least. Not the best, not exactly the worst, just interesting. It's certainly better than 50 shades for sure 😅
Now that I've thought about it, any kind of fictional narrative can be considered "wish fulfillment," probably one of the biggest criticisms of this series. I find that to be hypocritical to slam someone just because they have these kind of fantasies. EVERYONE has these kinds of fantasies with their other favorite books, tv shows, movies, and whatnot. Sure, well rounded characters and a universe where things can be explained well and not have too many confusing, contradicting universe laws make a universe with magic and mythical creatures believable, but it still falls under the wish fulfillment category, and I don't think that people should *solely* focus on that kind of thing because it feels so shallow conpared to the romatisization of Edward and Bella's nearly-everything-but-*physically*-abusive relationship and the lack of real consequences in the last book. It's downright childish in fact.
As for the whole sparkle thing, well I mean I like glitter ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ I don't know if I'd want to glitter permanently but just because I glitter it doesn't mean I can't kick your ass, so why compromise on that just because people think it's "girly?" That's kind of sexist/misogynistic tbh...
I shower you in glitter (ﾉ◕ヮ◕)ﾉ*:･ﾟ✧
15:19- The Annette Kurtis Krause novel, “The Silver Kiss”, is older that “Twilight”. It was published in 1990, that re-issue is from 2009 with a “Twilight”-inspired cover re-design.
under appreciated stuff right here
My actual real first foray into writing fanfiction was a twilight fanfiction about Renesmee and Jacob in the future, starting their own band. It will never see the light of day, but the way I wrote the two of them really helped me think about the way I write couples. Also convinced me never to write in first person
Good Things About The Twilight Books (The Movies Just Outright Suck):
Jasper-My Favorite Cullen Guy
Alice-Wanted Her To Be My Best Friend
The Vampires Special Abilities
The Way That I Stopped Reading New Moon For Months After Edward Left Bella in the Woods
The Way The Sparkle Is Described In The Novel-The Sparkle In The Movies Are A Joke
The Way The Cullen’s Stick Together
All The Good Things Are About The Vampires. I Never Once Saw Myself As Bella.
Twilight was my reading awakening. I’m not ashamed because it turned me into a notorious binge reader. That doesn’t mean I’m not hyper critical of the books now, I️ just have so much fun laughing at them.
The Silver KISS!! It’s by the same author that wrote Blood and Chocolate!!
The fact that Meyer's "vampires" didn't have any weaknesses not only makes them less believable but it also makes them less relatable. And as much as I dislike this series, I'll also admit that there were a few things (just a few not many) that I did think worked.
Not a Twihard, but you had really interesting points! I'm kind of seeing it in a new light with this information!
I can add only one good thing about this series for me personally--I finally watched Interview With The Vampire for the first time to escape this madness that seemed to haunt my waking life. I was too young to appreciate it in 1994, read the novel for a Vampire Lit. course in college, but this franchise (and your amazing review) compelled me to rent the movie. 48 hours later it was added to my personal film library. I truly believe it’s Tom Cruise’s best performance! Also, I agree with you, Maven-Claudia is one the best vampires ever conceived!
The soundtracks were pretty good.
Although, Twilight giving us 50 shades is and will always be a Negative!
The soundtrack. It's how I found out about Paramore and Muse haha
HARRY HAD TO SAVE EDWARD'S ASS AT THE TOURNAMENT, so definitely he wins. But then again, he did advise harry about the egg underwater, so i guess that's good.
Okay, I love how you put Sparkle On as a BGM lmao
Liking for the WT song, and the fact the first lyric is "sparkling"
Honestly the vampire design and powers were cool.
It gave them otherworldly almost godly perspective.
The way they break like glass and are completely white on the inside like porcelain dolls looked really cool and had a nice contrast with their blood red eyes.
The shinning in the light might not be the best looking effect, but it can be improved if behind the shining you see their rmtrue faces rotting from age and full with so little humanity that you might have a hearth attack on the spot or attack in uncontrollable anger.
The werewolves I didn't like, don't know why, I just didn't like them as a how.
Ooh good idea! It makes me think of Dorian Gray. But would their faces change according to the goodness of the vampire or in spite of it? The "vegetarian" clans, like the Cullens are the most civilized and but there are other clans (I don't remember their names) who are not wilder and still feed off humans. Nevertheless, it would cause more internal conflict for vampires. Especially the ones who socialize with humans and care not to feed on them. Edward, being such an existential thinker, would be very torn because of it, thinking it's the proof that he is a monster, even if he is trying to be "good". And it would be so scary to see it as a human. Imagine Bella seeing his face deformed like that, in the forest scene!
I like the werewolves, especially because they are native American characters (a thing we see too rarely!) and because they are good supernatural counterparts to vampires (cold/dead vs warm/alive) but maybe they would have benefited from being developed in a separate book.
All of the other Cullens.
Induction of the Skinwalker wolf.
The imposition of the Volturi and the fear of them by other vampires (they didn’t use it enough but just imagine the Volturi if they’d been set up as the non sparkly, non brooding vampire archetype. They’d be terrifying)
Edit: I’ll admit if they’d trashed the love triangle and just had it be Charlie finding out one of the local celebrities and his family were vampires, while his best friends and his family were werewolves and now he has to learn to navigate this new world. That story would be amazing. And you could still include the Volturi final face off just base it on the law against humans knowing about vampires.
Twilight's vampires aren't undead. Yes, their hearts don't beat, but they never actually die (or even anything resembling it) when they turn. They go from a living human to a living vampire. Bella actually asks about that in one of the books, and it's confirmed to her that you do NOT need to be close to death to turn. Indeed, the fact that she was *technically* dead when she began turning made it seem like a fool's errand that Edward even kept pumping her full of venom and performing CPR. Same happened with Emmett turned -- Rosalie had to rush him to Carlisle (because she couldn't trust herself to turn him) because he was dying from a bear mauling and there would be no hope for him if they started too late. You MUST be alive to become a vampire.
Best thing about thid series, came from the movies: Charlie, because Billy Burke is my sarcastic soulmate and the soundtrack. They always managed to get some really good artists on there. I remember my mom and I read them and when the movie was coming out, we convinced my dad to go see it with us. We may have called it a "watered down" Underworld. He didnt hate it, but he was questioning where the werewolves were. It was kind of funny.
So good. Your reviews are the best I've ever seen or heard or read! Thanks!
I'm rewatching all her videos
One good thing about Twilight is it got you into that corset.
When Twilight hit its peak of popularity, right after the first movie, I started my first Vampire the Masquerade game, I was genuinely surprised by how many girls had started coming to my gaming sessions, it wasn't long until the idea of playing RPGs was kinda normalized with in my high school among the.
In short as much as I hate Twilight, with out it I wouldn't have been able to introduce not nearly as people to possibly the best Horror RPG ever created, let alone role playing games in general as I did.
honestly them being super hot is really smart. The whole thing about them being evolved to draw in humans with their smell and hotness and whatever is a good explanation of the whole "vampires are sexy" business that would actually make sense. They've gotta attract their prey. Good on you twilight
Twilight was my introduction to Vampires so without reading the trash I would never would have food the good stuff
Can I just call out the use of Muse as the background music. A+ material.
dracula from iced earth playing at the background was the best of the video
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Oh, my god! I love that you used a Barbie song in this video! I was definitely not expecting that!
Interesting fact about Forks, there's also a survivalism series that is set there. Weird right?
I tried reading these books when I was deployed in Iraq with literally nothing else to do. I... gave the entire set away after reading the first half of the first novel.
Chris No Thank you for your service.
I don't care if her vampires are creative, I still hate them.
Creative doesn't necessarily mean good. Saying that Twilight's vampires are creative is like saying that Buffalo Bill's lifestyle choices were creative.
@@theoneandonlymichaelmccormick
It puts the Twilight book in the fire pit or else it gets the hose again.
Scream Queen Here, If There's 1 thing about this town I never could stand all the damn vampires-----See what I did there....I used Something Creative 2 back up why Vampires kick ass; when all you did was sound like a 5 year old...(And I have a 6 year old, who understands vampires better then you!) With nothing 2 back your stupid comment "I don't care if Vampires R creative, I still hate them." Yeah there's a REAL argument there😝Well you know what I hate? All you dumb ass people who make stupid comments like that....and I keep having 2....Hey! Did ya hear I know Jay and Silent Bob? And with All The $ I've been making as The Scream Queen I can buy a lotta plane tickets...Say how many people wanna kick some ass!😄😎
Cant Orlok Twilight may have destroyed vampires, but Guillermo Del Toro’s The Strain brought them back.👍
I'm one of the few vampire fans who enjoyed Twilight it seems!! Then again, I am a wee baby who was in grade five or six when it came out, but even then I didn't get all the screaming about it that my friends did. It was actually the first novel I sat down and read to completion, up until then I was Gaston-ing it and tossing aside anything that didn't have pictures. It sparked my love of reading which is probably one of the reasons I still hold it so dear to my heart. Though that doesn't mean I adore it unconditionally. Oh no. I hate, hate, HATE Bella and Edward. Their relationship is shallow, Bella is manipulative and downright insane at sometimes which would have been good except she's the one we're meant to relate to. I'm sorry but no matter how much I love someone, I'm not going down the route of self harm for them. Bella in the book is marginally better and their relationship is a smidge more developed than in the movie but it's just so slight it's not worth looking at.
In my mind, the best way to improve Twilight is to take the focus off of bland Wonder Bread Bella and Edward and shift it to character that actually have well designed backstories and interesting personalities. I think if say Jasper and Alice were the focus of the entire series, it would have been so much better. The biggest drawback for Twilight is that the main leads aren't INTERESTING. (And Edward is an emotionally manipulative stalker) I would have loved to see the romance and struggles of a woman who was locked up in a 1920's asylum who fell for the solider with a violent past, and the mutual support they would give each other as well as overcoming their past demons. But no. We get a love triangle that's built on lies on one side and feelings of inadequacy on the other. Ugh.
Actually, the Vampire Kisses series was started in 2003, about three years before Twilight. Though, the storyline is pretty similar, from what I can remember about the books.
I can't bring myself to dismiss this franchise, despite the ire it so often gets. Its dedicated entirely to the romance\goth ambiance elements of vampire mythology, but I'll go so far as to say that it handles those elements well, if you account for the demands of a teenage audience and genre fiction. In a paradoxical way, its feminist because women like it of their own accord. Society doesn't want them to like it, but they take the liberty to enjoy it anyway. Freedom is finding pleasure in the unsanctioned. That said, Breaking Dawn is terrible. They replaced everything sexy with an ad for traditional marriage, and then dragged that bad idea across 4 hours. If Dracula awoke to find that teenage girls were turned on by puritanism, he'd go back to sleep.
You said it feminist. How is that? Can you enlighten me? I have heard that the female vampires can't get pregnant but the male vampires can make a female human pregnant. How is this feminist. I think it is more sexist. Even though some said the males still have left over semen from when he was a human so he can make a female human pregnant, but why can't the female vampires pregnant. It is a very poor excuse to say that the hardness of vampires bodies make it impossible for the female to bear a child, but there is no rule said vampires can't do other humanly such as their bodies are too stiff so they are not bendy or the impossible speed and agility.
agreed. i think a lot more premarital sex would have made this series better but what can you expect from a mormon
I can respect that.
Hang on @discrete loner . Let's take the point you bring up. What does the fact that female vampires are sterile but male vampires aren't have anything to do with feminism? This is just the fabricated biology of the universe. No one is telling the female vampires not to have babies. They couldn't even if they wanted to. It's certainly a really odd piece of fantasy biology and doesn't make much sense but it's not sexist! It's like saying women can't run as fast as men so that's sexist. It's not.
That's just it, the writer actively chose not to give the female vampires the ability to have kids, even though she retconned it so that males could, could possibly hint at some form sexism.
I swear the beginning of your video was priceless thank you 😁😁
You gotta love her expression at 7:42...
Actually the whole plot of Breaking Dawn is: Whew! Dodged that bullet!
It was an invaluable source of memes and lolz. For that it will always be appreciated.
i think if she wrote maybe small and more adult (doesn't have to be full adult cant mess with the market you got) of the Cullen's back stories in more detail or a book of how the vampires got the government type system they have. i think that could be neat.
Couldn't finish the video but you get a mercy like for going through this.
I know I'm late for the party, and I could bring this up partially thanks to the perspective of time, but one of the most wonderful things, if not the best, to come out of Twilight is the coming together of teen girls and 40 y.o. moms that told the wold to shut up, we like what we like. Teen girls and romance fans are so often ridiculed and snubbed that it was so nice to see them giving the world the finger and enjoying the thing they love out in the open, under the blinding light of the popular culture. It was shiny. 😉
didn't Stephanie Meyer also say that Wendigos were a big inspiration for her take on vampires? That's a pretty creative connection, I gotta admit
I don't know if it's because I was still thinking about the 50 Shades thing or what, but at 13:56 I definitely had to take a second because 'hooligans and whores' seemed a little bit harsh...even for the Twilight fans. 'Hooligans and HORRORS', oh, okay, *phew*....
When she says the word explode I think I exploded a little
i saw twilight get the popularity it got at the time, and i didn't read the books, and at the time, i didnt knew what twilight was about, i was to busy being a pre teen obsessed with Playstation 3 rather than reading a 1000 page book
Not a fan of Twilight, but I did like The Host which was by the same author
"Deadliest warrior vampire edition... they will win" - Far away in ingland Alucard would be like: hold my wine glass... I should take care of this swiftly.
The Twilight pentalogy (IOW, 5-book/film series) is also "despised by" (a great number of) Potterheads. Granted, a vast number of Pot(ter)heads seems to be female shippers (as in, females who ship), but not all of us are.
I still have to go with the Nosferatu Primogen Daedalus. If you want creative, Daedalus is a philosopher, probable was a Toreador ghoul before being turned since he likes to paint, a skilled alchemist, lived for 3000 years, tamed his Beast, defended San Fransisco from a Methuselah, and setup his adopted son to be the new Prince. Daedalus has some mad skills.
Werewolves has it just as bad. Uninteresting, under developed, what homework was done got burned, and now on the same list as Herbert the Pervert. Yes told topic is old, still backtracking because of the Blip shutdown.
Did you hear TNT is doing a TV series based on Let the Right One In?
Alas: deadline.com/2017/04/tnt-let-the-right-one-in-pilot-dead-shopped-1202069970/
But it might still happen elsewhere!
And when Buffy comes 2 help me....She knocks Faith off The roof (Graduation Day) where Faith says....You did it, you killed me...Still won't help her boy though, And if there's 1 thing about this town I never could stand all the damn vampires.
Can you do top 4 good things about Vampire Academy!
11:50 The teenager part was funny
Oh No! Oh wait, never mind...............Yep, that pretty much sums it up.
Random thoughts I'm just gonna dump here:
1.) The speaking voice you use for your Vampire reviews reminds me a lot of Kate Monster from "Avenue Q," and I love that
2.) You just HAD to remind me that you live (or at least used to live) in NYC. I have a deep-seated vicious envy for people who live anywhere with a subway. Don't ask.
3.) I am no fan of "Twilight," but sans the sparkling I like Meyer's descriptions of her vampires (sans Edward), and I love the idea of one's mental strengths in live becoming supernatural powers in death. Someone online also pointed out that the vampires each become fixated on things related to their deaths. (For instance, Rosalie was murdered right before her wedding, and is obsessed with marriage and babies.) I think that's a cool concept.
4.) I read "Twilight" immediately after reading "Eldest," and compared to that series, I can name a billion and one ways in which "Twilight" is "good." It's sad but true.
5.) And one of those things, nay THE biggest difference between Meyer and Paolini, and the one thing I really respect about Stephanie Meyer, is what you pointed out: she wrote what she wanted to.
It's okay to like this series as long as you don't say it's the best thing ever written and better than every other book ever.
Lestat was pearly / sparkly as I read it... but i guess it is open to interpretation “My vampire nature reveals itself in extremely white and highly reflective skin that has to be powdered down for cameras of any kind.” ~ Lestat
20:35 Ahahaha Goddamn Alice stop being adorable! The Maven is trying to make her point!
No joking, I genuinelly felt disturbed by the "Edward is my life" picture at 10:12
my daughter was 13 and into twilight. I read the books and saw the movies with her, except the breaking dawn movies as she thought that would be weird. i enjoyed most of the movies and books because it was a different take on vampires. i loved vampire the masquerade game and books, and my favorite vampires were from Chelsea yarbro quinn's saint germain series. all were their own takes on vampires. ok, new moon book and movies annoyed me but otherwise i did enjoy them and wore a team alice t-shirt til it wore out. the maven did a good job reviewing the series.
lol it's chelea quinn yarbo but youtube not letting me edit for some reason
"I Belong to You" is a great song! ... That was edited to take out the attempt at french in the first film's soundtrack. Muse deserved a better movie.
Yes, I went through a Twilight phase, but now the only thing I really like about it is the wolves...and Alice and Jasper. Honestly, if there was a movie made that just focused on those two, I would absolutely watch it. They just seemed so wholesome and cute! But, with the sparkling thing...okay, I can admit it was a creative turn. But, what I don't like about it is something I heard in another review. The fact that their skin doesn't burn takes away that weakness they had. Now they just seem overpowered, like if one wants to kill you, there's literally nothing you can do about it. Though I guess they are extremely flammable?(As we saw when Victoria died) So, does that make up for it? I don't know, I just thought it was kind of weird.
On another note, I really liked the video. I've watched a couple of them now, and congratulations! You now have a new subscriber!
They used actual natives for the supporting cast
Here one, it gave a lot of people on those movies jobs. Oh the jokes the amazing JOKES.
I wasn't a fan of the movies or books but I read the first book of the comic and it was actually better.
As far as I could tell in the first book, Bella was a lot more active and less blank slate, Jacob doesn't actually seem to have any sort of crush on Bella. Edward seems a bit less creepy.
Did anyone read all the comics? I would be interested if anyone who read them would tell us if they were actually better than the books.
I think D&D has the best vampires, for obvious reasons of taking the most popular tropes, not doing anything to be different and them being essentially predatory corpses.
11:36 I still am that type and will always be.
Perfect ad placement.
I disagree with the sparkling assessment, creative or not it doesn't fit what's more or less the definition of a vampire. Also sparkling doesn't seem like that much of a problem, couldn't they just put on some make-up and be good to go (Or become juggalos?).
And I'm having a hard time imagining any vampires overpowered enough to take out the Hellsing version.
Or the vampires of Vampire Hunter D who can punch holes in mountains...
There are plenty of vampires in fiction more powerful than Twilight vamps.
off the top of my head vampires who would totally make twilight vampires their bitch include Ib and Vehron the destroyer from tome of bill. Black court vampires, and red court vampires who were descended from Mayan blood gods in Dresden files. Any master or ancient level vampire from the monster hunters international series. Higher vampires from the witcher series. Janos Audron, Vorador, and Kain from the legacy of Kain franchise. Alucard from Helsing Ancient vampires from Stephan kings salems lot, and the gunslinger series. Lilith and Warlow from true blood.
and of course almost any interpretation of Dracula done through out the years.
Your reviews are fantastic!
i have my doubts that edward could beat alucard from hellsing although in death battle he might come close
Scream Queen Here, Hey Guys These Rn't twilight; cause Vampires don't sparkle!😲 But ya did say you'd tell everyone about my new Vampire movies! 1s a Lost Boys Sequal, that you can REALLY sink your teeth into, where me and Faith R from Santa Carla, and after Vampires split The Chosen 2 up(Buffy's on R suu
while I would credit the twilight vamps for certainly being top tear in regards to power, the vampires of the elder scrolls and hellsing would destroy them and easily
14:56. Almost six years later, the director of the remake, Matt Reeves, is now coming off of making, what many people consider, one of the greatest movie trilogies in recent history with the Planet of the Apes remakes. So, I guess we can thank Twilight in some way?