I support hard rattan nerf, and small berserker buff. Def feel that wuwei could have been hit harder with nerfs. Rattans have been strong for soooooo long same with wuwei, it’s time for them to move out of meta. Buffing berserkers minimally I think is a good choice to ensure it doesn’t became unfair to play against.
"Berzerkers are bad, and you should definitely never throw them on the frontline without support." Immediately throws them into the whole enemy team coming up siege stairs and complains about them being bad. "Rattan nerf was way too much, they can't even do damage now". All while your only targets are 3 units of tower shields coming down the stairs. Come on now.
Throw them into blue units and got annihilated in 1 sec. And its not first game with them neither that happens. Rattan dmg its 0 without poison. And thats what i tried to show.
@@thanhphongpham7482 Siege 8% dmg bonus lvl 4 tier health dmg blu doc vs units and heroes and 1 more. Not bad docs. But they still a meme unit.They can't 1v1 purple units. Or at least top tier purple units. And that's a big joke.
@@DuckyNobu Nope go full health and def that I will go. Second, many t5 units could not fight top-tier purple units at all. You know China unit OP right. I don't have to explain to you about the OP of them.
For the ratten marksman. It feels like they reduce the poison bolts chances by 40% from base instead of 20%. Basically the ratten marksman is performing worse before they got the mastery
Hey man, just want too say great video, you have made me want too give this game another shot after 2 years. hopefully with your video guides ill make better unit choices and start my new character the correct way. keep it up bud!
Rattant are blue units its normal for them not to do great against purple and gold unit even worse againt shield like it the video. Overall they still seems ok just more balanced for their tier. About beserker they should be pretty stronger with their buffs but they are just still really tricky to use for the kind of units they are. They are not brain dead units like wuwei.
@@YoY999 true like every other units but you don't have to think much using them as long as you are not caught out of position and can spam their skill they destroy almost everything.
Long time players understand the minimal berserker buff. We don’t want a repeat of the Helheim season when zerkers could run through any other t4 or under unit without hero support. Rattan nerf is pretty justified considering their leadership to combat power efficiency; even more so if u have leadership doctrine on them. Wuwei nerf was inevitable considering their chokehold on the infantry meta. That said, they still run through MAA and their knock back is still brutal. Combined with their mobility, they are still very much viable.
Just like you guys,i didn't know how siege works(game system).If you solo queue,you have a high change of finding bots,few of them.If you queue with group,almost always you will have only players,rarely you will find bots.
And now,going back to Berserkers.They are definitely good now,solid A tier...but in gold era they can only be good in siege or normal games,maybe rank...maybe....because they cant do anything against any gold unit.Against purple units,they smack pretty much everything...They win vs Myrmilones,palace guards,imp pikes...even wuwei,but you need to use them vertically and wait for wuwei to charge,because they 1 shot berserkers :)) P.S They will shine in purple era
Im not sure about that. I struggle vs myrms advance.They wipe you. Maa still do good dmg. Palace guards defence it's solid and imp pikes do too much dmg on advance. They can be good in blob fights well..yeah like always. But im not sure if 1v1 they do anything.
Rattans needed to be nerfed into the ground. Went through everything ticking for 2.5k dmg and slowing... and for 175 LS still... get rid. Other changes apart from guns didnt make a lot of sense.
Rattan marksmen were cancerous unit. They r cancerous not becoz of poison damage imo. IT WAS DUE TO STUPIDLY SLOW effect it applies on heroes. All heroes within its range suffered from 90% slowness , That's how it feels when you get poison stack from them and You must use dodge ,dash skill to run away. This needs serious nerfing still. why do marksmen give slow effect while rattan archers don't ? that's also stupid , give both same slow effect. Making a machinegun have extra buffs and archer with no buffs ?
how about you make a video testing berserkers and rattan vs different units in test battle tbh you used berserkers and rattan very poorly in the battle
Lionroar crew went from Sit and Stare to Rip and Tear
I support hard rattan nerf, and small berserker buff. Def feel that wuwei could have been hit harder with nerfs. Rattans have been strong for soooooo long same with wuwei, it’s time for them to move out of meta. Buffing berserkers minimally I think is a good choice to ensure it doesn’t became unfair to play against.
"Berzerkers are bad, and you should definitely never throw them on the frontline without support." Immediately throws them into the whole enemy team coming up siege stairs and complains about them being bad.
"Rattan nerf was way too much, they can't even do damage now". All while your only targets are 3 units of tower shields coming down the stairs.
Come on now.
Throw them into blue units and got annihilated in 1 sec. And its not first game with them neither that happens. Rattan dmg its 0 without poison. And thats what i tried to show.
@@DuckyNobu Show me your doctrine on Berzerkes.
@@thanhphongpham7482 Siege 8% dmg bonus lvl 4 tier health dmg blu doc vs units and heroes and 1 more. Not bad docs. But they still a meme unit.They can't 1v1 purple units. Or at least top tier purple units. And that's a big joke.
@@DuckyNobu Nope go full health and def that I will go. Second, many t5 units could not fight top-tier purple units at all. You know China unit OP right. I don't have to explain to you about the OP of them.
For the ratten marksman. It feels like they reduce the poison bolts chances by 40% from base instead of 20%. Basically the ratten marksman is performing worse before they got the mastery
Hey man, just want too say great video, you have made me want too give this game another shot after 2 years. hopefully with your video guides ill make better unit choices and start my new character the correct way. keep it up bud!
The rattan marksmen needed to get nerfed really badly or get turned into a purple unit. Their value was too good.
Lol a purple rattan could you imagine....... as I say that I think about that gold rattan that is prob the worst gold unit in the game currently >
would you still recommend Wuwei being the first seasonal unit you go for after the nerf?
Yeah they still good. Best purple infantry still. But the greek season it's very good too. Good cav and phalanx t5 are the best.
@@DuckyNobu yeah, getting feathered cross bows and twuwei, then headed into greek.
Rattant are blue units its normal for them not to do great against purple and gold unit even worse againt shield like it the video. Overall they still seems ok just more balanced for their tier. About beserker they should be pretty stronger with their buffs but they are just still really tricky to use for the kind of units they are. They are not brain dead units like wuwei.
You do realise that if you charge wuwei's like an idiot,they end up dead not killing anything...right?
@@YoY999 lmao ok bud
@@YoY999 true like every other units but you don't have to think much using them as long as you are not caught out of position and can spam their skill they destroy almost everything.
Long time players understand the minimal berserker buff. We don’t want a repeat of the Helheim season when zerkers could run through any other t4 or under unit without hero support. Rattan nerf is pretty justified considering their leadership to combat power efficiency; even more so if u have leadership doctrine on them. Wuwei nerf was inevitable considering their chokehold on the infantry meta. That said, they still run through MAA and their knock back is still brutal. Combined with their mobility, they are still very much viable.
t4 and under? they were running through t5s
RM is still solid for a blue
nothing needs to be said about WW
I agree with the berserkers being trash, the rattans are still good if you don't shoot the shields and use the 1 ability more often.
Just like you guys,i didn't know how siege works(game system).If you solo queue,you have a high change of finding bots,few of them.If you queue with group,almost always you will have only players,rarely you will find bots.
I queue solo all the time. So rarily i get bots.
@@DuckyNobu Maybe if you queue later on in the day,but do that in the morning when the game doesnt have many players on :))
@@YoY999 That makes sense.
what is a good alternative for rattan?
Probably another ranged unit. From dragonrise season. They still good.
i need help pls which better companion cavalry or kriegsbruers
companion cav
And now,going back to Berserkers.They are definitely good now,solid A tier...but in gold era they can only be good in siege or normal games,maybe rank...maybe....because they cant do anything against any gold unit.Against purple units,they smack pretty much everything...They win vs Myrmilones,palace guards,imp pikes...even wuwei,but you need to use them vertically and wait for wuwei to charge,because they 1 shot berserkers :)) P.S They will shine in purple era
Im not sure about that. I struggle vs myrms advance.They wipe you. Maa still do good dmg. Palace guards defence it's solid and imp pikes do too much dmg on advance.
They can be good in blob fights well..yeah like always. But im not sure if 1v1 they do anything.
You don't toss zerkers in like that. They're really good, but not used to open fights. They finish them.
For some reason I notice that map always has bots.....
Rattans needed to be nerfed into the ground. Went through everything ticking for 2.5k dmg and slowing... and for 175 LS still... get rid. Other changes apart from guns didnt make a lot of sense.
I biuld an entire unit and all nerfs pour in...
hi nice this is me tuna u hit hard man
its the best nerf fucking rattan was to op
its a fucking blue unit and make more dps as any gold unit so idk best nerf for it
Rattan marksmen were cancerous unit. They r cancerous not becoz of poison damage imo. IT WAS DUE TO STUPIDLY SLOW effect it applies on heroes. All heroes within its range suffered from 90% slowness , That's how it feels when you get poison stack from them and You must use dodge ,dash skill to run away. This needs serious nerfing still.
why do marksmen give slow effect while rattan archers don't ? that's also stupid , give both same slow effect. Making a machinegun have extra buffs and archer with no buffs ?
You are assasin, and dont feel the nightmare rattan gave pre-nerf to frontline 😅😅
how about you make a video testing berserkers and rattan vs different units in test battle tbh you used berserkers and rattan very poorly in the battle
They should just add more masteries
Полное уничтожение и без того слабых стрелков и ничего не значащий баф Берсерков который ничего не решает.
man siege is full of bots now holyfck
hahahahah i run fast
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