Yes I offer power ranking for my customers well as detaching and like you said depending on the area of the size of the yard you have to price it accordingly because so much working out to do. Thank you for the information it was very informative 👍👍👍 I live in Virginia Beach Virginia this time of year I'm putting down a lot of rye grass because the clients want their seasonal grass to make they probably look good for Christmas
No problem. I also hate watching videos with ads in the middle. It ruins the experience. So I didn’t want to do that to my audience. They recently made it automatic to place ads throughout for videos over 8 minutes but I turned that feature off. Thanks for watching.
Im in Ottawa Canada...i fertilize regularly & in the later fall i cut grass short, dethatch it then seed in 1st week of Nov. When snow comes its weight pushes dormant seed to contact level...Then in spring it melts providing water to begin germination, once the ground is no longer soft i fertilize it with Scotts Max green.
Awesome video! We offer dethatching, I think it’s the main difference between us and the main weed n feed guys. It’s so good for any lawn, clear the shit out. We do our main chemical kill in august, either in the mornings or later august for temps. Then come back 4 weeks later and do the dethatch, aerate, seed, fert/nutrients, topdress. I feel like we don’t make a great profit off of dethatching just because we price it like aeration, but it really does take more time and effort. I’ll try raising prices. Thanks for the knowledge
For sure try to raise your price. Out here Midwest area $60 and up to aerate 5k sft property. I will be doing detaching this year as my first time and I’m thinking $125-$150 would be a good starting point to detach and clean up. Power rake like he mentions going in deeper of course the price will change. There is more work to be done and it will take longer,. Best of luck
What sort of moss control services will you be offering in 2023? I am just starting up my first year this season and my Brett Young rep told me they will no longer be able to sell ferrous sulphate. Thanks!
Still will be using ferrous sulphate in the form of a 9-3-6 fertilizer with 13.5% ferrous sulphate. It’s what I’ve always used. It’s available at my supplier. Thanks for watching.
I've used a gas-powered thatcher followed up with a gas-powered aerator to remove moss in the PNW. I then threw down starter fertilizer, seed and covered with a light top dressing of compost and raked it all in. Took days and lasted about 2 yrs...and the moss was back. I have too much shade and way too much rain (months of it) for a healthy lawn, so I'm just trying to upkeep it until I sell and move somewhere that has more appealing weather.🤣
Yup sounds about right. Here in the PNW moss is always a challenge. I always tell my clients “you know what they say about the only things guaranteed in life are death and taxes. Well here in the PNW it’s death, taxes and the moss will come back.” 😂 Thanks for watching.
Yes there are and I put it down for clients every spring. It helps but we just get way too much rain here for it to be fully effective for any length of time. Moss grows everywhere here. I’ve even find it growing on my trailer and truck during the wet season. Thanks for watching.
Hello I’m starting on lawn care, I use a hand held rake (grounds keeper) even though is hard work does not damage the lawn do you have any option to this that is less work? 😬
😀I am new in the lawn care business and I'm trying to figure out how much to charge for the size of lawns. Would a mower detacher be better for a beginners? Can you please inform me the best way to start my business. thank you AL
This year I got 3 calls for it. I did 3 estimates and got one the machine cost me $75.00 a day. Then I saw one for sale for $300 I almost bought it. But I passed I had to clean my garage out almost done just a few more things to toss in the garbage. Maybe this fall I’ll buy one 2 customers said I was too expensive. 🤔
$300 is a good price for one if it’s in good condition. I use to do a ton of them at cheaper prices each year. Wore myself out. It’s a lot of work. Now I always price them high. I don’t get near as many but make around the same amount over all doing way less jobs and don’t wear myself out. Thanks for watching.
Do you give consultation? I’ve started a thatch and aerating business this coming spring. I really need some examples or pricing spreadsheets to charge my customer
Great video. I have a question. I have an algae layer on my bermuda lawn due to large amount of rain we have been receiving. Its summer time now. Would you recommend using the dethatcher during the summer time to remove the algae? Thanks
Sorry I’m not familiar with Bermuda lawns and the ideal times to power rake them. Usually power raking is not done in the summer months as it can be to stressful for the lawn or new seed to recover or grow. Thanks for watching.
Hmm, ...not so sure about that ... tynes are for the scarifying, which can prepare the lawn for overseeding by leaving the slits in the ground. Or aerating, as it certainly does open up the lawn to a lower level. Completely different attachment than what the power rake uses. Power raking doesn't have tynes, it uses the wire/springs to take a layer of lawn debris off the surface, not the thatch. The thatch is below the grass. There is no way to remove the thatch easily without damaging the grass since the thatch is below the level of the grass. As for dethatching, the name for dethatching is a bit of a misnomer. True dethatching can really only be done using a chemical process... unless you use scarifier and rip up a lot or most of your grass.
A quick Google search brings up this explanation. Lawns need lime when low soil pH starts inhibiting the availability of nutrients. Soil pH preferences vary between regional lawn grasses, but most grasses prefer soil pH between 5.8 and 7.2. Warm-season grasses tolerate slightly lower pH, while cool-season grasses prefer pH slightly higher.1,2 When within preferred pH ranges, the nutrients lawn grasses need most - including added nitrogen from lawn fertilizers - stay available for grass to use. When pH strays too far in either direction, even plentiful nutrients are restricted. Lime restores balance in overly acidic soil to bring pH back to optimal growing levels. Furthermore here in the pacific north west where I am the constant rain always effects the soils ph level so we add lime to every lawn every year. Thanks for watching.
If I’m going to dethatch, then scarify, then aerate before I bring in sand to level and overseed! Is it best to give the lawn a good deep watering a few days in advance so the lawn/soil is damp when I do it or is it best for it to be dryer? I’ve heard some people say you don’t want the lawn/soil to be damp when you dethatch but you do want it to be damp for when you both scarify and aerate! Your opinion on that? Thanks in advance
I prefer it to be dry for using the power rake, otherwise it just makes a huge mess and is hard to clean up as the debris is mixed with mud basically. The aerating is best when damp but I’ve never had an issue unless it’s like the middle of a dry summer. The rest of the year it seems to core fine. Thanks for watching.
I live in northeast New England in the states. Dethatching in spring or fall would be best? Want to do some reseeding and topdressing. But want to make sure I give a good recovery time. So not sure about spring or fall season.
That’s the nice thing about owning a used machine. Not much money invested and under no pressure to sell low cost jobs. I just price them for maximum profit. Don’t do as many as I use to but actually make way more money doing them now on the ones I do. Thanks for watching.
Lawn Care Business Success fortunate for I my buddy owned the power raking unit so whenever I needed it he’d let me use it & vise versa with a equipment that I may have that he needs.
No. You would ultimately need to prep soil more by removing the existing lawn completely first and putting some new soil down then sod. That’s what I would do for sod. Thanks for watching.
NOT a lawn business question. I may be wrong but I do not think I have a 'thatch" problem, but I DO have several dead areas in the lawn. Would you recommend using a dethatcher to open the bare areas for planting grass?
Sure if you have enough areas to justify the rental, otherwise I would just manually rake the spots. Then I would aerate, overseed, put down a starter fertilizer and top dress for best results. Thanks for watching.
Your terms are backwards. A Power Rake is just that, a POWERED RAKE. Just like a hand rake removes dead grass off the top, so does a power rake. It ONLY removes dead grass and does NOT touch the thatch layer which is the top portion of the actual soil where shallow root-balls, and partially broken down grass sits. If you’re removing this actual thatch layer, it’s known as DETHATCHING because that’s what you’re doing. You are “SCARIFYING” the thatch layer, deep down into the soil. Remember, dead grass that is visible to the eye down between the grass blades is NOT thatch. You measure your thatch thickness by taking a soil sample plug, which is located in the upper part of the soil.
yeah, scarify is just a fancy word for cut that includes the result of the cutting. rake unfortunately can also include scratching and scraping, so the words are interchangeable and products like thatching rakes only further muddy the waters. dethatching is a general term that shouldn't really be defined when contrasting scarifying/raking.
Hi Ethan, I just launched my Lawn Care Business Success Academy last week actually. It’s where you can find my downloadable documents, online courses and one on one calls. I launched with my first “How to price lawns profitably” course, and will be adding more courses as time goes on. You can find it at my website www.lawncarebusinesssuccess.com/academy Thanks for watching.
@@LawnCareBusinessSuccess Wow what are the odds you just launched last week? I will invest once you have more content uploaded there. I respect the idea of a one-on-one call. I am sure one hour of your time is worth a year's worth of mistakes and successes. Please keep me posted. Thank you
Yes seeding after thatching is a good idea. When I do it I actually aerate after I thatch and then seed, fertilize, lime and optionally top dress for best results. Thanks for watching
I bought it at a local tool rental place about 14 years ago that was selling off ex-rental units for $300. It needed new wheels when I got it. I bought the new wheels and used the machine for a few years as is with minimal maintenance and belts. I bought all new tines for it 2 years ago. After I bought it I wanted to find an aerator as well. So I started going to other tool rental places and just asking if they had any old rental units for sale. Since it was the fall season at the time and aerations are not as popular here in the fall they were willing to sell me a nice used aerator that needed nothing for $1000. I’ve been using that machine as well ever since. Thanks for watching.
I service typically 1/4 acre or less sized properties, and it all depends on how thick the moss in my case is and how many passes to get it out would take. Also when I’m doing the complete package it consists of putting a moss control down first and waiting at least a week. Then I mow it extra short and start doing the power rake and cleanup along with an aeration and hauling debris to the dump. Then I return to put down the seed, lime, starter fertilizer and top dress with soil. For an average city lot anywhere from $1500 to $2000 for the entire job start to finish. Thanks for watching.
You gotta do what you gotta do. Try to put some money aside from each job and pick up a used one when you can. In the meantime just rent and make that money. Thanks for watching.
@@LawnCareBusinessSuccess first thing id like to do is back myself back for my trailer and side items...and pay off my walkbehind. then i'll branch into other lawn equipment once my customer base comes up and I have more reviews. Doing this as side job till Im sure It can overtake my main job yearly
It depends on what you charge for aeration, but I would say that’s probably a good place to start and then you can see from there. Remember to keep in mind if you are renting a machine and dump fees plus travel time to dump. Alternatively you can also charge the dump fee and disposal as a separate service. Thanks for watching.
I’m not sure. My guess is, I would say yes. I don’t use pre emergent products so I’m not quite familiar with them. If the pre-m you use is a slow release type pellet and you can still see it then yes it will get disturbed and you may end up raking it up in the debris. But if it’s already dissolved or like a liquid application then no, and I would guess it would be fine. Thanks for watching.
Do you have local competitors who are unofficially using products no longer available or permitted for home use in Canada? If so is hard to match some one who will use a very low cost pre emergent like prodiamine and then when crabgrass and other annuals are reduced 85% or more and the owner has never seen any thing like it, he becomes the best word of mouth advertising. Does this go on? I have no clue but I wonder if they all have some 2-4,D available if they sense its profitable enough. Similar to 15 years ago the cable guy would hook you up with some extra channels not in your package for free if you left him $50 on the table, but didn't officially hand it to him. The cable bribe was So common here in Montreal every apartment I moved into would already have those premium channels set up and running because they were never on the package of the previous customer to be closed when they moved..very common. Gotta wonder. Golf courses can use products you Must know Fiesta doesn't do much more than green up the lawn with iron.
I haven’t used herbicides in my business in over 12 years. Most people know the products are banned here. When I chat with clients about their lawns most express no interest in having chemical weed killers used on there lawns because of pets of kids. The biggest issue here on the west coast is moss. It grows very quickly with all the rain we get. Putting iron on the lawn kills the moss. Literally turns it black within a few hours. Makes it safe to power rake out of the lawn without worry of spreading through air born spores from the agitation created when power raking. Thanks for watching.
For dethatching you just want the tines to lightly touch the surface. So put the machine on a hard surface like a sidewalk or driveway. With the machine off, turn the times by hand until they are hanging at there lowest point. From there use the height adjustment knob to raise or lower the times until they just touch the surface of the pavement. That will give you a good starting point. From there you can start dethatching and use the adjustment knob to micro adjust the height as needed. Thanks for watching.
Lots of factors to consider. First off you need to know your numbers. How much do you need to make each hour to fulfill your obligations, turn a profit and put money aside. What costs are associated with the job? Travel, fuel, dumping fees etc. thatching is a lot of work so I charge accordingly. Thanks for watching.
Lots on my area advertise detaching and simply have a fixed non movable rake on the front of a mower and do a glorified mow job. Can’t compete with their prices obviously. No one don’t want to pay the higher price. How much do you charge for 1/4 acre of grass?
@@LawnCareBusinessSuccess where do you find the replacement belts are they common, thankns for replying i just got a blue bird older model and the belt looks worn
I just get belts from a local equipment dealer. Took the old one in and they matched the size. In the past I also got them from a local tractor supply type store. Good luck with it.
Lawn Care Business Success thanks, just subscribed I live in Alberta about 30 mins south of Calgary we have had a good spring season and am looking forward this year I am part time (side hustle) thanks for your advice
No problem. Thanks for subscribing. Oh your Canadian. That tractor supply type store I was talking about getting belts from sometimes is Princess Auto. I believe they have location around Alberta near Calgary.
Wrong, scarifying digs into the soil to let oxygen and water in, dethatching and power raking pull out the thatch to expose the soil between the blades of grass
Not happy with the first landscapers that did my lawn and we are new to Tennessee. I am afraid that I might have to start over with seeding I am seeing patch spots. Of dirt
Oh ok. I was not expecting a home owner to be watching my videos. I guess I forgot that it’s not just other lawn Care business owners that can watch my videos on TH-cam. 😂 Best of luck finding a company that better suits your needs.
@@LawnCareBusinessSuccess cry baby doesnt' like free electricity and wants to pay for electricity because someone disagrees with him on youtube. yeah lawns covered in moss and thatch are fine. that's the way god made them. oh but you know better than god right?
Leave a comment down below and let me know if you offer power raking, dethatching or scarifying in your lawn care business.
Yes I offer power ranking for my customers well as detaching and like you said depending on the area of the size of the yard you have to price it accordingly because so much working out to do. Thank you for the information it was very informative 👍👍👍 I live in Virginia Beach Virginia this time of year I'm putting down a lot of rye grass because the clients want their seasonal grass to make they probably look good for Christmas
Thanks for watching.
Great video! Thank you for not having commercials in the middle of your video.
No problem. I also hate watching videos with ads in the middle. It ruins the experience. So I didn’t want to do that to my audience. They recently made it automatic to place ads throughout for videos over 8 minutes but I turned that feature off. Thanks for watching.
This guy is the real mvp!
Thank you really explained the difference of dethatcher and power raking very well. I really appreciate it.
Glad you found value in the video. Thanks for watching.
Im in Ottawa Canada...i fertilize regularly & in the later fall i cut grass short, dethatch it then seed in 1st week of Nov.
When snow comes its weight pushes dormant seed to contact level...Then in spring it melts providing water to begin germination, once the ground is no longer soft i fertilize it with Scotts Max green.
Awesome video! We offer dethatching, I think it’s the main difference between us and the main weed n feed guys. It’s so good for any lawn, clear the shit out. We do our main chemical kill in august, either in the mornings or later august for temps. Then come back 4 weeks later and do the dethatch, aerate, seed, fert/nutrients, topdress. I feel like we don’t make a great profit off of dethatching just because we price it like aeration, but it really does take more time and effort. I’ll try raising prices. Thanks for the knowledge
Glad you found value in the video. Thanks for watching.
For sure try to raise your price. Out here Midwest area $60 and up to aerate 5k sft property. I will be doing detaching this year as my first time and I’m thinking $125-$150 would be a good starting point to detach and clean up. Power rake like he mentions going in deeper of course the price will change. There is more work to be done and it will take longer,. Best of luck
Great video. Hello from Ireland 🇮🇪💪
Welcome from Canada. 😂 Thanks for watching.
Thanks for the video !! I was wondering what the difference was between detaching and scarifying...now I know. Thanks You Much !!
No problem. Thanks for watching. I appreciate it. 👍
What sort of moss control services will you be offering in 2023? I am just starting up my first year this season and my Brett Young rep told me they will no longer be able to sell ferrous sulphate. Thanks!
Still will be using ferrous sulphate in the form of a 9-3-6 fertilizer with 13.5% ferrous sulphate. It’s what I’ve always used. It’s available at my supplier. Thanks for watching.
I offer power raking, I have my first power rake next week and I am a bit nervous😳
Thanks for the tips, they were very helpful
Nothing to be nervous about. You’ll get the hand of it pretty quickly. Thanks for watching.
I've used a gas-powered thatcher followed up with a gas-powered aerator to remove moss in the PNW. I then threw down starter fertilizer, seed and covered with a light top dressing of compost and raked it all in. Took days and lasted about 2 yrs...and the moss was back. I have too much shade and way too much rain (months of it) for a healthy lawn, so I'm just trying to upkeep it until I sell and move somewhere that has more appealing weather.🤣
Yup sounds about right. Here in the PNW moss is always a challenge. I always tell my clients “you know what they say about the only things guaranteed in life are death and taxes. Well here in the PNW it’s death, taxes and the moss will come back.” 😂 Thanks for watching.
There are treatments for the moss
Yes there are and I put it down for clients every spring. It helps but we just get way too much rain here for it to be fully effective for any length of time. Moss grows everywhere here. I’ve even find it growing on my trailer and truck during the wet season. Thanks for watching.
Hello I’m starting on lawn care, I use a hand held rake (grounds keeper) even though is hard work does not damage the lawn do you have any option to this that is less work? 😬
Hire this GUY, he is the BEST that I've ever seen, or heard on TH-cam...
Thanks for watching.
You nailed it. Great job. Learned a lot
No problem. I appreciate the feedback. Thanks for watching.
😀I am new in the lawn care business and I'm trying to figure out how much to charge for the size of lawns. Would a mower detacher be better for a beginners? Can you please inform me the best way to start my business. thank you AL
I would not waste my time with a mower de thatcher. Just use a proper power rake. Thanks for watching
this video was so helpful thanks!
No problem. Thanks for watching.
This year I got 3 calls for it. I did 3 estimates and got one the machine cost me $75.00 a day. Then I saw one for sale for $300 I almost bought it. But I passed I had to clean my garage out almost done just a few more things to toss in the garbage. Maybe this fall I’ll buy one 2 customers said I was too expensive. 🤔
$300 is a good price for one if it’s in good condition. I use to do a ton of them at cheaper prices each year. Wore myself out. It’s a lot of work. Now I always price them high. I don’t get near as many but make around the same amount over all doing way less jobs and don’t wear myself out. Thanks for watching.
@@LawnCareBusinessSuccess $300 for starting point. 1300 is your high. What size lawns?
Great explanation on the terms!
Do you give consultation? I’ve started a thatch and aerating business this coming spring. I really need some examples or pricing spreadsheets to charge my customer
Know your overhead, time your projects. Price accordingly.
Very informative. Great video
I appreciate the feedback. Thanks for watching. 👍
@@LawnCareBusinessSuccess no problem👍subscribed
Thank you very helpful info.
No problem. Thanks for watching.
Great video. I have a question. I have an algae layer on my bermuda lawn due to large amount of rain we have been receiving. Its summer time now. Would you recommend using the dethatcher during the summer time to remove the algae? Thanks
Sorry I’m not familiar with Bermuda lawns and the ideal times to power rake them. Usually power raking is not done in the summer months as it can be to stressful for the lawn or new seed to recover or grow. Thanks for watching.
Hmm, ...not so sure about that
... tynes are for the scarifying, which can prepare the lawn for overseeding by leaving the slits in the ground. Or aerating, as it certainly does open up the lawn to a lower level.
Completely different attachment than what the power rake uses.
Power raking doesn't have tynes, it uses the wire/springs to take a layer of lawn debris off the surface, not the thatch. The thatch is below the grass. There is no way to remove the thatch easily without damaging the grass since the thatch is below the level of the grass.
As for dethatching, the name for dethatching is a bit of a misnomer.
True dethatching can really only be done using a chemical process... unless you use scarifier and rip up a lot or most of your grass.
Yours is very generous advice. Thanks!
I appreciate the feedback. Thanks for watching.
Great video man. One question...What does the lime do?
A quick Google search brings up this explanation. Lawns need lime when low soil pH starts inhibiting the availability of nutrients. Soil pH preferences vary between regional lawn grasses, but most grasses prefer soil pH between 5.8 and 7.2. Warm-season grasses tolerate slightly lower pH, while cool-season grasses prefer pH slightly higher.1,2 When within preferred pH ranges, the nutrients lawn grasses need most - including added nitrogen from lawn fertilizers - stay available for grass to use. When pH strays too far in either direction, even plentiful nutrients are restricted. Lime restores balance in overly acidic soil to bring pH back to optimal growing levels. Furthermore here in the pacific north west where I am the constant rain always effects the soils ph level so we add lime to every lawn every year. Thanks for watching.
How much on average does it cost to power rake and over seed one acre of land.
If I’m going to dethatch, then scarify, then aerate before I bring in sand to level and overseed! Is it best to give the lawn a good deep watering a few days in advance so the lawn/soil is damp when I do it or is it best for it to be dryer? I’ve heard some people say you don’t want the lawn/soil to be damp when you dethatch but you do want it to be damp for when you both scarify and aerate! Your opinion on that? Thanks in advance
I prefer it to be dry for using the power rake, otherwise it just makes a huge mess and is hard to clean up as the debris is mixed with mud basically. The aerating is best when damp but I’ve never had an issue unless it’s like the middle of a dry summer. The rest of the year it seems to core fine. Thanks for watching.
Yup! In the UK it's always been to 'scarify'. Ta for the video.
That’s what I thought. I wanted to make sure the information was easy to find regardless of what you call it. Thanks for watching.
Yep, in the civilezed world, we use 'scarify".
So far it’s Good !!
I live in northeast New England in the states. Dethatching in spring or fall would be best? Want to do some reseeding and topdressing. But want to make sure I give a good recovery time. So not sure about spring or fall season.
I’m not sure with that area. Best to check with other local companies. Thanks for watching.
Excellent 👊
Thanks for watching.
Great video. Question how you counting that type of service?
I like your channel. Thanks. You’re very knowledgeable.
Thanks for the feedback. I appreciate it. Thanks for watching. 👍
I use to do power raking, but now it’s just so hard to sell. We now just do core aeration, topsoil, and over-seeding.
That’s the nice thing about owning a used machine. Not much money invested and under no pressure to sell low cost jobs. I just price them for maximum profit. Don’t do as many as I use to but actually make way more money doing them now on the ones I do. Thanks for watching.
Lawn Care Business Success fortunate for I my buddy owned the power raking unit so whenever I needed it he’d let me use it & vise versa with a equipment that I may have that he needs.
Nice. Good system. 👍
what about removing sand and gravel from my lawn?
Can you put down sod instead of grass seed
No. You would ultimately need to prep soil more by removing the existing lawn completely first and putting some new soil down then sod. That’s what I would do for sod. Thanks for watching.
Great video! Thankyou
Glad you found value in it. Thanks for watching.
After treating, how long does it take to look presentable again? Did mine last week and looks a mess still! Greener a bit but still patchy.
Thanks for this! This really helped!
No problem. Glad you found value in the video. Thanks for watching. 👍
Where did you get the power rake from? I need to invest and im a starter in this process
NOT a lawn business question. I may be wrong but I do not think I have a 'thatch" problem, but I DO have several dead areas in the lawn. Would you recommend using a dethatcher to open the bare areas for planting grass?
Sure if you have enough areas to justify the rental, otherwise I would just manually rake the spots. Then I would aerate, overseed, put down a starter fertilizer and top dress for best results. Thanks for watching.
Your terms are backwards. A Power Rake is just that, a POWERED RAKE. Just like a hand rake removes dead grass off the top, so does a power rake. It ONLY removes dead grass and does NOT touch the thatch layer which is the top portion of the actual soil where shallow root-balls, and partially broken down grass sits. If you’re removing this actual thatch layer, it’s known as DETHATCHING because that’s what you’re doing. You are “SCARIFYING” the thatch layer, deep down into the soil. Remember, dead grass that is visible to the eye down between the grass blades is NOT thatch. You measure your thatch thickness by taking a soil sample plug, which is located in the upper part of the soil.
yeah, scarify is just a fancy word for cut that includes the result of the cutting.
rake unfortunately can also include scratching and scraping, so the words are interchangeable and products like thatching rakes only further muddy the waters.
dethatching is a general term that shouldn't really be defined when contrasting scarifying/raking.
Hi Julio, you are offering podcasts? Do you offer any mentoring or training programs? I will invest if you have any resources to help out! Thank you
Hi Ethan, I just launched my Lawn Care Business Success Academy last week actually. It’s where you can find my downloadable documents, online courses and one on one calls. I launched with my first “How to price lawns profitably” course, and will be adding more courses as time goes on. You can find it at my website www.lawncarebusinesssuccess.com/academy Thanks for watching.
@@LawnCareBusinessSuccess Wow what are the odds you just launched last week? I will invest once you have more content uploaded there. I respect the idea of a one-on-one call. I am sure one hour of your time is worth a year's worth of mistakes and successes. Please keep me posted. Thank you
If you have a Thatcher/Seederwould use that and see it at the same time
Yes seeding after thatching is a good idea. When I do it I actually aerate after I thatch and then seed, fertilize, lime and optionally top dress for best results. Thanks for watching
Where did you get that power rake?
I bought it at a local tool rental place about 14 years ago that was selling off ex-rental units for $300. It needed new wheels when I got it. I bought the new wheels and used the machine for a few years as is with minimal maintenance and belts. I bought all new tines for it 2 years ago. After I bought it I wanted to find an aerator as well. So I started going to other tool rental places and just asking if they had any old rental units for sale. Since it was the fall season at the time and aerations are not as popular here in the fall they were willing to sell me a nice used aerator that needed nothing for $1000. I’ve been using that machine as well ever since. Thanks for watching.
Thats awesome! I was searching how to use a scarfier and i found this helpful from Shawano Wisconsin!
What would be the cost of this entire process? The dethatching, seeding and topsoil? Approximately. Say for half an acre.
I service typically 1/4 acre or less sized properties, and it all depends on how thick the moss in my case is and how many passes to get it out would take. Also when I’m doing the complete package it consists of putting a moss control down first and waiting at least a week. Then I mow it extra short and start doing the power rake and cleanup along with an aeration and hauling debris to the dump. Then I return to put down the seed, lime, starter fertilizer and top dress with soil. For an average city lot anywhere from $1500 to $2000 for the entire job start to finish. Thanks for watching.
@@LawnCareBusinessSuccess how many jobs a season do you at the price? I need to know how you sell the homeowners to pay that much. Plz TIA
@@boblamusitele3404 its a really a lot of work.
it would be cool if i could afford one but besides renting....gotta line up a bunch of these.
You gotta do what you gotta do. Try to put some money aside from each job and pick up a used one when you can. In the meantime just rent and make that money. Thanks for watching.
@@LawnCareBusinessSuccess first thing id like to do is back myself back for my trailer and side items...and pay off my walkbehind. then i'll branch into other lawn equipment once my customer base comes up and I have more reviews. Doing this as side job till Im sure It can overtake my main job yearly
You can its called look upbeorks very good : SUNJOE SCARIFIER & D Thatcher
So would u double pricing over aeration quote I’m in Ontario
It depends on what you charge for aeration, but I would say that’s probably a good place to start and then you can see from there. Remember to keep in mind if you are renting a machine and dump fees plus travel time to dump. Alternatively you can also charge the dump fee and disposal as a separate service. Thanks for watching.
Will power raking upset my pre-emergent protection. Will I have to re/apply pre-M after?
I’m not sure. My guess is, I would say yes. I don’t use pre emergent products so I’m not quite familiar with them. If the pre-m you use is a slow release type pellet and you can still see it then yes it will get disturbed and you may end up raking it up in the debris. But if it’s already dissolved or like a liquid application then no, and I would guess it would be fine. Thanks for watching.
Do you have local competitors who are unofficially using products no longer available or permitted for home use in Canada? If so is hard to match some one who will use a very low cost pre emergent like prodiamine and then when crabgrass and other annuals are reduced 85% or more and the owner has never seen any thing like it, he becomes the best word of mouth advertising.
Does this go on? I have no clue but I wonder if they all have some 2-4,D available if they sense its profitable enough.
Similar to 15 years ago the cable guy would hook you up with some extra channels not in your package for free if you left him $50 on the table, but didn't officially hand it to him.
The cable bribe was So common here in Montreal every apartment I moved into would already have those premium channels set up and running because they were never on the package of the previous customer to be closed when they moved..very common.
Gotta wonder. Golf courses can use products you Must know Fiesta doesn't do much more than green up the lawn with iron.
I haven’t used herbicides in my business in over 12 years. Most people know the products are banned here. When I chat with clients about their lawns most express no interest in having chemical weed killers used on there lawns because of pets of kids. The biggest issue here on the west coast is moss. It grows very quickly with all the rain we get. Putting iron on the lawn kills the moss. Literally turns it black within a few hours. Makes it safe to power rake out of the lawn without worry of spreading through air born spores from the agitation created when power raking. Thanks for watching.
For dethatch what setting do you place the machine?
For dethatching you just want the tines to lightly touch the surface. So put the machine on a hard surface like a sidewalk or driveway. With the machine off, turn the times by hand until they are hanging at there lowest point. From there use the height adjustment knob to raise or lower the times until they just touch the surface of the pavement. That will give you a good starting point. From there you can start dethatching and use the adjustment knob to micro adjust the height as needed. Thanks for watching.
I am having a hard time charging customers for thatching jobs.
Lots of factors to consider. First off you need to know your numbers. How much do you need to make each hour to fulfill your obligations, turn a profit and put money aside. What costs are associated with the job? Travel, fuel, dumping fees etc. thatching is a lot of work so I charge accordingly. Thanks for watching.
Lots on my area advertise detaching and simply have a fixed non movable rake on the front of a mower and do a glorified mow job. Can’t compete with their prices obviously. No one don’t want to pay the higher price. How much do you charge for 1/4 acre of grass?
good advice!
Thanks for watching. 👍
@@LawnCareBusinessSuccess where do you find the replacement belts are they common, thankns for replying i just got a blue bird older model and the belt looks worn
I just get belts from a local equipment dealer. Took the old one in and they matched the size. In the past I also got them from a local tractor supply type store. Good luck with it.
Lawn Care Business Success thanks, just subscribed I live in Alberta about 30 mins south of Calgary we have had a good spring season and am looking forward this year I am part time (side hustle) thanks for your advice
No problem. Thanks for subscribing. Oh your Canadian. That tractor supply type store I was talking about getting belts from sometimes is Princess Auto. I believe they have location around Alberta near Calgary.
Wrong, scarifying digs into the soil to let oxygen and water in, dethatching and power raking pull out the thatch to expose the soil between the blades of grass
Bruh, take a look at the pics.... a typical power raker will beat the sheeite out of the soil also... so, there's no difference when you scarify
What state u work in?
I’m on the west coast of Canada, about 10 minutes from the US border and Washington State. Basically 2 hours north of Seattle.
Wish you was in Tennessee
Why is that?
Not happy with the first landscapers that did my lawn and we are new to Tennessee. I am afraid that I might have to start over with seeding I am seeing patch spots. Of dirt
Oh ok. I was not expecting a home owner to be watching my videos. I guess I forgot that it’s not just other lawn Care business owners that can watch my videos on TH-cam. 😂 Best of luck finding a company that better suits your needs.
Is there a way I could contact you though e mail or others method?
There is a contact form on my website.
Good god fold the handles back. You don’t want the front wheels to come off the ground...
Not sure what you mean. The handles on my machine don’t fold. There is only one possible position. Thanks for watching.
Eddie factories got little metal blades like teeth the the rake lawn scarifiers got little wires metal wires that rake out the moss
That's not exponetial. It's highly linear.
Thatch isn’t moss
I know that and I never said it was. Thanks for watching.
scarifying is not raking...
He didn’t say they were, he said the machines often go by multiple names. He’s correct, because most can do both jobs
Dude, we tried a drinking game, every time you lift your hands, we drink. We lasted about 1.5 mins till I was about to vomit.
That’s awesome and your welcome! 👍🍺🤮
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Any homeowner watching this Do Not do this to your lawn! That organic material makes your lawn healthy. Removing it is stupid!.
Yeah ok. Because lawns covered in moss and thatch is healthy. 😂 Coming from a guy that puts a bunch holes in perfectly good roofs.
@@LawnCareBusinessSuccess cry baby doesnt' like free electricity and wants to pay for electricity because someone disagrees with him on youtube. yeah lawns covered in moss and thatch are fine. that's the way god made them. oh but you know better than god right?