Thanks for the video, I am currently working on a 1/72nd scale Napoleonic peninsular war British and French army for 1810 with 1 figure representing 10 men. It's good to have this option of game rules also!!!
@@NapoleonicWargamingtotally xD. It's taking a while to paint since every British batalion has 100 figures and French 60. And since it's the beginning of the 3rd invasion most of the French regiments have 4 batalions. It's quite expensive too. About 300€ for a corps. I hope that the visual impact ends up being great but I haven't yet figured out a proper table for this armies.
The best thing about 1/72 scale (aka 20mm - 25mm) is that it works for both skirmish battles and divisional scale battles. When using it for Sharp Practice I find the 28mm groundscale/movement is perfect - no need to multiply by 2/3rds or any such malarkey. I use exactly the same figures for General D’Armee with the groundscale recommended for 15mm figs and it also works flawlessly.
Been definitely considering 1/72 since Italeri and Zvezda have this scale. Thanks for this vid! Definitely makes me more enthusiastice about playing at a different scale.
Great to see that there are other players here who love their 1/72 miniatures. The eternal question is: what base sizes are you using? I'm using 50mm square bases to place 6 infantry figures in two rows of 3, with 6 bases per battalion. For cavalry, I place two minis on a 40mm frontage x 45mm base, with 6 bases per unit, and artillery on 60mm squares.
1:72 has always been my scale of choice. Since the start of lockdown I've amassed over 700 plastic Napoleonics and am working on a homebrew ruleset. Maybe I'll have to make a video of my own soon.
@@NapoleonicWargaming An eon later, here's my official 1/72 channel launch! Still getting the hang of recording videos, but I've just posted an overview of my small Bavarian force, with videos on my larger French and Austrian armies to come later.
Ah the video I was hoping for. Got an army of Essex Miniatures Austrians and have been playing with a different ruleset but I've heard good things about Black Powder so it'd be good to give it a try
I'm in the middle of starting two 1:1 scale armies for Napoleonic wargaming in 2mm - 800 man battalions, 1mm = 1 yard, all the ranges adjusted to be correct to the period...It looks pretty cool seeing a long, red line of troops across the board!
Hey man, thanks for the video. I subbed to you not too long ago but I have been referencing your videos for quite some time to touch on Napoleonic era formations and other things that are useful for the era in general. First thing I wanna say is that I love your painting style and you are a very knowledgeable person. Second I just want to say what a lot of us are thinking and that is YOU ARE ONE MAD LAD TO FORM A WHOLE NAPO ARMY IN 28mm!!! I absolutely love the progress and I love the determination that you have. I just can’t help but feel like 28 mm might not be the best scale to play Napoleonics in because you need so many men for maybe 95% of the rules that’s out there. It can be fun to play skirmish games in the Napoleonic era and 28 mm is great for that. I don’t think I would play any skirmish games in any scale lower than that, maybe 20 mm at the lowest. But trying to obtain enough men to field even a single corps in the era is a task in itself between finding a Publisher that you like, assembling your men and then painting all of them up. Holy cow it is a pretty crazy adventure. That’s why I find that playing Napoleonic battles in smaller scales such as 6mm or 15 mm really takes the cake for me because even though you may not be able to paint as much detail onto the troops as you can in the bigger scales however you can certainly field more men, maneuver them easier and you can use the same table space to fight an even bigger battle or if you want to, fight the same battle but in a closer manpower ratio. And last but not least if you do play that era in a smaller scale you will find yourself spending the same amount of money or possibly less on fielding the same units. That’s just my opinion and everybody has their own. Different strokes for different folks I suppose and that’s the best part about wargaming! You can pick your scale, your command level, your era, your nation and your army! I find that most Historical wargamers are very nice people and willing to talk to you about information and even give you tips that they have, even though the community is graying I find that mostly everybody I meet through the hobby are some of the most generous and nicest people I have ever had the honor of meeting. Just like you! You put out so much information about this time period for anybody searching for it and you’re not asking for a dime! It’s all for the love of the Hobby and thats why I respect you so much. Once again thank you for the video thank you for all your previous videos and thank you for spreading the knowledge you have to other people, you are a very fine person! Until next time sir, take care!
LaSalle and Blucher give all measurements in "Basewidths" (BW). There are charts in the rules which tell you how big a BW is. For example, our 15mm units based for Empire yield a BW of 1". We've played Blucher in 54mm, which was "very interesting".
I was planning to do my 6mm measurements (not got 2 armies yet!) by halving the inches then turning to cm. e.g. 12" becomes 6cm. As you say the 1st Ed BP book has the adaptions in the back, but I don't find their conversions too clear. I saw a 40mm Naps game at Salute a few years ago. It was a beauty to behold.
It would be great to see a video that focuses on 20mm/1/72nd Napoleonics. My lockdown Nap projects have all been in this scale. Hoping to play a few battles when lockdown restrictions finally ease.
I would just go by base size. I'm thinking of 6mm on 25mm bases, with 12 4x3 infantry per base. Then cavalry on the same bases but with 5 figs per base on half, and the other bases with 4 figs. I also play Napoleons Battles which normally has four cavalry per 25x50 base in 15mm. So this way I can just move the bases with four figures to the rear, and it should all still make sense for Black Powder and NB. Ranges I will just 1/2 for the 6mm games since the bases are half the size. Each figure for infantry is going to be somewhere around 40 or so people in real terms. Depending on what you're trying to depict on the table with each unit. This also makes excellent use of the Baccus 6mm range. Since their 96 infantry packs will make you 8 stands of 12. And the 45 fig cavalry packs will make 5 stands of cavalry with the 5 4 figure basing mentioned above.
Wow, I was shocked to hear you say that the 1/72 scale is not really used. I'm new to all this and having issues finding 28mm in the hobby stores in my area. But there are tons of boxes of 1/72 scale. I guess it's popular over here in Canada? Great video, thanks!
Yeah, I was keeping an eye on the time and probably could have gone more into that statement! It is a very popular scale, but it's not used at conventions/tournaments/shows except. It does seem to be the garage gamer scale of choice though, and that's great! 20mm Airfix Naps are what got me in to the period, and companies such as Zvezda are really carrying the torch!
I think 1/72 (20 mm) are popular in North American hobby shops. Not sure about gaming. I used to do tabletop WWII skirmishes in 1/72 and we used HO scale (1/87) scenery (pre-internet days). Painting 1/72 Germans and Americans was difficult enough for me 30 years ago. I want to get into this hobby, and feel like the sweet spot for painting, cost and gaming would be 15mm or 20 mm.
You only need about 60 figures a side to play a skirmish game like Sharp Practice, which is huge fun. The only problem is basing requirements but there are simple workarounds. You can expand Sharp Practice to fight armies of 150 a side or more with only minor adjustments.
@@sirrathersplendid4825 To me Napoleonics means masses of troops so I'm going for corps level games. My infantry are 6 bases of 6 figures each for a total of about 20 units. Cavalry are 4 bases of 3 figures for about 16 cavalry units. Add in another 20 artillery and that's where I am now. I love the idea of having every unit type and the last for me to do is French mounted Carabiners which since nobody makes early type I plan on converting HaT mounted grenadiers. I have room to set up a table over 14 x 6 but I'm in no rush as I really enjoy the painting. I'd love any input on which rule set works best for 20mm - I have Black Powder and GDB both of which seem very good though GDB may be overly complex.
@@davidcollins2648 - It was the big battles that got me into Napoleonics, so I can see where you’re coming from. Personally, I find General D’Armee the best set of ‘big battle’ rules. They were written by the author of GDB, as a slightly simplified system. They put quite a lot of stress on skirmish lines, which from my reading of the battle accounts is entirely fair, especially towards 1815. They work best with each player commanding a division, but are entirely viable with a corps made up of two or thee divisions.
For such a supposedly "odd" scale, it's funny that you use 25mm (1/72) figures for just about every photo of unpainted figures you show. Also, 1/72 was pretty much the standard scale when I was growing up. Bruce Quarrie wrote his "Napoleonic Wargaming in Minature" book for 25mm figures and I remember there being a huge series in Airfix Magazine (my brother subscribed) about converting & painting the old Airfix sets to cover all the combatant armies.
@@NapoleonicWargaming 1/72 is 1" = 6' (12 x 6 = 72). 1/72 figures should be 1" (i.e. 25.4mm) tall - though I know that varies from manufacturer to manufacturer - and sometimes between kits by the same company. Got to agree with you on Zvezda though, they make some magnificent 1/72 sets!
@@douglasherron7534 why your calculations might be correct (you've heard me do maths live on my videos so I'm in no position to argue! 😂) if you buy 25mm mini (wg Old Glory or Minifigs) to go with your 1/72 guys you'll be disappointed, theyll be massive. Manufacturers sell 20mm minis (SHQ and Newline for example) that mix with 1/72. In fact a few of my Strelets British battalions have 20mm Newline Design command groups
@@NapoleonicWargaming Thanks for the info. I've been interested in wargaming for decades (as you might tell from my previous references!) but I've never been able to build my own army before - so all guidance is welcome. Having found Zvezda when working in Kazakhstan, I've gone for 1/72 figures. I found a website called "Plastic Soldier Review" which gives pretty comprehensive details of figure sets (including sizes). What is more complicated than figures, in some ways, is deciding which rule set to use - and what ground scale best applies (both for basing and movement). That's where I find sites like yours very helpful.
@@douglasherron7534 Yes , "plastic soldier review" is a huge help. Answers questions about dates of uniform changes, and possible conversions. Wish zvezda would make more Napoleonics in 1/72 , they make excellent figures.
Where is the mention of the BEST scale for Napooleonics? That being 10mm of course. Magister Militum, Newline, Old Glory, Irregular, Lancer and of course Pendraken provide some beautiful figures. I have battalions of 60-80 figures, cavalry regiments of 40 and batteries of 2-3 pieces and they look magnificent on the table. I'd put the aesthetics of a square of 80 figures against a square of 24 figures any day. As penance I think you should do a video just on 10mm figures.
@@NapoleonicWargaming Well not to shill for Pendraken, but they are very close to you (Sunderland) and they have an impressive Napoleonic range and are currently working on an extensive Peninsula revamp. Leon is very friendly so why don't you give him a call? They've just moved into new premises which I'm sure he'd be delighted to show off. (Sorry Leon.)
I don't feel the need to adjust the ground scale, I maintain the same measurements, it works all the way down to 15mm. I also use 1/72 for Bolt Action, again I don't change the measurment scales.
Hmm I've been hunting 1/72 figures to get started in Napoleonic's. After this vid I looked up the Warlord Epic Scale and it looks sweet, though they dont seem to list the scale. Should I pray for Epic Scale Warlord Napoleonic's :o
Aw, no love for the Old Glory 15mm ranges? Those were the ones that got me playing Napoleonics in the first place way back when. I know they're a long way from the best sculpts ever but they're crazy cheap, especially with OG Army membership deal knocking 40% off the base cost. Bacchus does some great 6mm too, agreed.
15//18mm is king. AB figures are gorgeous as are many of the other white metal producers. I feel that 1/72nd scale requires the same painting effort as 28mm, but has less personality.
Nice video. To be fair, I wouldn’t touch the distances before getting down to 10mm. I don’t really think it’s necessary. When playing team yankee at 6mm we don’t touch them - it gives a better feel for the ranges, IMHO
I just cant countenance the idea of a tank moving 24" in 1 turn at 1/300 😂 I also think fir the Soviet player in particular it allows them the chance to see the operational scale in action too... I have heard a lot of people don't change the ranges though, it's just not for me
@@NapoleonicWargaming sure, but I remember one thing I read a long time ago in Frank Chadwick's notes for Command Decision - you can never have too much movement. I think one game that does it very well, though not historical by any stretch, is Epic Armageddon - it is the best combined arms set I've ever read and played. There, you give orders to formations, where you can move once and shoot with no penalty, move twice and shoot with penalty or thrice and not shoot at all. Ranges are in cm and a typical tank there moves about 20-25cm per move, so moving twice takes you a little under those 24" and moving thrice a little over that. I'd postulate that movement is governed by the presence of enemy contact rather than the movement rate, particularly if you have an overwatch mechanic also in the game (which I know Team Yankee doesn't). However, if you take a turn in Team Yankee to be about 15 minutes, a tank can move quite a lot in that time frame. The issue I have with Team Yankee (or Flames of War) is the car lot syndrome, which detracts immensely from play for me and not converting to cm resolves that. Of course, to each their own and one must do what makes more sense to oneself! Anyway, thanks for the video and I apologize for taking this on a tangent. I'm not much of a Napoleonics player save for the Commands and Colors system but I enjoy your videos immensely!
@@rastamann2009 no apologies needed dude! Always happy to talk TY! Yeah, it's an interesting one, as I say, not for me, but I certainly know a lot of people play that way! We just ignore the command distances 😂, we use the FoW V3 rules for them
what primer do you recommend for Strelets and Zvezda? I have tried Tamiya, Vallejo Surfacer, Rusteoleum 2x, Model Master enamel,Testors Enamel and paint can be chip off with the fingernail. I ruined the minatures when cleaning with Klean Strip. You're videos are always informative. You shold write a book with your knowledge.
As with all plastic figures the best primer is undiluted PVA glue. It provides a good ‘key’ for acrylic paint to grip to and also thickens up fragile or flexible details like weapons. First you have to wash the plastic rigorously in dishwashing soap, perhaps with an old toothbrush to remove any traces of mould release agent. One layer of PVA glue is plenty. Don’t worry about it obscuring detail on the figure as it shrinks and dries almost transparent. I tend to mix in a little acrylic paint with the PVA so it’s easier to see that the whole figure has been painted. A quick undercoat provided by cheap rattle-can or airbrush and you can start painting in earnest.
Use methylated spirit (the purple stuff) to remove paint from miniatures - it won't melt the plastic. Soak them overnight and then brush off the old paint with a toothbrush. I recommend wearing some plastic gloves when you do this as the spirit dries out your skin.
@@KS2teacher18 - The OP asked about priming before painting; not about stripping paint. In any case, I tried meths for stripping plastic figures and it was almost useless. Soaked them for several days and the paint was barely loosened. Far better was oven cleaner in a bottle; even that took a day or two to start working and as much as a week to fully remove the paint: however, it had very little effect on the harder plastic used for models.
I have had luck with rustoleum auto primer . Must first wash in dishsoap and scrub with toothbrush. I use vallejo model color straight from bottle, no thinning.
May I ask the manufacturer for the figures displayed at 4:40 and 5:48? Looks like Imperial French and Russians I believe? Beautifully proportioned figures there.. thank you for posting.
You certainly can! They are Zvezda, but they come in small packs, the numbers below are the number of each pose per pack. At about 5-6 per pack they are quite pricey. As you say, absolutely stunning though!
@@NapoleonicWargaming Thank you very much for replying. Thank you as well for your efforts in producing your outstandingly informative, and enjoyable videos.
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20mm- the king of scales!
Damn right!
Thanks for the video, I am currently working on a 1/72nd scale Napoleonic peninsular war British and French army for 1810 with 1 figure representing 10 men. It's good to have this option of game rules also!!!
Ooh they'll be big units! Theyll look awesome!
@@NapoleonicWargamingtotally xD. It's taking a while to paint since every British batalion has 100 figures and French 60. And since it's the beginning of the 3rd invasion most of the French regiments have 4 batalions. It's quite expensive too. About 300€ for a corps. I hope that the visual impact ends up being great but I haven't yet figured out a proper table for this armies.
The best thing about 1/72 scale (aka 20mm - 25mm) is that it works for both skirmish battles and divisional scale battles.
When using it for Sharp Practice I find the 28mm groundscale/movement is perfect - no need to multiply by 2/3rds or any such malarkey.
I use exactly the same figures for General D’Armee with the groundscale recommended for 15mm figs and it also works flawlessly.
1/72 all the way for me !
Been definitely considering 1/72 since Italeri and Zvezda have this scale. Thanks for this vid! Definitely makes me more enthusiastice about playing at a different scale.
I have over 1,000 of the 1/72nd scale Zvezda Great Northern War figures.
Very nice love the look across all the different scales, all the best, Garry
Great to see that there are other players here who love their 1/72 miniatures. The eternal question is: what base sizes are you using? I'm using 50mm square bases to place 6 infantry figures in two rows of 3, with 6 bases per battalion. For cavalry, I place two minis on a 40mm frontage x 45mm base, with 6 bases per unit, and artillery on 60mm squares.
40x40 for infantry, 6 per base and 60x40 with 3 per base for cavalry. Artillery is on 60x60 so we seem fairly close in size choices.
1:72 has always been my scale of choice. Since the start of lockdown I've amassed over 700 plastic Napoleonics and am working on a homebrew ruleset. Maybe I'll have to make a video of my own soon.
That would be great! Please do! I do have a real love of 1/72, and with the likes of Zvezda they only get better and better
@@NapoleonicWargaming An eon later, here's my official 1/72 channel launch! Still getting the hang of recording videos, but I've just posted an overview of my small Bavarian force, with videos on my larger French and Austrian armies to come later.
@@The72nd subbed! I look forward to seeing your content. If I can help in any way, please let me know!
@@NapoleonicWargaming Thank you, sir! Glad you were the first sub!
@@The72nd OG! I still remember my first subscriber!
Ah the video I was hoping for. Got an army of Essex Miniatures Austrians and have been playing with a different ruleset but I've heard good things about Black Powder so it'd be good to give it a try
I'm in the middle of starting two 1:1 scale armies for Napoleonic wargaming in 2mm - 800 man battalions, 1mm = 1 yard, all the ranges adjusted to be correct to the period...It looks pretty cool seeing a long, red line of troops across the board!
Wow! I'd love to see that when its finished!
I only play 1/72 scale for all historical games.
Hey man, thanks for the video. I subbed to you not too long ago but I have been referencing your videos for quite some time to touch on Napoleonic era formations and other things that are useful for the era in general. First thing I wanna say is that I love your painting style and you are a very knowledgeable person. Second I just want to say what a lot of us are thinking and that is YOU ARE ONE MAD LAD TO FORM A WHOLE NAPO ARMY IN 28mm!!! I absolutely love the progress and I love the determination that you have. I just can’t help but feel like 28 mm might not be the best scale to play Napoleonics in because you need so many men for maybe 95% of the rules that’s out there. It can be fun to play skirmish games in the Napoleonic era and 28 mm is great for that. I don’t think I would play any skirmish games in any scale lower than that, maybe 20 mm at the lowest. But trying to obtain enough men to field even a single corps in the era is a task in itself between finding a Publisher that you like, assembling your men and then painting all of them up. Holy cow it is a pretty crazy adventure. That’s why I find that playing Napoleonic battles in smaller scales such as 6mm or 15 mm really takes the cake for me because even though you may not be able to paint as much detail onto the troops as you can in the bigger scales however you can certainly field more men, maneuver them easier and you can use the same table space to fight an even bigger battle or if you want to, fight the same battle but in a closer manpower ratio. And last but not least if you do play that era in a smaller scale you will find yourself spending the same amount of money or possibly less on fielding the same units. That’s just my opinion and everybody has their own. Different strokes for different folks I suppose and that’s the best part about wargaming! You can pick your scale, your command level, your era, your nation and your army! I find that most Historical wargamers are very nice people and willing to talk to you about information and even give you tips that they have, even though the community is graying I find that mostly everybody I meet through the hobby are some of the most generous and nicest people I have ever had the honor of meeting. Just like you! You put out so much information about this time period for anybody searching for it and you’re not asking for a dime! It’s all for the love of the Hobby and thats why I respect you so much. Once again thank you for the video thank you for all your previous videos and thank you for spreading the knowledge you have to other people, you are a very fine person! Until next time sir, take care!
LaSalle and Blucher give all measurements in "Basewidths" (BW). There are charts in the rules which tell you how big a BW is. For example, our 15mm units based for Empire yield a BW of 1". We've played Blucher in 54mm, which was "very interesting".
I was planning to do my 6mm measurements (not got 2 armies yet!) by halving the inches then turning to cm. e.g. 12" becomes 6cm. As you say the 1st Ed BP book has the adaptions in the back, but I don't find their conversions too clear. I saw a 40mm Naps game at Salute a few years ago. It was a beauty to behold.
It would be great to see a video that focuses on 20mm/1/72nd Napoleonics. My lockdown Nap projects have all been in this scale. Hoping to play a few battles when lockdown restrictions finally ease.
I second the notion.
I would just go by base size. I'm thinking of 6mm on 25mm bases, with 12 4x3 infantry per base. Then cavalry on the same bases but with 5 figs per base on half, and the other bases with 4 figs. I also play Napoleons Battles which normally has four cavalry per 25x50 base in 15mm. So this way I can just move the bases with four figures to the rear, and it should all still make sense for Black Powder and NB.
Ranges I will just 1/2 for the 6mm games since the bases are half the size. Each figure for infantry is going to be somewhere around 40 or so people in real terms. Depending on what you're trying to depict on the table with each unit.
This also makes excellent use of the Baccus 6mm range. Since their 96 infantry packs will make you 8 stands of 12. And the 45 fig cavalry packs will make 5 stands of cavalry with the 5 4 figure basing mentioned above.
Wow, I was shocked to hear you say that the 1/72 scale is not really used. I'm new to all this and having issues finding 28mm in the hobby stores in my area. But there are tons of boxes of 1/72 scale. I guess it's popular over here in Canada? Great video, thanks!
Yeah, I was keeping an eye on the time and probably could have gone more into that statement! It is a very popular scale, but it's not used at conventions/tournaments/shows except. It does seem to be the garage gamer scale of choice though, and that's great! 20mm Airfix Naps are what got me in to the period, and companies such as Zvezda are really carrying the torch!
I think 1/72 (20 mm) are popular in North American hobby shops. Not sure about gaming. I used to do tabletop WWII skirmishes in 1/72 and we used HO scale (1/87) scenery (pre-internet days). Painting 1/72 Germans and Americans was difficult enough for me 30 years ago.
I want to get into this hobby, and feel like the sweet spot for painting, cost and gaming would be 15mm or 20 mm.
Very helpful video. I would be interested in more 20mm topics e.g. to how to build an army with the relatively limited ranges of 20mm figures.
thanks so much! Spent the last 2+ years building French and Austrian armies in 20mm. I almost feel ready to try out a game.
You only need about 60 figures a side to play a skirmish game like Sharp Practice, which is huge fun. The only problem is basing requirements but there are simple workarounds.
You can expand Sharp Practice to fight armies of 150 a side or more with only minor adjustments.
@@sirrathersplendid4825 To me Napoleonics means masses of troops so I'm going for corps level games. My infantry are 6 bases of 6 figures each for a total of about 20 units. Cavalry are 4 bases of 3 figures for about 16 cavalry units. Add in another 20 artillery and that's where I am now. I love the idea of having every unit type and the last for me to do is French mounted Carabiners which since nobody makes early type I plan on converting HaT mounted grenadiers. I have room to set up a table over 14 x 6 but I'm in no rush as I really enjoy the painting. I'd love any input on which rule set works best for 20mm - I have Black Powder and GDB both of which seem very good though GDB may be overly complex.
@@davidcollins2648 - It was the big battles that got me into Napoleonics, so I can see where you’re coming from.
Personally, I find General D’Armee the best set of ‘big battle’ rules. They were written by the author of GDB, as a slightly simplified system. They put quite a lot of stress on skirmish lines, which from my reading of the battle accounts is entirely fair, especially towards 1815.
They work best with each player commanding a division, but are entirely viable with a corps made up of two or thee divisions.
@@sirrathersplendid4825 Thanks mate! I have GDA as well so I'm set.
I’m starting with 10mm, I can see myself doing 15mm as well. 28’s though are hard for me to get behind due to space
That's fair enough!
I've always wondered about this!!
For such a supposedly "odd" scale, it's funny that you use 25mm (1/72) figures for just about every photo of unpainted figures you show.
Also, 1/72 was pretty much the standard scale when I was growing up. Bruce Quarrie wrote his "Napoleonic Wargaming in Minature" book for 25mm figures and I remember there being a huge series in Airfix Magazine (my brother subscribed) about converting & painting the old Airfix sets to cover all the combatant armies.
1/72 are more 20mm than 25mm bud, but yeah, it's a great scale!
@@NapoleonicWargaming 1/72 is 1" = 6' (12 x 6 = 72).
1/72 figures should be 1" (i.e. 25.4mm) tall - though I know that varies from manufacturer to manufacturer - and sometimes between kits by the same company.
Got to agree with you on Zvezda though, they make some magnificent 1/72 sets!
@@douglasherron7534 why your calculations might be correct (you've heard me do maths live on my videos so I'm in no position to argue! 😂) if you buy 25mm mini (wg Old Glory or Minifigs) to go with your 1/72 guys you'll be disappointed, theyll be massive. Manufacturers sell 20mm minis (SHQ and Newline for example) that mix with 1/72. In fact a few of my Strelets British battalions have 20mm Newline Design command groups
@@NapoleonicWargaming Thanks for the info.
I've been interested in wargaming for decades (as you might tell from my previous references!) but I've never been able to build my own army before - so all guidance is welcome. Having found Zvezda when working in Kazakhstan, I've gone for 1/72 figures. I found a website called "Plastic Soldier Review" which gives pretty comprehensive details of figure sets (including sizes).
What is more complicated than figures, in some ways, is deciding which rule set to use - and what ground scale best applies (both for basing and movement). That's where I find sites like yours very helpful.
@@douglasherron7534 Yes , "plastic soldier review" is a huge help. Answers questions about dates of uniform changes, and possible conversions. Wish zvezda would make more Napoleonics in 1/72 , they make excellent figures.
Half the movement ranges, increase unit sizes and keep everything else the same.
It seems perfect for 1/72
That's what I do when playing Black Powder in 1/72 scale
Where is the mention of the BEST scale for Napooleonics? That being 10mm of course. Magister Militum, Newline, Old Glory, Irregular, Lancer and of course Pendraken provide some beautiful figures. I have battalions of 60-80 figures, cavalry regiments of 40 and batteries of 2-3 pieces and they look magnificent on the table. I'd put the aesthetics of a square of 80 figures against a square of 24 figures any day. As penance I think you should do a video just on 10mm figures.
Haha, I wouldnt know where to start! I do like 10mm for Blucher though
@@NapoleonicWargaming Well not to shill for Pendraken, but they are very close to you (Sunderland) and they have an impressive Napoleonic range and are currently working on an extensive Peninsula revamp. Leon is very friendly so why don't you give him a call? They've just moved into new premises which I'm sure he'd be delighted to show off. (Sorry Leon.)
GHQ has 10mm Nappies as well.
do the essex 15mm and baccus 6mm models come with bases? tough time figuring it out and if not witch size should i get?
This a really good Chanel
Thanks buddy!
I don't feel the need to adjust the ground scale, I maintain the same measurements, it works all the way down to 15mm. I also use 1/72 for Bolt Action, again I don't change the measurment scales.
Hmm I've been hunting 1/72 figures to get started in Napoleonic's. After this vid I looked up the Warlord Epic Scale and it looks sweet, though they dont seem to list the scale. Should I pray for Epic Scale Warlord Napoleonic's :o
They're 12mm, sort of... I dont know if theyll do Naps, I hope they will! But we'll have to see
they measure about 14.5mm so big 12mm or small 15mm
Aw, no love for the Old Glory 15mm ranges? Those were the ones that got me playing Napoleonics in the first place way back when. I know they're a long way from the best sculpts ever but they're crazy cheap, especially with OG Army membership deal knocking 40% off the base cost.
Bacchus does some great 6mm too, agreed.
I'll be honest...I am not 😂 BUT and this is the most important thing, they appeal to, and have brought joy to, many people, so good on them for that
15//18mm is king. AB figures are gorgeous as are many of the other white metal producers.
I feel that 1/72nd scale requires the same painting effort as 28mm, but has less personality.
1/72 scale is a lot cheaper though.
Nice video. To be fair, I wouldn’t touch the distances before getting down to 10mm. I don’t really think it’s necessary. When playing team yankee at 6mm we don’t touch them - it gives a better feel for the ranges, IMHO
I just cant countenance the idea of a tank moving 24" in 1 turn at 1/300 😂 I also think fir the Soviet player in particular it allows them the chance to see the operational scale in action too...
I have heard a lot of people don't change the ranges though, it's just not for me
@@NapoleonicWargaming sure, but I remember one thing I read a long time ago in Frank Chadwick's notes for Command Decision - you can never have too much movement.
I think one game that does it very well, though not historical by any stretch, is Epic Armageddon - it is the best combined arms set I've ever read and played. There, you give orders to formations, where you can move once and shoot with no penalty, move twice and shoot with penalty or thrice and not shoot at all. Ranges are in cm and a typical tank there moves about 20-25cm per move, so moving twice takes you a little under those 24" and moving thrice a little over that. I'd postulate that movement is governed by the presence of enemy contact rather than the movement rate, particularly if you have an overwatch mechanic also in the game (which I know Team Yankee doesn't). However, if you take a turn in Team Yankee to be about 15 minutes, a tank can move quite a lot in that time frame. The issue I have with Team Yankee (or Flames of War) is the car lot syndrome, which detracts immensely from play for me and not converting to cm resolves that.
Of course, to each their own and one must do what makes more sense to oneself! Anyway, thanks for the video and I apologize for taking this on a tangent. I'm not much of a Napoleonics player save for the Commands and Colors system but I enjoy your videos immensely!
@@rastamann2009 no apologies needed dude! Always happy to talk TY! Yeah, it's an interesting one, as I say, not for me, but I certainly know a lot of people play that way!
We just ignore the command distances 😂, we use the FoW V3 rules for them
what primer do you recommend for Strelets and Zvezda? I have tried Tamiya, Vallejo Surfacer, Rusteoleum 2x, Model Master enamel,Testors Enamel and paint can be chip off with the fingernail. I ruined the minatures when cleaning with Klean Strip. You're videos are always informative. You shold write a book with your knowledge.
No primer seems perfect for 20mm figures as all will chip off. Applying several coats of flat varnish are the key to preserving your paint.
As with all plastic figures the best primer is undiluted PVA glue. It provides a good ‘key’ for acrylic paint to grip to and also thickens up fragile or flexible details like weapons.
First you have to wash the plastic rigorously in dishwashing soap, perhaps with an old toothbrush to remove any traces of mould release agent. One layer of PVA glue is plenty. Don’t worry about it obscuring detail on the figure as it shrinks and dries almost transparent.
I tend to mix in a little acrylic paint with the PVA so it’s easier to see that the whole figure has been painted.
A quick undercoat provided by cheap rattle-can or airbrush and you can start painting in earnest.
Use methylated spirit (the purple stuff) to remove paint from miniatures - it won't melt the plastic. Soak them overnight and then brush off the old paint with a toothbrush. I recommend wearing some plastic gloves when you do this as the spirit dries out your skin.
@@KS2teacher18 - The OP asked about priming before painting; not about stripping paint.
In any case, I tried meths for stripping plastic figures and it was almost useless. Soaked them for several days and the paint was barely loosened. Far better was oven cleaner in a bottle; even that took a day or two to start working and as much as a week to fully remove the paint: however, it had very little effect on the harder plastic used for models.
I have had luck with rustoleum auto primer . Must first wash in dishsoap and scrub with toothbrush. I use vallejo model color straight from bottle, no thinning.
May I ask the manufacturer for the figures displayed at 4:40 and 5:48? Looks like Imperial French and Russians I believe? Beautifully proportioned figures there.. thank you for posting.
You certainly can! They are Zvezda, but they come in small packs, the numbers below are the number of each pose per pack. At about 5-6 per pack they are quite pricey. As you say, absolutely stunning though!
@@NapoleonicWargaming Thank you very much for replying. Thank you as well for your efforts in producing your outstandingly informative, and enjoyable videos.
Dude you didnt mention 2mm!