I can't believe I've just come across this video!! I am laughing as you describe chat shows and "a certain American family reality show", Love Island, etc. as being geared towards woman, and indeed, "trashy" and "guilty pleasures" - I laugh because my partner and his friends absolutely do not consider "Gold Rush", "Forged in Fire", and (insert gear-head car show here) as trash - they see them as "educational". I do wonder if because women throughout time have been called "gossips", and today's gossip is forgotten by tomorrow, that these shows are still considered ephemera? Thus, Shakespeare and Marlowe, et al in keeping the plays all male and outside the walls of the city, give the plays not only legitimacy, but also can claim them as "educational" (i.e. Othello)? Fascinating, fascinating video and topic!!
Yesssss! As a nearly decade long stage manager of Shakespeare, I love your approach to this. PLEASE keep making videos! They are getting me through this!
How about a video on the first female actors? Anne Marshall, Anne Bracegirdle, Nell Gwynn? I believe Anne Marshall was likely the first female Desdemona. Should be interesting!
I just saw this and I want to say Brava! It was so very academic! I was educated in European history by Harvard "dinosuars" (do you know the term for university faculty?) and my standards for academic rigor are strict. You meet them every time. What a pleasure to have a PhD presenting on You Tube! There is a lot of nonsense here. If I had seen this 3 yrs ago, I would have subscribed immediately. Unfortunately, I "found" You Tube only less than a year ago. Thank you!
I enjoyed this so much! I am not a scholar of any kind but you make the information relatable, interesting, and it always gets me thinking, seeing things a new. Thank you and more plz!!!
Thank you so much for bringing an academic rigor and research to such a “trashy” forum! I really hope that you will revisit this subject soon for your more recent fans like myself who may not be able to find this and other gems like it.
I only recently found this channel, and this is my favorite video so far. This was the most fun I've had in ages. How I miss absorbing academic conversation.
Really got me thinking...here in Virginia, 🇺🇸, I was called "white trash" and ironically we did just what you described, embraced the pejorative, taking the sting out of the insult as a way of not feeling bullied, though definitely more isolated. "Trashy" is a common insult and 95% directed to a female element/individual wow! Really had me in thrall with this!!
this video needs its own "wow" icon! I serendipitously stumbled on one of your videos a few days ago and have been captivated - thank you for the mind stimulation at a time when it's so sorely needed!
Always golden, your posts. It's like we sit for an historical mini-class on subjects always interesting, thought-provoking and often very funny. WELL DONE. I have been binge-watching from the earliest offering. What a lucky girl I am to have discovered your channel!
I would love to read your thesis, or hear you talk more about it. Especially on any new thoughts or conclusions you have come to since the time you defended it.
Very enlightening to listen to your take on Shakespearen theatre - it illuminates a lot! Reading about a "cockpit" [that cannot] "hold the vasty fields of France" all of a sudden has a whole new layer of meaning. Why should they point this out unless they thought it important to minimize the cultural "danger" of their very own stage? Fascinating. Thanks ever so much for taking me back to the feeling of being at university where acknowledged "truths" can be "rethought". And thank you also for shedding a very interesting light on today's culture which shows that some things somehow never change... :o)
This is very interesting. I would love you Dr Kat to consider doing a video about Kit Marlow. His reputation as a great writer and his contribution to Theatre, and his possible homosexuality that seems to have been tolerated as a persistent rumor. His mysterious death, was he a spy for Elizabeth? and the evidence that he spent his life abroad and that he really was the real Shakespeare, and not Shakespear, the man from Stratford ie 'reasonable doubt' I would love this. Thanks
Hello Dr kat this video had me thinking and seeing things more clearly thank you for it explaining you were spot on about reality TV shows ps my cat and dog likes the sound of ur voice it's very calming to the them
This was a fabulous subject. Never thought about this aspect of theatrical performance or why women were excluded jfrom the British stage during this period.
What an interesting perspective on managing or molding public human behavior through acting it out in an entertaining way! Public examples (plays) of good or bad behavior they can see, hear, smell, touch, etc. To learn how to behave in public in their time when few received any formal education! So clever!!!
Just curious if you think the male dominated theatre of the late 1500's might not have been a "safe place" for homosexual men to write, act and perform. Keeping women off the stage and out of the productions might "legitimize" the groups of gay men working and spending time together? Just a thought....sort of linking Shakespeare's "fair youth" sonnets, Marlow's possible homosexuality, subject matter of Marlow's "The jew of Malta" etc.
As I recall, one of the criticisms Puritans used to throw at the theater is that men kissing each other onstage and cross-dressing would lead to "sodomy", which seems relevant to your idea!
A small quibble to that: while english theatre would likely be an accepting/tolerant space (not always "safe" space) for gay men of the time - in the way that the arts seem always to have been an accepting and tolerant space - I don't think that accounts for the male domination of theatre in the way Dr Kat mentions. I was not aware that theatre companies in greater europe of the time were mixed gender. I wouldn't have thought other european cultures of the time, on average, showed greater general tolerance for LGBTQ people. That seems to lean into a different interpretation of the societal value of theatre and any need to defend it or revile it. It's interesting.
This is an absolutely incredible dissertation and I am beyond impressed and awed by it. I think it would be a fantastic book because it sounds like there is a lot of material here. Do you think that's something that may happen in the future? Is that something you want? I know sometimes academics and writers don't necessarily want to expand and publish their doctoral work, but your scholarship contributes quite a lot to our canon of history and I would be first in line to buy a copy! But in the meantime, your videos are fantastic and I am constantly learning, and for things I know about, am getting so many great different angles and ideas. Thank you so much for all that you do!
Just found you a week ago and I can’t stop watching. I appreciate your facile use of the English language. Thank you for your erudite thoughts and phrasing. I’m hooked!!!
Sending trash to the colonies, including people who were considered trash. I’m a fifth generation Tasmanian, whose ancestors were convicts sent whether they liked it or not and picture framers taking advantage of the new wealth and opportunities available in a “new” world. Terribly sad and disgusting that the colonists were almost completely successful in wiping out the local Indigenous Aboriginal population who may have existed here between 60 -120 thousand years prior to colonization. They have survived by mere degrees.
Thank you Dr Kat. I am reading your thesis which I have downloaded and it is making an Australian winter and the the fifth Covid lockdown ( yes! fifth) more bearable. I have just read about mercantile use of the word trash and its link with the English Reformation. Cheers Dr Jenny
What an interesting video! Did not know many of the things you mentioned about theaters or the male only performers being an English thing. I thought it was more universal. I find language and it's transformation over the years to be a fascinating topic for study. Perhaps you might cover more along these lines in the future? Thank you again for this channel, I am having fun going through all of your uploads!
2:00 That’s actually the reason why there are so few rubbish bins in Japan. I lived there & frequently return, and it’s a bit of a hassle. There’s a perception in the West that it’s due to recycling or public responsibility etc, however actually until the 1995 sarin gas attacks they had plenty of waste bins just like in other countries. Apparently they were concerned about terrorists putting bombs in them, so most of them were removed. I don’t quite understand the reasoning there, even after asking friends/teachers in the police force there. But there you go.
Wow Dr. Kat! This older video of yours was really insightful, I loved hearing about "trash" in perspective. I do have to leave a very 2024 take: when you were at the part of talking about the anti-theatrical sentiment and how theater, as an art form, had lecherous and feminizing effects on the public (which was dangerous!), I couldn't help but thinking about the modern conservative (at least in the US) push against drag in public places. It is as close-minded and presumptuous and fear-mongering. Great video again! I wonder if you'd consider revisiting this topic, if you had anything else to say about trash in 2024? So thought-provoking.
That was very interesting and informative. It is nice to know that it is acknowledged that there is nothing wrong "trashy" telly and magazines (in moderation).
I love your videos. They have become a mainstay of quarantine for me and very thought provoking. This video in particular is fascinating, because it's so clear the subject is a passion project for you. Even if you hadn't mentioned your thesis, I would have been intrigued by your clear passion and deep knowledge of the subject. Really timely and resonant. So cool!
Dear Dr Kat, Could you give us a talk about Dr. Roger Ascham, tutor to Elizabeth I? My daughter goes to a fancy private school named after him ---pronounced "Ass-kam" rather than "Ash-am"--- and over the years, as I have sought more information about him, I have found him increasingly interesting and , am sure he is spinning in his grave, as schools--for girls-- become less academic and more about sports, less about discipline and more about odd notions of socialising and bullying. Dr. Ascham seemed to take pride in being a good teacher and making sure the girls and young women he taught "knew their stuff" and lived their learning. Please?
Wrestling is definitely trash TV. (Although a lot of so-called reality TV is also trash TV.) I would say that Vogue is rather too high-brow to be trash.
Absolutely Fabulous - a real insight into attitudes toward and in the Theatre. P.S. as a man I think the reason we have tended to sideline women is we know you are inherently superior - men would not allow themselves to become pregnant, carry a ' parasite' for nine months that attempts to kill them, GIVE BIRTH (OW!), tend that infant until they die of old age, and do that multiple times to the extent of regreting that old age prevents them from having another one. INDOMITABLE STRENGTH. We recognize that when that power is unleashed it is almost unstoppable - Boadicea, Elizabeth 1, Joan of Ark etc.
Edward de Vere, 17th Earl of Oxford was my 3rd cousin 11x removed and a fascinating ancestor. Have you, or would you produce an episode devoted to him please. Not much information appears to be available for his mother Margery Golding my 2nd cousin 12x removed so any light you may shed would be immensely appreciated. Thank you.
I don't think most people today recognize the power of words. This video brought up several topics that I feel are important today. First being the work by woman being considered trash. It seems we are still often our own worst enemy. Until we can portray ourselves in realistic roles that aren't using sex to gain an upper hand over men we will always be seen as sexual objects and little more. I'm curious how you feel about movies that are rewriting history and portraying women in roles that simply didn't exist? Netflix has a movie, whose name I can't remember, but it was a period movie about the War of 1812. In it the Americans were demonized, while the British and Mohawks were glorified. After a battle a group of American soldiers were lost in the woods trying to get back to camp. They encountered Mohawks and fought and killed all, but one woman. They then show her shaving her head and preparing to battle the group of men, which by this time I believe were three. She succeeds in hunting them down and then beating them in hand to hand combat, an absolute absurdity, It's feminist propaganda on top of racial hate, demonizing the white man and trying to shame us into denying our pasts. There is no mention of the British involvement in capturing American ships and soldiers. There is no mention of the British policies being what set the standard for treatment of natives. It's simply anti-white, pro-woman with zero attention to historical accuracy.Britain and America were mother and child having a final battle of wills, nothing more, nothing less. As a woman I find it disgusting that we're portrayed as physical equals to men and that there is no celebration of the strong women often behind the scenes who had a hand in creating history. It's dumbing down the children of today and seems to be an attempt at shaming us over our countries histories and policies that we as nation's would never condone today. Why can't people accept history as it was and understand that those men built the world we live in today. Without those men and their woman the world would not exist as we know it. Today we have a former black president who works behind the scenes at Netflix retelling our histories with the conquered and less empowered being the victors and the ones who actually created history being the villian. History is not always pretty. If we rewrite the past we lose the amazing women and "minorities" that worked so hard to create equality and fairness. We skip entire lessons on why we fight so hard for equality still today. The fight was often brutal, bloody, and oppressive. Can we disagree with their treatments of indigenous people? Sure. Can we hate that women were basically third class citizens? Sure. Can we allow the truth to be altered because it hurts someone's feelings? No. The American feminist movement seeks to elevate woman off the backs of men while forgetting where we come from. We don't study the movements our sisters created. We simply think men and women can and should be able to do the same jobs. There's no thought process, no critical thinking applied,no appreciation for how far they brought us. It's become dangerous. Example, jobs as firemen require a test of physical strength. Women were incapable of passing the test so the standards were lowered, thereby potentially compromising the safety of society. Is that what equality is all about? Instead of focusing on our brilliance or enriching our strengths as women we're taught to be equal to a man we must be a man. I don't apologize if people are offended because I simply do not care anymore. The past is the past and can no longer hurt anyone. Changing it takes away the motivation to keep moving forward and trying to do better.
Making the observation that, in Britain, the word “rubbish” is used for the same physical refuse that Americans use the word “trash”. It is my understanding that the use of the word trash in Britain, at least in past, was a base level below common rubbish and an adverse word to use, there.
There's a difference between everyday corsetry and tight lacing. You should check out Bernadette Banner here on TH-cam. She research and recreates historical garments. Here's a link to her video on Victorian era corsets: th-cam.com/video/5QUEf-8BKyE/w-d-xo.html
My question is - Is Heywood's defense that theater exists to "contain trash" necessarily the defense everyone who was involved with theater, or supported it, would've had? I can't help but wonder if some, while not admitting it to be bad or harmful, would've simply seen it as lighthearted entertainment. Heywood's defense also seems to revolve around the idea that theater exists to promote good morals and enforce the status quo, and you certainly see those ideas in Early Modern plays, but I think you also see writers like Shakespeare and Marlowe using theater to question the status quo at times. Naturally they had to be subtle about it (or at least have a certain level of deniability), but it's very obvious in some of their works and also calls into question whether Heywood speaks for all of them, I think.
I am wondering about the noble’s attitude toward women, if Shakespeare was, as rumored, a noble perhaps supported this mindset. It is interesting since Queen Elizabeth was ruling. Am I reaching for it? It seems to me male dominance in every aspect was key. Women, in general, were considered property for eons. The various biographies of strong women in court and society are intriguing, but, even they were precarious. On the other hand, perhaps not allowing women to be viewed on stage was a means of protecting. Although, actors and actresses only recently have garnered esteem socially in the span of human history. I digress. I enjoyed your discussion.
I think we're thinking about this backwards. I think it's problematic that acknowledged trash TV is being marketed towards women whilst the assumed audience of educational and respectable content is men. Women are a big part of the audience and creators of such great content. The assumption that women primarily want to see trash and don't have a thirst for learning is something I find deeply insulting. And there is trash TV such as Top Gear and reality TV shows targeted towards men too. Yet the trashiness of this content is given less notice. And that is the problem I think you may be getting at.
20:00 this is exactly what the Egyptian actors and actresses around 2010 alleged to be their goal when they were asked about the racy scenes in their movies.
Actually it doesn't. Romans 5:12 clearly states that sin entered the world thru one man. If you study all the references to Adam and Eve thru out the Bible there is a picture that Adam knowingly sinned, Eve was deceived into sin.
I can't believe I've just come across this video!! I am laughing as you describe chat shows and "a certain American family reality show", Love Island, etc. as being geared towards woman, and indeed, "trashy" and "guilty pleasures" - I laugh because my partner and his friends absolutely do not consider "Gold Rush", "Forged in Fire", and (insert gear-head car show here) as trash - they see them as "educational". I do wonder if because women throughout time have been called "gossips", and today's gossip is forgotten by tomorrow, that these shows are still considered ephemera? Thus, Shakespeare and Marlowe, et al in keeping the plays all male and outside the walls of the city, give the plays not only legitimacy, but also can claim them as "educational" (i.e. Othello)? Fascinating, fascinating video and topic!!
Yesssss! As a nearly decade long stage manager of Shakespeare, I love your approach to this. PLEASE keep making videos! They are getting me through this!
How about a video on the first female actors? Anne Marshall, Anne Bracegirdle, Nell Gwynn? I believe Anne Marshall was likely the first female Desdemona. Should be interesting!
I just saw this and I want to say Brava! It was so very academic! I was educated in European history by Harvard "dinosuars" (do you know the term for university faculty?) and my standards for academic rigor are strict. You meet them every time. What a pleasure to have a PhD presenting on You Tube! There is a lot of nonsense here. If I had seen this 3 yrs ago, I would have subscribed immediately. Unfortunately, I "found" You Tube only less than a year ago. Thank you!
I enjoyed this so much! I am not a scholar of any kind but you make the information relatable, interesting, and it always gets me thinking, seeing things a new. Thank you and more plz!!!
Thank you so much for bringing an academic rigor and research to such a “trashy” forum!
I really hope that you will revisit this subject soon for your more recent fans like myself who may not be able to find this and other gems like it.
I only recently found this channel, and this is my favorite video so far. This was the most fun I've had in ages. How I miss absorbing academic conversation.
Really got me thinking...here in Virginia, 🇺🇸, I was called "white trash" and ironically we did just what you described, embraced the pejorative, taking the sting out of the insult as a way of not feeling bullied, though definitely more isolated. "Trashy" is a common insult and 95% directed to a female element/individual wow! Really had me in thrall with this!!
this video needs its own "wow" icon! I serendipitously stumbled on one of your videos a few days ago and have been captivated - thank you for the mind stimulation at a time when it's so sorely needed!
I have only just recently discovered you:) I appreciate you Dr. Kat!
Always golden, your posts. It's like we sit for an historical mini-class on subjects always interesting, thought-provoking and often very funny. WELL DONE. I have been binge-watching from the earliest offering. What a lucky girl I am to have discovered your channel!
I would love to read your thesis, or hear you talk more about it. Especially on any new thoughts or conclusions you have come to since the time you defended it.
Very enlightening to listen to your take on Shakespearen theatre - it illuminates a lot! Reading about a "cockpit" [that cannot] "hold the vasty fields of France" all of a sudden has a whole new layer of meaning. Why should they point this out unless they thought it important to minimize the cultural "danger" of their very own stage? Fascinating. Thanks ever so much for taking me back to the feeling of being at university where acknowledged "truths" can be "rethought". And thank you also for shedding a very interesting light on today's culture which shows that some things somehow never change... :o)
This is very interesting. I would love you Dr Kat to consider doing a video about Kit Marlow. His reputation as a great writer and his contribution to Theatre, and his possible homosexuality that seems to have been tolerated as a persistent rumor. His mysterious death, was he a spy for Elizabeth? and the evidence that he spent his life abroad and that he really was the real Shakespeare, and not Shakespear, the man from Stratford ie 'reasonable doubt' I would love this. Thanks
Hello Dr kat this video had me thinking and seeing things more clearly thank you for it explaining you were spot on about reality TV shows ps my cat and dog likes the sound of ur voice it's very calming to the them
Wow! This covered the exact right portions of things I know I'm interested in and yet had no idea about what was described. LOVED THIS!
I was hoping that you would discuss your thesis- the title is so captivating. Your videos are so interesting, you make the subject matter come alive.
This was a fabulous subject. Never thought about this aspect of theatrical performance or why women were excluded jfrom the British stage during this period.
What an interesting perspective on managing or molding public human behavior through acting it out in an entertaining way! Public examples (plays) of good or bad behavior they can see, hear, smell, touch, etc. To learn how to behave in public in their time when few received any formal education! So clever!!!
I love the way you analyse and theorize your topics of discussion, you truly caprivate me. Thank you for all your inputs.
Just curious if you think the male dominated theatre of the late 1500's might not have been a "safe place" for homosexual men to write, act and perform. Keeping women off the stage and out of the productions might "legitimize" the groups of gay men working and spending time together? Just a thought....sort of linking Shakespeare's "fair youth" sonnets, Marlow's possible homosexuality, subject matter of Marlow's "The jew of Malta" etc.
Good point!
As I recall, one of the criticisms Puritans used to throw at the theater is that men kissing each other onstage and cross-dressing would lead to "sodomy", which seems relevant to your idea!
A small quibble to that: while english theatre would likely be an accepting/tolerant space (not always "safe" space) for gay men of the time - in the way that the arts seem always to have been an accepting and tolerant space - I don't think that accounts for the male domination of theatre in the way Dr Kat mentions. I was not aware that theatre companies in greater europe of the time were mixed gender. I wouldn't have thought other european cultures of the time, on average, showed greater general tolerance for LGBTQ people. That seems to lean into a different interpretation of the societal value of theatre and any need to defend it or revile it. It's interesting.
Loved this. You truly make me think.
This is an absolutely incredible dissertation and I am beyond impressed and awed by it. I think it would be a fantastic book because it sounds like there is a lot of material here. Do you think that's something that may happen in the future? Is that something you want? I know sometimes academics and writers don't necessarily want to expand and publish their doctoral work, but your scholarship contributes quite a lot to our canon of history and I would be first in line to buy a copy! But in the meantime, your videos are fantastic and I am constantly learning, and for things I know about, am getting so many great different angles and ideas. Thank you so much for all that you do!
My first thought watching this was, now let’s remember this creator’s name to look for a copy of her thesis to buy…
Just found you a week ago and I can’t stop watching. I appreciate your facile use of the English language. Thank you for your erudite thoughts and phrasing. I’m hooked!!!
Sending trash to the colonies, including people who were considered trash. I’m a fifth generation Tasmanian, whose ancestors were convicts sent whether they liked it or not and picture framers taking advantage of the new wealth and opportunities available in a “new” world. Terribly sad and disgusting that the colonists were almost completely successful in wiping out the local Indigenous Aboriginal population who may have existed here between 60 -120 thousand years prior to colonization. They have survived by mere degrees.
Such an interesting topic and more,proof that language is changing as much as the sea and context is of the utmost importance to ‘get it.’ ❤❤❤
Thank you Dr Kat. I am reading your thesis which I have downloaded and it is making an Australian winter and the the fifth Covid lockdown ( yes! fifth) more bearable. I have just read
about mercantile use of the word trash and its link with the English Reformation. Cheers Dr Jenny
What an interesting video! Did not know many of the things you mentioned about theaters or the male only performers being an English thing. I thought it was more universal.
I find language and it's transformation over the years to be a fascinating topic for study. Perhaps you might cover more along these lines in the future?
Thank you again for this channel, I am having fun going through all of your uploads!
I enjoy looking at the Oxford English Dictionary for this very reason. The changes in meaning if fascinating.
I found this to be very interesting. I'm learning something new with each episode of your videos.
Just found your channel a couple months ago, and I’m loving being able to binge watch all your videos! Always so interesting and fun to watch!
2:00 That’s actually the reason why there are so few rubbish bins in Japan. I lived there & frequently return, and it’s a bit of a hassle. There’s a perception in the West that it’s due to recycling or public responsibility etc, however actually until the 1995 sarin gas attacks they had plenty of waste bins just like in other countries. Apparently they were concerned about terrorists putting bombs in them, so most of them were removed. I don’t quite understand the reasoning there, even after asking friends/teachers in the police force there. But there you go.
Wow Dr. Kat! This older video of yours was really insightful, I loved hearing about "trash" in perspective. I do have to leave a very 2024 take: when you were at the part of talking about the anti-theatrical sentiment and how theater, as an art form, had lecherous and feminizing effects on the public (which was dangerous!), I couldn't help but thinking about the modern conservative (at least in the US) push against drag in public places. It is as close-minded and presumptuous and fear-mongering. Great video again! I wonder if you'd consider revisiting this topic, if you had anything else to say about trash in 2024? So thought-provoking.
Am I the only one binge watching and learning so much thank you
That was very interesting and informative. It is nice to know that it is acknowledged that there is nothing wrong "trashy" telly and magazines (in moderation).
I love your videos. They have become a mainstay of quarantine for me and very thought provoking. This video in particular is fascinating, because it's so clear the subject is a passion project for you. Even if you hadn't mentioned your thesis, I would have been intrigued by your clear passion and deep knowledge of the subject. Really timely and resonant. So cool!
This is one of my favorite of your episodes. Truly fascinating.
So happy I found your channel. Loving your analysis 🙌
This is fantastic! Thank you for making this... I know you mostly do public figures now but please do keep talking about these fascinating topics 💛
Dear Dr Kat,
Could you give us a talk about Dr. Roger Ascham, tutor to Elizabeth I?
My daughter goes to a fancy private school named after him ---pronounced "Ass-kam" rather than "Ash-am"--- and over the years, as I have sought more information about him, I have found him increasingly interesting and , am sure he is spinning in his grave, as schools--for girls-- become less academic and more about sports, less about discipline and more about odd notions of socialising and bullying.
Dr. Ascham seemed to take pride in being a good teacher and making sure the girls and young women he taught "knew their stuff" and lived their learning.
Please?
Whoa! I just nothiced the subscriber number. This channel is going through the roof. And rightly so.
Thanks Dr. Kat, I had never thought about cultural trash before. BTW. Expanding some of the material in your thesis into a book?
Wrestling is definitely trash TV. (Although a lot of so-called reality TV is also trash TV.)
I would say that Vogue is rather too high-brow to be trash.
Absolutely Fabulous - a real insight into attitudes toward and in the Theatre. P.S. as a man I think the reason we have tended to sideline women is we know you are inherently superior - men would not allow themselves to become pregnant, carry a ' parasite' for nine months that attempts to kill them, GIVE BIRTH (OW!), tend that infant until they die of old age, and do that multiple times to the extent of regreting that old age prevents them from having another one. INDOMITABLE STRENGTH. We recognize that when that power is unleashed it is almost unstoppable - Boadicea, Elizabeth 1, Joan of Ark etc.
Edward de Vere, 17th Earl of Oxford was my 3rd cousin 11x removed and a fascinating ancestor. Have you, or would you produce an episode devoted to him please. Not much information appears to be available for his mother Margery Golding my 2nd cousin 12x removed so any light you may shed would be immensely appreciated. Thank you.
Thought provoking. Will need to ponder then watch it again.
This was so interesting!
I don't think most people today recognize the power of words. This video brought up several topics that I feel are important today. First being the work by woman being considered trash. It seems we are still often our own worst enemy. Until we can portray ourselves in realistic roles that aren't using sex to gain an upper hand over men we will always be seen as sexual objects and little more. I'm curious how you feel about movies that are rewriting history and portraying women in roles that simply didn't exist? Netflix has a movie, whose name I can't remember, but it was a period movie about the War of 1812. In it the Americans were demonized, while the British and Mohawks were glorified. After a battle a group of American soldiers were lost in the woods trying to get back to camp. They encountered Mohawks and fought and killed all, but one woman. They then show her shaving her head and preparing to battle the group of men, which by this time I believe were three. She succeeds in hunting them down and then beating them in hand to hand combat, an absolute absurdity, It's feminist propaganda on top of racial hate, demonizing the white man and trying to shame us into denying our pasts. There is no mention of the British involvement in capturing American ships and soldiers. There is no mention of the British policies being what set the standard for treatment of natives. It's simply anti-white, pro-woman with zero attention to historical accuracy.Britain and America were mother and child having a final battle of wills, nothing more, nothing less. As a woman I find it disgusting that we're portrayed as physical equals to men and that there is no celebration of the strong women often behind the scenes who had a hand in creating history. It's dumbing down the children of today and seems to be an attempt at shaming us over our countries histories and policies that we as nation's would never condone today. Why can't people accept history as it was and understand that those men built the world we live in today. Without those men and their woman the world would not exist as we know it. Today we have a former black president who works behind the scenes at Netflix retelling our histories with the conquered and less empowered being the victors and the ones who actually created history being the villian. History is not always pretty. If we rewrite the past we lose the amazing women and "minorities" that worked so hard to create equality and fairness. We skip entire lessons on why we fight so hard for equality still today. The fight was often brutal, bloody, and oppressive. Can we disagree with their treatments of indigenous people? Sure. Can we hate that women were basically third class citizens? Sure. Can we allow the truth to be altered because it hurts someone's feelings? No. The American feminist movement seeks to elevate woman off the backs of men while forgetting where we come from. We don't study the movements our sisters created. We simply think men and women can and should be able to do the same jobs. There's no thought process, no critical thinking applied,no appreciation for how far they brought us. It's become dangerous. Example, jobs as firemen require a test of physical strength. Women were incapable of passing the test so the standards were lowered, thereby potentially compromising the safety of society. Is that what equality is all about? Instead of focusing on our brilliance or enriching our strengths as women we're taught to be equal to a man we must be a man. I don't apologize if people are offended because I simply do not care anymore. The past is the past and can no longer hurt anyone. Changing it takes away the motivation to keep moving forward and trying to do better.
I am an American woman. I do think of wrestling on TV is trashy. Also, Duck Dynasty and other entertainment featuring men. Trashy
Interesting thesis! 🌞
Making the observation that, in Britain, the word “rubbish” is used for the same physical refuse that Americans use the word “trash”. It is my understanding that the use of the word trash in Britain, at least in past, was a base level below common rubbish and an adverse word to use, there.
Would you please do a program on the corsette? I have seen so many conflicting opinions on this subject. Were they harmful or not?
There's a difference between everyday corsetry and tight lacing. You should check out Bernadette Banner here on TH-cam. She research and recreates historical garments. Here's a link to her video on Victorian era corsets: th-cam.com/video/5QUEf-8BKyE/w-d-xo.html
This history living theatrical scenic artist particularly enjoyed your discussion of trash. Thank you.
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I always read trash as meaning something small and/or of little account or importance. FHM and football certainly fit either
I echo a comment below asking for a video about Christopher Marlow
My question is - Is Heywood's defense that theater exists to "contain trash" necessarily the defense everyone who was involved with theater, or supported it, would've had? I can't help but wonder if some, while not admitting it to be bad or harmful, would've simply seen it as lighthearted entertainment. Heywood's defense also seems to revolve around the idea that theater exists to promote good morals and enforce the status quo, and you certainly see those ideas in Early Modern plays, but I think you also see writers like Shakespeare and Marlowe using theater to question the status quo at times. Naturally they had to be subtle about it (or at least have a certain level of deniability), but it's very obvious in some of their works and also calls into question whether Heywood speaks for all of them, I think.
Huh? I would have described the wrestling shows and to some extent Top Gear as trash TV.
I am wondering about the noble’s attitude toward women, if Shakespeare was, as rumored, a noble perhaps supported this mindset. It is interesting since Queen Elizabeth was ruling. Am I reaching for it? It seems to me male dominance in every aspect was key. Women, in general, were considered property for eons. The various biographies of strong women in court and society are intriguing, but, even they were precarious. On the other hand, perhaps not allowing women to be viewed on stage was a means of protecting. Although, actors and actresses only recently have garnered esteem socially in the span of human history. I digress. I enjoyed your discussion.
I think we're thinking about this backwards. I think it's problematic that acknowledged trash TV is being marketed towards women whilst the assumed audience of educational and respectable content is men.
Women are a big part of the audience and creators of such great content. The assumption that women primarily want to see trash and don't have a thirst for learning is something I find deeply insulting.
And there is trash TV such as Top Gear and reality TV shows targeted towards men too. Yet the trashiness of this content is given less notice. And that is the problem I think you may be getting at.
20:00 this is exactly what the Egyptian actors and actresses around 2010 alleged to be their goal when they were asked about the racy scenes in their movies.
This was fabulous!
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We are still at their mercy
Well, never a doctor will I make, concision and succinct-ion are my friends. and that's my comfort zone for now.
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I'm trash so this video speaks to me
Lol I think I have fuzzy historians here lol
It’s the men’s place, the plays were financed by men
history of trash ans guilty pleasures
Women had no place in the Guilds
Arguably, no magazine is more trashy than porn, same with film. Trashy advertising? Hello, Axe Body Spray lol.
Because the Bible states that we are the Original sin and have been forever chattel. Beware of anything feminine!
Actually it doesn't. Romans 5:12 clearly states that sin entered the world thru one man. If you study all the references to Adam and Eve thru out the Bible there is a picture that Adam knowingly sinned, Eve was deceived into sin.