Horizon Zero Dawn - The Heart of the Nora: Aloy "First You Shun Me Now This" Tribe Dialogue Cutscene
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This pretty much feels like you being shunned by your family and then when you become rich and famous they love you.
If I don't die soon, that's what's going to happen to me.
Exactly. I hate these kind of fake people.
Beta would have killed them all XD
I already loved Aloy BUT THIS scene made me love her more, as she was saying what I was thinking, I was cheering for her calling out the Nora
I agree, Aloy is one of my favorite protagonists in gaming. Guerilla Games has something special with her going forward. Thanks for the comment BigGeek2256
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@@biggeek2256 lets see the sequel
1) The Nora's symbol looks kinda like a uterus.
2) Aloy's face looks prettier in this one.
@@jasonbelstone3427
1. I do believe it's on purpose
2. That all comes down to preference
This is why I love Aloy so much. So often in games, shows, etc, characters hold their tongue while I’m shouting at the TV, begging them to say what we all want them to say. What everyone needs to hear them say. I cheered when Aloy called them all out. It was so powerful.
Me too! But I was kind of hoping she would say that their goddess is but part of the Metal World they so despise
This has got to be one of the most amazing scenes in this game, she said what we were all thinking but couldn’t quite put into words
Honestly, I'd be outraged, too.
"They are no longer your people to save." As someone once told me before I tore him apart.
I'm pretty sure everyone would be
One of my favorite scenes.
I love that Teersa, out of the three leaders, doesn't use any prefects nor does she immediately bow down to Aloy. She talks with her directly and seems to be aware that, for as monumental as what's going on in front of her is, Aloy is still young and overwhelmed by everything. She also understands the hypocrisy of the tribe in their actions here, but knows that now isn't the time for some sort of reformation. They need to use Aloy's newfound power in the tribe to get everyone on board and focused for the upcoming fight.
Kinda wish we could've spoken to Teersa and told her about GAIA and Zero Dawn; of all the Nora, she seems like she could've handled the truth.
@@HowlingWolf518 maybe in the 3rd game!
@@erinocelotl3578 Eh, we can hope so.
@@HowlingWolf518 I think so, because they have to return to the sacred lands considering it wasn't in forbidden west, and there's got to be some part that includes Sona since (I mean spoilers alert idk) Varl's death. And they're setting up the idea that they're trying to get everyone to have focuses and just be aware of what's going on to be able to fight nemesis, so the Nora will probably be included in that. Basically I just think it's very likely lol
@@erinocelotl3578 _Maybe,_ but it's also possible that we end up in the East Coast or even Asia (the Quen). I mean, now that there's flyable mounts and surprise clones and an evil AI from Sirius, all bets are off, right?
I love this scene for some reason
Well yeah, she calls them out on being hypocritical sacks of shit.
There's so many layers to this scene. Her translating what's happened into a religion that she doesn't believe in yet isn't completely detached from reality and she's suddenly a central figure. Her wrestling with the weight of what she learnt and it sinking in what she has to do - remember, she was focused in the previous scene on the implications on her parentage and you somewhat get the impression that the implications of GAIA's mission didn't sink in until here - followed by accepting the burden placed upon her. Her being both accepted by the tribe and yet immediately distanced by their worship and her utter rejection of this. Her declaration of how she wasn't doing it for the Nora but for everyone. In three minutes, she goes through all of these emotions, all of these thoughts, and you see it played out in brilliant animation and vocal works. Throw in how the crowd evolves, throw in the payoff of blue-orange contrast, throw in the way the music evolves (listen for the cello as she declares there's more than just the Nora followed by how the music adjusts again when Teersa once again leads), it's an incredibly complex and beautiful scene.
@@forgottenfamily freaking Ashley did a hell of a job there...
Me too.
ALOY: Would all please listen? I am NOT the Messiah!
NORA: SHE IS THE MESSIAH!
PLEASE 😭
Only the *true* Messiah would deny her divinity.
Lisan al gaib female version
This is where I totally feel in love with the game and her character. The village kept shunning her, and she doesn't owe them anything, but only has a purpose of her own to help them.
Neither she became the person to burn the village to feel it's warmth, but just told them she'll never truely be one of theirs as she knows the treatment they gave her. She just remained focused on her purpose and never used herself and her stature as a way to control people.
This is why I really enjoy Aloy. She should be the textbook example for strong female characters. She avoids being a Mary Sue brilliantly.
Aloy was an outcast from birth and she actually calls people out on mistreating her and doesn't roll over.
They only change tune because she's the "chosen one" and she hates it.
When she got lost in the ruins she showed intuition. A thing that saved people. Avoiding the machines as a kid was due to a tool not because "she was just that good".
But when she saw means to improve herself she wasn't heaped with gifts. She earned everything with hard work. Even parts of her equipment she made.
A less thought out character would have been widely beloved immediately.
Or would have been given the focus because she was "chosen" as a child.
Everything earned she struggles, tries and succeeds.
Imo this is probably the one time aloy shows raw emotion. Other than this part she’s pretty much your typical main character. But u are right this is how they should do female characters
I think she is a mary sue by the common definition that she can do everything. Compassionate, combative, prodigious with her skills, and everybody besides the Nora lover her. And that is OK. A lot of stories pull off the hyper competent protagonist easily. I think the more accurate and useful definition of mary sue is one that unrealistically warp everyone's characterization around her.
So like Rei was probably not a mary sue UNTIL she met Han Solo who had to regress into a smuggler and contradict his character growth into a war hero in order to become her supporting cast
@@yiklongtay6029 how is she a Mary Sue when it literally shows u at the beginning of the game rost training her. I get that aloy can be generic sometimes but she’s definitely nowhere near a Mary Sue
@@Nightlizard1564 Mary sue is less concerned about origins and justifications of powers. Most discourse focus on how they do not have any current flaws or shortcomings. Even if you throw as many training montages towards young Rei before the events of E7, people will still regard her function in the plot as a mary sue
@@Nightlizard1564 Yeah, but it's a montage. Would you be interested in knowing more about how long it took (about 6 years) for Aloy to get to that mature point as a learning experience, or would you just want to skedaddle right to the gameplay?
If you chose the latter, it means you don't really care for Aloy's character, and just want to go on a adventure with an independent woman.
And the game knows this. That's why it sells.
If you ever found yourself saying in video games, "come onnnn, I get it. She's strong. Let's just get to the game," it means you don't care for a character deeper than that. You _have to_ admit that.
Mary Sues don't cry. They don't do that. Ew. And they can never be wrong. They automatically know everything.
The game immediately jumps right into Aloy being able to do "anything and everything" because catering to "strong and independent" women, is what's truly important for the game's -earnings- uh, success.
I love how this just boils down to her saying "Bitch dufuqu. Ya treat me like shit then love me because I'm the chosen one, imma save the world anyways but fuck you guys!"
This was my favorite moment of the game and a watershed moment for Aloy. Her whole life these people have treated her like garbage just because of the insignificant fact she had no mother. Now they treat her like a god now that they know what she really is but she doesn’t want their respect and she doesn’t save them because it was her reason for being born, she saves them because it’s the right thing to do. Aloy doesn’t have a mean bone in her body. She treats everyone with respect, kindness and dignity
I love how this game portrays religion, like Aloy entering the cradle facility was the equivalent of God’s revelations in the Bible and Quran to the Nora. Their god is a door.
Yes exept ther idea of ther god ar based on the truthbmeaning some of apolos knewledge survied
@@SkyLightKey were you on drugs when you typed this?
Well technically there god is the multiserver robot in cradle facility but it's powered down
@@SkyLightKey If you look through the Cradle facility you'll see that the religions of the Nora and Carja originate from the experiences of the children birthed there.
I have just got to this point in the game, it's my best scene. I didn't run or fast travel, I just walked on the path they created. It felt so so so good. I don't know if there can be a better scene in this game. I hope I am wrong. I gladly pre-ordered forbidden west after this
I believe fast travel is disabled while this quest is active; the devs _want_ you to feel it.
Dandave how was HFW? For me , it sure was mind blowing
It's a world worth fighting for
Underrated line really. After everything she’s learned, the atrocities the Carja have committed, the cruelty of the Shadow Carja, and the Nora too her, she still believed in mankind, still saw the good in this world even after everything’s she’s been through.
This is my favourite line from this game.
That’s what i call a monologue lel
aloy is awesome. that speech was powerful.
If you think about it, to the Nora Aloy is basically a demigod.
Aloy could have said _"the goddess told me to tell you not to bow to me"_ and they would've obeyed it without question.
I think Aloy is better than this.
Aloy is humble
She sorta did this, accidentally. In the prompt-dialogue w/ Lansra immediately after this, Aloy tells her to shut her mouth, and Lansra's remaining responses are all, "Mmmph, MMMMmmph!"
She wouldn't resort to that.
I was playing this game in the living room and then when they said all praise Aloy and started bowing down to her my dad walked in and he said what the Hell are you playing? And I said The scene requires context Dad but the story is really good I swear.
Should have turned at the end and said
“She has a name you know - All Mother. Her name is Gaia”
I also expected something like that, that at least they knew that the goddess of their religion has a name; Gaia.
She reminds me of Naruto when it comes to getting shunned by other people
Right? No one told either of them exactly why they were being shunned and full grown adults hurled abusive words at them when they were only children.
Though Naruto 100% would’ve pretended to be a god given the chance lol
1:27 at this moment even Resh feels for Aloy
Unfortunately if you talk to him afterwards, he claims that the God sucks for choosing Aloy and that he's leaving.
I totally understand her anger. However, I would have continued the whole "I'm a god" shtick and was the ruler of the tribes.
This is how she reacts to beikng called a character that Breaks Stereotypen.
1:19 amd 1:25 I felt that
1:25-1:26 Look at the Resh
Yeah, I thought he was looking at Aloy with admiration and that maybe he would forgive her later, but if you talk to him after the cutscene he’s still pretty cold and hard. It was a good opportunity for some character development that was skipped
@@atlantis720 I think what we got is better. Just goes to show how prideful a person can be
@@cvxgaming6855 I guess so. I just thought he had honor or something
@@atlantis720 I completely agree. Resh could've had some development there
I legit cried didn't know y it was sad lol
I can relate to what u said
It's such an insignificant detail but that lip lick at 1:26 goes to show how much went 8into making these phenominal scenes.
"I don't belong to you!"
-Aloy to the PlayStation fanboys who got mad over HZD's PC release
You must be an Xbox fanboy
@@atlantis720 Far from it. I grew up on PlayStation but I moved to PC. I'd love to get a PS5 as soon as stock normalizes.
@@bluesrike funny as hell💀 I hope the next Horizon is a true next gen game so we could ride more machines and I wish the terrible pop ins in Zero Dawn is solved
@@cvxgaming6855 I think that's what they're going for. And I'm willing to accept the possibility that it'll be a PS5 exclusive with an extremely slim chance of making it to the PC if it means they can overcome technical limitations that cause the texture pop-ins.
Did someone actually get mad at that? Thats só stupid lol I love playstation and I also play on the computer and I think horizon being on pc is just a better way for more people to enjoy it
Greatest game ever made right up there with zelda
This just shows how fickle religion and tradition can be
I really wanted Aloy to just come out and say 'there's no god, you've been worshiping a door your entire lives.'
Tim Nergaard she kinda did, if you choose the right dialogue she says something like “It’s not a goddess, it’s a door”
“Newly atheist, college age girl returns her to religious community and tells them their god doesn’t exit” is an appropriate title for HZD
It really makes you think how baffling and dumb irl religions are. If you scoffed at how much the Nora praised All-Mother, chances are the same bs is happening on Earth too
Translating into hood English: nigga you wanted to catch these hands now you see me. ……..
And you SCARED
Meanwhile, Paul Atreides: I am not-
Lorgar: *_LISAN AL-GAIB._*
😂
i honestly wanted more of her blowing the minds of the tribe with old tech but there is very little of that in the game sadly
They did Aloy so right
1:11 - 1:58
Everything of Aloy screams for vengeance and everyone is completely disposable to her. This scene is proof.
This scene... it can be applied in so many social ways. My mother, who is Indigenous, who dared to speak of progress and change. Me, a POC and gay, who was considered unworthy of both the Tribes and the LGBTQIA+ Community... I DON'T BELONG TO YOU! Exactly. Aloy speaks to the Individual amidst tribes. She speaks a Truth that no one wants to hear. Not Progressives. Not Conservatives. No Political "Tribe." She speaks to the greater human experience. The experience that binds us all. What links us to pain and joy. To trauma and healing. Something this modern world of politics and internet cliques doesn't want to hear. People who are just as good as us all. A world worth fighting for...
Up! Up! lmao best moment
Name of the score?
You just cant knock a character who spends the whole game reacting to things in almost the same way as you. It's just great writing, most negative opinions of aloy are jsut people who dont like the character as a person. And people like to complain about the animation I nthis gams but its phenominal in the mocapped cutscenes.
Zero Dawn is truly an amazing game it's very disappointing to see Guerilla ruining the series
How are they ruining it?
lmao its like she's telling PlayStation players that there are many other good tribes other than you "pc gamers" and they are just as good as you. the world is in danger (because gaming is in danger, only PlayStation players have the best of the games).
Don't let any xboy hear that lol
@@Donts_blackwell in this case Xbox players are the eclipse
God. The dialoge and facial animations are terrible in this game
Dude, they are in large part what made this game so unique back in the day. It really raised the bar engine and story wise. It's a true system seller.
@@saladspinner3200 lol wut. Thr game had good graphics and decent combat. That's what made it successfull. Not the mediocre storyline and the trash facial animations
Salad Spinner I’m with the other guy, the animation in this game is garbage.
@@teehundeart I gotta admit, once the scale of the whole Backstory becomes clear... I hadn't been that intrigued since HL2. I even teared up at the end.
teehundeart wth the dialogue and the facial animations are amazing in this game. don’t confuse hzd with fortnite