honestly, frankly speaking every aespa performance is lacking. wether it be the mma performance to the kbs song festival one, it honestly feels like a normal music bank performance (dont get me started with the dance break in the mma performance i hated that so much.) but instead of directing unnecessary hate towards the girls we should give them more support so that they can improve even more. hate isnt always the best way to do things. lets hope with the amazing music we get amazing performances too.
The only toxic person here is you because you are denying their weaknesses instead of actually adressing them and pointing them out. A real non-toxic fan would admit when an idol arent doing their job properly...
@@fatalposiie You know how it’s hate lol I’m not going to sit here and argue with someone who thinks calling someone a flop, untalented, stiff and unworthy aren’t hate. The only people who would defend kpop Stan’s on twitter must be an avid user themselves
In my honest opinion that performance wasn‘t really perfect but yeah people were too harsh. Although its honestly no surprise as Mys are actually the most insufferable people in the kpop community, ofc ppl will return the treatment mys give their groups. And Im saying this as someone who has Twitter, god THOSE mys are actually so annoying
@@cherryblossom1267 As I said, it is a constant back and forth. It didnt just start yesterday or sth, aespa as a group got a lot of hate from random netizens and that made the fandom so toxic…. I never meant to say the hate is justified btw I just meant that its no surprise this is happening
Not every performance have to be perfect and they are human so they can get tired, sick or something happen to them and it not easy when you have to flight in and out from the country to another place to perform and promoted their schedule is so tight. Thank you to all kpop idol to entertain all fans❤❤❤
I’m gonna give my perspective as someone who ULTS æspa. æspa has surely improved on their stage presence and they’re way better than before but they lack consistency and that’s one of their main issues and a good number of their recent performances have been underwhelming but to say they looked lifeless on stage is just a plain lie. MYS need to stop attacking other groups and even if æspa was perfect(which they’re not) it doesn’t give you the right to go around spreading hate to others especially when you know æspa went through so much of that in the past like it’s just very Hypocritical of y’all and now other fandoms are quick to bash æspa cause y’all are quick to bash their favs unprovoked. Let’s all just do better.
@ It’s obvious that they’re tired cause this is the most they’ve practically ever done in their careers but it still doesn’t change the fact they still need to improve and they’ll get there but SM needs to play into their strengths more
But that rule only applies to aespa right? That they shouldnt be bashed because they recieved SO MUCH hate. Other groups like illit and le sserafim deserve hate because they're weak in vocals?... its always okay unless its le sserafim and illit... and whats crazy is that aespa is the one out of ill it and le sserafim that shouldve gotten the most hate because they've been the industry longer...
@@markiesway How did you get all of this from my comment ? I literally ULT ILLIT and I’ve been defending them from MYS left and right so I really don’t get your reply like did you even read my comment ? I literally said MYS should stop attacking other groups and the top groups that came to my mind when I made that comment were ILLIT and LE SSERAFIM
@@markiesway How did you get all of this from my comment ? I literally ULT ILLIT and I’ve been defending them from MYS left and right. I literally said MYS should stop attacking other groups and the main groups that came to my mind when typed that were LE SSERAFIM and ILLIT like did you even read my comment before replying ?
yall calling mys the worst fandoms but where were you guys during the aespa hate train before spicy era?? the fandoms who are hating aespa are the same ones who contributed to the 2021-2022 hate train. fearnots and mys used to be sisters fandoms until lsfm got really popular with antifragile, got so much streams and they were singing live apparently so some hate tweets from fearnots went viral. Itzy being bffs with aespa and midzys were one of the 1st fandoms to contribute to the hate train back in 2022 but sure let's blame mys. wish yall did the same during pre spicy era.
Tbh, since aespa was introduced, Korean media said that this group is very promising, "some" fandoms felt threatened and their debut was one of the most successful yet very hated. But guess what, everyone seems to be only focusing on MYs giving the SAME energy back. The double standard is just annoying. Mainly it was midzys (felt threatened) and armies (when next level outcharted butter, they lost their minds) and blinks (never ending saga) and also fearnots, they are straight up disgusting so let's not talk about them. But their eyes are only on MYs wow.
Agree or not their fandom is the main problem! Mys are always first when it comes to hating and harassing other groups...they always on everyone's business and always the first fandom to hop on trolling bullying honestly what were they expecting??
First of all every fandom has toxic ppl you targeting THE WHOLE FANDOM in general is not so nice. At least we don't send anti trucks to our own artists. You should check more about WHAT A TOXIC FANDOM ACTUALLY IS!
Please mys this year have been more than toxic , looking down other groups , joining bunnies to hate Illit and le sserafim especially cheawon, and making fun of other fandoms and their favs, that's why aespa is getting a lot of heat bcuz y'all started it@@sugar5195
@@sugar5195 DO NOT DENY CRAP GIRL!!! Mys are TOXIC AND SHAMELESS!!!! You not only bully 4th gen groups like stray kids, itzy, g-idle and the rest but you all also bully innocent newly debuted 5th gen groups that isn't too farmilair with the kpop world yet. I mean, how will a group that just debuted starts getting hated by a particular in secured fandom because that's how I feel Mys are. Aespa are doing well in charts and receiving numerous awards but why do Mys like feeling arrogant for that and bullying ioher groups, are they afraid a time will come when new groups will steal the spotlight from aespa that's why they now result to bullying innocent rookie idols that still need their company to guide them through the industry? Geez!
What a Toxic fandom actually is!! Oh really mys protested and went extreme to an extent that karina had to apologise publicly, mys dragged sunghoon all over the internet for not dancing in an tiktok and these are just recent things.. even aespa isnt save from thier own fandom mys always set them up if u cant digest anything against your favs u have no right to harass other groups online..
The huge backlash's bc of how loud their fans are when it comes to dragging other artists. People here don't seem to know how insufferable t/wt mys are. And anyways,Aespa girls def lack in sp and they need to work on that
To be honest they all lack in dance skills. In my opinion some of the dance breaks don’t compliment there concept style making it seem more complex and messy. Vocal wise the girls are powerhouses as for stage presence they have defiantly gotten better over the past years.
Y'all calling mys the most insufferable fandom in the kpop community when literally every kpop fandom has its significant number of insufferable, delusional, pathetic fans. This hate train is actually benefitting the group lol.
Their performancr wasnt bad at all, honestly the cameraman wasnt doing their job here and cut out karina and winters last part. I feel like I am not watching the same performance, because that was pretty good, although I do think that winter was a little stiff, but couldnt even see her well.
what funnier is, ppl who are contributing to this were the same ones who gagged over their post spicy performances. you'll literally see comments on their drama, armageddon, supernova, mma2023, mama2024, festivals performances "OMGGG AESPA BEST PERFORMERS." even all of yall ranked their mma2023 stage begin the best among everyone but now since, they're finally in a controversy yall thought "let me hate too." your favs companies voted them to be the artist of the year which included the big4 + starship so yeah stay mad and you'll get another mma2023 soon ^^
@thanoscoloured_mf YES...and why are you so messed up to think that's strange...people are capable of following multiple groups. I defend any group against wrong minded nonsense
Brainrot twitter stans always find ways to hate Aespa ....but all of them devoured the stage yes it might not be their best performance but it was not medicore .....It was good and enjoyable
im sorry but it was HORRIBLE. aespa need to improve they have so much potential (especially ningning) also SM makes them lipsync all the time so thats also a way that a hate train can be started. good music ≠ good performances
Im not a hybe fan neither am i on twitter I don't even follow any hybe grps but mys have been attcking every artists unprovoked (even their own idols lmao) so ig this serves them right. I feel bad for aespa for having such fans
Never in my life gonna take Twitter kpop stans seriously (especially if it concerns aespa). People there are always very quick to judge and hate on everybody. Anyways, that being said, we cant deny the fact that the girls improved so much since debut, they haven't reached their full potential yet so lets encourage them to do more !
Four years after debut and they haven't reached their full potential yet or THEY HAVE NO POTENTIAL OF STAGE PRESENCE AT ALL😂😂😂 If It was another group will you Mys say the same thing. You all bash and bully other grps at the slightest but when its aespa, you all blame Sm, toxic fans from other groups, stylists or even the backup dancers that saved their entire performance😂
@FavourOkafor-d9d first of all, u seem to be veryyyy interested with aespa. U can join the fandom atp. 😂 Second, speaking of sp, u clearly haven't watched their performances at Mama, MMA, KGMA, TIktok (?) ... To say the least, they killed it ! And everyone praised them for it (Knets even said that mama 2024 was carried by big bang and aespa) Third, oh so u hv problems with the fandom and instead of calling these people out, no, u pour ur hatred on the artist. Not very nice of you, I must say. Fourth, the girls are living their best lives atm, they genuinely dont care about u so get a life .
@@-xtfyfdtsearxstdgworl, im a MY but the mma performance was like a music bank performance.. winters expressions saved tho + i havent seen ANY ppl saying aespa carried mama but rather another girlgroup which i am not gonna mention cause its not the time.
@@seleneluvsidle pretty pp + then u definitely missed a lot cuz in mama everyone agreed they ate (to say the least). Other gg did well too. + the mma performance was NOT like any regular music bank. The whole intro, the armageddon dance break, the paint in winter neck and the back up dancers were all a huge plus. Tbh I dont think I should take u seriously cuz of how inaccurate ur description is.
Everyone can always improve but at the same time it's clear that since aespa already are good singers, improved a lot in dance and stage presence, and had a wonderful succesful year with their songs, people are trying to find something little to bash them. (Edit the people down there even denying their vocals skills are just proving my point 🤷🏻♀️ aespa will improve again in what they lack but most of you are just jealous and it shows)
Tbh it’s mostly cos Aespa fandom (my) has been on every hating energy for different groups & always comparing while trashing other groups… and that just puts the girls on the spot.. I do believe it’s wrong to retaliate but those comments are actually mild compared to the ones I’ve seen with mys bashing other artists this year (whether it be a collab with an Aespa member or without a collab).. The girls are human and SM has been overworking them this year in my opinion, they’re bound to get tired at some point.
@@ayomide8104 so because SOME people in a fandom were wrong and did wrong instead of calling them out you think it's right to bash the girls? What logic is that? We don't attack artists because the fans are bad, not even the most popular one
I understand where they’re coming from, but let’s also remember that aespa had almost no breaks this year. They had 2 come backs and 1 japanese single debut.
I’m saying these girls have been packed and busy literally they had a tour not to long ago and that was during Armageddon era which once again not long ago
@Jalal10795 But itzy has better stamina and have been great performers since debut, aespa however weren’t good performers at the beginning. going from being mediocre to good in a few years will take toll on your body because you aren’t used to it yet. I’m not a MY and neither am I a Midzy, but I can still differentiate the group’s talents. Itzy is a performance group and aespa is a vocal group, there will be a big difference between their performances.
@Jalal10795 wasn't lia on hiatus for a few months or more, and itzy was mia for quite a long time, and had one comback only, and it's like very recent too. They didn't perform in uni fests, kgma or even mama etc so wdyem?
Let's be honest, even if Aespa had improved stage presence, they still lack it as compared to other groups. They gotta work on that. This was one of the reasons, their Coachella was criticized. They don't seem that interesting on stage even if they have amazing vocals and dance moves.
Mys set up aespa so bad. They’re always hating on other groups, like what did you expect. But let’s be honest aespa has always been lacking in dance and stage presence. Their choreographies aren’t even hard either and their lip syncing. My thing is if your going to lip sync you better be a damn good dancer and have some enthusiasm on stage while your performing
Honestly This show performances is definitely mid and average maybe due to some hectic schedules They seems stiff in dancing.Sometimes critisism doesn't mean HATE I watched there performance of mama and mma they were good But One thing aespa still lacks through out the years STAGE PRESENCE They can sing,Dance,Rap But There performances Lacks THAT Aura which automatically captures evryone heart's.Its my personal opinion So Those who don't agree or like this can easily ignore this i am not forcing anyone to accept this..
agreed 👍🏻 image a girl group who debuted 4 years ago still struggles with stage presence this is their weak point while their vocals are their strong point
@Iqra-j8c If they weren't good then why do they sell out their concerts? You can criticize them all you want, but at the end of the day, your opinions don't matter
Aespa is giving non stop performance. They need proper rest. And this was performance were winter nearly tripped by her long sleeve. If people want aespa better in sp, then let them rest well first and recharge their energy.
The thing is mys r saying that this year the didnt have any time to relax when they only released 2 songs and a Japanese comeback like even karina herself said that they have plenty of time and most idols r lying and shes the top in Homescapes (in korea ) Like look at itzy they released two mini albums and they went on a world tour but they still gave an amazing performance In the end if u guys r calling them the 4th gen leaders if they rlly r 4yh gen leaders then y arent they performing well or is 4th gen leaders only considered by releasing good songs?
"They only released two songs and a Japanese comeback" 💀 Do u ever get ur facts checked before opening ur mouth or do you just speak for the sake of speaking ? Next time get ur facts checked.
or maybeee the BIG articles and korea called them 4th gen leaders? recently aespa were elected to be the artist of the year by the BIG3 + starship & TBL. yk that these companies have powerful ppl. "2 songs and a japanese cb" yeah and what about the GIGS for magazines? stages? tours? you won't know that, your fav tanked.
your itzy has almost nothing to do. 2 minis, world tours, some gigs. meanwhile aespa has 1 FULL album, 1 jpn album, 1 mini album, TOURS, FESTIVALS, SOLO gigs, GROUP gigs, 37282992 stages. lol like itzy weren't even invited to most awards and festivals. If you think your favs are 4th gen leaders just because they have good performances then go out and touch grass. aespa : supernova with 300 paks, 700 raks, million sales, whiplash still charting on top 3 winning soty, aoty being elected as the aoty by BIG3, starship, TBL supernova being selected by MAJOR articles as the best kpop song of 2024 going viral members going viral karina solo rak most streamed album of 2024 by a gg most streamed song by a gg in 2024 6 awards in a row 3 daesangs in a row groups who did these were bts, njwns and ive. your itzy tanked in 2022 and its been like that since then. lia still sucks btw but it doesn't matter, she was on a hiatus. however aespa being sick is ignored.
People saying that its bcuz of mys behaviour .. so instead of calling toxic people out, no, u pour ur hatred on the girls ? Not so nice. Just admit that y'all were waiting for the slightest mistake to criticize and hate on these beautiful girls, who dgaf about you.
I don't care about dancing as long as they do their REAL JOB (SINGING) accurately Edit: I can't stop laughing lol. A jobless toddler yapping under my comment 💀
Toxic MY's please don't try to become blinks 2.0.....................be grateful as we are being fed with aespa's content lately and the girls have been working hard........... pls be respectful to all fandoms and idols.............let's not comment about aespa on other group's videos cause that is just disrespectful and stop hating on lesserafim and illit !!!! leave them alone if you don't like their music duhhh....... aespa members are probably friends with these groups while yall have fanwars with their fandoms............stop acting like professional vocal coaches when you aren't...............if you stay respectful to other fans they will be respectful too (in most cases)
I understand what they are saying the grp does look stiff during the dance break and the perfomance was fine not perfect but people are being too harsh and the dance break choreo is just bad but for the choreo the blame goes to the choreographer but ngl all there award show perfomances are bland and its all bc sm doesn't give them any good dancebreaks or a good intro
Its that time of the year where the toxic kpop fans with no lives try to squeeze in some last minute hate and toxicity just before the New Year. Nothing new and definitely expected. Their words are meaningless.
This is totally fair because if blackpink was doing this you guys would tear them down I mean really the criticism is constructing they are stiff and they arent synchronised the dance moves are horrible
I love aespa but please stop with the excuses they seem to be doing this for attention or genuinely wasnt at their best. Y'all will defend anything and accept no type of criticism when it comes to idols.
I can’t say I disagree. The performance did leave me pretty disappointed. They’ve gotten better over the years, but stage presence/dance is still easily their weakest area and they aren’t very consistent a lot of the time.
Not all Idols have outstanding talent and Stage presence you can see at Concerts who was born for it these Idols are rare, sorry for saying this but the Star in aespa are the Producers.
aespas really talented, and past performances are evidence. probably one of the best 4th gen girl groups in terms of talent. they were probably just exhausted during that one.
@@skz.hyumpling I’m sorry I promise I don’t hate aespa I literally stan them but I’m very unbiased..saying they’re the most talented gg in 4th gen, when the only thing they excel in is vocals…Their s.p did improve but it’s still weak, their dance..if I’m not mistaken karina is the weakest main dancer in 4th gen, Giselle is the only decent rapper and in vocals they’re top tier. But don’t get me wrong they’re pretty talented but just not the most talented in their gen, and they’re still improving But if that’s your opinion then I respect it and I won’t argue
@@MIDZYSTAYinginMOAsATINYENGENE i said one of the best, also personally i think their dance is good and they've improved a lot compared to their debut.
TBH Aespa has never had stage presence and they always look stift whilst dancing since their debut and that's why they got bashed a lot during their rookie days but they're slowly improving compared to then
@@ananyabasak8006 the greatest joke I heard today, look up university performances of itzy, of any year, they're having the most intense choreo plus song stably live, plus, have you heard imaginary friend yet?
The performance is totally SM's fault. They should've given them proper choreography for the dancebreak first. And did no one really warn the girls when they were practicing their dance? They're not in sync at all, was there really no one telling them that their timing wasn't right??? This isn't anything difficult at all, it's nothing that couldn't be fixed if someone told them. What does SM spend the money earned through aespa on if not for something this basic???
respectfully i do not respect your opinion🥰🥰😘😘 cause aespa aren't terrible even though they do not frequently sing live when they do they sound amazing and their stage presence might not be the best but it's not terrible especially after 2 back to back comebacks , tour and 1 japanese release they need a break...........and if your standards are that high (which i once had too but in this new era there is no one at the level of 2nd/3rd gen idols.....) then listen to those groups who fit your standards and appreciate their talent don't even bother to comment about aespa especially if you think they are terrible..............
@@myaespaholic Aespa are terrible whether you like it or not.... The fifth generation sings much better than Aespa, what the hell are you talking about?
honestly, frankly speaking every aespa performance is lacking. wether it be the mma performance to the kbs song festival one, it honestly feels like a normal music bank performance (dont get me started with the dance break in the mma performance i hated that so much.) but instead of directing unnecessary hate towards the girls we should give them more support so that they can improve even more. hate isnt always the best way to do things. lets hope with the amazing music we get amazing performances too.
Of course it’s twitter every fandom on there is toxic and annoying
Whats toxic about what they said?
The only toxic person here is you because you are denying their weaknesses instead of actually adressing them and pointing them out. A real non-toxic fan would admit when an idol arent doing their job properly...
@ be serious you’re over here acting like the tweets were criticism when it was straight hate and bandwagoning
@@babyanie4673 How is it hate? Answer the questions.
@@fatalposiie You know how it’s hate lol I’m not going to sit here and argue with someone who thinks calling someone a flop, untalented, stiff and unworthy aren’t hate. The only people who would defend kpop Stan’s on twitter must be an avid user themselves
In my honest opinion that performance wasn‘t really perfect but yeah people were too harsh. Although its honestly no surprise as Mys are actually the most insufferable people in the kpop community, ofc ppl will return the treatment mys give their groups. And Im saying this as someone who has Twitter, god THOSE mys are actually so annoying
Exactly you are 100% correct mys always put aespa at spot and yeah the perfomance was mediocre
then I hope you also noticed that it's the same fandoms who were contributing to the aespa hate train before spicy.
@@cherryblossom1267 As I said, it is a constant back and forth. It didnt just start yesterday or sth, aespa as a group got a lot of hate from random netizens and that made the fandom so toxic…. I never meant to say the hate is justified btw I just meant that its no surprise this is happening
Not every performance have to be perfect and they are human so they can get tired, sick or something happen to them and it not easy when you have to flight in and out from the country to another place to perform and promoted their schedule is so tight. Thank you to all kpop idol to entertain all fans❤❤❤
It's a big Awards show tho
Not every performance has to be amazing amazing but idols should be in sync and most if not every should match a standard
Tell that to mys who are in everyone's business constantly harassing other artists lol
@g100-w6j harassed who
I’m gonna give my perspective as someone who ULTS æspa. æspa has surely improved on their stage presence and they’re way better than before but they lack consistency and that’s one of their main issues and a good number of their recent performances have been underwhelming but to say they looked lifeless on stage is just a plain lie. MYS need to stop attacking other groups and even if æspa was perfect(which they’re not) it doesn’t give you the right to go around spreading hate to others especially when you know æspa went through so much of that in the past like it’s just very Hypocritical of y’all and now other fandoms are quick to bash æspa cause y’all are quick to bash their favs unprovoked. Let’s all just do better.
their probably just really tired, theyve had so many performances in the past month
@ It’s obvious that they’re tired cause this is the most they’ve practically ever done in their careers but it still doesn’t change the fact they still need to improve and they’ll get there but SM needs to play into their strengths more
But that rule only applies to aespa right? That they shouldnt be bashed because they recieved SO MUCH hate. Other groups like illit and le sserafim deserve hate because they're weak in vocals?... its always okay unless its le sserafim and illit... and whats crazy is that aespa is the one out of ill it and le sserafim that shouldve gotten the most hate because they've been the industry longer...
@@markiesway How did you get all of this from my comment ? I literally ULT ILLIT and I’ve been defending them from MYS left and right so I really don’t get your reply like did you even read my comment ? I literally said MYS should stop attacking other groups and the top groups that came to my mind when I made that comment were ILLIT and LE SSERAFIM
@@markiesway How did you get all of this from my comment ? I literally ULT ILLIT and I’ve been defending them from MYS left and right. I literally said MYS should stop attacking other groups and the main groups that came to my mind when typed that were LE SSERAFIM and ILLIT like did you even read my comment before replying ?
yall calling mys the worst fandoms but where were you guys during the aespa hate train before spicy era?? the fandoms who are hating aespa are the same ones who contributed to the 2021-2022 hate train. fearnots and mys used to be sisters fandoms until lsfm got really popular with antifragile, got so much streams and they were singing live apparently so some hate tweets from fearnots went viral. Itzy being bffs with aespa and midzys were one of the 1st fandoms to contribute to the hate train back in 2022 but sure let's blame mys. wish yall did the same during pre spicy era.
Tbh, since aespa was introduced, Korean media said that this group is very promising, "some" fandoms felt threatened and their debut was one of the most successful yet very hated.
But guess what, everyone seems to be only focusing on MYs giving the SAME energy back. The double standard is just annoying.
Mainly it was midzys (felt threatened) and armies (when next level outcharted butter, they lost their minds) and blinks (never ending saga) and also fearnots, they are straight up disgusting so let's not talk about them.
But their eyes are only on MYs wow.
Agree or not their fandom is the main problem! Mys are always first when it comes to hating and harassing other groups...they always on everyone's business and always the first fandom to hop on trolling bullying honestly what were they expecting??
Exactly they always put the poor girls on spot
First of all every fandom has toxic ppl you targeting THE WHOLE FANDOM in general is not so nice. At least we don't send anti trucks to our own artists. You should check more about WHAT A TOXIC FANDOM ACTUALLY IS!
Please mys this year have been more than toxic , looking down other groups , joining bunnies to hate Illit and le sserafim especially cheawon, and making fun of other fandoms and their favs, that's why aespa is getting a lot of heat bcuz y'all started it@@sugar5195
@@sugar5195 DO NOT DENY CRAP GIRL!!!
Mys are TOXIC AND SHAMELESS!!!!
You not only bully 4th gen groups like stray kids, itzy, g-idle and the rest but you all also bully innocent newly debuted 5th gen groups that isn't too farmilair with the kpop world yet.
I mean, how will a group that just debuted starts getting hated by a particular in secured fandom because that's how I feel Mys are. Aespa are doing well in charts and receiving numerous awards but why do Mys like feeling arrogant for that and bullying ioher groups, are they afraid a time will come when new groups will steal the spotlight from aespa that's why they now result to bullying innocent rookie idols that still need their company to guide them through the industry?
Geez!
What a Toxic fandom actually is!! Oh really mys protested and went extreme to an extent that karina had to apologise publicly, mys dragged sunghoon all over the internet for not dancing in an tiktok and these are just recent things.. even aespa isnt save from thier own fandom mys always set them up if u cant digest anything against your favs u have no right to harass other groups online..
The huge backlash's bc of how loud their fans are when it comes to dragging other artists. People here don't seem to know how insufferable t/wt mys are.
And anyways,Aespa girls def lack in sp and they need to work on that
To be honest they all lack in dance skills. In my opinion some of the dance breaks don’t compliment there concept style making it seem more complex and messy.
Vocal wise the girls are powerhouses as for stage presence they have defiantly gotten better over the past years.
Mys had it coming. After months of harassing other groups, they're scrambling now 😂
Y'all calling mys the most insufferable fandom in the kpop community when literally every kpop fandom has its significant number of insufferable, delusional, pathetic fans. This hate train is actually benefitting the group lol.
And mys are the most insufferable along with blinks, sm/gg stans (aka tw/nks)🤷♀️
@@g100-w6j idrgaf if that's what's written in your book
@@g100-w6j and who made them like that? we all know what happened during pre spicy era
There was nothing wrong with the performance
Their performancr wasnt bad at all, honestly the cameraman wasnt doing their job here and cut out karina and winters last part. I feel like I am not watching the same performance, because that was pretty good, although I do think that winter was a little stiff, but couldnt even see her well.
Atp people love bashing aespa those losers
Learn to differenciate between bashing and critizing and maybe you'll be a better person
Atp it's valid , the performance was horrible
@markiesway i wish before telling me you be a better person 🤣
@@BaeYeonSae. just like you i guess
@@Seunghandeservesbetter it is hard to hear the truth right? The performance is horrible
it wasn't their best perfomance but it was fine? imo they just tired and overworked
what funnier is, ppl who are contributing to this were the same ones who gagged over their post spicy performances. you'll literally see comments on their drama, armageddon, supernova, mma2023, mama2024, festivals performances "OMGGG AESPA BEST PERFORMERS." even all of yall ranked their mma2023 stage begin the best among everyone but now since, they're finally in a controversy yall thought "let me hate too." your favs companies voted them to be the artist of the year which included the big4 + starship so yeah stay mad and you'll get another mma2023 soon ^^
The egotism in this comment section is phenomenal. So fast to start giving expert opinion when none is needed. Very embarrassing
Quite ironic coming from a my, y'all run and lead literally every group's hate train😭
The only thing ironic here is...if you actually knew what my group ults were your comment would be rendered meaningless@thanoscoloured_mf
@@Briarpatchlogic so you're defending a group you don't stan?
@thanoscoloured_mf YES...and why are you so messed up to think that's strange...people are capable of following multiple groups. I defend any group against wrong minded nonsense
Brainrot twitter stans always find ways to hate Aespa ....but all of them devoured the stage yes it might not be their best performance but it was not medicore .....It was good and enjoyable
I agree but think karma served here for always literally always mys hating on other fandoms unprovoked
im sorry but it was HORRIBLE. aespa need to improve they have so much potential (especially ningning) also SM makes them lipsync all the time so thats also a way that a hate train can be started. good music ≠ good performances
Hybe and their twitter stans cult should leave these girls alone
Tell that to mys who are constantly harassing and in other people's business lol pot calling the kettle back with your pink blood selves 😭😭
Im not a hybe fan neither am i on twitter I don't even follow any hybe grps but mys have been attcking every artists unprovoked (even their own idols lmao) so ig this serves them right. I feel bad for aespa for having such fans
Never in my life gonna take Twitter kpop stans seriously (especially if it concerns aespa). People there are always very quick to judge and hate on everybody.
Anyways, that being said, we cant deny the fact that the girls improved so much since debut, they haven't reached their full potential yet so lets encourage them to do more !
Four years after debut and they haven't reached their full potential yet or THEY HAVE NO POTENTIAL OF STAGE PRESENCE AT ALL😂😂😂
If It was another group will you Mys say the same thing. You all bash and bully other grps at the slightest but when its aespa, you all blame Sm, toxic fans from other groups, stylists or even the backup dancers that saved their entire performance😂
@FavourOkafor-d9d clock them!!!
@FavourOkafor-d9d first of all, u seem to be veryyyy interested with aespa. U can join the fandom atp. 😂
Second, speaking of sp, u clearly haven't watched their performances at Mama, MMA, KGMA, TIktok (?) ... To say the least, they killed it ! And everyone praised them for it
(Knets even said that mama 2024 was carried by big bang and aespa)
Third, oh so u hv problems with the fandom and instead of calling these people out, no, u pour ur hatred on the artist. Not very nice of you, I must say.
Fourth, the girls are living their best lives atm, they genuinely dont care about u so get a life .
@@-xtfyfdtsearxstdgworl, im a MY but the mma performance was like a music bank performance.. winters expressions saved tho + i havent seen ANY ppl saying aespa carried mama but rather another girlgroup which i am not gonna mention cause its not the time.
@@seleneluvsidle pretty pp + then u definitely missed a lot cuz in mama everyone agreed they ate (to say the least). Other gg did well too.
+ the mma performance was NOT like any regular music bank. The whole intro, the armageddon dance break, the paint in winter neck and the back up dancers were all a huge plus. Tbh I dont think I should take u seriously cuz of how inaccurate ur description is.
Everyone can always improve but at the same time it's clear that since aespa already are good singers, improved a lot in dance and stage presence, and had a wonderful succesful year with their songs, people are trying to find something little to bash them. (Edit the people down there even denying their vocals skills are just proving my point 🤷🏻♀️ aespa will improve again in what they lack but most of you are just jealous and it shows)
Tbh it’s mostly cos Aespa fandom (my) has been on every hating energy for different groups & always comparing while trashing other groups… and that just puts the girls on the spot.. I do believe it’s wrong to retaliate but those comments are actually mild compared to the ones I’ve seen with mys bashing other artists this year (whether it be a collab with an Aespa member or without a collab).. The girls are human and SM has been overworking them this year in my opinion, they’re bound to get tired at some point.
@Iris-py4hn MYS keep setting them up
@@ayomide8104 so because SOME people in a fandom were wrong and did wrong instead of calling them out you think it's right to bash the girls? What logic is that? We don't attack artists because the fans are bad, not even the most popular one
@Iris-py4hn How did you get all this from my one sentence? Pls go back and read my sentence before you accuse me of all of this
@Iris-py4hn some? It’s actually 70% of the fandom
I understand where they’re coming from, but let’s also remember that aespa had almost no breaks this year. They had 2 come backs and 1 japanese single debut.
I’m saying these girls have been packed and busy literally they had a tour not to long ago and that was during Armageddon era which once again not long ago
@ fr, so i understand if they’re not at their best in performances rn
Same with itzy but they gave an excellent performance
Ur excuse isn't gonna help
@Jalal10795 But itzy has better stamina and have been great performers since debut, aespa however weren’t good performers at the beginning. going from being mediocre to good in a few years will take toll on your body because you aren’t used to it yet. I’m not a MY and neither am I a Midzy, but I can still differentiate the group’s talents. Itzy is a performance group and aespa is a vocal group, there will be a big difference between their performances.
@Jalal10795 wasn't lia on hiatus for a few months or more, and itzy was mia for quite a long time, and had one comback only, and it's like very recent too. They didn't perform in uni fests, kgma or even mama etc so wdyem?
Let's be honest, even if Aespa had improved stage presence, they still lack it as compared to other groups. They gotta work on that. This was one of the reasons, their Coachella was criticized. They don't seem that interesting on stage even if they have amazing vocals and dance moves.
Mys set up aespa so bad. They’re always hating on other groups, like what did you expect. But let’s be honest aespa has always been lacking in dance and stage presence. Their choreographies aren’t even hard either and their lip syncing. My thing is if your going to lip sync you better be a damn good dancer and have some enthusiasm on stage while your performing
Honestly This show performances is definitely mid and average maybe due to some hectic schedules They seems stiff in dancing.Sometimes critisism doesn't mean HATE I watched there performance of mama and mma they were good But One thing aespa still lacks through out the years STAGE PRESENCE They can sing,Dance,Rap But There performances Lacks THAT Aura which automatically captures evryone heart's.Its my personal opinion So Those who don't agree or like this can easily ignore this i am not forcing anyone to accept this..
agreed 👍🏻 image a girl group who debuted 4 years ago still struggles with stage presence this is their weak point while their vocals are their strong point
It was about the choreo not stage presence. They nailed that several comebacks ago
@thebestlife1174 there dancing skills are lacking too honestly
@Iqra-j8c They do just fine. They don't have to be the best dancers btw.
@@thebestlife1174 yea thats the point their just fine not good
@Iqra-j8c If they weren't good then why do they sell out their concerts? You can criticize them all you want, but at the end of the day, your opinions don't matter
Aespa is giving non stop performance. They need proper rest. And this was performance were winter nearly tripped by her long sleeve. If people want aespa better in sp, then let them rest well first and recharge their energy.
What about itzy they're giving nonstop performances and still devouring it
@Jalal10795 nobody is talking about itzy. Sometimes we may lost our confidence. It happens.
@Jalal10795 your favs aren't as busy as aespa. their schedules speaks
I'm pretty sure the outfits also playred a part in this disaster lmao help
Honestly Mys are the reason aespa is getting this much hate
The thing is mys r saying that this year the didnt have any time to relax when they only released 2 songs and a Japanese comeback like even karina herself said that they have plenty of time and most idols r lying and shes the top in Homescapes (in korea )
Like look at itzy they released two mini albums and they went on a world tour but they still gave an amazing performance
In the end if u guys r calling them the 4th gen leaders if they rlly r 4yh gen leaders then y arent they performing well or is 4th gen leaders only considered by releasing good songs?
"They only released two songs and a Japanese comeback" 💀
Do u ever get ur facts checked before opening ur mouth or do you just speak for the sake of speaking ?
Next time get ur facts checked.
or maybeee the BIG articles and korea called them 4th gen leaders? recently aespa were elected to be the artist of the year by the BIG3 + starship & TBL. yk that these companies have powerful ppl. "2 songs and a japanese cb" yeah and what about the GIGS for magazines? stages? tours? you won't know that, your fav tanked.
your itzy has almost nothing to do. 2 minis, world tours, some gigs. meanwhile aespa has 1 FULL album, 1 jpn album, 1 mini album, TOURS, FESTIVALS, SOLO gigs, GROUP gigs, 37282992 stages. lol like itzy weren't even invited to most awards and festivals. If you think your favs are 4th gen leaders just because they have good performances then go out and touch grass. aespa :
supernova with 300 paks, 700 raks,
million sales,
whiplash still charting on top 3
winning soty, aoty
being elected as the aoty by BIG3, starship, TBL
supernova being selected by MAJOR articles as the best kpop song of 2024
going viral
members going viral
karina solo rak
most streamed album of 2024 by a gg
most streamed song by a gg in 2024
6 awards in a row
3 daesangs in a row
groups who did these were bts, njwns and ive. your itzy tanked in 2022 and its been like that since then. lia still sucks btw but it doesn't matter, she was on a hiatus. however aespa being sick is ignored.
@@cherryblossom1267 according to them, good performance = leader.
LOL peak delusion.
People saying that its bcuz of mys behaviour .. so instead of calling toxic people out, no, u pour ur hatred on the girls ? Not so nice.
Just admit that y'all were waiting for the slightest mistake to criticize and hate on these beautiful girls, who dgaf about you.
Aespa is always like this only is it something new 😅😅😅
I don't care about dancing as long as they do their REAL JOB (SINGING) accurately
Edit: I can't stop laughing lol. A jobless toddler yapping under my comment 💀
🤣🤣🤣 singing a playback....
@@Alexia-BM7 your favs can't even do that playback lol 😂
@@ananyabasak8006 Just one of my favs eats up your entire group vocally and they always sing live, what the hell are you talking about?
@@Alexia-BM7 They were singing live???
@LuvKpopforlife Aespa? NEVER
Toxic MY's please don't try to become blinks 2.0.....................be grateful as we are being fed with aespa's content lately and the girls have been working hard...........
pls be respectful to all fandoms and idols.............let's not comment about aespa on other group's videos cause that is just disrespectful and stop hating on lesserafim and illit !!!! leave them alone if you don't like their music duhhh....... aespa members are probably friends with these groups while yall have fanwars with their fandoms............stop acting like professional vocal coaches when you aren't...............if you stay respectful to other fans they will be respectful too (in most cases)
I understand what they are saying the grp does look stiff during the dance break and the perfomance was fine not perfect but people are being too harsh and the dance break choreo is just bad but for the choreo the blame goes to the choreographer but ngl all there award show perfomances are bland and its all bc sm doesn't give them any good dancebreaks or a good intro
tf you mean have you ever SEEN AESPA performance youre blind or deaf TO THINK THAT
I agree it's not that perfect but compared to their debut performance, they have improved especially in stage presence imo
Its that time of the year where the toxic kpop fans with no lives try to squeeze in some last minute hate and toxicity just before the New Year. Nothing new and definitely expected. Their words are meaningless.
This is totally fair because if blackpink was doing this you guys would tear them down I mean really the criticism is constructing they are stiff and they arent synchronised the dance moves are horrible
I love aespa but please stop with the excuses they seem to be doing this for attention or genuinely wasnt at their best. Y'all will defend anything and accept no type of criticism when it comes to idols.
I can’t say I disagree. The performance did leave me pretty disappointed. They’ve gotten better over the years, but stage presence/dance is still easily their weakest area and they aren’t very consistent a lot of the time.
Not all Idols have outstanding talent and Stage presence
you can see at Concerts who was born for it
these Idols are rare,
sorry for saying this but the Star in aespa are the Producers.
aespas really talented, and past performances are evidence. probably one of the best 4th gen girl groups in terms of talent. they were probably just exhausted during that one.
@@skz.hyumpling I’m sorry I promise I don’t hate aespa I literally stan them but I’m very unbiased..saying they’re the most talented gg in 4th gen, when the only thing they excel in is vocals…Their s.p did improve but it’s still weak, their dance..if I’m not mistaken karina is the weakest main dancer in 4th gen, Giselle is the only decent rapper and in vocals they’re top tier. But don’t get me wrong they’re pretty talented but just not the most talented in their gen, and they’re still improving
But if that’s your opinion then I respect it and I won’t argue
@@MIDZYSTAYinginMOAsATINYENGENE i said one of the best, also personally i think their dance is good and they've improved a lot compared to their debut.
@@skz.hyumplingSinging isn't the only talent a Kpop group needs.
@Alhanm-y3vThey never said that.
What's Wrong with that ... They always perform like this ... They are not forcing to watch their performance ....
@@n8mare076 That’s not the point. SANE People point out things so the group can improve
@ayomide8104 yeah ...
TBH Aespa has never had stage presence and they always look stift whilst dancing since their debut and that's why they got bashed a lot during their rookie days but they're slowly improving compared to then
Only winter was abit stiff tho
The only time she was struggling was when that piece of cloth almost made her fall. If anything, they need to improve as an overall group
I saw the hate twits. And most of the hate was for THE FANDOM. But This isn't a "dancebreak" im sorry. (It isn't that bad tho)
존나 웃기네 그냥 ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ
this is off topic but if these shows want views, they need to call up ITZY
But singing is the most necessary thing bro.. (no hate to ITZY, I'm a midzy too but itzy not great singers)
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Bruh since when they weren't good singers like explain to me how they sing live while performing@@ananyabasak8006
@@ananyabasak8006 the greatest joke I heard today, look up university performances of itzy, of any year, they're having the most intense choreo plus song stably live, plus, have you heard imaginary friend yet?
The performance is totally SM's fault. They should've given them proper choreography for the dancebreak first. And did no one really warn the girls when they were practicing their dance? They're not in sync at all, was there really no one telling them that their timing wasn't right??? This isn't anything difficult at all, it's nothing that couldn't be fixed if someone told them. What does SM spend the money earned through aespa on if not for something this basic???
Just end the year man
2024 was a horrible year for kpop
Yes, Aespa is a terrible group....omg
respectfully i do not respect your opinion🥰🥰😘😘 cause aespa aren't terrible even though they do not frequently sing live when they do they sound amazing and their stage presence might not be the best but it's not terrible especially after 2 back to back comebacks , tour and 1 japanese release they need a break...........and if your standards are that high (which i once had too but in this new era there is no one at the level of 2nd/3rd gen idols.....) then listen to those groups who fit your standards and appreciate their talent don't even bother to comment about aespa especially if you think they are terrible..............
@@myaespaholic Aespa are terrible whether you like it or not....
The fifth generation sings much better than Aespa, what the hell are you talking about?
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