Great Battles: The Siege and Fall of Masada
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- "Great Battles" Evening Lecture
The Siege and Fall of Masada
In the 1st century BCE, King Herod the Great fortified the mountain of Masada, located near the southwest shore of the Dead Sea. Seventy years after Herod's death, Jewish rebels occupied Masada during the First Jewish Revolt against the Romans, holding out even after the fall of Jerusalem. In this illustrated lecture, Dr. Jodi Magness, Professor of Religious Studies, UNC Chapel Hill, examines the archaeological and literary evidence for the Roman siege of Masada, including information from the 1995 excavations that she co-directed.
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As a Romano-British archaeologist of over 30 years, it is nice to hear and see a presentation from someone who knows what they are talking about.
....and she likes Python!
What a great lecture! Thank you, Prof. Magness!
Lay down, Close your eyes, and listen to this lady Dr Jodi Magness, WHO NEEDS TO WATCH THE MOVIE, No need, she explains so well and to the point, it's like watching the movie in your mind and picturing everything. it's like your there. WOW. 👌👍
Thanks for sharing.
Nice to see you Dr. Magness, I first watched your video by your explanations on the documentary video 'Jerusalem', released in 2013. Long live !! Love and respect from Ethiopia !
Insightful, interests and brilliantly presented. This woman has some great energy. Also an amazing sight to visit if you find yourself in Israel.
Excellent lecture with slide presentation. Much detail especially about Roman army and the wall, camp around Masada. Worth watching all of it. Should be more likes. Thanks for sharing.
Great lecture!!! I really enjoyed, thank you!
Terrific lecture. I learnt so much. Thankyou
The romantic in me wants the mass “suicide” story but after this lecture I am slightly skeptical. Great lecture, by the way. The dissection of the ramp was so illuminating. The Roman Army was indeed amazing.
Excellent lecture, thank you for posting
Excellent and very informative. Thank you.
This was very nice. The pace and info was steady coming.
Those Romans, they were such a force!
Very interesting and worth sticking with it to the end!
wonderfully presented, really enjoyed, thanks a lot!
It's interesting how popular belief is that the Masada resistance was heroic and lasted several years, while it was not. I wonder who spread these myths and why.
I also wonder which connection there is between Herod's (dead in 4BC) supplies and the supplies available to the "rebels" (72 AD). 76 years old supplies don't sound too edible.
One thing is certain: Masada shall never fall again! Shalom from Minas Gerais, Brazil!
+ione Barbosa Allow me to quote a fictional character in a fictional world, Fangorn who says something along the lines of "Forever is a very long time". With a Malthusian disaster coming, Masada will fall again. As will most other things we know and consider solid. We live in the equivalent of the third or fifth century.
You're right, it was never a fortress again after the Romans took it. And never will be.
People say a lot of things, and never is a very very long time.
mi onoro di vivere ed essere nato a pochi Km da Urbs Salvia la città natale del Generale Lucius Flavius Silva Nonius Bassus non è cosa da poco
Question for Prof. Magness-- was the ethnic makeup of the legionaires primarily Romano/Gallic, or primarily Helleno- Aramaic Syrians? In other words could this have been a war between Middle Eastern peoples, one side Judaean and the other representing by proxy the interests of Rome?
It is a strike to the belief that mass suicide had occured. What happened to the other survived females? Did they tell the same story?
Herod also had to worry about invasions by Aretas King of the Arab Nabataans and the Egyptian Ptolemaiads. The Jewish revolt of 66 -70 AD was sparked two generations after his death.
It is you who needs to get yourself up to speed as you betray ignorance even in the field of Rabbinic Halakha. Until the Mishna was set down in writing, the early rabbis and their Pharisaic predecessors had agreed with all other Jews that Jewishness was determined patralineally.Thus Herod was Jewish "according to Halakha" of his day in the most technical of senses. And back in the 1st century BCE the Pharisaic conversion procedure was different and simpler than in post-Talmudic times.
So maybe Josephus's writings are a bit like Julius's Belgic wars, a document to polish the ego of the guy in charge.
Would’ve been nice if she ** enlarged the diagram graphic. 😯
The Jews were under siege for some time before the Romans even decided to build the great seige works. And to build the siege works would have take much longer than 7 weeks. So the entire event had to have been longer than 2 months.
43:43 Why did the commander leave all that nice stuff? It's not like they had to evacuate in a hurry, etc.
1:15:06 Or "draw lots to commit mass suicide" was a cultural thing for the rebellious Jews, and *both* sets of rebels did it.
if anyone would give me summary of this for my class work that would be great thanks
Now what are your Historical Sources for that...???
I think his account must be true for the most part due to evidence that has proved some of what he wrote. Also I can't see a great Roman comander 9f the 10th legion who had just won a great battle and a fight letting him lie and say , no...they all committed suicide before the 10th could fight them. It would not bring deserved honor and also if there was no suicide then there would be 50,000 soldiers around to write and call out this as a lie. So I think the story must be closer to true then false Just my opinion.
at 6:50 - I love "educated" lecturers who excel at their subject knowledge but are completely ignorant of things they say outside their field of expertise. Herod was not 1/2 Jewish because his father was Jewish. If his mother was not Jewish and he did not convert properly then he was in fact not Jewish at all. For further clarification if Herod's Mother had been Jewish and his father not Jewish again he wouldn't be considered 1/2 Jewish - he would in fact be considered a Jew.
I wonder who in herod's entourage got carried up and down in litters and who had to walk...and fwiw they haven't caught josephus in an outright lie yet (referring to the suicide pact)--there were too many romans there who knew what had happened and anything he said they've been able to check by archaeology he's right...
As she said, the archaeology is ambiguous. Even if they had found the bodies, which they haven't, the wound made by a Jewish sword would not look very different from that made by a Roman sword.
The soldiers who were there knew the truth, obviously, but they had less than no incentive to contradict an official history written by a friend of the emperor. As for the rest of the Romans, it's not like they would have cared. We watch movies that are "based on history", like THE GREAT ESCAPE or THE BRIDGE ON THE RIVER KWAI. Of course they are not perfectly accurate, but audiences don't care, as long as it's a good story that, they want to believe, captures the "essence" of what happened.
flavius was a roman asset so his writings have to be dodgy.
Masada was just a massive suicide not a battle.
The story is that thw romans found some women n children having been stashed in a cistern... Supposedly... I do not know..
I really wish she would slow down. What exactly is the race? She knows she speaks way too fast, because she even said so at the beginning, she needs to relax and slow down her speech.
Well the race would be condensing hours worth of lecture material in to an hour. She likely spent most of her preparation shrinking a much larger subject in to the allotted time.
It's important that she doesnt fall behind early, or else she will be forced to race at the end.
the little porcelaine jar has shamrock on it maybe flavious mother was Irish.joke people.
Probably, however it would be upgraded to a great battle in the United States of Jewry.
The puppet-king Herod ruled Judaea from 37BCE. He was Jewish by the criterion determining Jewishness at the time, and only after the Mishna was published he would be considered a gentile or "half Jewish" by many, when Jewishness began being determined by having a Jewish mother.