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I would’ve loved a forest temple. Ocarina of time’s forest temple didn’t do it for me but the forest temple in twilight princess did, also did you know there was a scrapped two-headed flame Gleeock? One more thing, i feel like we should have gotten deku scrubs or deku babas in totk, especially since the deku tree was cursed by ganondorf in this game like oot, and honestly if we got a forest temple, it would have been better in korok forest than faron, mainly because korok forest has a few shrines and side quests. There is no main quest there apart from saving the deku tree just to tell you where the master sword should be when you could just get the “memories” instead, to me korok forest had wasted potential in this game.
ToTK is a beautiful game with a lot of hear put into it, but I am severely underwhelmed playing through it. I almost enjoy videos about it more. It's just BOTW with depths. There are still 0 Dungeons. The enemies are cool, but they added maybe.. 2? 3? new enemy types? I was really expecting more. I'm sorry.
they should of seen as faron is where we find the spirit temple in the depths but then again that spirit temple is not really a temple more like just a boxing ring
Nintendo originally never wanted a "Forest Temple" in Ocarina of Time, they instead wanted a Wind Temple with a Wind Sage... seems like they kinda fulfilled their Wish nowm
Agreed, the medallions in OOT also back this up as the “Forest Medallion” is shaped like a windmill, as it was intended to be for a wind temple. (Same can be said for water temple supposed to being an ice temple)
Yeah, that was their original plan for Ocarina of Time, hence why The Forest Medallion actually looks like a depiction of wind and not a leaf. The dungeons were an improvement, but I think further improvements are needed: the dungeon puzzle mechanics need to be more unique and not copy and paste. Every other Zelda Title got this right except for Breath of the Wild and Tears of the Kingdom.
link only has 5 fingers per hand so there are 5 "temples", but it would have been amazing to discover optional smaller temples, i know we have shrines and caves but imagine like he said in the video, having a temple inside the big dragon statue in faron, which gives us a special ability that isn't obligatory but gives some advantages like the yiga's secret technique but inside a temple with a boss
Would have been a great way to introduce some items back into the game, that as you say were neat but not required. The the ol' bog-standard hookshot! Still can't believe there's not a hookshot in two climbing Zeldas. THEY CAN'T BE WORRIED about it making things too easy after Tears of the Kingdom lmao.
Imagine the Yiga ability being a secret sage thing where you have to find out stuff about the Yigas past and history and it would split from the main story be its own thing
i think a forest temple would make more sense for korok forest. like there was already the little quest of having to ascend up and then kill phantom ganon, but it wouldve been even cooler if it was a full temple and you had a little korok companion helping you with puzzles before you finally kill some "scourge of korok forest". like maybe you go to korok forest and some korok tells you that somethings wrong and then you crawl down some deep cave inside the deku tree and activate terminals to go further down and finally kill the boss
i could imagine meeting a couple very distraught koroks near the various chasms around the forest who tell link that the deku tree is very sick / cursed and that they need help because they can‘t enter the forest anymore. they explain that the deku tree made the fog way denser in an attempt to keep whatever it is out, but failed and now not even link or zelda could enter to help. they tell link they want to help the tree and that the chasms look similar to what was making the tree sick a d they know the roots of the tree are down there. so they want to enter, but they‘re scared and wanted to wait for someone to help them. something like that, maybe? i just thought it was a little odd how players were just supposed to somehow figure out on their own that the only way to get into the forest is the depths…
I was disappointed with the Water Temple, imo it should have been under water, having it in the sky felt like Nintendo was being lazy to me or they just couldn't figure out how to do swimming. The ancient Zora underground area would have been a great place for a dungeon.
I think there could be about 10 of these dungeons in the game of course keeping the 5 original ones, but also maybe instead of the temple of time on the great sky island it could be temple of light and raurus spirit helps you, and idk know what the ability could be but the boss could definitely be Dark Link, and after you get the secret stone at the end link becomes the sage of light. And for the forest temple it could be in the lost woods and either chio or hestu could go with you and the ability could be entangling objects or enemies with vines that could keep stuff in place or disarm them, it could be located in the the and for the boss it could be soul keeper Poe. And for a shadow temple it could have paya as the sage and her ability is throwing her hat and cast a shadow of darkness over objects and enemies and in the case of enemies it could actually control them to help you, and the dungeon could be in a portal through the ring ruins to a twilight-like realm and the boss could be twili-bongo. And this is extremely unlikely but for an earth temple it could be a Minish and it’s ability could be earthwake on steroids(you would have an armor set to become tiny), the dungeon would be in akkala citadel and the boss could be none other than harbinger ganon, it’s very complicated. And just a quick note I would change the spirit temple and that instead of ninety being the sage, dragon head island would be a zonai village and you take a new zonai sage with you. And finally the temple of time, you would unlock this dungeon after seeing all of the dragon tears and pretty much everything else in this game and there would be one of those secret stone pedestal now there and you see the cutscene at the beginning of the game where you get recall but now it is here instead and it would pretty much be an even stronger recall where you can use it on enemies and other stuff, and you would stay in the sages realm where all the sages get their secret stones and you would go to the unruined temple of time and there you would have to do the normal dungeon stuff and once you get to the boss it turns out to be: The Imprisoned Darknut, and during this temple you would have Zelda following you because you can communicate and interact with her in this realm. And after beating imprisoned darknut, you use all of the sages vows to weaken the draconifacation so zelda can break free of her dragon form when ganondorf is defeated. That was a lot, but I think totk is already a great game and what I just said would just be in the most perfect world, but it is fun to think about these things.
Hyrule castle returns as it's own dungeon. It got a map similar to the other dungeons, you are sent all around the area before finally fighting a boss that would othervise appear in the boss rush. And you get both a cutscene and a heart after completing
This may be my Ocarina of Time nostalgia talking to my theorist half, but I kinda wanted both Forest and Shadow. For lore purposes, I would love an explanation as to what the heck those Ogre Trees are. And the fear factor would have been heightened if we got an Ogre Evermean. *shivers* Shadow Temple is not a necessity, since this game already puts me on edge with its darker aspects. Still, I liked how OoT acknowledged the dark side of Hyrule’s history beyond what Ganondorf was doing. The consequences of their past coming back to haunt their descendants. It sort of acknowledges how Hyrule has to deal and even work with it the darkness.
It doesn't actually have dungeons. It just have bigger rooms. I miss actual dungeons. On the Zonai thing they're just a reskin of the Guardians and the latter had a far better aestectic.
Hot take, but I missed there being a Shadow Temple a bit more. They could've used their 'darker' aesthetic and tone very well for that, especially with the Gloom Hands being so similar to the dead hand. Or they could've brought it back as that areas boss, somehow..... Also, it may have been said, I honestly haven't scrolled comments yet, but I remember hearing the Forest Temple was supposed to be Wind and Water was Ice, at one point in early development, but they couldn't get the mechanics down so went with Forest/Water. Perhaps a future DLC could give us access to further temples? As for it requiring extra sages...maybe it wouldn't, if those temples were to, say....exist in a land our bestest birb friend Kass takes us to, where he's been exploring during the events of TotK.
The whip idea is such a good one!!! (Assuming the motion controls are better than SS’s whip). We have poes in TOTK but no Poe sisters that would have made for such an eerie creepy atmosphere with them haunting a forest temple, sneaking up on Link and giggling before fading away. I honestly thought the double dragon slab on the cliff behind the huge stone serpent in Faron would have help something.
BotW was the first Zelda game I started and TotK the first I finished. (I only bought BotW two weeks before TotK released.) Once I started watching theory videos, I wondered why there wasn't a forest temple. I definitely think there should've been one. It could've been tied to the quest line (spoiler?) that sends you to a sky island.
I mean if they’re doing any DLC like with BOTW, they could easily add a Forest Temple with its own unique reward. Cuz I agree, I need me my forest temple. Hell can we get another Temple of Time dungeon too?
I wonder if they might have wanted a Temple in Faron at first, but then they wanted to do something else in the sky and the depths and scrapped the Faron temple in favor of the Spirit Temple.
I was honestly so pissed when I realized there wasn't a forest dungeon, especially after discovering the quest in Faron. It was such a missed opportunity. Remember when Nintendo was in early-stage development for BoTW and their first test dungeon was "A giant forest, bigger than the field in Ocarina"? And then we just didn't get a forest themed dungeon at all in either game? 😑 I'm seeing a lot of people say the Lost Woods sidequest is kind of like a Forest Temple..... but nah. If it's not a dank labyrinth that says "FOREST TEMPLE", in big letters to indicate it is, in fact, a temple, then it ain't a temple.
Could you imagine if the ancient hero was actually somehow a fusion or Ganondorf and Rauru? My reason for this crazy possibility is because Rauru's body is gone except his sealing hand and if Zonai live longer than any other race then why is the rest of his body gone but Ganondorf's is still there? Could it be possible that sometime before the first calamity ,in an attempt to reincarnate himself he tried using Rauru's body which in all honesty seems right up Ganondorf's alley but thanks to the power of light Rauru had the ancient hero resisted the influence of Ganondorf causing him to become the calamity thus the ancient hero becoming the hero in the first place
While I'm here for this, I honestly feel like this is ahead of the game. I mean the game is only 3-months old and we are expecting some DLC to come at a later date. So this COULD be something that will add lore to the Zonai connections. Don't be surprised if we end up getting a sort of forest-themed dungeon/story line along with a lot more lore to add to the game. They didn't disappoint with BOTW's DLC so lets see what they are cooking up this round.
to me the under part of the huge lake from zora's domain would have been a similar water temple from twilight princess given its royal layout it had plus it's underwater in both games, i would have preferred that over the one we got in the sky, and/or they would have had an abandoned mansion from TP as some sort of a mini boss dungeon to go along with the wind temple travel to unlock your way into the sky
Tbh, to me, the "Forest Temple" was the Lost Woods. You needed to go into the Depths go up a special place using Ascend, save the Deku Tree and Koroks from the Gloom Hands + Phantom Ganondorf. If you want to say that this technically isn't a dungeon, it does give you the location of the Master Sword as well as Memory 01. But, you forget that the Zonai Temple of Faron, was the Spirit Temple. Making you go through a surface puzzle, then you needing to go to the thunder isles, then go down into the surface, build a robot, and finally walk through the Faron Depths to get to the boss room.
@@hyronvalkinson1749 same lol I had mineru before Sidon lol, I was shrine hunting and cuz the thing for the temple is right across the shrine I found her without having sidon
There is kind of a forest temple, since you have to clear the gloom from the Lost Woods and Great Deku Tree, and it may not seem like it but have to find the right spot figure out why the Korok's stopped reacting, and then clear a mini boss.
@@alcides2494 Lazy, re-used comment. I stand by what I said. There are no dungeons in this game, or BOTW. They half-assed them again. They're just big Shrines, and one of them has Gravity! OOOOOH This game is NOT going to age as well as BOTW did. People are going to start getting angry in about a year how literally none of this makes sense, and how NOTHING was explained in the story or gameplay. Calling it.
@@ZeranZeran I can agree with that, though I do have a bit of a theory that Botw and Totk is either a Forgotten time line or a shadow timeline. It'd explain why no one there knows of the Triforce due to keeping it out of the books and why Zelda at the end of Botw had all three pieces and had no clue what they were. Like the Shadow timeline could of misplaced certain terrain like why is Pinnacle Rock by the Gerudo desert when it's always been by death mountain? How did the Goddess Statue from Skyward Sword that had been located to the South east suddenly ends up in the North west? Basically when creating it the "Goddesses" just took bits and pieces from each timeline to form Botw and Totk.
@@ZeranZeran yeah i can agree that some people are suffering from new game syndrome and praising things that aren’t that great. But this is still a pretty good game.
During the 2019 teaser, i immediately thought of how they would reuse the champoins or make new side characters like the champions. I got so hyped thinking of how awesome a korok would be as a champion. Like hestu with some little korok guys on his shoulder just beating up ganon with maracas, wooden twigs, and literal shit. That's the forest temple i needed.
Forest temple is always such a vibe. The spooky ones, the ones that are a little mystical... They didn't say anything about the barbarian tribe so maybe this forest temple could have alluded to them a bit. 🌳🌱🌲🗡️🌾🌳 They have dracozu river & the korok forest but those just... Don't feel the same as an enclosed forgotten place you find deep in the woods
To be honest I was kind of hoping that the great deku tree would act as a forest temple. I got really excited when I went inside him. I’m not really disappointed with what we got, but I do wish he would have acted like a full dungeon. Also, technically there are 6 dungeons since Hyrule Castle is given a dungeon map, has a boss, and gives you a heart container. Honestly though, I would love to see a shadow dungeon with dead hand as a boss more than anything.
@@DonutSwordsman umm…. Did you play the game at all? You fight multiple Phantom Ganons! You get a heart container from the aforementioned Phantom Ganon boss fight. Honestly I have no idea how you wouldn’t know about this fight. The cutscene prior to it is one of the best in the game!
@@Ppilldd AND it's part of the main storyline too there is no possible way u CAN miss this one, after finishing regional phenomenon u have to go there before even getting the quest for mineru, actually I take back what is said if didn't have full stamina and has chose to have 40 hearts instead I could've missed it lol
A sky temple found high above the Great Sky Island beyond the height limit where you solve a large interconnected puzzle instead of activating 5 switches. The boss at the end of the dungeon is the Flux Construct IV. It has multiple phases, and consists of more than 50 blocks, some of which are made of fire, ice, or electricity, and some being resistant to Ultrahand, Fuse, Ascend, and Recall.
Ehh...I think Mineru being the sage of spirit works better having her temple in the Depths alongside the various poes and whatnot, even if her temple is the weakest in the game. An eight sage in Faron would have been cool tho, like they could've been a Kokiri in the past, and the modern one would be a korok, but then we'd have 8 Sages and that obviously wouldn't work. Also the memories are seemingly before everything but after Skyward Sword so the Kokiri may not have even existed yet.
Honestly i think we should have gotten a dungon based around the Hylians themsleves as they are the only major race that ounce again lacks a temple desgined on them
@@4whealHere's my question I never see any youtubers address. IS the castle really floating? If you go under it, it's held up by a gigantic pillar that goes straight down to "bedrock" lol.
I guess this is an unpopular opinion, but I like the divine beasts quite a bit better than the dungeons in TotK (not counting the lead-ups to the dungeons; those are way better in TotK). The divine beasts felt more like exploring a giant puzzle box, and they also had the additional element of environmental manipulation that's lacking in TotK. The dungeons in TotK are basically worse divine beasts that happen to have some nice theming.
@@catalyst539 the bosses in TotK are better than BotW overall. They're fine. I'm not someone who really enjoys boss fights like so many other people seem to though, so it doesn't matter much to me that they're better.
I’d rather just have the forest temple not be with a sage, sure the sage concept is cool but I’d like for a dungeon to not be required to do with a sage
DLC could introduce any of the following dungeons: Sky Temple (above the Great Sky Island) Forest Temple (Faron) Shadow Temple (north of Korok Forest) Gloom Temple (behind the Great Plateau's bargainer statue) Earth Temple (Gerudo Highlands) Ice Temple (a hidden area under Hebra) Dark Temple (Skull Island lake secret] Forbidden Temple (if the path between Lookout Landing and Hyrule Castle went deeper) Zonai Temple (far above Hyrule Castle, around the 3500 mark) Hopefully we'll get at least one.
I just want a forest temple because zelda team does a fantastic job of "weird" and the lost woods is a perfect excuse to get weird. Always sad when they don't lean into that.
Why in Faron? The Spirit Temple is already in Faron. I’d prefer it being in the Depths of the Lost Woods. Edit: The Spirit Temple is a dungeon- the puzzles are just in the Construct Factory. And there is a 6th dungeon. It’s Hyrule Castle, after you finish Regional Phenomena.
What was that sandwich? If it can even be called a sandwich that is… what substance is that??? Also I think a forest temple dlc where we go investigate with Tauro would be a dream come true. I wouldn’t even need any serious story background just Tauro wants to go explore the forest temple would be enough for me lol 😅
Personally I would count the spirit temple as a dungeon since it's kind of connected to the construct factory which has the the whole "activate 4 or 5 thingys) additionally I would count hyrule castle and glooms lair as dungeons with hyrule castle having a dungeon map, 5 objectives (hunt zelda down) and then a boss And glooms lair feels more like a traditional linear dungeon with 2 mini bosses, puzzles and a boss at then end.
You know what would’ve been a better place for the forest temple? The great deku tree chasm, think about it in OOT the great deku tree was a dungeon and there was so much wasted potential with that part of the game and the sage could be hestu cuz he’s a “special” korok as for his ability I’m not sure but hey I still came up with a better location than the Faron region
Plot twist: The Underground is your creepy forest temple XD Just look at the wild flora (and fauna) down there! :D And the poes! And stal-horsies! (And moth(gibdo)s) yikes XD) And you can (and to a degree, should) go there at least once before heading out to the other dungeons! Yeah it's a stretch, but a fun one :D
maybe having the one accompanying/guiding us through the the forest temple could have been the ancient hero who is a zonai (for some reason), would have created a lot of opportunities to explain things about him
I kinda thought you'd go with bringing back Kass for the Forest Temple. Or failing that! Maybe using Penn as the guide (pen being mightier than the sword, just not the Master Sword, obviously)? Then, if we follow that route, maybe a statue of Kass at the end. We'd get a solution to what happened there - 'cause we don't know (or do we, is it DLC?). Or maybe even have Hestu (or an offspring called "Saria" (yes, THAT Saria))?
it probably won't happen, but I really hope we get a forest temple somewhere in korok forest, considering that lake saria is completely unreachable. Hestu could be the sage!
It’s actually not unreachable, the path is just somewhat well hidden by the placement of the trees and where the glowing mushrooms are placed around them.
I still don't understand how the Zonai went from "Barbarian Savages" to "Wolfkins that started Hyrule's Kingdom" Way too much lore thrown in with 0 explanation, and in a very lazy way. I can't take the game's story seriously, which is sad. I loved BOTW so much. Every time I reach a cutscene in ToTK, I'm rolling my eyes, annoyed. This is literally just a BOTW mod. An extensive one, well designed in some ways, but incredibly bare, boring, desolate, and just dead in much more than it should be.
Cool idea, I really do like it. The only problem is that the spirit temple quest starts in faron, so it would be weird to have two dungeons in the same region. But a forest temple would be really cool. If I made the game, i would put a forest temple in Faron, and then spirit temple in Akkala, maybe as a part of a dlc.
Forest Temple was my favorite from Ocarina, and I've generally liked the forest-themed dungeons from each subsequent game. I forgave them for the absence in Breath of the Wild. I have feelings about this repeat offence. But they absolutely have the potential to have a Zonai/Faron/Forest Temple as DLC! Perhaps the Ancient Hero's Aspect armor is expounded on, or augmented somehow. So much Zonai lore to delve into there. And the only option for the companion is... Hestu! SHALAKA!
The Secret/Sacred Stone of the Forest is lost is why. In ocarina of time when Link and Zelda look through the window at Gannondorf, Link has the stone of forest. When Zelda goes back in time in ToTK we see the same moment of history through her perspective. Zelda and Rauru foolishly give Gannondorf spoilers that a person named Link will defeat him. Which gives Gannondorf a reason to kill (OoT Link) before he has a chance to stop him. Which finally gives us an explanation for the Downfall timeline beyond the player getting bored and turning OoT off. Wherever the OoT Link died is likely the resting place of the Forest Stone as well, absent from Rauru’s imprisoning war and from the history the dungeons draw from in ToTK. Perhaps we will rediscover the Forest Stone in a DLC or third game in the “of the” sequence.
It makes sense there isn't a "forest" temple because it's not an element. Fire, water, wind, and lightning are all elements. "Forest" isn't an element. What I wish this new Hyrule had was thicker forests. Something like the forest Link stumbles through in the intro of "Majora's Mask". A Redwood forest, essentially.
All existing temples had the lead-up trials which were the first part of the dungeon. Some could have been surpassed or advanced passed each's start with zonai flight devices, but generally, they required a solve-all before getting to the actual Temple. Looking at the Spirit Temple, Thunderhead Island, and assembling of Mineru's parts are a pretty lengthy dungeon. They act very similarly and are pretty length. There could have been a Forest "area" that was not the temple, but an actual Forest Temple would have needed its own trial and dungeon lead-up. Since all 5 were chunky on their own, plus due to all the open world exploration, a 6th might have felt too much to some players. I would have liked it but then would not have had the energy to uncover the entirety of the Depths or Sky.
So... We've got five of the sages, correct... And the hero... Missing two sages by my count... Unless we're still counting Zelda, but imo, ehh... That would leave two possible sages for a future dlc... And would also be interested in seeing what happened now that demise is free... Or at least that's how I'm reading all of this ...
Ngl i do wish TOTK has a Shadow Temple with Paya as the Sage of Shadows, it's been a while since we have a Shadow Temple; and some Sheikah representation in TOTK would be really nice since the Zonai took the spotlight like 99.9% of the entire game..picture this : = Scourge of the Shadow Temple = Deadhand
Side note: you were kinda right about the Zonai. They weren't in the game. There are 2 zonai in the game. If you count the dragons technically 5, but even that is speculation. We don't know that they are zonai that ate stones. It's just a good assumption. 2 Zonai do not a civilization make. The Zonai were basically just as dead in TotK as they were in BotW.
You got some dub thoughts. I really wanted them to add a forest temple. There’s still room for DLC but I doubt they’ll do a fan service like that. Also I agree it would be awesome if they used a more tribalistic enemy like in Majora or a plant enemy. I also wanted them to add more Majora Easter eggs in general. Like I feel like it would’ve been cool if they brought the moon back and with all the floating islands it would be so cool. Idk really know how they’d include it but my one critique totk is there aren’t too many bosses for real. So idk it would’ve been cool if they brought back at least a few bosses that were revamped
Hey dude, I listen to lore and theory videos while I’m at work, I just wanted to say I think you may have overlooked the thunderhead isles. In its own way, it is somewhat of a thematically developed area on the map with the unending thunderstorm and visibility loss. While I would agree it’s not a dungeon, it is a POI within (or above) the Faron region that takes time to explore and become acclimated to. What do you think?
I do feel like the Faron region went underutilized in these titles. Its beyond optional in botw, and the Thunderhead islands, while a great quest line, still felt like they didnt maximize Faron's potential. Agree, a 5th dungeon there would have given the game some nice body to it's second-act.
I was just watching theory videos and realized in Skyward Demise who talks about being defeated before has a scar on his head where link stabs him in totk. I wonder if it was intentional. It could just be a nod to other games, and the unified timeline theory seems more and more believable. Like the goddess of time tried to fix it all by messing all the timelines into one new timeline, instead of having the timelines meet up far in the future of both. Which would explain why there is familiar stuff but now of the canon history from any of the timelines. And aim waiting for the. To say the Rito came from the skyloft birds, instead of Zora.
At this point, Nintendo has simply abandoned the forest element and replaced it with wind. I feel like in previous games, hardware limitations and development timings prevented them from adding wind related gameplay segments in full swing, but with the switch era they finally can and the whole "Forest" element has been replaced with what it should've been !
What are you talking about a dungeon I won't be able to find this dungeon is a part of the game you can't go forward without completing that. are you f****** serious
I’d just like a dungeon that fixes the master sword, it had to heal for 100 years and understandably Fi is an old lady, she needs to rest, but she rested in Zelda’s noggin for at least 20,105 years and she still has to be all “hold up I need a break” every so often?
Ok so -"clickbaity" title- aside, I _love_ forest dungeons in zelda. The overgrown nature aesthetic combined with ruins or some sort of mysterious place is almost inviting for the player to get lost in it exploring. I also thought about how there wasn't much in the zonai ruins now and since that was pretty much the main point of research on the zonai in botw, I wish they had a forest dungeon. It'd work SO well, like look at the room where you find mineru's mask for example! Gorgeous. Not sure if I agree on zelda having a traditional dungeon format again as innovating the dungeons is something I do like to see! Not saying totk's are perfect though, tons to improve on. The game _technically_ had 6 dungeons cause hyrule castle gives you a heart container at the end of a boss, but I'd have liked to see them sacrifice some of the shrines (and quests for blessings) for a bit more dungeon content! Edit: oh yeah and would totally love to explore the places in the past like where mineru was sitting, it looks so cool
I didn't mean to imply it needs the traditional dungeon format again, that would be too much tbh. Just more aspects of it, find the balance between open and old a bit more. I feel like it's still finding itself, but in a very good place with TOTK!
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I would’ve loved a forest temple. Ocarina of time’s forest temple didn’t do it for me but the forest temple in twilight princess did, also did you know there was a scrapped two-headed flame Gleeock? One more thing, i feel like we should have gotten deku scrubs or deku babas in totk, especially since the deku tree was cursed by ganondorf in this game like oot, and honestly if we got a forest temple, it would have been better in korok forest than faron, mainly because korok forest has a few shrines and side quests. There is no main quest there apart from saving the deku tree just to tell you where the master sword should be when you could just get the “memories” instead, to me korok forest had wasted potential in this game.
Welp... thats 2 mins of my life i wont be getting back
ToTK is a beautiful game with a lot of hear put into it, but I am severely underwhelmed playing through it.
I almost enjoy videos about it more. It's just BOTW with depths. There are still 0 Dungeons. The enemies are cool, but they added maybe.. 2? 3? new enemy types?
I was really expecting more. I'm sorry.
they should of seen as faron is where we find the spirit temple in the depths but then again that spirit temple is not really a temple more like just a boxing ring
Although it might not have been that necessary for the game, I can admit that the Zonai Ruins in Faron did seem like it could've had more to it.
Nintendo originally never wanted a "Forest Temple" in Ocarina of Time, they instead wanted a Wind Temple with a Wind Sage... seems like they kinda fulfilled their Wish nowm
yep even in ganon's tower you won't find the forest temple challenge but a wind themed one
Interesting
Agreed, the medallions in OOT also back this up as the “Forest Medallion” is shaped like a windmill, as it was intended to be for a wind temple. (Same can be said for water temple supposed to being an ice temple)
I always thought it was weird that they changed this, I'm pretty sure in Japanese it's still called "Wind Temple"
Yeah, that was their original plan for Ocarina of Time, hence why The Forest Medallion actually looks like a depiction of wind and not a leaf.
The dungeons were an improvement, but I think further improvements are needed: the dungeon puzzle mechanics need to be more unique and not copy and paste. Every other Zelda Title got this right except for Breath of the Wild and Tears of the Kingdom.
link only has 5 fingers per hand so there are 5 "temples", but it would have been amazing to discover optional smaller temples, i know we have shrines and caves but imagine like he said in the video, having a temple inside the big dragon statue in faron, which gives us a special ability that isn't obligatory but gives some advantages like the yiga's secret technique but inside a temple with a boss
Would have been a great way to introduce some items back into the game, that as you say were neat but not required. The the ol' bog-standard hookshot! Still can't believe there's not a hookshot in two climbing Zeldas. THEY CAN'T BE WORRIED about it making things too easy after Tears of the Kingdom lmao.
Iike BEYBLADE
Maybe when we get DLC there will be 5 more temples for his other 4 fingers and thumb.
Imagine the Yiga ability being a secret sage thing where you have to find out stuff about the Yigas past and history and it would split from the main story be its own thing
i think a forest temple would make more sense for korok forest. like there was already the little quest of having to ascend up and then kill phantom ganon, but it wouldve been even cooler if it was a full temple and you had a little korok companion helping you with puzzles before you finally kill some "scourge of korok forest". like maybe you go to korok forest and some korok tells you that somethings wrong and then you crawl down some deep cave inside the deku tree and activate terminals to go further down and finally kill the boss
i could imagine meeting a couple very distraught koroks near the various chasms around the forest who tell link that the deku tree is very sick / cursed and that they need help because they can‘t enter the forest anymore.
they explain that the deku tree made the fog way denser in an attempt to keep whatever it is out, but failed and now not even link or zelda could enter to help.
they tell link they want to help the tree and that the chasms look similar to what was making the tree sick a d they know the roots of the tree are down there. so they want to enter, but they‘re scared and wanted to wait for someone to help them.
something like that, maybe? i just thought it was a little odd how players were just supposed to somehow figure out on their own that the only way to get into the forest is the depths…
I was disappointed with the Water Temple, imo it should have been under water, having it in the sky felt like Nintendo was being lazy to me or they just couldn't figure out how to do swimming. The ancient Zora underground area would have been a great place for a dungeon.
I think there could be about 10 of these dungeons in the game of course keeping the 5 original ones, but also maybe instead of the temple of time on the great sky island it could be temple of light and raurus spirit helps you, and idk know what the ability could be but the boss could definitely be Dark Link, and after you get the secret stone at the end link becomes the sage of light. And for the forest temple it could be in the lost woods and either chio or hestu could go with you and the ability could be entangling objects or enemies with vines that could keep stuff in place or disarm them, it could be located in the the and for the boss it could be soul keeper Poe. And for a shadow temple it could have paya as the sage and her ability is throwing her hat and cast a shadow of darkness over objects and enemies and in the case of enemies it could actually control them to help you, and the dungeon could be in a portal through the ring ruins to a twilight-like realm and the boss could be twili-bongo. And this is extremely unlikely but for an earth temple it could be a Minish and it’s ability could be earthwake on steroids(you would have an armor set to become tiny), the dungeon would be in akkala citadel and the boss could be none other than harbinger ganon, it’s very complicated. And just a quick note I would change the spirit temple and that instead of ninety being the sage, dragon head island would be a zonai village and you take a new zonai sage with you. And finally the temple of time, you would unlock this dungeon after seeing all of the dragon tears and pretty much everything else in this game and there would be one of those secret stone pedestal now there and you see the cutscene at the beginning of the game where you get recall but now it is here instead and it would pretty much be an even stronger recall where you can use it on enemies and other stuff, and you would stay in the sages realm where all the sages get their secret stones and you would go to the unruined temple of time and there you would have to do the normal dungeon stuff and once you get to the boss it turns out to be: The Imprisoned Darknut, and during this temple you would have Zelda following you because you can communicate and interact with her in this realm. And after beating imprisoned darknut, you use all of the sages vows to weaken the draconifacation so zelda can break free of her dragon form when ganondorf is defeated. That was a lot, but I think totk is already a great game and what I just said would just be in the most perfect world, but it is fun to think about these things.
Hyrule castle returns as it's own dungeon. It got a map similar to the other dungeons, you are sent all around the area before finally fighting a boss that would othervise appear in the boss rush. And you get both a cutscene and a heart after completing
This may be my Ocarina of Time nostalgia talking to my theorist half, but I kinda wanted both Forest and Shadow.
For lore purposes, I would love an explanation as to what the heck those Ogre Trees are. And the fear factor would have been heightened if we got an Ogre Evermean. *shivers*
Shadow Temple is not a necessity, since this game already puts me on edge with its darker aspects. Still, I liked how OoT acknowledged the dark side of Hyrule’s history beyond what Ganondorf was doing. The consequences of their past coming back to haunt their descendants. It sort of acknowledges how Hyrule has to deal and even work with it the darkness.
Very fair
I cannot tell you how much I agree with this. We neeeed a dlc pack for a forest dungeon, as it's too late for another sage.
It doesn't actually have dungeons. It just have bigger rooms. I miss actual dungeons. On the Zonai thing they're just a reskin of the Guardians and the latter had a far better aestectic.
I hope they have plans to add this forest temple or do more with the Faron region in the dlc, and then a second dlc focused around kass
Hot take, but I missed there being a Shadow Temple a bit more. They could've used their 'darker' aesthetic and tone very well for that, especially with the Gloom Hands being so similar to the dead hand. Or they could've brought it back as that areas boss, somehow..... Also, it may have been said, I honestly haven't scrolled comments yet, but I remember hearing the Forest Temple was supposed to be Wind and Water was Ice, at one point in early development, but they couldn't get the mechanics down so went with Forest/Water. Perhaps a future DLC could give us access to further temples? As for it requiring extra sages...maybe it wouldn't, if those temples were to, say....exist in a land our bestest birb friend Kass takes us to, where he's been exploring during the events of TotK.
The whip idea is such a good one!!! (Assuming the motion controls are better than SS’s whip). We have poes in TOTK but no Poe sisters that would have made for such an eerie creepy atmosphere with them haunting a forest temple, sneaking up on Link and giggling before fading away. I honestly thought the double dragon slab on the cliff behind the huge stone serpent in Faron would have help something.
BotW was the first Zelda game I started and TotK the first I finished. (I only bought BotW two weeks before TotK released.) Once I started watching theory videos, I wondered why there wasn't a forest temple. I definitely think there should've been one. It could've been tied to the quest line (spoiler?) that sends you to a sky island.
I mean if they’re doing any DLC like with BOTW, they could easily add a Forest Temple with its own unique reward. Cuz I agree, I need me my forest temple. Hell can we get another Temple of Time dungeon too?
I'm expecting it to come in either dlc or another direct sequel. The dungeon might even include kass, after all.
I wonder if they might have wanted a Temple in Faron at first, but then they wanted to do something else in the sky and the depths and scrapped the Faron temple in favor of the Spirit Temple.
The koroks deserve a divine beast
I was honestly so pissed when I realized there wasn't a forest dungeon, especially after discovering the quest in Faron. It was such a missed opportunity. Remember when Nintendo was in early-stage development for BoTW and their first test dungeon was "A giant forest, bigger than the field in Ocarina"? And then we just didn't get a forest themed dungeon at all in either game? 😑
I'm seeing a lot of people say the Lost Woods sidequest is kind of like a Forest Temple..... but nah. If it's not a dank labyrinth that says "FOREST TEMPLE", in big letters to indicate it is, in fact, a temple, then it ain't a temple.
Could you imagine if the ancient hero was actually somehow a fusion or Ganondorf and Rauru? My reason for this crazy possibility is because Rauru's body is gone except his sealing hand and if Zonai live longer than any other race then why is the rest of his body gone but Ganondorf's is still there? Could it be possible that sometime before the first calamity ,in an attempt to reincarnate himself he tried using Rauru's body which in all honesty seems right up Ganondorf's alley but thanks to the power of light Rauru had the ancient hero resisted the influence of Ganondorf causing him to become the calamity thus the ancient hero becoming the hero in the first place
I have one thought that could be considered as contrary to this video:
The Great Deku Tree and the Lost Woods in TotK.
Big Agree mate
I hope this is the setting of the dlc, when it arrives.
That'd be cool!
While I'm here for this, I honestly feel like this is ahead of the game. I mean the game is only 3-months old and we are expecting some DLC to come at a later date. So this COULD be something that will add lore to the Zonai connections. Don't be surprised if we end up getting a sort of forest-themed dungeon/story line along with a lot more lore to add to the game. They didn't disappoint with BOTW's DLC so lets see what they are cooking up this round.
They should add another couple temples as DLC.
Absolutely
Thanks for the great content!
I thought all the zelda tubers would drown us in zelda theories since totk dropped, but it has been dry season so far
NOW I WANT FOREST TEMPLE
2:25 it 100% is
You want to whip grab a tail and fuse it to a weapon
to me the under part of the huge lake from zora's domain would have been a similar water temple from twilight princess given its royal layout it had plus it's underwater in both games, i would have preferred that over the one we got in the sky, and/or they would have had an abandoned mansion from TP as some sort of a mini boss dungeon to go along with the wind temple travel to unlock your way into the sky
I hope this video ages like milk with the DLC release
That'd be a good thing if it happened in DLC
Waikuteru taking notes xD
Did anyone else think Tauro was a disguise? **Spoiler** was obvious with the veneration of the Blood Moon, but Tauro really surprised me.
5:13 the place in the cutscene? You can already. Its the spirit temple
I'm about to ruin this man's life.
The jungle dungeon should have been inside of the Lost woods. And it should have been based around the minish.
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This video is 8 good minutes but all you had to say was "give me a grapple hook!"
maybe It'll be in the DLC?
tldr: I loved this game so much I want more!
To the person that submitted the snack featured in this video, can you please comment what that was? It looked like a pink sandwich?
Watch them make this dungeon dlc JUST because you made this video
I WOULD LOVE IT IN DLC! 🤞
A good one.
Cheers!
Tbh, to me, the "Forest Temple" was the Lost Woods. You needed to go into the Depths go up a special place using Ascend, save the Deku Tree and Koroks from the Gloom Hands + Phantom Ganondorf.
If you want to say that this technically isn't a dungeon, it does give you the location of the Master Sword as well as Memory 01.
But, you forget that the Zonai Temple of Faron, was the Spirit Temple. Making you go through a surface puzzle, then you needing to go to the thunder isles, then go down into the surface, build a robot, and finally walk through the Faron Depths to get to the boss room.
And in the "spirit" of BotW/TotK, I solved it completely out of order
Ok ‘jungle temple’? 🌳
@@hyronvalkinson1749 same lol I had mineru before Sidon lol, I was shrine hunting and cuz the thing for the temple is right across the shrine I found her without having sidon
I'd have loved one.
It was an interesting part of the game but re-using phantom Ganon again seemed a bit lazy to be honest, it just seemed a wasted opportunity.
There is kind of a forest temple, since you have to clear the gloom from the Lost Woods and Great Deku Tree, and it may not seem like it but have to find the right spot figure out why the Korok's stopped reacting, and then clear a mini boss.
Honestly there are still 0 temples
Nintendo messed up
@@ZeranZeran L take
@@alcides2494 Lazy, re-used comment.
I stand by what I said. There are no dungeons in this game, or BOTW. They half-assed them again. They're just big Shrines, and one of them has Gravity! OOOOOH
This game is NOT going to age as well as BOTW did. People are going to start getting angry in about a year how literally none of this makes sense, and how NOTHING was explained in the story or gameplay. Calling it.
@@ZeranZeran I can agree with that, though I do have a bit of a theory that Botw and Totk is either a Forgotten time line or a shadow timeline. It'd explain why no one there knows of the Triforce due to keeping it out of the books and why Zelda at the end of Botw had all three pieces and had no clue what they were. Like the Shadow timeline could of misplaced certain terrain like why is Pinnacle Rock by the Gerudo desert when it's always been by death mountain? How did the Goddess Statue from Skyward Sword that had been located to the South east suddenly ends up in the North west? Basically when creating it the "Goddesses" just took bits and pieces from each timeline to form Botw and Totk.
@@ZeranZeran yeah i can agree that some people are suffering from new game syndrome and praising things that aren’t that great. But this is still a pretty good game.
It might be expecting a lot, but a DLC including a Forest Temple would be great. I do miss the Forest temple theme- it was always my favorite
A forest temple and shadow temple and maybe even a light temple as well
But who would the Sages of Forest and Shadow be?@@jockson7574
Sadly, there’s news that means no DLC😞
@@LaInspectora yeah I heard… guess we can always hope for a good MOD, even though for most people that is not accessible- including me
During the 2019 teaser, i immediately thought of how they would reuse the champoins or make new side characters like the champions. I got so hyped thinking of how awesome a korok would be as a champion. Like hestu with some little korok guys on his shoulder just beating up ganon with maracas, wooden twigs, and literal shit. That's the forest temple i needed.
- Air Temple (Rito/Hebra *Sky)
- Fire Temple (Goron/Eldin *Depths)
- Water Temple (Zora/Lanayru *Sky)
- Lightning Temple (Gerudo/Gerudo)
- Spirit Temple (Zonai/Faron *Depths)
- Hyrule Castle [Hylian/Hyrule *Sky]
- Korok Forest (Korok/Hyrule Forest)
- Gloom's Origin (Hyrule *Depths)
Plus the "Mini-Dungeons" scattered throughout Hyrule and the Sky.
What about the sheikah?
@@MarshallTheArtistsheikah who?
@@SilentVinyl That's some lazy trolling. Everyone here knows who the Sheikah are.
@@MarshallTheArtist No Sheikah dungeon because the all the Sheikah tech just disappeared in ToTK
@@SilentVinyl
Doesn’t have to be a technology based dungeon- forgot about the Shadow Temple from OoT, have we?
Forest temple is always such a vibe. The spooky ones, the ones that are a little mystical... They didn't say anything about the barbarian tribe so maybe this forest temple could have alluded to them a bit. 🌳🌱🌲🗡️🌾🌳
They have dracozu river & the korok forest but those just... Don't feel the same as an enclosed forgotten place you find deep in the woods
Absolutely!
To be honest I was kind of hoping that the great deku tree would act as a forest temple. I got really excited when I went inside him. I’m not really disappointed with what we got, but I do wish he would have acted like a full dungeon. Also, technically there are 6 dungeons since Hyrule Castle is given a dungeon map, has a boss, and gives you a heart container. Honestly though, I would love to see a shadow dungeon with dead hand as a boss more than anything.
What boss and heart container?
@@DonutSwordsman umm…. Did you play the game at all? You fight multiple Phantom Ganons! You get a heart container from the aforementioned Phantom Ganon boss fight. Honestly I have no idea how you wouldn’t know about this fight. The cutscene prior to it is one of the best in the game!
@@Ppilldd AND it's part of the main storyline too there is no possible way u CAN miss this one, after finishing regional phenomenon u have to go there before even getting the quest for mineru, actually I take back what is said if didn't have full stamina and has chose to have 40 hearts instead I could've missed it lol
@@Ppillddbtw ur comment contradicts itself cuz in that sense wouldn't the big ass Poe statue be a dungeon cuz u get a heart or stamina for ur reward
@@joeyst.laurent1987 no it wouldn’t be because there’s no boss. It’s just a side quest with a good reward.
A sky temple found high above the Great Sky Island beyond the height limit where you solve a large interconnected puzzle instead of activating 5 switches. The boss at the end of the dungeon is the Flux Construct IV. It has multiple phases, and consists of more than 50 blocks, some of which are made of fire, ice, or electricity, and some being resistant to Ultrahand, Fuse, Ascend, and Recall.
Ehh...I think Mineru being the sage of spirit works better having her temple in the Depths alongside the various poes and whatnot, even if her temple is the weakest in the game. An eight sage in Faron would have been cool tho, like they could've been a Kokiri in the past, and the modern one would be a korok, but then we'd have 8 Sages and that obviously wouldn't work. Also the memories are seemingly before everything but after Skyward Sword so the Kokiri may not have even existed yet.
Honestly i think we should have gotten a dungon based around the Hylians themsleves as they are the only major race that ounce again lacks a temple desgined on them
I'd say that hyrule castle counts as a temple in it's own way.
@@Roty24-f6s Wouldn't really say that definitely seeing that it's basically just a repeat of last time expect smaller now seeing it's partly floating.
@@4whealHere's my question I never see any youtubers address. IS the castle really floating? If you go under it, it's held up by a gigantic pillar that goes straight down to "bedrock" lol.
And the sheikah, and the koroks (biggest race in the game, by overwhelming numbers)
@@lxxvx It's not actually floting like you, and the other guy said it's being held up by a gaint stone piller.
1:08 What the hell is that?
The water temple was the weakest, plus the spirit temple wasn't interesting enough.
I believe the sauce is dyed with beetroot
@@HyruleGamer I believe I'm gonna barf lol. I won't lie that did not look appealing or appetizing.
They didn't really feel like dungeons to me. They felt like divine beasts with better done themes.
Valid
I guess this is an unpopular opinion, but I like the divine beasts quite a bit better than the dungeons in TotK (not counting the lead-ups to the dungeons; those are way better in TotK). The divine beasts felt more like exploring a giant puzzle box, and they also had the additional element of environmental manipulation that's lacking in TotK. The dungeons in TotK are basically worse divine beasts that happen to have some nice theming.
What about the bosses? The Phantom Ganons are surely worse than the likes of Colgera, for instance
@@catalyst539 the bosses in TotK are better than BotW overall. They're fine. I'm not someone who really enjoys boss fights like so many other people seem to though, so it doesn't matter much to me that they're better.
I’d rather just have the forest temple not be with a sage, sure the sage concept is cool but I’d like for a dungeon to not be required to do with a sage
DLC could introduce any of the following dungeons:
Sky Temple (above the Great Sky Island)
Forest Temple (Faron)
Shadow Temple (north of Korok Forest)
Gloom Temple (behind the Great Plateau's bargainer statue)
Earth Temple (Gerudo Highlands)
Ice Temple (a hidden area under Hebra)
Dark Temple (Skull Island lake secret]
Forbidden Temple (if the path between Lookout Landing and Hyrule Castle went deeper)
Zonai Temple (far above Hyrule Castle, around the 3500 mark)
Hopefully we'll get at least one.
I just want a forest temple because zelda team does a fantastic job of "weird" and the lost woods is a perfect excuse to get weird.
Always sad when they don't lean into that.
Why in Faron? The Spirit Temple is already in Faron. I’d prefer it being in the Depths of the Lost Woods.
Edit: The Spirit Temple is a dungeon- the puzzles are just in the Construct Factory.
And there is a 6th dungeon. It’s Hyrule Castle, after you finish Regional Phenomena.
What was that sandwich? If it can even be called a sandwich that is… what substance is that??? Also I think a forest temple dlc where we go investigate with Tauro would be a dream come true. I wouldn’t even need any serious story background just Tauro wants to go explore the forest temple would be enough for me lol 😅
Personally I would count the spirit temple as a dungeon since it's kind of connected to the construct factory which has the the whole "activate 4 or 5 thingys) additionally I would count hyrule castle and glooms lair as dungeons with hyrule castle having a dungeon map, 5 objectives (hunt zelda down) and then a boss
And glooms lair feels more like a traditional linear dungeon with 2 mini bosses, puzzles and a boss at then end.
Would have been perfect for that dungeon/cave enterance from the first trailer that didn't make it to the game.
Honestly, a forest temple with the Zonai translater that LEADS INTO the Spirit temple would have been AMAZING!
Maybe Forest Temple = DLC? Mystery is part of the magic.
I love your videos!
You know what would’ve been a better place for the forest temple? The great deku tree chasm, think about it in OOT the great deku tree was a dungeon and there was so much wasted potential with that part of the game and the sage could be hestu cuz he’s a “special” korok as for his ability I’m not sure but hey I still came up with a better location than the Faron region
TL;DW : the dungeons in this game suck so bad that people are coping and imagining new dungeons for it
Plot twist: The Underground is your creepy forest temple XD Just look at the wild flora (and fauna) down there! :D And the poes! And stal-horsies! (And moth(gibdo)s) yikes XD) And you can (and to a degree, should) go there at least once before heading out to the other dungeons!
Yeah it's a stretch, but a fun one :D
Clickbait. Your Forest Dungeon should have been inside the Deku Tree with a Korok Sage (not Hestu).
maybe having the one accompanying/guiding us through the the forest temple could have been the ancient hero who is a zonai (for some reason), would have created a lot of opportunities to explain things about him
there are actually 7 dungeons: wind temple, fire temple water temple, lightning temple, hyrule castle, spirit temple, and forgotten foundation
Ok but wtf is that pink stuff in the sandwich you showed in the beginning
I kinda thought you'd go with bringing back Kass for the Forest Temple. Or failing that! Maybe using Penn as the guide (pen being mightier than the sword, just not the Master Sword, obviously)? Then, if we follow that route, maybe a statue of Kass at the end. We'd get a solution to what happened there - 'cause we don't know (or do we, is it DLC?). Or maybe even have Hestu (or an offspring called "Saria" (yes, THAT Saria))?
Forest temple should have been in the Korok Forest, with the sage being Hestu or whatever
And his power could be sprouting trees from the ground
it probably won't happen, but I really hope we get a forest temple somewhere in korok forest, considering that lake saria is completely unreachable. Hestu could be the sage!
It’s actually not unreachable, the path is just somewhat well hidden by the placement of the trees and where the glowing mushrooms are placed around them.
Maybe it could show up as DLC, but I’m just getting my hopes up.😭
Hopefully!
I still don't understand how the Zonai went from "Barbarian Savages" to "Wolfkins that started Hyrule's Kingdom"
Way too much lore thrown in with 0 explanation, and in a very lazy way. I can't take the game's story seriously, which is sad. I loved BOTW so much.
Every time I reach a cutscene in ToTK, I'm rolling my eyes, annoyed. This is literally just a BOTW mod. An extensive one, well designed in some ways, but incredibly bare, boring, desolate, and just dead in much more than it should be.
What the hell was on that sandwich? Pepto Bismol salad?
Dyed with beets I think
day 233 of mentioning that on 5/6/2023 hyrule gamer made a video where, at 43.46, he spent 12 seconds simping about the ancient gerudo soldiers
Forest temple has been deforested
Cool idea, I really do like it. The only problem is that the spirit temple quest starts in faron, so it would be weird to have two dungeons in the same region. But a forest temple would be really cool. If I made the game, i would put a forest temple in Faron, and then spirit temple in Akkala, maybe as a part of a dlc.
Or necluda
Forest Temple was my favorite from Ocarina, and I've generally liked the forest-themed dungeons from each subsequent game. I forgave them for the absence in Breath of the Wild. I have feelings about this repeat offence.
But they absolutely have the potential to have a Zonai/Faron/Forest Temple as DLC! Perhaps the Ancient Hero's Aspect armor is expounded on, or augmented somehow. So much Zonai lore to delve into there.
And the only option for the companion is...
Hestu! SHALAKA!
The Secret/Sacred Stone of the Forest is lost is why.
In ocarina of time when Link and Zelda look through the window at Gannondorf, Link has the stone of forest.
When Zelda goes back in time in ToTK we see the same moment of history through her perspective. Zelda and Rauru foolishly give Gannondorf spoilers that a person named Link will defeat him. Which gives Gannondorf a reason to kill (OoT Link) before he has a chance to stop him.
Which finally gives us an explanation for the Downfall timeline beyond the player getting bored and turning OoT off. Wherever the OoT Link died is likely the resting place of the Forest Stone as well, absent from Rauru’s imprisoning war and from the history the dungeons draw from in ToTK. Perhaps we will rediscover the Forest Stone in a DLC or third game in the “of the” sequence.
It makes sense there isn't a "forest" temple because it's not an element. Fire, water, wind, and lightning are all elements. "Forest" isn't an element. What I wish this new Hyrule had was thicker forests. Something like the forest Link stumbles through in the intro of "Majora's Mask". A Redwood forest, essentially.
All existing temples had the lead-up trials which were the first part of the dungeon. Some could have been surpassed or advanced passed each's start with zonai flight devices, but generally, they required a solve-all before getting to the actual Temple.
Looking at the Spirit Temple, Thunderhead Island, and assembling of Mineru's parts are a pretty lengthy dungeon. They act very similarly and are pretty length.
There could have been a Forest "area" that was not the temple, but an actual Forest Temple would have needed its own trial and dungeon lead-up. Since all 5 were chunky on their own, plus due to all the open world exploration, a 6th might have felt too much to some players. I would have liked it but then would not have had the energy to uncover the entirety of the Depths or Sky.
So...
We've got five of the sages, correct...
And the hero...
Missing two sages by my count... Unless we're still counting Zelda, but imo, ehh...
That would leave two possible sages for a future dlc...
And would also be interested in seeing what happened now that demise is free... Or at least that's how I'm reading all of this ...
also day 17 of mentioning that on 6/6/2023 hyrule gamer made a video where, at 43.46, he spent 12 seconds simping about the ancient gerudo soldiers
Ngl i do wish TOTK has a Shadow Temple with Paya as the Sage of Shadows, it's been a while since we have a Shadow Temple; and some Sheikah representation in TOTK would be really nice since the Zonai took the spotlight like 99.9% of the entire game..picture this :
= Scourge of the Shadow Temple =
Deadhand
Side note: you were kinda right about the Zonai. They weren't in the game.
There are 2 zonai in the game. If you count the dragons technically 5, but even that is speculation. We don't know that they are zonai that ate stones. It's just a good assumption.
2 Zonai do not a civilization make. The Zonai were basically just as dead in TotK as they were in BotW.
You got some dub thoughts. I really wanted them to add a forest temple. There’s still room for DLC but I doubt they’ll do a fan service like that. Also I agree it would be awesome if they used a more tribalistic enemy like in Majora or a plant enemy. I also wanted them to add more Majora Easter eggs in general. Like I feel like it would’ve been cool if they brought the moon back and with all the floating islands it would be so cool. Idk really know how they’d include it but my one critique totk is there aren’t too many bosses for real. So idk it would’ve been cool if they brought back at least a few bosses that were revamped
Hey dude, I listen to lore and theory videos while I’m at work, I just wanted to say I think you may have overlooked the thunderhead isles. In its own way, it is somewhat of a thematically developed area on the map with the unending thunderstorm and visibility loss. While I would agree it’s not a dungeon, it is a POI within (or above) the Faron region that takes time to explore and become acclimated to. What do you think?
I do feel like the Faron region went underutilized in these titles. Its beyond optional in botw, and the Thunderhead islands, while a great quest line, still felt like they didnt maximize Faron's potential. Agree, a 5th dungeon there would have given the game some nice body to it's second-act.
I love how twilight princess is probably the only Zelda what has each themes
Forest, fire, water, Sand, Ice, Spirit, Wind, Dark, Castle.
korok forest
I was just watching theory videos and realized in Skyward Demise who talks about being defeated before has a scar on his head where link stabs him in totk. I wonder if it was intentional. It could just be a nod to other games, and the unified timeline theory seems more and more believable. Like the goddess of time tried to fix it all by messing all the timelines into one new timeline, instead of having the timelines meet up far in the future of both. Which would explain why there is familiar stuff but now of the canon history from any of the timelines. And aim waiting for the. To say the Rito came from the skyloft birds, instead of Zora.
At this point, Nintendo has simply abandoned the forest element and replaced it with wind. I feel like in previous games, hardware limitations and development timings prevented them from adding wind related gameplay segments in full swing, but with the switch era they finally can and the whole "Forest" element has been replaced with what it should've been !
What are you talking about a dungeon I won't be able to find this dungeon is a part of the game you can't go forward without completing that. are you f****** serious
I’d just like a dungeon that fixes the master sword, it had to heal for 100 years and understandably Fi is an old lady, she needs to rest, but she rested in Zelda’s noggin for at least 20,105 years and she still has to be all “hold up I need a break” every so often?
Now I hope they include a Forest Dungeon in a DLC. A special Dungeon for Link hidden in forests, like the fifth divine beast in BOTW.
Possible DLC?
Ok so -"clickbaity" title- aside, I _love_ forest dungeons in zelda. The overgrown nature aesthetic combined with ruins or some sort of mysterious place is almost inviting for the player to get lost in it exploring. I also thought about how there wasn't much in the zonai ruins now and since that was pretty much the main point of research on the zonai in botw, I wish they had a forest dungeon. It'd work SO well, like look at the room where you find mineru's mask for example! Gorgeous.
Not sure if I agree on zelda having a traditional dungeon format again as innovating the dungeons is something I do like to see! Not saying totk's are perfect though, tons to improve on. The game _technically_ had 6 dungeons cause hyrule castle gives you a heart container at the end of a boss, but I'd have liked to see them sacrifice some of the shrines (and quests for blessings) for a bit more dungeon content!
Edit: oh yeah and would totally love to explore the places in the past like where mineru was sitting, it looks so cool
I didn't mean to imply it needs the traditional dungeon format again, that would be too much tbh. Just more aspects of it, find the balance between open and old a bit more. I feel like it's still finding itself, but in a very good place with TOTK!