You probably get tired of hearing references to the movie, "Gettysburg",....but it was the character Col. Fremantle who mentioned to Gen. Armistead, "They tell me you're from an illustrious military family, and it was your uncle who defended Ft. McHenry"? - Also, during the movie, Gen Armistead often complains about having to go against one of his best friends, Gen Hancock, who is leading a Union Corps, right across the field. That might lead one to ask, whether Gen. Armistead MAY HAVE regretted fighting for the Confederates? However, during Pickett's Charge, his Brigade reached the wall that day, and it was HE, who supposedly stuck his sword through his hat to motivate his soldiers to press on to the wall, just before being shot. -- Regardless of what side he really felt was his place, he died doing his duty for the Confederate army, and despite sending his "regrets" to Gen. Hancock, he served well to the very end.
If he made it over the wall feeling regret, I'd like to have seen him fight with no regret. Another way to state your point is, regretting that the war had to happen at all is very different than regretting one's call of duty in that war.
@@brianh1161 - The only reference I have to any "regret" that Gen. Armistead MAY have had, is the way the movie "Gettysburg" portrayed it. -- The way I saw it, Armistead was sending his "regrets" to his longtime friend, Gen. Hancock, only because his regiment directly attacked Hancock's Corps. -- The way Armistead led that attack, he did not appear to have any regret at all.
Armistead never made it as far as the monument. According to Sgt. Frederick Fuger who was standing next to Lt. Alonzo Cushing when Cushing was killed, Cushing rolled his two remaining guns to the wall and was killed next to those two guns. Fuger says that Armistead came over the wall at that location and placed his hand on one of the wheels of those guns and was shot at that location. Fuger said Armistead fell seven yards from Cushing's body.
Personal accounts fascinate me. I work security at a hospital and we had a shooting right out in front of the ER. There were 5 witness to the shooting ( witch was also on camera) and each statement varied some what as to what was actually on the video.
We don't know because of his (Gettysburg) death, whether or not he would have signed an oath of amnesty post war, as Lee did, wanting to obtain his US citizenship again. I tie these together, a "regret", although I do believe their very strong allegiance/conviction to their way of life in the South. Armistead served 22 years in the U.S. Army before the war began, I do believe, when dying, ultimately he may well have regretted this, and also may have thought his death/their defeat in that battle as a sign from God... I loved Richard Jordan's portrayal of him (with Brain cancer during filming of GBurg), never mind the romanticizing.... his acting was so passionate and brilliant. Thank you, Tim! Love to see these keep coming!
'Armistead attended the United States Military Academy, joining in 1833, but resigning the same year. He rejoined in 1834 but was found deficient and had to repeat his class. In 1836, he resigned again following an incident in which he broke a plate over the head of fellow cadet (and future Confederate general) Jubal Early.' Lol! p.s. 'Armistead was of entirely English descent, and all of his ancestry had been in Virginia since the early 1600s.'
Great presentation and a situation that I think of often while reading or watching civil war history. Alot of American officers had to make that painful decision at the outbreak of that war. Some had second thoughts and felt guilty even during the war but remained loyal to there state. And this went both ways also. I would think, Armistead had to feel somewhat like he had betrayed his country and his ancestors.
We will never know how he felt about it. It’s all speculation biased by regional loyalties. The bottom line, he died, fighting for his Southern kinsmen.
Im sure he felt like obviously many did, that federal government was assuming the role British had 50 years earlier. With taxes being disproportionate, authoritarian regarding state formation and actions like the Morill Tariff. In that time it was well know that we were individual states united by a set of documents and beliefs but ones duty was to his home. I often wonder how much better it would have been if the Lincoln administration would have been more deliberative.
General Armistead had to lead his troops against those of Union General Hancock, who was regarded as one of the best soldiers at the time that the nation ever produced, both North and South. Not just that, Armistead and Hancock were dear friends from serving together in the pre-war Army. I couldn't imagine the personal conflict he must have felt; not just him, but many other individuals who found themselves with friends and family serving on the other side. Despite that, General Armistead did his duty and served with bravery and distinction.
He selected to fight in a rebellion to retain the states rights to keep slavery. He mat have done his duty to the treacherous cause but it's good that he lost as did his cause.
Didn't like his portrayal in the movie. I thought it made him look too outwardly conflicted and kind of a boob. " I wonder if Winnie is over there"? Pretty certain II Corps flags flying would have been a good indication...He was a professional soldier and a good one doing his duty and most likely didn't sob all over Adams County.
Id love to move out to Adams county area. I live in Philadelphia and I grew up loving history around Kings Highway in Northeast Philly as well as Washingtons crossing and independence hall and fort mifflin too. There is so much to see and do here. But the crime has just gotten to far out of control. I cant stand 😂😂😂 job and would need to transfer to something starting at GS 7
@@michaelglueckert7662 Yes, it's a good video. In your rush to be rude, I guess you missed my emoticon indicating that I was mainly joking. Lighten up🙄
Even though a fictional movie; Nicholas Cage got it correct in National Treasure 2. Before the Civil War, most people did not identify as American's, instead they identified with where they were from. Most people did not travel far from their homes, unless they were settlers going West. The Civil War, horrible as it was, solidified our country as one, it ended the terrible institution of slavery and helped extend our nation from sea to sea.
You didnt mention that General Armistead’s best friend was Union General Winfield Scott Hancock who was the union Corps commander of the Union line that he assaulted. Truly one of the tragedies of the war.
The Armisteads of the war of 1812 were from a plantation in Caroline county Virginia, in the Deep South near Richmond. Its likely that had the civil war broke out when the war of 1812 had, that the elder Armistead would have fought for the Confederacy. Time and circumstance made the elder Armistead a war hero, however knowing he was a slave holder this does not mean he was a ‘good man’, or that he would always be on the side of righteousness. A few years later his nephew would be branded a traitor to the United States, and was responsible for trying to destroy the very thing his elders had fought for (freedom, for all). Seems likely the elder Armistead would have agreed and sided with the younger.
I forgot to add the most important thing. I love these videos! Tim, you are an excellent wealth of information and the way you deliver it is fun entertaining and engaging! I’ve learned so much from you all, and can’t thank you enough!!!
Sounds like apologist thought to say Armistead was forced to join the Confederacy. My ancestors, in North Carolina, left behind property and slaves and came to Indiana, a great great uncle fighting in the Indiana regiment. Armistead was on the very wrong side and his loyalty was with bankers and slave traders. God Bless the United States of America!
Come on... give it a break. How can you presume to sit in judgement of people that lived and died so long ago? Times and people were different then. No apologists here .... but you should apologize for yo uh r comment.
@@robynperdieu3434 Then Give evidence for your claim that Armistead’s loyalty was to bankers and slave traders. We can certainly have a civil discussion if youd like to post claims backed up by primary source evidence. All youve done in your replies has essentially been “no yours is ignorant “ and “no you apologize”. You made the claim so burden of proof is on you.
Always a good morning seeing these videos from Tim and with a good cup of coffee to make the morning right!
Very thought provoking! Videos like this make me want to visit the site and crack open books. Good job!
You probably get tired of hearing references to the movie, "Gettysburg",....but it was the character Col. Fremantle who mentioned to Gen. Armistead, "They tell me you're from an illustrious military family, and it was your uncle who defended Ft. McHenry"? - Also, during the movie, Gen Armistead often complains about having to go against one of his best friends, Gen Hancock, who is leading a Union Corps, right across the field. That might lead one to ask, whether Gen. Armistead MAY HAVE regretted fighting for the Confederates? However, during Pickett's Charge, his Brigade reached the wall that day, and it was HE, who supposedly stuck his sword through his hat to motivate his soldiers to press on to the wall, just before being shot. -- Regardless of what side he really felt was his place, he died doing his duty for the Confederate army, and despite sending his "regrets" to Gen. Hancock, he served well to the very end.
Correction. Hancock was leading an entire Corps, not merely a brigade.
@@billlawrence1899 I stand corrected. Thanks for catching my error.
@@cfonde Glad to help. I make them all the time. That one just happened to catch my eye. Cheers.
If he made it over the wall feeling regret, I'd like to have seen him fight with no regret. Another way to state your point is, regretting that the war had to happen at all is very different than regretting one's call of duty in that war.
@@brianh1161 - The only reference I have to any "regret" that Gen. Armistead MAY have had, is the way the movie "Gettysburg" portrayed it. -- The way I saw it, Armistead was sending his "regrets" to his longtime friend, Gen. Hancock, only because his regiment directly attacked Hancock's Corps. -- The way Armistead led that attack, he did not appear to have any regret at all.
Nicely done Tim!
Armistead never made it as far as the monument. According to Sgt. Frederick Fuger who was standing next to Lt. Alonzo Cushing when Cushing was killed, Cushing rolled his two remaining guns to the wall and was killed next to those two guns. Fuger says that Armistead came over the wall at that location and placed his hand on one of the wheels of those guns and was shot at that location. Fuger said Armistead fell seven yards from Cushing's body.
Interesting. Thank you for you uh r comment
Personal accounts fascinate me. I work security at a hospital and we had a shooting right out in front of the ER. There were 5 witness to the shooting ( witch was also on camera) and each statement varied some what as to what was actually on the video.
Seems that rolling your guns to the wall would make it inconvenient to service. An artillery officer would not do that.
It's nice that you take your son to see a baseball game. But how do you keep Gary quite during the ride ?
We don't know because of his (Gettysburg) death, whether or not he would have signed an oath of amnesty post war, as Lee did, wanting to obtain his US citizenship again. I tie these together, a "regret", although I do believe their very strong allegiance/conviction to their way of life in the South. Armistead served 22 years in the U.S. Army before the war began, I do believe, when dying, ultimately he may well have regretted this, and also may have thought his death/their defeat in that battle as a sign from God... I loved Richard Jordan's portrayal of him (with Brain cancer during filming of GBurg), never mind the romanticizing.... his acting was so passionate and brilliant. Thank you, Tim! Love to see these keep coming!
Thank you! So interesting!
Great information thank you for sharing
'Armistead attended the United States Military Academy, joining in 1833, but resigning the same year. He rejoined in 1834 but was found deficient and had to repeat his class. In 1836, he resigned again following an incident in which he broke a plate over the head of fellow cadet (and future Confederate general) Jubal Early.'
Lol!
p.s. 'Armistead was of entirely English descent, and all of his ancestry had been in Virginia since the early 1600s.'
The Civil War is filled with tragedy and irony illustrated by the Armistead story.
I stood there and I can't explain how much it meant. It connects you to the fallen men.
Great presentation and a situation that I think of often while reading or watching civil war history. Alot of American officers had to make that painful decision at the outbreak of that war. Some had second thoughts and felt guilty even during the war but remained loyal to there state. And this went both ways also. I would think, Armistead had to feel somewhat like he had betrayed his country and his ancestors.
We will never know how he felt about it. It’s all speculation biased by regional loyalties. The bottom line, he died, fighting for his Southern kinsmen.
Im sure he felt like obviously many did, that federal government was assuming the role British had 50 years earlier. With taxes being disproportionate, authoritarian regarding state formation and actions like the Morill Tariff. In that time it was well know that we were individual states united by a set of documents and beliefs but ones duty was to his home. I often wonder how much better it would have been if the Lincoln administration would have been more deliberative.
General Armistead had to lead his troops against those of Union General Hancock, who was regarded as one of the best soldiers at the time that the nation ever produced, both North and South. Not just that, Armistead and Hancock were dear friends from serving together in the pre-war Army. I couldn't imagine the personal conflict he must have felt; not just him, but many other individuals who found themselves with friends and family serving on the other side. Despite that, General Armistead did his duty and served with bravery and distinction.
He selected to fight in a rebellion to retain the states rights to keep slavery. He mat have done his duty to the treacherous cause but it's good that he lost as did his cause.
Didn't like his portrayal in the movie. I thought it made him look too outwardly conflicted and kind of a boob. " I wonder if Winnie is over there"? Pretty certain II Corps flags flying would have been a good indication...He was a professional soldier and a good one doing his duty and most likely didn't sob all over Adams County.
Armistead was not as portrayed in the movie, he was hardened by several years of war and was not a mamby pamby!
Yeah that story line, while compelling, got way too much screen time.
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Id love to move out to Adams county area. I live in Philadelphia and I grew up loving history around Kings Highway in Northeast Philly as well as Washingtons crossing and independence hall and fort mifflin too. There is so much to see and do here. But the crime has just gotten to far out of control. I cant stand 😂😂😂 job and would need to transfer to something starting at GS 7
This video is more about George Armistead rather than Lewis Armistead.😆
Sir a still awesome video and piece of history! Quit whining!
@@michaelglueckert7662 Yes, it's a good video. In your rush to be rude, I guess you missed my emoticon indicating that I was mainly joking. Lighten up🙄
I don't "like' your channel. I 'love" your channel. Keep up the great work and Thank You for keeping history alive.
I believe he’s buried in green mount cemetery in Baltimore
Correction old St. Paul’s cemetery in Baltimore
Even though a fictional movie; Nicholas Cage got it correct in National Treasure 2. Before the Civil War, most people did not identify as American's, instead they identified with where they were from. Most people did not travel far from their homes, unless they were settlers going West. The Civil War, horrible as it was, solidified our country as one, it ended the terrible institution of slavery and helped extend our nation from sea to sea.
God Bless...
You didnt mention that General Armistead’s best friend was Union General Winfield Scott Hancock who was the union Corps commander of the Union line that he assaulted. Truly one of the tragedies of the war.
Well, probably because that’s not exactly true. They were friends, but probably not best friends.
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I disagree. The literature says different.
@@jpz2jz what literature? The Killer Angels?
@@McNair39thNC
Thats fiction
Tim’s the best
The Armisteads of the war of 1812 were from a plantation in Caroline county Virginia, in the Deep South near Richmond. Its likely that had the civil war broke out when the war of 1812 had, that the elder Armistead would have fought for the Confederacy.
Time and circumstance made the elder Armistead a war hero, however knowing he was a slave holder this does not mean he was a ‘good man’, or that he would always be on the side of righteousness.
A few years later his nephew would be branded a traitor to the United States, and was responsible for trying to destroy the very thing his elders had fought for (freedom, for all).
Seems likely the elder Armistead would have agreed and sided with the younger.
I forgot to add the most important thing.
I love these videos! Tim, you are an excellent wealth of information and the way you deliver it is fun entertaining and engaging! I’ve learned so much from you all, and can’t thank you enough!!!
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Sounds like apologist thought to say Armistead was forced to join the Confederacy. My ancestors, in North Carolina, left behind property and slaves and came to Indiana, a great great uncle fighting in the Indiana regiment. Armistead was on the very wrong side and his loyalty was with bankers and slave traders. God Bless the United States of America!
Come on... give it a break. How can you presume to sit in judgement of people that lived and died so long ago? Times and people were different then. No apologists here .... but you should apologize for yo uh r comment.
“His loyalty was with bankers and slave traders”, this is an incredibly ignorant statement
@@gerggerggy7757 i could say the same about yours.
@@stevestringer7351 you should apologize for your comment.
@@robynperdieu3434 Then Give evidence for your claim that Armistead’s loyalty was to bankers and slave traders. We can certainly have a civil discussion if youd like to post claims backed up by primary source evidence. All youve done in your replies has essentially been “no yours is ignorant “ and “no you apologize”. You made the claim so burden of proof is on you.