@@dracocrash1 It's shitting on riot, but for a reason. No, this specific bug wasn't reported by vandiril or others. BUT vandiril reported many bugs WAY ahead of time and some still went live or happened in an officila tournament. And at this point its just riots fault.
@@kleinernerd1073you know the known bugs are listed before the offical tournaments and when they happened players can pause the game and can ask for chrono brake. They cant fix it in time so they give list of bugs to all teams for all known gamebreaking bugs. This was not a known bug earlier though.
@@bloodthirstytft7416honestly it's a shit system though. Imagine having to play a game at the top level and needing to recognize bugs that are so subtle unu I mean usually it's not something that would sway the game but still.. not ideal.
the rell ult pulls rakan slightly when he running away, I think it's the game charm mechanic has a tick between rakan get pulled and he step away that make rakan appear in ( x1 ;y1 ) for incredibly short amount, when sylas enter ( x1 ; y1 ) the charm wasn't ready. If that's true I think the opposite can happens
Should be some form of sub-tick ordering shenanigans. Could be something like sylas rakan ult checks if theres a champion inside of the aura -> rell ult pulls rakan -> rakan ult checks if theres anyone inside of the aura. Would make sense from a backend perspective, as all of these abilities probably fall under the "HItbox check" stage of the gamestate proccessing program, and player ordering is used to determine the order in which hitboxes resolve. Wouldnt be a bug then, just a weird quirk of the game engine thats normally never seen. A way to test this hypothesis could maybe be something like making sure rell isnt betwen sylas and rakan in player order, and seeing if the interaction is still replicable maybe.
Yes, I also suspect that some ordering of calculation in a single tick is the reason. But I still do think it’s a bug. If stuff like that decides if someone is charmed or not charmed, it’s not intended. I think it’s comparable to that WW bug with a lot of healing depending on buff order.
I wonder if it's a tikrate problem or the hitbox of the charm is being pulled behind and the game forgets to pull the actual hitbox of rakan or it's because the river is coded as a stream of minions
What about other forms of cc other than rell ult? Maybe it has something to do with rakan getting affected by a knockup that makes him "immune" to Sylas' stolen charm? Or is it unique to rell because of the magnetic field she has on her ult?
prolly the cause was that the behind part of the ultimate is bad programmed, did you try to get sylas chasing rakan the both on ult,in case was that the ult on the back part is shorter than in the front?
not even, no one was in position to attack rakan anyway, rumble ult zoned the 2 that could follow up immediately and galio ult came after sylas (and presumably rakan) got out of charm, so rakan could get away regardless, and with more health since got hit by ez ult mid dash only because he wasn't charmed.
I don't think this is a bug... But rather the quirky interaction between the Rell ult and the timing of the charms. Cause if it is a bug, then it should and could be replicated without rell... The fact that this occurs only when in Rells ult means its more of an interaction issue
I wonder if there's a wonky spaghetti code causing the hitbox to morph inward into Rell's ult like a glitchy deformation causing Sylas to fail his charm hitbox
@@HextechLab An argument could totally be made here for Rakan potentially dying and this being a 1 for 1 fight but at the end of the day I don't think this swings the game.
this honestly doesn't feel like a bug, more of a bigger hitbox from behind on rakan, and lucky spacing. The question is can sylas still charm rakan afterwards or not? that would be a bug
Rakan and Sylas have exactly the same hitbox (65 units). When Rakan is close enough to charm Sylas, he automatically has be close enough to be charmed by Sylas. It's the CC of Rell ult which interacts with this.
I mean it makes sense dummy thicc Rakan can hit Sylas with his behind but Sylas can't do the same.
i put a new forgis on the jeep
@@sadkat9162 hahahahaah...
Now the real question is why I know this meme...
@@eZeerobecause you saw uma musume singing it
@@arigatameiwaku ...who...?
@@eZeero horse girl meme
Pickem should have "How many bugs will occur"
and "none" is permanently grayed out in the options
If only the bugs were reported multiple times ahead of time oh wait
do you know anyone that reported this exact bug or just shitting on riot for no reason?
@@dracocrash1if only it were for no reason oh wait
@@dracocrash1 It's shitting on riot, but for a reason. No, this specific bug wasn't reported by vandiril or others. BUT vandiril reported many bugs WAY ahead of time and some still went live or happened in an officila tournament. And at this point its just riots fault.
@@kleinernerd1073you know the known bugs are listed before the offical tournaments and when they happened players can pause the game and can ask for chrono brake. They cant fix it in time so they give list of bugs to all teams for all known gamebreaking bugs. This was not a known bug earlier though.
@@bloodthirstytft7416honestly it's a shit system though. Imagine having to play a game at the top level and needing to recognize bugs that are so subtle unu I mean usually it's not something that would sway the game but still.. not ideal.
the rell ult pulls rakan slightly when he running away, I think it's the game charm mechanic has a tick between rakan get pulled and he step away that make rakan appear in ( x1 ;y1 ) for incredibly short amount, when sylas enter ( x1 ; y1 ) the charm wasn't ready. If that's true I think the opposite can happens
"We managed to reproduce" bro is a proper scientist writing a paper.
Conclusion :
The owner >> the bootleg
Cant have good worlds without at least 3 bugs
The bugs are good worlds 😎
*10
Should be some form of sub-tick ordering shenanigans. Could be something like sylas rakan ult checks if theres a champion inside of the aura -> rell ult pulls rakan -> rakan ult checks if theres anyone inside of the aura. Would make sense from a backend perspective, as all of these abilities probably fall under the "HItbox check" stage of the gamestate proccessing program, and player ordering is used to determine the order in which hitboxes resolve. Wouldnt be a bug then, just a weird quirk of the game engine thats normally never seen. A way to test this hypothesis could maybe be something like making sure rell isnt betwen sylas and rakan in player order, and seeing if the interaction is still replicable maybe.
Yes, I also suspect that some ordering of calculation in a single tick is the reason.
But I still do think it’s a bug. If stuff like that decides if someone is charmed or not charmed, it’s not intended. I think it’s comparable to that WW bug with a lot of healing depending on buff order.
I wonder if it's a tikrate problem or the hitbox of the charm is being pulled behind and the game forgets to pull the actual hitbox of rakan or it's because the river is coded as a stream of minions
Fuck I forget almost everything is coded as a minion in this game
@@reginaldmustardbacon5866 even champion abilities are coded as minions btw
hit boxes in "pull" move ahead of the model ?
I was thinking this doesn't matter but tbh if Tian on Viego can R a charmed Rakan, maybe that turns the fight?
What about other forms of cc other than rell ult? Maybe it has something to do with rakan getting affected by a knockup that makes him "immune" to Sylas' stolen charm? Or is it unique to rell because of the magnetic field she has on her ult?
so rell r makes rakan r hitbox get dragged too? so rakan gets a minion on top of him when r-ing?
i saw in worlds when someone got charmed or feared idk he can still aa something is that a bug ?
I don't see this as a bug actually, not in the real sense. It looks as if the ability hitbox is just bigger behind the champion that its own hitbox?
facing the same direction, it is kinda of isane to me that you did not test that
prolly the cause was that the behind part of the ultimate is bad programmed, did you try to get sylas chasing rakan the both on ult,in case was that the ult on the back part is shorter than in the front?
Have you tried the other way around.? Sylas running away
Damm that charm would've given TES maybe a kill that game and a chance. To get 3-0'd in more time of 5 mins maybe
not even, no one was in position to attack rakan anyway, rumble ult zoned the 2 that could follow up immediately and galio ult came after sylas (and presumably rakan) got out of charm, so rakan could get away regardless, and with more health since got hit by ez ult mid dash only because he wasn't charmed.
Not sure It's so tight
Conclusion: Sylas
Sylas fell harder for Rakan apparently
That rakussy
:)) Even If that was a bug, T1 surely didn't know and abuse it unlike like some team.
0-15 100% Bug
I don't think this is a bug... But rather the quirky interaction between the Rell ult and the timing of the charms. Cause if it is a bug, then it should and could be replicated without rell... The fact that this occurs only when in Rells ult means its more of an interaction issue
Calling it quirky doesn't change the fact that it's a bug lol.
@@朕是神 it does... Cause again, its not a bug, but a quirky interaction. If you can do it without Rell, then please do so and return here....
@@nightslayer5066 Ok bud.
TES VS GENG?
I wonder if there's a wonky spaghetti code causing the hitbox to morph inward into Rell's ult like a glitchy deformation causing Sylas to fail his charm hitbox
That's not how circles work
@@Javano_ it's just speculation cuz anything can happen with riot's coding
Its because Rankan is the actually hot and sylas isnt...
can't wait for tes fan to use this as an excuse the same way they use the karthus bug excuse when they got eliminated by GAM
Here, it wouldn't have changed anything. But in GAM vs. TES, there is a high chance TES would have won without the Maw bug.
lol got slapped in the mouth pretty quick huh?😅
guy created a fake just to post lies
@@HextechLab if rakan E's through sylas using rakan ult, does it interupt the dash or would he dash and then walk back to sylas?
@@HextechLab An argument could totally be made here for Rakan potentially dying and this being a 1 for 1 fight but at the end of the day I don't think this swings the game.
If it was G2. They would've spotted that miles away
this honestly doesn't feel like a bug, more of a bigger hitbox from behind on rakan, and lucky spacing. The question is can sylas still charm rakan afterwards or not? that would be a bug
Rakan and Sylas have exactly the same hitbox (65 units). When Rakan is close enough to charm Sylas, he automatically has be close enough to be charmed by Sylas. It's the CC of Rell ult which interacts with this.
Ezreal ult did no dmg to faker at start also
did not hit
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When you lose team fight, say it's a bug.