JOKER Angry Movie Review
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Angryjoe, OtherJoe & Alex review the controversial and iconic villain of the DC universe JOKER, played this time by Joaquin Phoenix. Is this one of the better DC films or does it fail to capture the character? Find out!
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Joker Angry Movie Review Rating:
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AJ - 8/10 w/ Bad Ass Seal
OJ - 7/10
Alex - 7/10
If Alex rates it a 7 then it is a 10/10
I wonder what you guys think of the Gotham tv show’s version of the Joker. I think it’s a strange way to do it but it could work out
Well tod Phillips did say this is not a joker movie at all so I guess it’s ok if it doesn’t feel like one
*DC movie
@@Dude_115 I would like to know that too but I doubt they watch 5 seasons or just the joker parts.
“This doesn’t feel like a DC movie.” That’s an unintentionally ringing endorsement to me.
Lol fanboys would say something like that
@@michaelmyersplays4992 well to be fair the last really good DC movie was the dark Knight.
Dceu* dark knight trilogy was good
@@jamestreveil4866 You're absolutely right... best DC movies are the ones nothing to do with comics. I don't know why it's bad thing for some people considering the shit DC movies we've been getting past few years...
@@jamestreveil4866 dark knight is a masterpiece destroys any marvel movie
"as he loses his gf" well I guess I missed something because I was pretty sure she was never his girlfriend
These fellas dont seem like they get it at all... they didnt get the dillusion of the girl (well the one guy didn't) or why he killed De Niro...
Not trying to argue. But 30 seconds after that statement about losing his girlfriend. The guy on the far left corrects him and reminds him it was all in Flecks head.
So they did know that. He didnt at first until he was corrected
We don’t actually know wether or not she was. It seems like she was but also seems like she wasn’t. They haven’t confirmed either yet so it’s still up for interpretation
@@horationelson1840 nah. The way she was historical when he entered her apartment gave it away. That they have never met each other, outside passing eacother in the halls.
other joe corrects angry joe but the reason why aj said it like that was because he believes that it can't all be made up. Except if you have watch the film it was quite clear when the girl started panicking and not knowing his name when she found arthur in her apartment.
I feel like they were paying as much attention as the therapist
The 43rd Firedemon lol
Ooof
They say that it is 3 o'clock in the morning at the beginning, makes you wonder how "woke" they were while watching it
These guys need to stop reviewing stuff already. They use the word “origin story” and forget that this is his BEGINNING. His cunning evil roots sprung up as a cause of his trauma.
I know right haha
“Whenever Phoenix was on screen I was glued”
That’s the whole film you nut
😂 that’s like 99.99999% of the movie
That's one of the things that made me think they weren't paying attention or something. Phoenix is literally in every single scene. XD
😂
I was about to say its shot from his perspective so hes in pretty much ever scene.
Right!! Lol
Alex doesn’t even need to show up anymore, just a sign that says “It wasn’t what I wanted”
Alex for some reason is really unlikeable
PirateChest
he has a really smarmy vibe
I'm not actually saying this to be a smartass, but I genuinely cannot remember a single review where he didn't have *some* kind of "it wasn't what I was expecting/wanted" moment. Even in reviews of movies he liked.
It's really fucking insufferable, imo.
@@SalvationCode I agree, he comes off like he thinks he's the writing, cinematic extraordinaire that feels all entertainment must adapt to him and his standards. But, at least he's honest and doesn't seem to bandwagon as much. Whether that's out of spite or taste I dont know.
Beau Mcquat you definitely could have stopped at “Alex doesn’t even need to show up anymore”
Alex: “This doesn’t feel like a DC movie”
Arthur Fleck: “You don’t listen, do you?”
I’m crying
I hope Alex finally gets he fucking deserved
See the thing is is that how do you know if this all happened in the movie you clearly can tell that it was hallucination you don't know if it really happened or not it could it could not be his backstory he's a mystery it's all multiple choice when I left the movie theater I had so many questions
@@someguywithnochallenger8178 actually it was delusions, not hallucinations.
@@ingeniousdesign6125 either way you never know if it was the real background story there's so many evidence
Movie : alternate joker storyline
Them : this is not like the joker we know
Wow so many likes!! Thanks everyone
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yep, DC made it pretty clear that this is actually not a joker from the batman universe movie, and never will be.
which is why i don't care too much bout it ;)
@@inthaniak that's fair. I cant wait to see it but I have a nasty habit of filling in backstories in movies where they dont give you one so it sounds to me like this Joker is what I always imagined heath kedgers Joker was like before he fully broke. In my mind (again I havent seen it yet) this could have been a prequel to Heaths. (If it took place later of course)
This
@@inthaniak I bet DC will Decide to have a joker batman movie if juaquine pheonix wants to
@@Coltrain207 hehe, what would that "RL" batman be? american psycho? or rather.. gotham psycho. or more the shining version of batman? "heeeeere is brucey!"
and as i said before, even tho i will most likely not watch it, it might be a good movie, duno, don't care ;) cant be the target group of every movie i guess.
the only clown i care about in those years is comming with the next spawn movie if you ask me. "send in the clowns, and die laughing!"
“This movie just didn’t feel like a DC movie.” Well yeah that’s because it’s not shit lmao
TJ forreal I don’t think any DC movie that was supposed to be “traditional” comic like is ever good . That’s why I also hate Marvel movies because they’re so childish. I’ll take the darkness of Todd Phillips and Christopher Nolan interpretations any day .
@@nicholasmontoto9346 i prefer movies that are crafted with precision and depthness rather than movies that are filled with cgi cliche motifs.
How is this not a DC film?Its a DC character soooooo it’s a DC film.
it is a DC movie lol I don't think DC has an actual style they always try different things with their films
DopamineDreams Read the comments you moron.
"All I have are negative thoughts"- Alex with every movie review
Funniest comment so far hahaha
Straight up EVERY single movie review they've done is him always complaining always...
& we’re not listening.
I think I recalled him nitpicking Endgame's logic with Strange organizing everyone so fast. That's the complaint about the movie that I hated seeing the most. Lmao
I actually look forward to his thoughts on movies because if he says it's a good movie then it's probably a masterpiece lol
Alex: "It doesn't feel like a DC movie"
Me: "This is exactly what a DC movie should feel like!"
TRUE. They clearly have never read a dc comic. DC comics is clearly for a more mature audience which they are definitely not. More punching and jumping plz.
I can tell this guys never read any of the DC Black Label
no cgi make him confused xD
Alex prefers DC movies to be more like Marvel movies.
Joker is mirroring the movies: TAXI DRIVER and KING OF COMEDY
“This just feels different” Yea that’s the point Alex
to me I wasn't sold on it as the joker, if it was named any other title I would have went damn fine movie. XD
i dont fw Alex. Homie stays complaining about anything. I thought the movie was good and it felt more real than anything
He was so annoying
It feels different because this guy could barely put his shoes on, but we are suppose to believe he becomes the Joker.
@@lexis4490 yes you dumb fuck. That point about the shoes is the stupidest thing. I'm pretty sure once he's confident Joker he will put his shoes on fine. My God are people missing the point of the fucking movie? He is at his lowest pathetic point on his life. BuT hE CoULDNT PuT hIS ShOeS On!
the sympathetic route was lazy? this whole review was lazy.
@@Lol-bt6vs joker's mother was at least as away from "black and white" character design as joker was
he was sympathetic from start to finish even though he turned evil at the end anyway. This is so hard to do, and joe just doesnt get it.
You sound like a butthurt maggot
@@slugger2994 I think Uriel copy pasted this from somewhere. The film has plenty of morally grey characters. The only characters that are completely evil are Randall, and the subway dudes. Thomas wayne isnt even that bad, yea he does not understand the commonfolk and is pretentious but he was quite tolerant against arthur given that he came to his house and touched his son in a very weird way. Murray although being kinda like the evil-TV guy does have his own understanding of ethics which he shows right before Arthur kills him. Even the clown place guy who fires him isnt all bad. He is a very ignorant person, still shows sympathy towards a mentally ill person he doesnt understand. The woman on the bus that gets angry at first is shown to feel bad about it later.
Arthur sees these people as evil, but we the audience do have a clear perspective
fortnite is the best game right?
*Everyone:* "why are you always so negative?"
*Alex:* "All I have are negative thoughts"
LMAO
LMAO
😂😂😂😂
So good
LMAO
“This doesn’t feel like a DC movie” You mean this doesn’t feel like DC imitating Marvel?
They obviously don’t want DC to go into a different direction like this movie did. They want DC to continue being diet Marvel
@@nolandavis1129 I personally enjoy the darker DC movies. The only DC universe movie I enjoyed was Man Of Steel and that was before the connected movies kicked off.
the movies never represents the joker, instead it feels like another movie, as another movie it is great and spectacular but as a joker film i think it fails.
@@tokyopp bruh. How dosent it feel like a Joker movie? This movie is a great Joker movie.
Arthur Fleck: “You don’t listen do you?”
Just a tip: When you critique a movie, you critique what the movie IS, not what you want it to be.
Hum, not really.
Even tough, this is a review. "I wanted joker to be more like comic joker" isnt a critique
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@Tattle Boad But "our idea" is opinion based, if we critic a movie based on what WE wanted, then it would be satisfying for only us (biased). Now if we critic things within a movie and remove our personal preferences, it would be a more logical and professional way to critic a movie so others can agree with you at certain levels (even if they want to be in denial) , but if you critic the movie based on what you personally wanted... most people won't relate to your review
@WolfThorn "What's so funny?"
"I was thinking of a joke."
"Want to tell it to me?"
"....you wouldn't get it."
Alex espically has a real problem with this.
@Tattle Boad There's a difference between review the movie from a personal bias and a personal preference
For Example: If someone said, Phoenix wasn't like Ledger... I'm disappointed
That would be an irrelevant critic, since they both are the same "character" but not person, and those characters have 2 different stories
Sure you can compare their performances but not fully compare their Jokers ☝🏻
Long story short, to critic the movie you need to critic what you liked and disliked within the movie and not involve an opinion outside the realm of the movie
You could bring it up in Chat, but not as a professional critic
He was more positive about Suicide Squad. Let that sink in.
Ozzie Solo joker is better than suicide squad but....joker is the most overrated DC movie of all time
@@StraightEdgeKnight19 eh, maybe. I don't find it overrated personally, I'm glad that a movie like this is getting so much attention and the CONSTRUCTIVE discussions of what we all liked and disliked about it are fun, atleast when people don't just call it sh*t and call you "a edgy 14 year old" for liking it. The fact that so many people of different ages love a movie LIKE THIS is good.
@Double Darrel bvs ultimate edition>joker
Ozzie Solo opinions... you might have heard about them?
@@Herman_Hedning Yes, opinions like the comment I've posted. So what's your point?
"Jared leto is more scary and a better Joker than this one. He can't even tie his shoes!" Really?... Ok you lost any credibility with that statement alone...
But he has "damaged" tattooed on his head! Very scary!
@@watchmewhipbruh1095 And Jared Leto mailed condoms and rats to his colleagues in the Suicide Squad, totally a brilliant Joker move!!!!
Jared lettos laugh sounds like the door screaching when u open it
Jared Leto joker was terrible imo. I hated the kinda party boy take on joker plus suicide squad was just a horribly done film.
I think they do this review (all aboout "Joker is bad movie, Leto was better) just for views. Thats give clicks.
DC does a good movie:
Alex: I don’t like this. It doesn’t feel like a DC movie
AFTER COMPLAINING DC MOVIES WERENT GOOD TOO. Smh
Agents it’s like “it’s not marvel so I don’t like it’s style”. Just watch marvel do this sort of thing in a few years and Alex praise it
@@sauravs6602 Dude I predicted that years ago.
haha i was like wtf with that comment as well XD
That guy is a fucking idiot saying he doesnt see him as a villain “but yea he killed a couple of ppl but hes not really a villain” joker just started to enjoy being a psychopath killer.
Lmao 'this feels like a standalone film, so points off for that' - it's literally a stand alone film.
Its most likely going to have a sequel
Wolfgang god I hope not. Just leave it be.
nick robertson why? A sequel would be great. We’ve had the origin of the joker and now we could have a movie based on the joker character rather then just Arthur. They can go in so many directions
They could show him delve deeper into madness while in Arkham and introduce Harley and watch him transform her
JC 20 no, they will try and replicate the feel of this one and fail, I know it. Especially if it’s being pushed by the studio and not Phillips himself, I just think they should leave it alone.
This review is the perfect example of when Joker said: “You wouldn’t get it.”
a boring movie. not even a smart movie. just boring to watch.
Robert LoremIpsum I don’t remember joker being described as an action packed thriller with machine guns and rockets
@@trashboat2687 I didn't talked about movies with "machine guns and rockets", which i don't like (no issue if people do). I said, not a smart movie and i stick to it, whatever your imagination of me is. It's just a flat movie, boring without beeing clever, bad script, i even know his "gf" is not real from the beginning (ok, maybe a lucky guess). The director is not a scorses, which is movies still show. The 63% rating on rotten is correct for this one. On the other hand, if you see it as a puzzle piece, the movie had very very good pieces which didn't made a great picture. Acting was great.
Robert LoremIpsum thanks for clarifying
@@artavenuebln every normal person would notice gf is a delusion. At that point everyone knows Arthur is suffering from delusions and there was no realistic context to be in relationship with the woman.
I usually respect Alex’s opinion but he seriously missed the entire point of this movie
The ending blows up the whole plot
@@lillones well do you know if it's real?
@@nicoargamosa5563 well, i can definitively say that it is fiction. However the ending seems to show how real the story is within its own universe
He didn't miss the point. He saw it in his own way. My views are different. Doesnt me we disagree. Means we haven't spoken about it.
Ali Zayn why are you such an asshole? Really making me understand why nobody cares about you now.
"It's not really a superhero movie so it's only okay."
What an infantile take.
Oh god you’re going to be that edgy guy who over analyses everything and adds interpretation where there is non and call this a masterpiece? Lol
@@si_quest You're edgy af
김범주 indeed.
You sound like s marvel stan
@@si_quest What are you doing sitting down for a 40 minite movie review if you aren't here for an analysis of the film.
watches first 5 minutes of this review
me: Ight imma head out.
you probably shouldn't ever watch anyone's review on anything, then
@@SnakeGeo They probably should have given this another watch before reviewing it.
Billy Ganoush they probably just shouldnt have reviewed it
@Cobra Kai Student It's a meme template....
Omg get out of here
“Society doesn’t want a mirror. They want a filter”
And Joker holds a mirror towards society, towards the viewer, and towards himself. He forces each of them to look at the darkness that lies inside every human, and he does try to fight against such darkness, but ultimately fails and breaks apart.
"loses his girlfriend"
Holy shit man, did you fall asleep in the theater?!
Even in jokers imagination he can’t get to 2nd base
HornCornTV he did tho he kissed her when he walked to her apartment
@@palanch89 that was an hallucination
@@dancingiguana2309 The comment said "even in his imagination Joker cant get to 2nd base" Yet in Jokers imagination he kissed (and likely banged) the lady friend down the hall.
Does anyone think Arthur killed the next door neighbor and they didn't show it? I thought i saw blood a
On his left arm (looking at him his right) when he went home and all those lights and sirens out the window and what I thought i heard was running down his hallway which could have been paramedics. I need to see this again.
Alex: "I don't like that it doesn't connect to the comics but I like that it doesn't."
Angry Joe: *Visible confusion*
Audience: *Collective confusion*
Other Joe: *Confused confusion*
Exactly!, I was so shocked too, when OJ rate it 7/10. he was corrupted by Alex
what minute?
@@MrAlexandru44 wasn't really a certain time stamp just more of an overview.
I like Alex but holy fuck
Subliminal Messages dude EVERY SINGLE REVIEW he nitpicks like nonstop "it's good...BUT!"
never forget, these people love suicide squad.
couldnt agree more there is a colossal difference between these two movies for example Joker actually has brilliant script and acting. This movie actually makes you think about what is going on with our society these days and why we behaving ourselvs and what comes out of it, This is just the best movie of the year
@Gungey Entertainment first of all the gave joker 8/10 and angry joe is the only one to like sucide squad and theres nothing wrong with that
@@johnnygodxxx9005 Yes there fucking is😂😂
They don’t tho
Gungey Entertainment no they didn’t dumbass
This is like watching 3 guys try and put together an Ikea entertainment center and finish with 26 extra pieces ...
😂😂🤣🤣
Lol
This is not a DCEU film. Its a standalone original story not meant to connect to the BVS/Suicide Squad universe. Hes not gonna use joybuzzers and chattering bomb teeth or acid flowers. I loved seeing Arthurs metamorphasis from feeling like a nobody, to a confident killer. He found his purpose, he became who he was meant to be.
I wish this was part of the dceu... joybuzzers and acid flowers dont define the joker, his mentality does. *spoilers*
This movie is a "joke" told by the joker, which is true to form. Heath was a great joker, but this movie defines his personalitiy, and is also a great believable back story
agree with the top half of your comment, but dude, Arthur was never meant to be a confident killer. Like, he was just meant to be someone he was passionate about being; a confident comedian. The point of Arthur's descent into darkness was to highlight the tragedy that he never could realize his true potential
Mate. Joker hasn't used joybuzzers, chattering teeth, or acid flowers in a movie since the 1989 movie. Maybe Lego Batman. But The Dark Knight and Suicide Squad it was just guns and knives.
The cool thing is, in the comic jokers identity is not actually known asides from other multiverse story lines where the name Jack Napier is thrown around, he is adopted so his name may not actually be Arthur but actually be unknown. Just as the comic version is.
@@TrueBlueMajikDewd true. But i was encompassing all of them including the animated series and videogames
Director Tod Phillips: I wanna take a realistic look at the Joker
These guys: this movie was too realistic.
Yes because it's "realistic" to have him play a crying, baby-back bitch who whines and moans about rich people.
< Not what the Joker is at all.
Maybe he should've just called it something else?
Vgpl0 no it’s a perfectly good, unique take on the well known villain.
@@Vgpl0 God forbid you don't get the exact same thing over and over and over until the fucking sun burns out.
Vgpl0 I understand your point tbf mate. If you’re after a standard old school original comic book villain story then yeah they won’t go down this route. They never really used to use empathy with villains, I’ve noticed it’s a very growing trend.
However, this isn’t ever going to connect to the batman films etc and this is almost just like a separate origin story. Just an idea per say. I think it’s an interesting perspective to give- if you’re into that kind of thing!
He wanted to take a realistic human approach. MOST evil people in the world are evil for a reason. A mixture of personality and usually some type of deep emotional issues. That may bore some people but I do think it’s a unique way to see the joker as a villain. And you have to admit what they do, they do well.
Also towards the end you do start to see this more wreckless evil side of him just not for long enough IMO. That interview where he shoots the guy was a really good scene. But every kill he made in this movie had a motivation. I wanted to see him when he’s at the point of killing people regardless of their innocence. I think the actor did a solid job as well filling this particular role.
I think the point was to bring another dimension to the joker. He’s not just an evil person for the sake of being evil if that makes sense. But your opinion is valid because not everybody wants that.
@@Jwallworth "More realistic human approach"
Since when are humans crying whiny bitches who dance around in their underpants?
He literally took symptoms out of the DSM-V and tried to make a movie about it. This isn't original, this isn't 'creative', it's a bunch of stereotypes thrown into a movie:
"We don't take care of the disabled!"
"Healthcare is bad!"
"Rich people are bad!"
"Victims are never responsible!"
Most "evil people" don't go around crying about other people that 'made them this way'.
It doesn't matter how 'evil' or 'reckless' he is, he's incompetent, he's hardly functional, he can't even tell a joke. He's not the Joker, he's Bozo the Clown posing as the Joker.
“This doesn’t feel like a DC movie.” i'm sold !
tbh hearing Alex say that makes him sound like a pseudo intellectual. Like so what if it doesn't feel like a comic book movie?
@@RS-Caleb He thinks it didn't have enough "splosions"
Save Aquaman amd Wonder Woman... Agreed
Meanwhile it's very dark 😒
Boo, you suck assholes
he stops taking his meds and everything seems clear to him and we see him come to life that way
“I love the acting, I love the cinematography, I love the music, I LOVE THIS FILM. But it’s a 7/10 for me cause yknow it isn’t the joker I know. “
Thank you IGN.
Diary of Deaths idk but the point is IGN in 90% of their reviews will either say really negative things about what they and give it a positive score anyway or say nothing but good things then give a very poor excuse on why it’s considered to be bad.
I’m talking more about the other 2 not angry joe but I still feel like he missed the mark of it.
I mean the joker is pretty popular this seems like they using jokers name to get more sales for the movie
Lah Mitch it’s literally an alternate version of the character. Dc does this in their comics too. People are just too attached to the normal joker.
But IGN gave it a ten! So this doesn’t make any sense
Noobz4Hire they give every call of duty a 8-9 too so we can just ignore their past faults cause for once they did their job and I can’t use their failures as a reference?
Angry Joe: Joker 7/10..
Also Angry Joe: Suicide Squad 8/10 ...
Joe been chugging soy that's why
Holy shit, what the fuck was he thinking?
He did change his SS rating to 5 or 6 later tho
He gave it an 8, also he changed his mind about suicide squad
He only changed his mind after everyone else rated the movie poorly and called him out for loving it.
As he loses his girlfriend? He never had a girlfriend to start with.
They completely missed the mark on this review.
Do you guys watch the entire video before commenting?
@Joaquin Romero victorica are you guys stupid? they know it was a delusion dumbass they said it in the fucking video
@WolfThorn what scene did she disappear in??
@@NasKillerTV In the hospital
At first I thought this review was a tragedy. Now I realize it’s a comedy.
Nice!
🤯
"This Joker cant be a villain in any story"
He literally killed his therapist sent to help him in the end and danced away in her blood.
Alex just shut up dude lol.
Yo, he killed that one talking to him in the beginning?
I did not stick around til the very end lol
@@codyc9197 curious why did you leave?
@@cocopuffs5871 cause he is probably the one dude that agrees with Alex here
Do you know what a villain means?
"it's a DC movie don't read into it"
33:30
and this is exactly why the film went over your head.
Yeah he discredited his entire review with that sentence. Alex is a dipshit.
Fucking kill me
It's such a simple presentation that the only thing that went over people's heads was it's mediocrity, in favor of being a fanboy who claims that it went over other people's heads lmao
🤯
@@adrianpale2342 Ah, because complicated presentation needs to be the modus operandi for directors to express a story. Correct, this isn't a complicated story, but the themes and feelings it presents are complicated.
"I dont think this is a strong DCEU film" funny thing is it's the best DCEU film
Dude this is not a DCeu film this is in alternavie universe.
DCEU will nvr have a movie like this, not even a Batman movie would be like this, this is an ELSEWORLD story. DCEU and MCU are in the same vain of fantasty, superhero extravaganza crowd pleaser and fan service popcorn enjoyment flicks.
Joker is on a whole other LEVEL of pedestal , that breeds discussion and multiple conversations and rewatches, it’s as good as TDK.
It can fit into a new line of R rated DC black label 🏷 movies though and I like that idea if WB ever comes around to Todd Philips suggestion of that 👀
This isn't even DCEU, it's DC Black
What's the point in arguing over which film is best? It's all subjective anyway.
@@goldenjack7 Ikr Im saying İf Warner Bros wanna build a new Batman Trilogy with Robert Pattinson This is solid foundation here.Maybe This Joker will inspire or brainwash new Jokers and He will plan to crimes from behind to curtains like Mr. Glass.
This is why I don’t take Angry Joes movie reviews so seriously anymore lol Such dumb complaints I hear from this video
So I'm assuming you've watched a ton of his videos and probably like them, but then when he or his colleagues disagree on something you love, then he's just another "dumb" critic who doesn't know anything
@@ramonosuke 15,000 people agree, dolt.
@@ramonosuke
All the unwarranted praise for this film is really annoying to me. I think it is seen as great because movies in general tend to suck anymore. The Phoenix performance outshines the lame Fleck character and the plot he is in. That is what is going on here. Plus, "ooh, De Niro!" stuff; clearly one of his least interesting and important roles.
Sometimes Alex tries to sound too smart to the point where he just comes off as stupid
He’s dense AF
sometimes?!
Or are you too stupid to understand
Thank you
What are you talking about
“I don’t see this joker ever being the villain of any story.”
Who? The guy with shot three people on the subway, bashed his coworkers head in, shot his hero on live tv while laughing, and killed his own mother? Nah you’re right Alex he can’t be a villain I don’t see it either.
He also killed the therapist at the end.
Stephen Oberhill yeah that too but that was at the very end and Alex probably left the theater before that
Butthurt lol
😂
Well when you put it like that hahaha
"This isnt a DC villain" because u can feel sorry for him?? What😂 The best villains are characters with layers, not just the "bad guy" with no real motivations or explanations.
That's why the Joker is legendary! We need more deep characters!
Yup, when Harley Quinn was created on the animated show it wasn't just about a joyful crazy lady in love with the joker. It was about an intelligent doctor was was twisted and turned into a monster by a monster and you see it happen a lot in the show when she just breaks down.
You feel sorry for her because you saw how she was before the joker and she was much more whole.
Motivation to kill is not a motivation.
Exactly!
I'm tired of suspending my disbelief for lazy plot armor & wildly far-fetched scenarios. I'll take a movie that's grounded in reality over any of that traditional superhero comic book shit.
Maybe the fan base is finally growing up.
I mean you are wrong about that
"I never heard him cry, he was always such a happy little boy"
Those words crushed my soul when he read the file on his mother.
Yikes i just realized what that meant..
Xenowarrior 96 I’m slow what does it mean
@@replaysre8070 I think the reason he never cried was because he couldn't. Whenever he wanted to cry he would instead laugh due to his condition. So the mother took it as him being happy all the time when in fact he was miserable.
@@ELVIStheDotA I thought he got the condition afterwards from the abuse, remember it said the condition resulted from head injury or something else.
Impulsejupiter7 I was thinking the same thing.
"Loses his girlfriend" ? What? He didn't have a girlfriend, how did you watch the movie?
They clearly didn't pay any attention to the film if they said that
Yeah it was all in his head.
Exactly, that was one of the twists in the film.
That was a dang good twist. As much as life was shitting on him, him having a girl like that made him kinda respectable. It seemed kinda plausible since it felt like the beginning of him tapping into his persuasive nature.. but no. It was all in service of heightening his tragedy.
They shot the video 3 in the morning. They were probably tired
"I would be a 100 times more afraid of Jared Leto's Joker than Joaquin Phoenix's Joker" said no one ever.
I've said that but Joaquin is still not FULLY Joker not until he first meets batman. Jared Leto was embarrassing and cringey
@@Rxmzy idk man kinda made batman in the joker film lol
@@johnnyfive9815 he met little Bruce Wayne not batman
Enrick Jared Leto is such a shit joker. Acted so gay and shit. That’s not joker. That’s some gay weirdo
To be honest I probably be more afraid of Letos joker simply because he’s the joker in his prime meanwhile, Phenoix joker is in his beginning and his actions feel logical of all the people he killed are people who wronged him he’s not a random killer and I wouldn’t think he’d kill me on impulse like letos would.
That being said Letos joker is still terrible and i wouldn’t mind them replacing him with Pheonix joker and expanding on his mindset of questioning society.
I literally just finished joker. And I must say for me it's a 11/10. It shows what leads up to joker jumping off the rails. And the end was just brutally awesome.
Looks at the likes to dislike rating before watching:
"Damn Alex. What did you say this time?"
doesn't say anything controversial, it was just his opinion.
People are touchy as fuck because the MSM ran a giant smear campaign against Joker once they realised it wasn't pushing the exact activism they wanted pushed.
You hate alex too just like me and other people
@@anasevi9456 it's because his opinion made absolutely no fucking sense and should I advocate himself and know how to do a review before he say some stupid shit
@@anasevi9456 Alex has the shittiest opinions. seriously can't stand that guy in these videos. honestly I just skip the parts when he talks. it's annoying listening to him.
@@anasevi9456 except he is saying bullshit and his arguments are retarded
Alex seems to miss crucial details in almost every review. I feel like he goes into movies with preconceived notions and finds things to uphold those notions.
Completely agree.
That is not true he really enjoyed Captain Marvel 😉
Sellouts
Bingo
Absolutely spot on.
I thought this was the best DC movie released to date.
Piranha man fr
These opinions are subjective, opinions of 3 random dudes from Texas. If u think that
This is the best dc movie, than this is.
Dániel Mátyás Fr facts
To be honest the hype killed the movie and degrades it to a 7
DC as in, Man of Steel to now? Because I’m just saying this movie doesn’t even touch The Dark Knight. Mainly just because Heath Ledger is just fucking magnificent, all these years later, I still can’t get over his Joker performance. But I mean, who else do we really have to compare to in live action? Jared Leto? Lmfao. Jack Nicholson? Ehh. Cesar Romero? Rest his soul but everything about that series was so goofy lmao. Joaquin Phoenix? Tbh, the guy isn’t even playing the Joker, he’s playing some new original character that writers just wanted to call the Joker. Would say Hamill but he isn’t a live action actor. Heath Ledger is the undisputed king. What does this have anything to do with my reply? Oh, yeah I personally think The Dark Knight is still the best DC movie ever... well, live action anyways.
It's a movie about misery, hopelessness, and madness. It isn't supposed to be a superhero movie. Angry Joe just isn't a thoughtful reviewer, I suppose he never has been.
Relax, man, he gave it the bad ass seal of approval.
Jesus I loved the movie too but this is a bit over dramatic
8 months later and this is still the cringiest comment on TH-cam.
Sometimes it feels like Alex just wants to seem overly smart
Pretentious is the word
Pretentious, exactly on point, he always has this fart sniffing expression
I've always liked Alex but I can see why people find him annoying
I understand how Alex feels and the nice thing is that he brings to the table a lot of not just subjective logic but a lot of objective reasoning to his thoughts.
"Sometimes"? He is like that on every vid.
“Joker was an after thought”
“Didn’t feel like a DC movie”
What.
It's not an entirely bad critique, which I'm sure was said when Batman Begins and Logan came out. It breaks the mold and does something different.
I agree. I didn't feel like he was the joker 🤷🏿♂️
@@treymanning2496 Because he isn't Joker until the last 20 minutes of the movie
@@treymanning2496 He absolutely becomes the Joker, just not til the very end. When he's Joker, he's a very. very good one. That little triumphant giggle and spin when the cops got the shit beat out of them was very Joker
You must be new. These guys say the dumbest shit trying to act like Movie buffs...
Joe and Joe are good guys though. Stick around for their gaming content.
I couldn't even imagine how you would explain or portray Joker's up-and-coming as a villain, at all. I think this movie is literally the best representation of such. I thought the Joker was fantastic, a masterpiece that easily stands on its own.
Oh I've seen you before. I know your name says gaming but I'm pretty sure you could do a better job reviewing this movie.
You’re entitled to your opinion. I personally think the movie was complete garbage. One of the worst written scripts ever.
I really just do not believe that GamingReviews really believes that he thinks that the Joker movie was fantastic, a masterpiece as much as he wants to believe that it is. I think that people are claiming to like it in order to seem like they are some sophisticated cinema experts. This was a decent movie but just a terrible Joker stand alone film. The Joker movie is a DRAMA, like, wrap your fucking head around that. Pretentious fucking movie
Its a decent movie if it wasnt based on Joker character
@@BlGGESTBROTHER your smoking
Such a weak way of giving a 7/10. Oh it doesn’t feel like a comic book movie. It’s a really well made film. Rate it based on being a movie.
Totally, this film its definently not a 7/10. I mean to each its own but the explanation for a 7/10 was pretty weak
Exactly, I'm glad I watched Tyrone Magnus review first, because he said to go in to the film expecting a more "artistic" take on the joker not your typical DC film. Glad I saw that because I ended up really liking it. Best movie of 2019 for me.
Well said brother too many reviewers are comparing it to other films.
Funny thing: when i watched the film, there was strong feeling that i could arrange every minute of movie on comic page.
They gave Suicide Squad a 7/10. Enough said
Alex they type of guy who says suicide squad is better than the joker
@@jayg7714 Sacrilege!!
@@jayg7714 JAJAJAJAJAJAJAJAJAJAJAJAJAJAJAJAJA
Ghost Face ahve fun watching that pile of shit joker is a masterpiece
Ghost Face the only real clown here is you
Ghost Face Saying that Suicide Squad is better than Joker is the real joke here.
"this doesn't feel like a Joker film" -someone who has never read The Killing Joke
or seen the 90's batman cartoon 2 parter.
He even says the whole he's had a really bad day
The Killing Joke was not/is not considered canon. These reviewers conceded your point. It's analogous to The Killing Joke in that it is the preferred origin story, but it is outside of canon. Canon being that The Joker probably wouldn't drop a gun in a hospital, lol.
This movie is not really anything like the killing joke
its not even like the killing joke though. Even that isn't his true origin story.
I just saw the movie 5 minutes ago and I'm watching your review now and no offense but this review is kinda ridiculous. All the other people that have commented seem to have had all the issues I had with your review so I won't go into it, but you seem to be giving it a lower score just because the movie did exactly what it intended to do and you just wanted a more "falling into acid" Joker. Alex keeps going off about how this Joker isn't a threat when he doesn't even become full on Joker until the end of the movie. Even in the Killing Joke comic Joker doesn't start as a huge threat to Batman at the very beginning of his origin story...
Also true story, after seeing the movie and preparing to watch this review I literally said to myself there's no way Alex could not like this movie. Surprise surprise.
Him not being able to 'tie his shoes' was him being aggrevated/frustrated, you totally missed that point
I know lol he wasn't even trying to put them on just looked like he was trying to tear them
Alex: "The Joker can't even put his shoes on, therefore, I can't accept him becoming a criminal mastermind".
Using that logic, Bruce Wayne is a little boy. Therefore, I can't accept him as the dark, brooding existential threat (to the crime-world).
This acorn is such a small and inconsequential object, that it's virtually impossible to believe that it has the capacity to become an oak tree.
Alex really doesn't understand origin stories, or the evolution, growth and development of a character, does he? What he said (through his objections) says more about *him* than it does about the characters that his ignorance is trying to sideline. He made an utter ass of himself.
They should erase this video and give it a do-over. Not because they didn't validate *my* thoughts (personally): but because their thoughts/objections (mainly Alex's) *aren't valid at all* . His objections were manufactured, reaching and chronically juvenile. This film went right over Alex and OJ's heads. Because they can't comprehend something of immense depth and gravitas----they manufacture objections so as to justify their disregard. This "review" is an embarrassment.
Just because everyone is entitled to *offer* an opinion, doesn't mean that *that* opinion is valid or relevant. Yes, like assholes, everyone has one...and Alex has proven that he's the biggest irrelevant-asshole to review this film yet. This isn't a case of subjectivity-------it's a case of utter stupidity.
@@Christian-oi7sd They're in his hands not on his feet, what the actual fuck did he think was happening.
I read it as he was trying to stretch the shoes out or something lol. That's what it looked like at least, not that he didn't know how to put them on
Ontologically Steve o
Jared Leto was not the Joker, he was an edgy street punk.
We don’t mention that name here
I liked him as he fitted into the overall sub par feel of the suicide squad movie world. Jared was ok for the movie he was in. half assed bad guys shooting CGI monsters aint a joker friendly movie. But he is at best a meh Joker that works in the meh movie he was in.
God I HATED him
if this movie were put into the dceu it could actually fix leto.
just make him an unhinged gangster that glorifies the original joker and is trying to be a bit more like him
Any other kind of joker would be out of place in that action packed stew.
"the movie didnt feel like a dc movie." so the movie was so good that it didnt belong in a dc movie...
EDIT
thanks for the likes.
so i just watched the movie about 6 hours ago. This movie, for me, is a masterpiece. Although this movie is definitely a making of joker, by the end of the movie he is the joker ive always wanted to see on the big screen. possibly even better than heath's joker. ( this is my opinion.) The movie is full of twists and turns that make me consider what is real and what is not, yet its so damn seamless that you couldnt tell before until the story tells you. there was so much that was good about this movie. it definitely took its time making aurthor into joker tho. not a lot wrong with this movie.
It didn't feel like a DC live action movie but feels like the old batman animated films and Arkham asylum a bit but still different
@@ambrizfer7898 that sounds a lot more preferable.
bluesyleader I think the point is that it didn’t feel like a Dc movie, in the sense of yes it’s a character drama study but it’s still Dc, this movie could’ve worked just fine without the Dc logo or even about Joker. It could’ve easily worked as a story about a man going insane, just like Taxi driver which was a huge inspiration.
The director himself said this is a character story masked with a comic book character
I could be wrong but did they have the DC logo in the beginning of the film?
Alex’s review of the movie is a bigger joke than Murray Franklin
Yeah, you can tell Joe is frustrated with him too.
Crazy Dud 33 I know, and it’s sad because while Joe has some of the flawed perception that Alex does, he seems more aware that this doesn’t have to link to the other DCEU films.
You guys are rating a masterpiece of a movie based on “similarities to comic books” lol. This was one of the worst reviews I’ve seen on this channel
Mike I agree!
It's because there bro's that just like big cg shit
Check out comicstorians livestream, it's the exact same argument.
This was such a terrible review
Alita battle angel is worse
I wonder if Alex thinks hes overly intelligent disagreeing with mainstream opinions lmao
diablosmvpGQ Alex has a history of criticizing things he doesn’t even care about in order to sound smart
This actually makes a lot of sense
He's like brain from family guy
Whats up with people having different opinion. Dont think you in the right just because you follow the mass.
He's a pretentious contrarian and I've compared him to Brian from Family Guy more than a few times.
Everyone Watching: **Enjoys the review so far**
Alex: **opens his mouth**
Everyone Watching: _"Ah shit, here we go again"_
Oddwolf799 lop hey I’m mean to be fair angry joe did say he regrets giving it a such a high score
Alex will get his mouth shut when you fix this Damn Door
@Tamer Ciftci How to do it right?Do you get a licence somewhere in order to review movies?
Perhaps you got overannoyed because their thoughts dont agree with yours like they are entitled?
@Tamer Ciftci Completely agree
These dudes have such biased opinions.
Alex: 'I would be 100 times more afraid of Jared Leto's Joker than Joaquin Phoenix Joker' Lmao this guy doesn't know what he's talking about Jesus Christ...🤯🤯
KuroUndefined- that scene where he’s sitting against the wall next to his dead friend with eye hole blood splatter all over his face and midget guy can’t unlock the door is not nearly as scary as “I’m gonna hurt ya, really, really bad”.
Lol imagine getting scared from jareds joker i would laugh hard as shit if he says im a hunka hunka
@@wildzach what the fuck is this
Um if you see a circle of his weapons near you let me know how it feels lol.
@@Lobodenoche2400 what ? 🤔
“I want him to think his way out of a room”
Me- he literally killed a psychiatrist and walked out of a room....
While I disagree with 95% of what Alex says in this video.....I see what he's saying here. The past Jokers are psychotic, but also brilliant; they were always one move ahead of the heroes. I think this film nails the Joker's psyche, but there aren't really any moments where this Joker outsmarts the other characters (in the ending he goes from handcuffed to free between scenes without any big explanation).
That being said, showing Joker's brilliance isn't the point of this film. The point of this film is to show how he goes insane; so it's definitely an A film for me.
John Smith I can also see what they and you are saying but between that time he’s only been the “joker” for like 2 days max we didn’t even get to see him fully hit his full full transformation in this movie (my opinion) I think at the end credit scene if everything was real throughout the film he will definitely perfect his craft of our witting and our smarting people. But I eat what your sayin
@@asapando9411 Agreed. I hope Joaquin Phoenix can return in the role, that way we see him play the Joker longer. Sadly he's so much older than Batman, so I'm not sure if it's that possible.
The movie was amazing bro they dont know a thang about movies they kiterally say the movie doesnt do things that it did a great job of doing
@@asapando9411 thats what ibwas saying give him 48 hours to actually want to kill people instead of struggling to staybsane lrt him get a cuppla days off the hook and let loose not givin a fuck bet he starts using his brain because hes weak and frail
It's a character study first and foremost, it's a heartbreaking, it's raw and gritty. It's the descent into darkness, it's a story about how Arthur die and become the Joker, it definitely feel like you missed the point.
Raffaele G and...it’s a taxi driver copy
@@THELANKANCOMRADE theres literally only one scene in joker that you could say was a copy of taxi driver and that's when he was pointing his gun at the tv. Saying the film is a copy is just ridiculous
THE AMERICAN PATRIOT last time I checked in Taxi Driver he was never bullied or beat up on. Instead he was observing the absolute worst of humanity and the elites that prey on peoples’ hopes. Joker he is the bottom gets the worst of life is not cared by anyone the moment he finds some confidence they put him down. Breaks him until he creates his own society one of chaos. And him causing a movement by taking self defense to the extreme then manipulating it eventually to become an idol and gain power.
THE AMERICAN PATRIOT i think you need to rewatch taxi driver cause there is almost no similarities
Someone needs to explain to Alex that in this film this is a joker as a new born. Of course hes not going to be the threat that we see in the comics. At the beginning of the film we see an Arthur Fleck that is heavily medicated who thoughts are all over the place so of course hes not going to come off as some brilliant criminal mastermind. Bruce Wayne is like 8 years old and in the comics becomes the Batman at 25. Thats 17 years the joker has to gain the experience to become that criminal that gives Batman so much trouble.
Exactly, such dump opinion from him
Doesn’t seem like the joker at all just a sad little punk
Yeah I was surprised no one told him it was an "origin" story but they did say it was 3 am when they filmed this he could be drunk or just tired
Totally agree with you, Alex underestimate this Joker, This Joker not yet meet his nemesis, the one who will give him challenge. I believe he is briliant, to match Batman he will use his wit and brutality
@@rollyknighty4846 except he won't since this is meant as a stand alone movie that doesn't need any sequels in fact if it managed to have a sequel that pits him against batman it will most likely lose all the charms it had
You guys had such a shallow interpretation of this movie.
@tommy aronson You want to know my opinion of the movie? Well I thought it was great. Probably would have given it a 9 if I were rating it but 8 is fair i suppose. If you want a more in depth analysis of the movie from me I would have to go back and re watch it. But I kind of think you don't really care what I think you just wanted to insult me. However I am interested in knowing why you think i am a sheep.
Lol the movie is fucking shallow. You have to make your own meaning not intended from the movie to get anything out of it really
@@kx7500 shallow? That's an interesting opinion. What made you feel that this was a shallow movie?
a123b123c123d123c123 well I just told you. There really isn’t any depth beyond what they almost blatantly tell you. I don’t mean to be patronizing but this is basically the average persons smart movie since this is all people can understand.
@@kx7500 It isn't the deepest of deep movies but I don't think its fair to call it a shallow movie. Calling it the "average persons smart movie" implies that there as at least some depth. Also I think the the meaning you and interpretation people make for themselves regarding this movie was intended and is a legitimate form of depth.
Why is Alex so negative?! My goodness this movie was amazing. Good job DC.
Unfinished Sentenc he thinks giving movies lower scores than they deserve makes him a good critic. That or he just doesn’t like watching movies, and if that’s the case he shouldn’t be reviewing them.
@@goatsmiserable555 nah, he just tries to give an honoest score in a world where everyone else is givng 10's and Zeros. The world is made of grey levels if you expect everything to be black and white or everyone to agree with you and only your opinion counts, then you will remain disapointed in the world for the rest of your life and will always feel like a failure.
Samuel Shafik saying the movie is not a DC movie is not a valid criticism. He’s a horrible reviewer.
Agree
Here come the Alex defenders. No matter how much he claims he likes a movie he follows it up with 3 minutes of drivel why it has some objective problems. AJ does not take himself as seriously and I feel is a much more enjoyable reviewer.
How the hell can you be more scared of Jared Lettos joker 😂 is this video meant to be satire or something? Such a backwards review.
HUNKA HUNKA
@Keyser Soeze exactly, Jared Leto is a crime boss gangsta, not the joker
I also like how they said not to take your mother to see this film. I went with my brother and my mum. The only one talking about this film in my house is my mum she loved it 😂
What do you think of Angry Joes Joker's 2019 review?
Comment Section: All I have are negative thoughts...
They keep saying it doesn’t seem like it belongs in the DCEU. DC has been saying since day one that it’s not part of their EU.
Cause this review is trash? Sorry Joe fanboy
What happens to Jay Leto's Joker??
@@marcusmoore1542 I'm on your side I didn't like the review thats why the statement negative thoughts.
Howard Li Sorry!! My bad
"I'm not sure he's a midget or a dwarf"
- A.J. 2019
Sinisteris S. “Little person.” - Alex the know-it-all
@@angryscotsman2504 lol
He’s a doofus
He's a gnome
"Not enough Superman" - Angry Joe
Agree, i would have ended all this nonsense- Superman
He's growing up on a farm as of now
To be honest angry Joe is the reason I hate Superman. I know it's his favorite superhero but DC doesn't have only Superman they have others too. I mean good Lord he brings up Superman for every DC character especially more with Batman. Like every time there's a new Batman movie or Batman game he makes fun of it or mentions Superman Stop doing that Joe.
What are you talking about Joe almost whole heartedly endorsed this movie and pretty much shat on everything OJ and Alex said.
@@Rollbrand370 well being a Superman fan myself I agree buttman is getting more love than Superman and don't try to deny It look at the way supes has been portrayed as compared to Buttman. Ya got
Superman returns horrible
Smallville not superman
Injustice 1&2 bad guy
M.o.s good until he killed Zod
Bvs bad guy injustice theme gets killed without a good lead up to it
Justice League......
Video games
And how many good Buttman movies/games have there been? Minus the Bale, Kilmer and Clooney disasters. Plus all his ass kissers that hate Supes because he is a real hero and call him boyscout, completely disregarding what a "Hero" is. There are valid reasons for Superman fans to be disappointed.
Edit: added "t" to "it"
"His transition was uncanny. He had a bad week and he just felt too." Are you really serious my guy? All of his origins have been lame and easy to make up as hell.
In this story he has been mentally ill for like 40 years in a city with a trash health system and that treats him like complete shit every day and no one cares the slightest bit, just the contrary, all while taking care of his ill mom and loving her almost without money. Need I say he took 7 different pills with who knows what dosage to just feel the same. All of that just to find out that his illness and hell of life is because his mother is crazy and fucked him up all his life in horrible ways while he cared for her for those same years. He doesn't even remember all the abuse he endured and never knew he was adopted. Also his mother calling him "happy" like it's something cute is the greatest insult to his whole life and existence. Couple all that up and anyone normal will end up crazy as fuck, now imagine him.
Spawn223311 👏
Btw the adopted thing was left vague I believe. Because his mothers photo had a loving remark from Thomas Wayne and she did say Wayne made that adoption papers up to shut her up. So yeah for all we know Joker could be *spoiler*
Batman’s half brother
@@chriscrossuk it can be completely valid. Even to the point that they can't or won't kill each other.
@@chriscrossuk you are right
Thomas Wayne could’ve said she was crazy and delusional just to put her away at the insane asylum because she could’ve ruined his reputation and also the adoption papers could have been faked also
“It didn’t feel like a DC Movie” uuuuuh maybe bc it’s suppose to be the come up of the joker instead of it being randomly action-packed. This time DC set out to tell a invigorating story.
Camron Lee they complain that a movie follows the comics too much and when a movie comes that tries to do its own thing “it wasn’t like the comics” hypocrisy is real
It seems that the biggest complaint is that the super villain wasn't a super villian before he was a super villian. I mean we see "The Joker" in the last third of the last act ...seriously I mean the dude just came off of 7 different psychotropics and discovered who he felt he was in just the last 30 min of the movie.
Yeah gotta agree. Bad review. You guys missed SOOOO much. His "friend" wasnt his friend... that was a delusion. Why would the guy tell Arthur's boss, he was trying to buy a gun, when he gave it to him. That was a delusion. Before Arthur walked into the bosses office. Him and everyone else stopped laughing... the delusion has ended.... how do we know?? Because his boss tells us everything, "the other guys dont like you, they think you're weird" this is also consistent when he spared the midgets life. "You were the only that was nice to me."
I must be drunk, because i see three clowns, not one.
Seethathunter your not drunk I see them too
I was wondering the same thing
No, I see them too mate.
Damn
Low blow. Contribute to the discussion man.
People: Wow this is a good movie
Alex: wait no, that's illegal
Someone: Has a different opinion on something you like
You: wait that's illegal
@@exantiuse497 The thing is, 90% of what everyone likes even he himself liked he always tried to downgrade it or focus on the bad side.
It's like he hates what everyone likes even though he likes it, really few movies he enjoyed are those people barely liked, just my opinion
Alex is really unlikeable
@@exantiuse497 it's not about having a different opinion. There doesn't seem to be a single movie this guy really likes. That makes his opinions stale and not really trustworthy
I love how they think a sympathetic villain is easier to write than an “all evil villain”
some people are born bastards and I know not every villain is born a villain but the sympathetic take is so overdone.
Axle Fullbuster really? The all evil character seems so much easier to develop to the point of just being some 80s campy shit
@@Axle3000 Yeah, who wants a sympathetic villain? Totally sucks when a movie tries to make you think and feel, right? Just give me my paint-by-number souless villain. Real character motivation and development is just too hard to digest. Bring back the predictable junk-food B-movie garbage! Thanks!
Smickey I mean, there’s a great example of a villain who is evil for the sake of being evil just 2 Jokers ago. Heath Ledger’s Joker from the Dark Knight was an entity of chaos whose goal was to deconstruct and destroy the very foundation the protagonists stood on. He didn’t have any reason or motivation for why he wanted to do this. He just wanted to do it.
@@Axle3000 Overdone? Maybe in anime and manga. Much harder to pull in Western media actually.
The whole point was that his medication was making him a "simpleton". Knowing the truth, overcoming his past trauma, and stopping his meds allowed him to finally grow.
Thank you👍
But that is not always a good thing. My wife suffers from bipolar and she needs her meds. He needs meds. Meds kept him from going insane. It was very scary two watch. When you see someone you love suffer from this stuff it hits home very close
@samuel arthur I know that.
@samuel arthur wow when did I say it was? I guess you did not read my comment above about how my wife has bipolar. How I have experienced first hand the issue of mental illness and how important it is to be on your meds.
@samuel arthur first off you don't tell me what I can and not reply two. Second I reply cause I did not agreed with that person comments. Let me ask you do you know anyone who suffers from a mental illness? Have you had to put your love one into the hospital over and over again? I have!!!!! During the years of 2016 - 2018 my wife had be put in the hospital 18 times. One point she was in a lithium coma for a whole week and I almost lost her. I strongly believe in mental health rights and the rights of their love ones. My wife and I are working on making videos that deal with these issues. I also know you can't force someone to take their meds no matter how good it is for them. And sometimes the meds they take are not the right meds for them. In the movie the joker society failed him. Kicked him on curve. I am seeing that happen right in the world we live in. He is very much the victim of the movie. We need more movies like this that are honest and real and not afraid to get dirty and show what is really going on and what it is like for a person with mental health issues
Just a reminder: these are the same guys who praised Suicide Squad
patkajape 😂😂😂😂
Suicide Squad was a hot mess, that is for sure, but at least it is more enjoyable than other DC movies. I can at least watch it and laugh at it's ridiculous series of events and characters. Not like the long, drawn out and dark/grim tone of BvS, the indecisive, aloof destructive Messiah of MoS and the cobbled together "meh" of JL.
Suicide Squad was garbage
Angry Joe and company did go back to Suicide Suicide later and give it a lower ranking, alongside the Justice League movie. I think that is what they said in their video comparing all the DCEU films so far.
Ey dude, one of their best friends was in the movie (albeit for 30 secs)
@angryjoeshow
"I would be more scared of Leto"
Bro, stop bringing Alex on the show.
I cringed so hard when he said that 😬
That’s too far man.. next thing you know he’s gonna say Leto had the best joker laugh...
Leto looks like that guy turning himself into a sexless 'alien' he calls it. I mean come on
That guys look like a low life wannabe thug.
I mean, honestly, Jared's Joker is scary, in that "bust a cap in yo ass if u look at me funny" kind of way. It's a different kind of fear.
My favorite part was when Joker "punched out" for work.
espesically sense he kept punching it several times and when he called out the guy who gave him the gun
He really punched the clock...
This movie is a masterpiece.
it's the intellectual movie for stupid people. Not impressed.
@@artavenuebln ok mami
@@artavenuebln r/iamverysmart
@@thebatman4279 love that sub.
@@thebatman4279 but you won't get upvotes on that. The opposite people are more upvoted. extreme fanboys who talk about stupid or average shit as "no one can get it".. like joker, or that death stranding post. my opinion is the opposite and a bit harder to proof that i'm wrong. On the other hand, it's easy to see why rick and morty is not only be understandable by SMART people, which also ads a layer of r/gatekeeping.
C’mon guys this is clearly in no way intended to be a part of the DCEU
Mark I’m hoping that Joaquin Phoenix will be in a Batman film in the future
I feel like this movie was over your heads guys. Bad review
I'd agree... I think they wanted a superhero movie, and it's not that at all. I think it got marked down for that. It was probably a bit deep for them.
@@Robbeddall It's not particularly deep, but it is a film about Joker, which is a comic book character. Comic book fans obviously view it from that perspective.
@@ishmaelforester9825 from the perspective of a man child... that can only comprehend the spectrum of human emotions in black and white as portrayed in comic books..
@@Robbeddall Nailed it
Shut up it was shit film
This movie clearly had too many layers for your crew. Alex is inept.
Joker: 10/10
This review: 0!
Preach it brother!
these guys suck at reviewing movies
Lon3wolf it’s funny to watch though they are so serious 😂
Sub_sky234 movie was just well written and acted .. name of it is JOKER
eh it was an 8. Also dont see how it was disturbing, ive seen scary movies with real disturbing shit.
Joe: i want an Evil JoKEr
Joker: shooting murray franklin in the face
Joe: hes too sympathetic
"This man needs therapy, he doesn't need Batman"
Do these grapes not understand he has no ties to his past and he doesn't care about it?
None of the heroes will never become aware of this side of the joker.
I think these guys missed the part of the movie where he started from a troubled man and ended up pretty much too far gone. It was the part from the beginning of the movie to the end of the movie.
He has years to cultivate his madness before bats dons his suit.
Facts!! Batman is still a boy and they aren't even getting to the point how he is Batman's main rival and Joker was actually the cause of his parents being killed!! It was a GREAT fucking story!
What are you talking about, "none of the heroes will ever become aware of this side of the Joker"? He literally came to Bruce fucking Wayne's house as a child. Worlds Greatest Detective wouldn't have to do rocket science to recognize that, hey, this guy has the same facial structure as that dude who came to my house when I was a kid and nearly choked my butler to death.
"Started as a troubled man and ended up too far gone" and became a self-pitying pathetic human being, where is laugh is a 'disorder' and not a part of his character. He doesn't laugh at inappropriate stuff because he finds it actually funny, he does it because he has a 'disorder'.
The Joker wouldn't stoop so low as to dance around in his fucking underwear for no reason, cry about his mommy, or, at the very fucking least, become political.
The Joker isn't some moron that gets played by a cheap talk-show host in a cheaper suit.
This guy was.
Joker my ass.
@@Vgpl0 yep. Because hes gonna remember the exact facial structure of someone that came to his house once and base it entirely off of that. You must not be a big comic fan or have just forgotten so let me enlighten you. Theres multiple versions where batman has no idea where joker came from or who he is....
Vgpl0 you are dumb sir
Unformed Eight Batman would cuz to beat your enemy you need to know your enemy that’s why he sends him back to Arkham instead of the chair cuz he takes sympathy and pity on all of the criminally insane
Joker (2019): Perfect story open-ended makes you question what was real, incredible acting, Beautiful cinematography and music that seems to blend together. 7/10.
Suicide Squad: Editing problems black screen cuts into the movie halfway, cliche cgi villan 8/10. Yikes.
holy shit that literaly makes me feel my ass roasted
Yeah im done with Angry Reviews after this one... holy shit it was bad.
Yeah, but if you watch where they rank all DCEU films they collectively lower both Justice League and Suicide Squad's rating.
Howard Li EXACTLY BRUH !!!! thank you how does suicide squad gets 8 out of 10.
"U didn't need to show the scenes of him going crazy"...... fools.
That's the frcking movie
It's like saying "Why didn't the ship sink faster in Titanic?"
Literally said that to myself. Like it's literally a movie of HOW he gets insane so why wouldnt they show us examples of how a man is getting whittled down by society and others?
He was already crazy, the point of the movie is that as joker doesnt has a real origin you wonder if that was all real or was in the delusions of a lost mind
@Nat bro, you're in every comment thread I click on this vid, and your reasoning is always a bit lacking. I'll preface by saying this movie isn't a masterpiece in my eyes, nor do I think it should be compared to Nolan's trilogy.
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Have you seen Joker in the comics ? They've complicated things to the point where it's muddled... Joker is drinking from this pool that gives him immortality and let's him regenerate from fatal wounds, his blood is infectious to the point where it makes anyone affected by it only see hate and spite against living things. You want to make a movie on that ?? In 2 hours ??
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I will argue that Chris Nolan's batman wasnt even Batman at all.
Why ? Well, Batman in Nolan's movies don't show him as "THE WORLDS GREATEST DETECTIVE", you know... his most famous tagline ?
In the comics, Batman wouldn't have to ask "where are the other drugs going ?", or "where is the triggerrr?".
I mean damn, Batman couldn't even fight properly in Nolan's trilogy... and he's supposed to be adept in an abundance of different martial arts.
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None of the film adaptations of ANY comic book character actually represents them in their prime form. They have to make it easily digestible for the general public... and honestly, that's fair enough. It's really hard to make these storylines tangible and relatable when you start adding in Nth metal and all these complex comics lingo that took years to build upon.
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Prime example: Mother boxes in Justice League. Most everyone who didn't read comics were just given a bukake of all this exposition just so they can catch up, which is bad story telling in every way.
That was the point, using the name to lure people to watch other type of movie and i for this time am actually glad i was fooled. In the same way I wouldn't call the Orange Clockwork a masterpiece, im still glad when movies take risks and more importantly when they pay off, and in this movie they did pay off. I don't care if this is the joker that clash with Batman with a pletora of whacky gadgets and bad puns, because as a self contained story it delivered, specially in terms of acting performance and cinematography.
He wasn't struggling to put on a shoe, he stretching it and twisting it to release stress and anger. I do that, it's an actual method suggested by therapists.
Ali Shabbiri On wow, how deep. You people are like pigs at the trough; eager to devour whatever shit is being shoveled in today.
Therapist don't reccomend that.
@@BlGGESTBROTHER How is he a pig he's right Joker wasn't struggling
@@actionpackednoob2805 Christ, you're dumb. No wonder you thought the movie was deep.
@@BlGGESTBROTHER Who the hell struggles to put on a shoe man
Jesus, what a terrible Review.
The acting was phenomenal but can we take a moment to appreciate how down right perfect the musical score was?
It was fantastic
The only music I thought was goofy was when he went full Joker and danced on the stairs. I don't have Jock Jams in front of me so can't think of the title. Lol
I was gonna leave after the movie ended because i knew there wasnt gonna be an after credit but that score at the end i had to stay just to hear it one more time
And the cinematography.
@@diiii_mond that shot after he bashed in randal and the bloodstain on the wall that was left while he sat next to it
“If I have an origin story, I prefer it to be multiple choice.”
-Joker
Alex saying he can't be Joker cause he's useless... but this is only the story of how he became crazy. He's got plenty of time to become a good killer.
@@Zaemoncho I think these three don't get it. This is purposely done as an imagination and just a different universe.
@@773superprguy even if it wasn't it still is a 9/10 or 10/10 movie, and the joker is great in the end. I see many MANY journos giving The Joker bad scores, cause of political BS, so I didn't trust any review and watched it myself, and I can say that THIS MOVIE IS NOT A 7/10. Even if you are contra it's spirit.
Who said this is his actual origin story?
@fae ragan nah man. The joke she wouldn't get is the image joker holds in his head of Bruce sitting over his dead parents. Pay closer attention next time you watch. It's cut very specifically to show that and to show how dark his mind is
Only in the comments to see the way everybody's roasting Alex😂😂😂😂
He deserves it oh god he does 😂😂 saying that Jared Leto's Joker is better than Pheninox's !! It's blesphemy I say
its more "i cant believe they even watched the same movie as everyone else" theres no way.