Man, this mod... my head hurts just thinking of it. but you struck (black) gold on this one. Tips: -beeline for petroleum, it's plastick AND power solved, glossy dreckos teke a lot of space and a long time to spool up. -build a buffer tank, fill it, deconstruct it, 5 tons of H2O in the ground on a bottle, rinse, repeat. -Pacu is broken. very broken. you can have your entire pacu farm on a hole in the ground by your grill, in ONE square. (plus, every being in existence find pacu delicious.) -i'm planning om putting the rocket on the left, i can automate the polluted water vent, but the oil well have to be vented, ergo, be acessed. doing it trough an active rocket silo would be... scalding. -the Volcanic biome oversteyed its welcome, it has to go. (insert "it's free real state" meme here) Loving the series, you got me in to playing this mod again, i'm using your day 0 save, feeling like a genie here. Greetings from Brazil, have a nice one.
Echo: We're running out of building material, we should be mindful. Also Echo: Builds a ton of backwalls everywhere. More accurately a few tons, around 7.
I can’t wait to see echos face when he notices the gas bridge out of the gas generator is backwards oh then he goes I love it when a plan comes together, oh man this had me in stitches thank you echo for the entertainment that moment was worth my prime sub ❤❤❤
You know. Something that occurred to me this time watching through mini base: Klei built an animation for dupes getting entombed in a block that has just been built. You know what that means? They said "hey, so we specifically programmed these things to be stupid enough to build one another's head into a block, so now we need an animation for when that inevitably happens " Sometimes it boggles the mind the tiny details put into this game. Of course those details are often insane but, c'est la vie lol
its strangely comforting seeing someone who's played this game MUCH longer than me ALSO still occasionally flips the bridges the wrong way. Makes me feel a little better about every single doggone time I've done that XD
21:49 a in vanilla on a normal asteroid you are most likely going to break into the oil biome before finding an oil well. Meaning you can tap into oil without supplying any water.
The oil tech isn't backwards. A lot of the standard maps come with thousands of kilos of free oil under high pressure, you can just pump it right out. Wells are not normally required for a lot of the early small scale uses you have for oil so it makes sense to have the more complicated renewable oil option further down the research tree.
I know this comment is too late but -- leave the water in bottles! Best way to easily store tons of water literally on top of itself. When its needed, just dump it back into the main water tank. Filling, deconstructing, and rebuilding the storage containers over the geyser until you have enough 5 ton bottles of water just sitting there. Setting the bottle emptier to 'sweep only' will help stop bored dupes from emptying bottles back into the tank too soon. Problem of having enough water stored solved! Just found your channel. Looking forward to seeing the rest of the play through!
On a side note... right at the end I noticed something funny. All the magma has turned into some sort of solid rock already, meaning once a chiller is in place there's a lot of space to be freed up down there - and it looks like all of that is metals and diamond as well.
12:28 for anyone wondering why the heat still moves: when the game calculates the thermal conductivity (TC) between 2 NON insulated tiles it uses the following formula: sqrt(TC_1×TC_2). For those not into math: if either of the 2 tiles has a TC greater than 0 the total TC will be greater than 0 thus allowing heat to move. YES THIS INCLUDES METAL TILES RIDGE! The reason water is so much faster at conducting the heat is due to flashing. When a liquid tile touches a tile that is hotter than it's evaporation point +3C° it will do a state change and steal the heat required. For tiles that have the "insulated" tag tho the game will choose the lowest TC. Notes 1: additional multipliers are added between some tile types. 2: this only counts for heat movement between 2 different tiles, not tile and any buildings, pipes, etc. O and while you're reading this. Meteor impacts have a 1 tile range. That is why you're insulated tiles get damaged. I suggest a extra space between the bunker tiles and insulated tiles. Bonus points if you make it a vacuum.
Abyssalite has a thermal conductivity of 0.000000002. So it has more decimals than the game shows. It's intentional; I figured out why when I was trying to mod it all to be the same temp, I was trying to figure out why the abyssalite wasn't just like neutronium. My brain flash: Abyssalite maintains the biomes it surrounds. It could be a zero transfer element but it actually serves a purpose by having a very low transfer. This is annoying with high temp abyssalite breaks, but it's really helpful in cold biomes. The more effort you take to keep them insulated the more you'll be rewarded because the game is trying to help.
In super tight, space saving conditions like this play through, I do not even build ladders. The dupes must hop from tile to tile climbing them like stairs, and every single space gets to hold storage bins, decor, items, or whatever and I say you try to remove all ladders and switch to a “tile only” movement system
Thank you Écho ! I just LOVE the added challenge of neatly squishing everything together in the minibase. This is exactly the kind of playthtough I would try myself if I had the time to do so, therefore being able to watch you do it is a wonderful gift you are giving us for the end of 2022 and then 2023. Have a very happy, cosy, fun end of the year yourself! Cheers
You could combine the Water Distiller, Heat Sink and space material cooler into one unit. You need heat to boil steam for the Turbine. No reason you can't use it for cooling as well. In fact, the Steam Temperature of Polluted Water is barely
it is backwards, since you can usually find some already spilled oil and not just an oil source, so you can easily use the refinery before you need the well, heck, in some runs, you do not need the well at all.
i love this series!! its so interesting to see how you're managing to fit it all in - way beyond my engineering expertise but super cool! also that backwards bridge was haunting me the whole time you were building the natural gas area haha
68 tiles. You have 68 tiles of polluted water storage. You didn't take into account at all the 4 tiles of Neutronium directly under the geyser. You've got completely borked math because of those 4 tiles.
I'm starting to feel I have an unhealthy obsession with Echo's videos. Everytime I see his new video pop up in my feed, my dopamine levels immediately jump way up. Please send help o_O
Good morning Echo! Glad to see you didn't leave me hanging till I peed myself (even if I did at laughing at another appearance of Sir Buffer Knight ). I love seeing all the problem solving required to fit everything in a tiny space. Keep up the great work!
Yes! Another tiny house asteroid episode! \o/ Woohoo!! * _runs for snacks_ * Seeing how you make all of the essentials fit so far is mad brilliance... Mad as in, "we're all mad here", not "mad props yo". - Although, mad props on making it work thus far too! HA! Can't wait for the next episode. Aww, RIP Puft. Echo dupe is in danger! 😬18:53 Fun stuff! Tyfs. Hope you and the fam are having a great week. Best of wishes!
I'd really love to know exactly why Abyssalite tiles, and _only_ tiles, transfer heat to liquids and _only_ liquids. That said, it can make for a distressingly long-lasting steam generator setup. Seriously, I had four turbines running at full tilt for hundreds of cycles just removing 400C from a single layer of Abyssalite. (Because it has so much capacity.) And then when those tiles got down to around 120C, I just dug down another layer. Never even got to the magma, just left it lol.
There are two answers here: Abysalite's abysmal thermal capacity means that the heat it transfers is minimal, to the point floating point math may even round it to 0 and just negate it. It boils liquids though because of the flaking mechanic. Basically, if one tile's temp is over the phase change point of the material in an adjacent tile, the game will ignore the normal heat transfer math and just dump enough heat to phase change 5kg of the second tile instantly. You mostly see it with liquids simply because compared to solid tiles they boil at much lower temps.
To contain the P water... considering deconstructing a water tank drops the Bottles to the ground... can you actually keep those bottles in the ground, then use the bottle emptier later when needed? I mean, they are considered debris but use no tile space...
The little base is coming up really well! You could save a ton of materials by switching insulated gas pipes for normal ones inside the oil refinery area. Since it comes out at roughly the same temp as these places usually stabilize at, there's really no need. And the water pipes leading to the oil well *shouldn't be* insulated at all. I usually even make a small loop around the well to make sure the water drops as much of its chill as it can. This way the system is self-cooling plus you should literally get tons of material back. For the most part I don't really use much insulated piping inside a refinery area in general. Unless I'm feeding it 95°C water.
10:40 When the buffer tank is empty then the metal refinery will not get any coolant. IIRC the refinery inputs while it also outputs, but there might be an edge case there. A simple fix is to have the pipe go to the refinery before going to the bridge.
idk, this might be a dumb idea, but would it be possible to build and deconstruct some liquid tanks and "store" all the water in bottles until the vent goes dormant, and then just empty them with a bottle emptier?
If you want to disinfect the p water without chlorine you can route it through 4 liquid tanks that start with 0 germs. Because each tank outputs water at average germ count of the tank the 4th(3rd could be enough) tank output will be 0. You will need automation or pipe priority system to make sure the 4 tanks stay full, but otherwise its a set and forget solution that can handle 0-10kg/s. If you want to get rid of all germs leave a spot for toilet, sink and shower water so you dont need two disinfection areas.
An abyssalite tile will transfer through metal tiles, but it is slower. The more the metal tile is surrounded, the more transfer you get. I use this in 2 areas of my current playthrough. In a cold biome, metal tile surround by 3 abyssalite to regulate the temp of a pool of water for base cooling, and a second one next to a hot biome to regulate temperature to pincha pepper plants.
I'm starting to wonder how are you gonna squeze them buffer in your mid and late game base. U gonna drop that man, the knights of the buffer tanks shall fall and from that the infinite tanks will rise.
While I do realise that this probably wont get answered since the video is quite old I still have to ask. What happened with all the magma? Where did the heat bleed through? Great video tho. Found you quite late (at around 23:45 and now it's 01:31) and I just got stuck :) Edit: not timestamps for the video...
The bathroom only needs 3 tiles high, if you only de wash and outhouses, you can get the 8 tiles for the great hall without losing any space in the base
Just realized something : if you keep construct/deconstruct liquid tank you could concentrate massive amount of bottled polluted water in juste 1 tile right ? Even if it's underwater. Is that sort of infinite storage as well ?
You know what would help with that water storage dilemma you're having? Just saying, if it wasn't meant to be in the game they would've patched it out a long time ago! :) In all seriousness, the buffer tanks would be inherently inefficient in this playthrough, wouldn't they? They take up 6 tiles, but only hold 5 tiles of water. I would think just having a big storage tank would be a better use of tiles (plus would be a giant thermal battery for that corner of the map) since that's probably going to be the limiting resource on this map.
There are better ways of storing it. What I do is I put two tanks when the first one fills up it trips the signal and that I deconstruct it and just leave the water bottles where they are then rebuild the storage and keep doing that... That is also a very good way to make a clay farm and to oxygenate your base if you just let it vent out the top.
Agree, this would be the best alternative to infinite storage. With a bit of automation you can have reservoirs notify you when full, allowing deconstruction and reconstruction. If you have dupes do that from 3 tiles above without ladders, they won't be able to pick up the bottles and thus won't make infinite runs to the water dropoff.
The incoming water for the metal refinery is the wrong way round. It will only feel water to it when the line is backed up as it is. Which it shouldn't be when the storage is built, except when the refinery is expelling water. I'm doing a play along, I'm ahead so it's nice to see what I should have done ;) I like the petroleum setup on the right like that, unfortunately I've put my everything over there, including all the ranches.
I am constantly flipping bridges the wrong way. I think its bc the OUT side is GREEN, and our brains think "Green is good, green is go, so it goes in here :)" tbh it's a small detail of game design I think they missed and haven't fixed, that green (in western societies at least) means go here. I wonder if there's a mod that fixes that....
Another thought: maybe install one of the mods that allow adjusting printing pod deliveries? You are supposed to only have 1 dupe offered, but for some reason that doesn't work. It makes things more difficult than it should be on such a small map.
It is easy to adjust the size of all asteroid maps in the *.XML files. However, that alone would likely produce unbalanced and /or unlivable combinations. That's why Minibase mod also changes all the biomes in the map (e.g. adding tiles of refined metals or changing geyser types).
23:25 "Ooh I think I've trapped the dupes"
You never trap the dupes, the dupes trap themselves
"Honney, I trapped the dupes." sounds like a 90's video title.
Truer words have never been said.
Man, this mod... my head hurts just thinking of it. but you struck (black) gold on this one.
Tips:
-beeline for petroleum, it's plastick AND power solved, glossy dreckos teke a lot of space and a long time to spool up.
-build a buffer tank, fill it, deconstruct it, 5 tons of H2O in the ground on a bottle, rinse, repeat.
-Pacu is broken. very broken. you can have your entire pacu farm on a hole in the ground by your grill, in ONE square. (plus, every being in existence find pacu delicious.)
-i'm planning om putting the rocket on the left, i can automate the polluted water vent, but the oil well have to be vented, ergo, be acessed. doing it trough an active rocket silo would be... scalding.
-the Volcanic biome oversteyed its welcome, it has to go. (insert "it's free real state" meme here)
Loving the series, you got me in to playing this mod again, i'm using your day 0 save, feeling like a genie here.
Greetings from Brazil, have a nice one.
Echo: We're running out of building material, we should be mindful.
Also Echo: Builds a ton of backwalls everywhere.
More accurately a few tons, around 7.
Oh my gosh... you are right. I didn't even realize it haha.
I really appreciated the little “math tape covered Echo” that popped up during your liquid storage math session 😊
I think Extreme Math Echo is my favorite of the little Echos that pop up in videos.
@@savannah9712 Same! :)
I can’t wait to see echos face when he notices the gas bridge out of the gas generator is backwards oh then he goes I love it when a plan comes together, oh man this had me in stitches thank you echo for the entertainment that moment was worth my prime sub ❤❤❤
I was just seeing/thinking the same thing 😂
Haha, thank you Highborn Jase. It was def a moment for me too. hahaha.
30:05 you have the option of wild-planting the mealwood. would save on the dirt
You know. Something that occurred to me this time watching through mini base: Klei built an animation for dupes getting entombed in a block that has just been built. You know what that means? They said "hey, so we specifically programmed these things to be stupid enough to build one another's head into a block, so now we need an animation for when that inevitably happens "
Sometimes it boggles the mind the tiny details put into this game. Of course those details are often insane but, c'est la vie lol
its strangely comforting seeing someone who's played this game MUCH longer than me ALSO still occasionally flips the bridges the wrong way. Makes me feel a little better about every single doggone time I've done that XD
One. Of. Us.
18:55 watch out mini echo! You'll get squished by the asteroids!
Nice job finding the Hidden Echo!
21:49 a in vanilla on a normal asteroid you are most likely going to break into the oil biome before finding an oil well. Meaning you can tap into oil without supplying any water.
Very fair point!
I am always obsessed with efficiency and renewable energy/resources, so seeing all of these systems is really nice.
The oil tech isn't backwards. A lot of the standard maps come with thousands of kilos of free oil under high pressure, you can just pump it right out.
Wells are not normally required for a lot of the early small scale uses you have for oil so it makes sense to have the more complicated renewable oil option further down the research tree.
I know this comment is too late but -- leave the water in bottles! Best way to easily store tons of water literally on top of itself. When its needed, just dump it back into the main water tank. Filling, deconstructing, and rebuilding the storage containers over the geyser until you have enough 5 ton bottles of water just sitting there. Setting the bottle emptier to 'sweep only' will help stop bored dupes from emptying bottles back into the tank too soon. Problem of having enough water stored solved!
Just found your channel. Looking forward to seeing the rest of the play through!
On a side note... right at the end I noticed something funny.
All the magma has turned into some sort of solid rock already, meaning once a chiller is in place there's a lot of space to be freed up down there - and it looks like all of that is metals and diamond as well.
woah! But where did all that heat go?
12:28 for anyone wondering why the heat still moves: when the game calculates the thermal conductivity (TC) between 2 NON insulated tiles it uses the following formula: sqrt(TC_1×TC_2). For those not into math: if either of the 2 tiles has a TC greater than 0 the total TC will be greater than 0 thus allowing heat to move. YES THIS INCLUDES METAL TILES RIDGE! The reason water is so much faster at conducting the heat is due to flashing. When a liquid tile touches a tile that is hotter than it's evaporation point +3C° it will do a state change and steal the heat required. For tiles that have the "insulated" tag tho the game will choose the lowest TC.
Notes
1: additional multipliers are added between some tile types.
2: this only counts for heat movement between 2 different tiles, not tile and any buildings, pipes, etc.
O and while you're reading this. Meteor impacts have a 1 tile range. That is why you're insulated tiles get damaged. I suggest a extra space between the bunker tiles and insulated tiles. Bonus points if you make it a vacuum.
Spot on. Thanks for the informative comment.
Abyssalite has a thermal conductivity of 0.000000002. So it has more decimals than the game shows. It's intentional; I figured out why when I was trying to mod it all to be the same temp, I was trying to figure out why the abyssalite wasn't just like neutronium. My brain flash: Abyssalite maintains the biomes it surrounds. It could be a zero transfer element but it actually serves a purpose by having a very low transfer. This is annoying with high temp abyssalite breaks, but it's really helpful in cold biomes. The more effort you take to keep them insulated the more you'll be rewarded because the game is trying to help.
In super tight, space saving conditions like this play through, I do not even build ladders. The dupes must hop from tile to tile climbing them like stairs, and every single space gets to hold storage bins, decor, items, or whatever and I say you try to remove all ladders and switch to a “tile only” movement system
Very good point.
33:40 - Echo flipping out because he flipped a bridge :D
Look... it was a deal. I was upset. I dealt with it. haha.
Thank you Écho ! I just LOVE the added challenge of neatly squishing everything together in the minibase. This is exactly the kind of playthtough I would try myself if I had the time to do so, therefore being able to watch you do it is a wonderful gift you are giving us for the end of 2022 and then 2023.
Have a very happy, cosy, fun end of the year yourself! Cheers
Thank you very much for the comment. :)
You could combine the Water Distiller, Heat Sink and space material cooler into one unit. You need heat to boil steam for the Turbine. No reason you can't use it for cooling as well.
In fact, the Steam Temperature of Polluted Water is barely
I think you are on to something here.
it is backwards, since you can usually find some already spilled oil and not just an oil source, so you can easily use the refinery before you need the well, heck, in some runs, you do not need the well at all.
i love this series!! its so interesting to see how you're managing to fit it all in - way beyond my engineering expertise but super cool! also that backwards bridge was haunting me the whole time you were building the natural gas area haha
The bridge is still haunting me haha.
5:06 if we wrote 134.880 k in a physics test our teacher would get soooo mad. Always RESPECT the units
18:54 tiny echo!
Nice job catching the Hidden Echo.
68 tiles. You have 68 tiles of polluted water storage. You didn't take into account at all the 4 tiles of Neutronium directly under the geyser. You've got completely borked math because of those 4 tiles.
100% correct. Great catch.
I'm starting to feel I have an unhealthy obsession with Echo's videos. Everytime I see his new video pop up in my feed, my dopamine levels immediately jump way up. Please send help o_O
Or maybe we just need more Echo vids...
@@queenkalero That works too!
Love this comment. Dopamine in responsible use cases is a good thing :)
Good morning Echo! Glad to see you didn't leave me hanging till I peed myself (even if I did at laughing at another appearance of Sir Buffer Knight ). I love seeing all the problem solving required to fit everything in a tiny space. Keep up the great work!
Thank you Angry Forest!
Did Spaced Out used to not have meteor showers? Wondering if there's been a change. I certainly get pummeled 😬
Yes! Another tiny house asteroid episode! \o/ Woohoo!! * _runs for snacks_ *
Seeing how you make all of the essentials fit so far is mad brilliance... Mad as in, "we're all mad here", not "mad props yo". - Although, mad props on making it work thus far too! HA! Can't wait for the next episode. Aww, RIP Puft.
Echo dupe is in danger! 😬18:53
Fun stuff! Tyfs. Hope you and the fam are having a great week. Best of wishes!
Oh my goodness, I love it... "tiny house episode"
I blame youtube suggested videos, @@EchoRidgeGaming, but when I see the tiny asteroid I think tiny house! 😂
I'd really love to know exactly why Abyssalite tiles, and _only_ tiles, transfer heat to liquids and _only_ liquids. That said, it can make for a distressingly long-lasting steam generator setup. Seriously, I had four turbines running at full tilt for hundreds of cycles just removing 400C from a single layer of Abyssalite. (Because it has so much capacity.) And then when those tiles got down to around 120C, I just dug down another layer. Never even got to the magma, just left it lol.
I like this idea a lot.
There are two answers here:
Abysalite's abysmal thermal capacity means that the heat it transfers is minimal, to the point floating point math may even round it to 0 and just negate it.
It boils liquids though because of the flaking mechanic. Basically, if one tile's temp is over the phase change point of the material in an adjacent tile, the game will ignore the normal heat transfer math and just dump enough heat to phase change 5kg of the second tile instantly. You mostly see it with liquids simply because compared to solid tiles they boil at much lower temps.
Echo you forgot to minus the 4 nutronium tiles in your maths so you will need a extra buffer tank
You are absolutely correct.
Well, you could always replace the solid tiles under the bottom buffer tanks with mesh tile and get 3 of them back
The next episode will be all about one puff dying, love it already.
To contain the P water... considering deconstructing a water tank drops the Bottles to the ground... can you actually keep those bottles in the ground, then use the bottle emptier later when needed?
I mean, they are considered debris but use no tile space...
"That's a subject of next episode"
That Puft: Hmm.... Naw I think I'm good thanks
LOL
This wins the Comment of the Week for sure.
The little base is coming up really well! You could save a ton of materials by switching insulated gas pipes for normal ones inside the oil refinery area. Since it comes out at roughly the same temp as these places usually stabilize at, there's really no need. And the water pipes leading to the oil well *shouldn't be* insulated at all. I usually even make a small loop around the well to make sure the water drops as much of its chill as it can. This way the system is self-cooling plus you should literally get tons of material back.
For the most part I don't really use much insulated piping inside a refinery area in general. Unless I'm feeding it 95°C water.
10:40 When the buffer tank is empty then the metal refinery will not get any coolant. IIRC the refinery inputs while it also outputs, but there might be an edge case there. A simple fix is to have the pipe go to the refinery before going to the bridge.
Something I have to look at, great point. Although I think it will be fine because the line doesn't pull 10kg/s.
7:12 you could keep the bottles full, and only empty them when the buffer tanks run low
yay *flaking*
idk, this might be a dumb idea, but would it be possible to build and deconstruct some liquid tanks and "store" all the water in bottles until the vent goes dormant, and then just empty them with a bottle emptier?
6 days… can’t wait for the next. Btw you can use the ice maker to spot cool areas, just use ice temp shift plate to cool.
If you want to disinfect the p water without chlorine you can route it through 4 liquid tanks that start with 0 germs. Because each tank outputs water at average germ count of the tank the 4th(3rd could be enough) tank output will be 0. You will need automation or pipe priority system to make sure the 4 tanks stay full, but otherwise its a set and forget solution that can handle 0-10kg/s. If you want to get rid of all germs leave a spot for toilet, sink and shower water so you dont need two disinfection areas.
"Shearing and Starvation Chamber" makes it sound like we're playing Rimworld. XD
Wondering why you didnt just use the "empty" command to dump the deconstructed buffer tanks back into your tank?
An abyssalite tile will transfer through metal tiles, but it is slower. The more the metal tile is surrounded, the more transfer you get.
I use this in 2 areas of my current playthrough. In a cold biome, metal tile surround by 3 abyssalite to regulate the temp of a pool of water for base cooling, and a second one next to a hot biome to regulate temperature to pincha pepper plants.
Makes sense based on the liquid vs gas vs tile thermal transfer rates.
I'm starting to wonder how are you gonna squeze them buffer in your mid and late game base. U gonna drop that man, the knights of the buffer tanks shall fall and from that the infinite tanks will rise.
Hahaha, love live the Buffer Tank Knight!
While I do realise that this probably wont get answered since the video is quite old I still have to ask.
What happened with all the magma? Where did the heat bleed through?
Great video tho. Found you quite late (at around 23:45 and now it's 01:31) and I just got stuck :)
Edit: not timestamps for the video...
I'm loving this series! Thank-you :-)
Thank you.
7:04 Is it not possible to empty the bottles on the ground by clicking on them?
Ish, click on them then click empty.
@@EchoRidgeGaming Would save time instead of using liquid dispensers haha
Looks like that heavy watt plate down in the water basin could be replaced since there's another up top.
Yeah I think it would def be more efficient.
Love your videos. They are fun to watch
Thank you.
Wow, very nice!!!
Again, thank you Sir.
Thank you.
The bathroom only needs 3 tiles high, if you only de wash and outhouses, you can get the 8 tiles for the great hall without losing any space in the base
That pipe is going to be pain!
Knew it(:
Just realized something : if you keep construct/deconstruct liquid tank you could concentrate massive amount of bottled polluted water in juste 1 tile right ? Even if it's underwater. Is that sort of infinite storage as well ?
Very manual way of doing it but for sure.
You know what would help with that water storage dilemma you're having? Just saying, if it wasn't meant to be in the game they would've patched it out a long time ago! :)
In all seriousness, the buffer tanks would be inherently inefficient in this playthrough, wouldn't they? They take up 6 tiles, but only hold 5 tiles of water. I would think just having a big storage tank would be a better use of tiles (plus would be a giant thermal battery for that corner of the map) since that's probably going to be the limiting resource on this map.
Loving the Series Echo! I'm always checking to see if another episode drops!
Thanks @dewsteezyz
I am afraid the only possible regolith collecting system on this map is the one categorically unendorsed by the DWU :)
Haha, isn't everything unendorsed by the DWU? haha.
Lets go, more minibase!
Im learning a lot! cant wait till the next one!
There are better ways of storing it. What I do is I put two tanks when the first one fills up it trips the signal and that I deconstruct it and just leave the water bottles where they are then rebuild the storage and keep doing that... That is also a very good way to make a clay farm and to oxygenate your base if you just let it vent out the top.
Agree, this would be the best alternative to infinite storage. With a bit of automation you can have reservoirs notify you when full, allowing deconstruction and reconstruction. If you have dupes do that from 3 tiles above without ladders, they won't be able to pick up the bottles and thus won't make infinite runs to the water dropoff.
Your method would def be more efficient for someone who doesn't get squirreled all the time haha. I try to automate as much as possible.
The incoming water for the metal refinery is the wrong way round. It will only feel water to it when the line is backed up as it is. Which it shouldn't be when the storage is built, except when the refinery is expelling water.
I'm doing a play along, I'm ahead so it's nice to see what I should have done ;) I like the petroleum setup on the right like that, unfortunately I've put my everything over there, including all the ranches.
The refinery will fill even when the tank isn't backed up, because the line doesn't pull 10kg/s. Good thinking though.
the bridge is reversed in the natural gas output
Shhh... don't tell Echo.. he will not take it well.
That reversed bridge on 26:11 made my heart sink...
You and me both haha.
18:54 hidden echo at the regolith
Nice catch of the Hidden Echo.
I am constantly flipping bridges the wrong way.
I think its bc the OUT side is GREEN, and our brains think "Green is good, green is go, so it goes in here :)"
tbh it's a small detail of game design I think they missed and haven't fixed, that green (in western societies at least) means go here. I wonder if there's a mod that fixes that....
Wow, very interesting take. Never thought of it that way.
yes love it
Pliers?? is that a spaced out tool or did i just never see it
It is a popular mod. You can find the link in my mod collection, or by searching in the Steam Workshop.
@@EchoRidgeGaming oh ty
Maybe put more dreckos in a room with wild planted mealwood? You still have a bit of space left for that, I think.
Love this! Keep it tiny.
Thank you, I am working on it :)
Couldn't you just put all of the sinks in front of your mess hall since they only ever get affected by food poisoning when they eat?
Would be a great solution.
Meditation Echo on the top of the Bass at 18.59
And nowni know how youbwant to cool it all down... by cooling the bunker doors.
if you do the math, by putting the buffer tanks in the liquid like he did, your craming 1.8 metric tons per tile or 11 tons per 2x3
@FoxLord32 speaks the truth.
Another thought: maybe install one of the mods that allow adjusting printing pod deliveries? You are supposed to only have 1 dupe offered, but for some reason that doesn't work. It makes things more difficult than it should be on such a small map.
You know I get nervous adding more mods Naz :p :) Great suggestion though.
F to Puff at the end there Q.Q
infinite storage tank for the water and waterfall storage for polluted water ?
Honestly, if I were me, I'd have done with an infinite storage system for liquid and gasses.
Why not make an ininite storage for the water? It uses less space and holds, well, an infinite amount. And it works as a great heat sink.
I have a thing against infinite storage... or better said I have a thing for buffer tanks :)
Skoosh comes from a Japanese word "Skooshi" which mean "a little bit"
I mentioned this to the stream today. Thank you for teaching me something today!
Lol try to make mini rockets
i serch mod space out with mini base is this possible?
Only works on vanilla. Hopefully they update it one day.
It is easy to adjust the size of all asteroid maps in the *.XML files. However, that alone would likely produce unbalanced and /or unlivable combinations. That's why Minibase mod also changes all the biomes in the map (e.g. adding tiles of refined metals or changing geyser types).
If the buffer tanks only hold 5 tons of fluid yet take up 6 tiles of space and each tile can hold 1 ton of liquid, why use buffer tanks?
In this case, because you can combine them for 11 tons in 6 tiles.
its not 72 tiles of storage, its 68
You are correct, I def whiffed on this one.
@@EchoRidgeGaming i was wondering, "how are you storing polluted water in nutronium"
I wish Klei would fix the tamed Dreckos. They stop moving and die if not wrangled and dropped every 5 cycles.
I don't have this exact issue, so long as you make their room square. They can get stuck otherwise.
@@EchoRidgeGaming Removing the grooming station mostly fixes the stuck dreckos but they will never be tamed
could you just use infinite storage
That's not how I roll. ;)
Worried about space for rockets? Just make some more space with rockets neutronium mining