Prepping our NEGLECTED Race Mini Bike for a 3 HOUR ENDURO | TrailMaster MB-200 Essential Mods!
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 26 ก.ย. 2024
- The TrailMaster MB-200 is the best mini bike on the market. We built an endurance racing mini bike last year with a Tillotson 225, upgraded shocks, juggernaut torque converter, and more for the Gambler 500 mini bike enduro that ended up not happening! In today's episode, we're pulling our racing bike out from storage, where it had been abandoned in one of Ike's garages for nearly a year. We're prepping it for the GPS 180, a 3 hour endurance mini bike racing hosted by Go Power Sports. We get the Tillotson 225 running, make a few modifications to the engine, and a few modifications to the bike, and hit the track!
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The improvement over stock is HUGE! This bike absolutely hauls tail.
you should use a 50:1 two stoke mix on first startup ... it will lube the valves
You have to shave the head until the spark plug touches the piston then use a copper washer to space the spark plug up, mines been like that for 20+ hours of use and runs super strong
This video may have convinced me to get a mb200 and gold it for next year. I really want to race my 1966 sportsman mini trail. You guys and Rick Watson may have sealed the deal. I'll still bring my vintage bike though. Lol
You should actually make that the official Mini Mayhem Bike, and keep it running no matter what.....and let it morph into different itterations here and there, over the years.... 😎
are you guys ever do something else than these Borring minibikes , it seems you do them all the time and its like Ike is worn out ........ sorry for being honest
In all seriousness, it's awesome to see Ike recovered 100%. That is a sweeeet lil bike!!
Im not 100٪ yet
@@isaacitllbefine7231 glad you doing better bro!!!
@@isaacitllbefine7231 My boss gets nervous every time I use your motto at work.
You guys need some kind of automatic lap timing system. I think it’s about time the new course had something like that.
that would make allot of sense, and it would be easy to make too, since its only one rider at a time.
Man, I'd almost be willing to come from Michigan to cut down those 2 trees (one on the left and one on the right) in the woods part, right before the stream crossing. Those get me every time I'm watching the hot laps 😆 I'm like don't hit it don't hit it...great video guy's!
The three of yall together on this channel is awesome! It's perfect
Increasing compression ratio will make massive gains in torque. When you made such a massive gear change you didn't let these gains in torque shine through. The beauty of torque is that it allows for rapid acceleration even with the high speed gearing. With the 60 tooth rear sprocket it ripped through the lower RPM band so quickly you didn't get to FEEL the torque at work. Put a speedometer on the rear tire and check the speed from 2500 engine RPM to 4500 engine RPM with the 54 tooth and the 60 tooth. Assuming the torque is available to pull the 54 tooth ratio, the bike will have accelerated faster and to a higher top speed. Run the track again with the 54 tooth.
Exhaust changes are huge when going from any legal noise suppressing exhaust to open exhaust. On a single cylinder engine it is hard to beat a straight pipe, BUT, tune-able exhaust will allow for fine tuning the powerband for a given track.
In my life I have run Supertrapp exhaust on everything from a XR75 to a daily driven FJ1100 Yamaha. Buy one and experiment with it. You will learn a LOT about tuning motorcycles.
I better quit before Charles accuses me of obfuscating. ;)
Supertrapp Is the best sounding exhaust ive ever had ..
costs more than a new predator 212 but worth it .
I would kill to see a series where you take the top 10 on your leader board and fix up some of the short comings to see what improvements you can make. The more down to earth (cheaper) the better.
Judging from the way lke was pulling on that starter his shoulder must be doing a lot better, good to see 👍👍👍.
1:57 Wow! Ike’s arm is much better!!!!
Charles is getting a lot more comfortable on the camera! I like that.
The GPS 180 was a blast. Thanks for stopping by in the parking lot to check out my '68 Fox chopper.
Isaac hit the turn too hot,
“AND A LITTLE BIT OF POO CAME OUT.” #IsaacClarkson 😂
Ive taken a picture with this bike! Glad to see it on the channel again!!
Great video guys!
Ike is always on the tight line. Sometimes a fast long corner can be quicker than a short one. I'm looking around 26.43 grass to road. It's fun to try different lines
Im still waiting on a Double stacked... double decked, twin engine build. Tons of room above most of these engines, just throw another one in ! Maybe a slight frame mod =) GL in the Gambler!
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Now that I've heard multiple single cylinders, the Tillotson 225 definitely has a characteristic sound to it.
Briggs do too, well the old intake series, im not liken their new torque series engines as much
@@TetraHydroCannabinolTHC To me the first thing that came to mind when I heard the new Briggs was a tin can being hit with a small stick. That “tink tink tink tink” sound.
Finally ! You aren’t riding a bone shaker ! Long live suspension setups !
Dang that thing even looks quick on camera and if it looks quick on camera it definitely hauls some balls lol.
Please do a PIMP MY GO KART series where you revamp other people’s go karts and mini bikes.
I like how excited you guys are about whatever you do.
You all rock , I am a outboard mechanic and deal with carburetor issues all the time, you need to get a ultra sonic cleaner ,game charger
There should be a little spring that slide over the bolt and holds the foot pegs down but allows for them to come up if thay hit something and thn go back down to where they should be. Grate video 👍👍💯👍 if u want the springs look for pit bike pegs you can get thm on ebay
Or put a bolt with a spring and a cam mechanism on it that way if you hit something hard it compresses the spring and allows the peg to move.
Such a blast! Going full suspension next time!
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Good luck man! I can't wait for the race!
Man those brakes are a game changer!
Congratulations on the 1 million subscribers!!!!!
John makes mini bikes look like full size bikes lol
Ps, love the content bois. Been watching for years!
"check the ouel" 😂😂 ike is so dope!
The older John gets, the more tools he carries on his belt. Can't wait for the 180 video to drop
Yes boys another quality video,keep up the good work ,much love from London uk
Absolutely ridiculously fast! Nice holeshot!
It would be awesome if next time you guys have this bike out, if you do straight acceleration at both 65 and 120 feet like you did with your first Mb-200 build. I compared my mostly stock (just suspension and 60 tooth sprocket) 200-2 to your original build and the results were pretty interesting, and I would love to see just how much faster this beast is!
Good job guys. Looking forward to the next video.
Port matched my OHV lawn mower, Bounces off the governor without trying. Defiantly worth doing.
you guys should try to find a honda 270 or something similar and turn it up! I'd be interested in seeing how a souped up honda does against an equally modded predator!
Ike was in the zone on your track.
Always good to watch ur videos fellas
That Tillitson 225 is great for limited race classes, but the cost is too prohibitive for the average mini bike owner. A salvaged Yamaha/Honda/Suzuki/Kawasaki four stroke 250 dirt bike engine is hundreds less and would slaughter the Tillitson 225.
Great racing skills, Ike! You're the man for risking life and limb as the official C&C test pilot!
Love your content guys!
You guys inspired me to build my own stuff and channel!
I was just there today!!!!! I wish I would have caught y’all in time. Keller tx
I'd love to get a Old Three Wheeler and fix it up. I'm a Big Boy so I'd need a Old Big Red or smthng. Still prob have to do some work on it. Just for casual riding, no mudding or dirt track.
Nice too see you again
Those guys would have me rollin on the floor. It would take me days to recover from laughing so much.
Great job guys!
The cylinder head work does make a big difference use higher octane fuel brings the compression up and macduffie give you more torque keep up the good work wherever you guys are getting your information from you think so much like me and I'm a lot older than you guys wow
As kids trying tune 50cc engines we would double the base gasket, rub the head dead flat on a sheet of glass and install it on a much thinner homemade head gasket (usually thin copper) checking squish with a bead of plasticine on the piston. Never really knew if it made a difference, but we swore it did.
*using valve lapping compound thinned with turpentine.
Break clean in the engine isn’t good for the seals it will melt the valve seals and other rubber gaskets and seals it comes into contact with use starting fluid or carb and choke cleaner but I suggest no more break cleaner in the engine fellas read on the can it says to not use it on rubber seals and gaskets.and I can’t wait to see the race 🤙🏻 and a little tip I’ve rode bikes for about 35 years and I’ve found when breaking on a two wheeled machine you always want to use more pressure on the rear brakes cause if you grab the front harder than the rear in in loose dirt or sand the front end will dig in and wash out and you will loose the front end 9/10 times depending on how much brake pressure you apply be safe that little bike looks like a ripper👍🤙🏻
Wrote Finnish on the cover, didn’t know you guys had ancestors from Finland, glad you finished the bike though!!!! ;)
Love this. Just been pestering Paul's Karts to hook you guys up with his units as they are top notch. As always thank you and more please.
When you’re going on jumps, squeeze the bike with your legs, you can control it so much better and your feet won’t fly off of the pegs
Keep them coming, great fun.
That thing hauls the groceries!
A timed straight line acceleration test would be better for testing power gains. Too many variables around a course.
25:22 Let's be honest gentlemen that tree on the left needs to go . no sense temping fate when you can avoid it. even if you feel the need to rerun your lap times for each cart/bike , I think it'd be worth it. we like ya all in one piece.
Definitely. Those 2 trees need to go big-time
Love it guys you really turned that up to full😎
I’d like to suggest putting some burms on some of the corners of the track! I think you had a tractor, bet it wouldn’t be too hard to do?
Re the footpegs folding up on Ike, I think you should look into knocking up a light spring to hold them in the down position yet not stop them folding up in an emergency.
A grinder and paint, make me the welder I ain't.
Love mini bikes man great vid
Congrats on the win , Y’all did great !!
Thanks
As always awesome content!!!
Man that bike is a bad boy. I love to have that thing . I had one similar when I was a kid not quite that fast but I still Remember how fun it was. Also the one I had would run side by side with a old xr 80 the boy down the street had. Mini bikes are so fun.
Nice one lads, great vid.
Good call on keeping the knobby tires much better then those GPS V crap...
Awesome vid guys, Thanks
I want one! Nice video guys!
Great video and information. I have an idea. It would kind of knock y'all down a bit but serve as a goal. Get ahold of a professional motor cross racer or a professional flat track racer to run your track. Let their time be a goal to reach on a mini bike. Just an idea.
Love you guys keep up the good work
ask and you shall receive lol awesome guys was waiting for this one. also I think putting some more time into fixing yalls track up would help yalls track times. like mainly cutting some of those big sketchy trees in the woods or bushes in the corners. and making the fast turns wider.
mad early, been watching you for years
Magic words are..... it'll be fine
Can't wait to see the next vid. Thanks guys.
Completely unrelated to what I typed in and was GOING TO watch, but I have NO complaints.
Rally driver Michelle Mouton once said something in the likes of "It doesn't matter if you're a woman or a man, everyone poops their pants a little bit sometimes." Don't feel bad, Ike. ^^
I almost skipped this one glad I didn’t 😂😎👍
Be like Ike! Gear up, to ride again tomorrow!!!!!!!
You had to mention "turbo" near the end and remind me of the turbo kart project, imagine a (working!!) turbo on this bike, you'll be flying!!! :P
man love what u guys do keep it up and feedback for charles hes ace and makes u guys the three musketeers go boys goooooo
When I first started as a millwright my old boss used to tell me that all the time sometimes u gotta slow down to speed up
On the headder I’d drill all the holes 1 size bigger for more flow plus it gives them a better tone
Damn feel like left hanging a lil.. I wanna see the race epi already...lol
Lmao Ike! I need glasses! 🤣😉
I’ve watched this probably 5 times. I never seen Ike so determined. Someone must have talked trash or something.
That look and Ike was like "Do we want to put a cam in it?"
need to get the ricky bobby side burns going agen lol shake and bake baby shake and bake
Also could cut the valve guides and make them shorter that will also open up for more fuel and air to flow through
Heck yeah brother
Hey you guys made a great motor and sounded cool too
Nice build cool video
Once again you guys are amazing thank you so much for this upload I look forward to them greetings from up North by Seattle Washington State you guys be safe have fun live a little thank you guys look forward for the next episode 👍
That bike is awesome
Yo just an idea. What if you have yourself, Ike and Charles a budget to buy/fix a go kart and the winner is the person that can set the fastest time around the grand prix
i might need to keep an eye out for one of those bikes they are sweet.
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I'd love to have a bike like that.
Love the show!
Put John on it for half a dozen hard driving laps and he will have the fastest time..
Put a spring on the foot pegs to keep it down
I'm impressed that the belt sander provides a flat enough surface for the head gasket. I would not have tried that.
It has to be a nice belt sander
A nice piece of 10mm+ glass, blue dye and 120, 320 then 600 grade rubbing compound thinned with turps using a figure 8 pattern and rotating. You can't hold it engineering square on a sander by hand. Getting away with it doesn't equal right.