The Triton sub looks like something from the cover of an issue of Popular Science or Popular Mechanics in the 1960s, and I don't mean that in a bad way.
The use of acrylic in submarine design is a game-changer, blending clarity for exploration with structural resilience. It’s fascinating how materials science continues to redefine what's possible underwater
I feel like our capabilities with ROV's has advanced so much, you don't have to deal with the extra headache that comes with "trying to keep a human alive" So I feel like that should be the main approach we take to studying the ocean. I'm all for human carrying submersibles to a certain depth but for the most part they should stick to shallower water. (I'd love to see if an underwater ROV could utilize these new Insta360 cameras because it could really open the door to exploring with a new perspective rather than the limited camera views we have dealt with that can be really flat narrow perspectives)
I find it funny how critically important the acrylic sphere is and they are moving it with a forklift with non-slip resistant straps. They should be using a gantry crane and slip resistant straps.
You think no 'rich guys' ride the other ones? James Cameron *himself* has big bucks...but he also *knows* his stuff, and associates with people who do.
It is more dangerous to go underwater than into the air any craft needs to be up to spacecraft engineering there can be more pressure on it than in low earth orbit
The using the word "sub" in the video title, the video could have been the subject of a sandwich or a submersible vessel. But being NOVA, I thought it must be about a submersible vessel. Good show.
The very fact that the Triton submersible went to the five deepest trenches in the Earth's oceans smacks of "record chasing" in and of itself... The very concept smacks of hubris. I would trust them almost as little as the Ocean Gate Titan Submersible which imploded.
Just to be clear, Triton submersibles did not come up with the idea to build the DSV Limiting Factor (the DSV that went to be bottom of the 5 oceans). They were commissioned to build it because they are one of the top submersible makers in the world with a perfect safety record. The job they were hired to do was to design and build a DSV that could go to the deepest point in the ocean safely and that's what they delivered. I think the worst consequence of the Titan disaster is that a lot of people don't recognize that the true hubris there was not in building a DSV for ocean exploration or tourism or even record chasing, but rather that Stockton Rush ignored all the warnings from all the experts that the design of the Titan was flawed. A lot of people don't seem to realize that the real problem with the Titan was not what he was doing, but rather how he choose to do it. If the Titan had been designed and built properly and to the proper DSV safety standards, nobody would be talking about hubris in the DSV community. Stockton Rush did massive damage to the otherwise perfect reputation of the overall DSV community with his hubris.
@@SectionNyne amen. and the guy that paid for it did a lot of firsts in different areas. the DSV was a spherical hollow ball of titanium that was forged and pressure tested.
horrified is not the right word.. when rich, entitled, idiots ignore every warning and get themselves killed.. it's not horrific.. it's just stupid.. maybe even funny.. but not horrific.. I only feel sorry for the kid, but every one of them made the decision to be on that sub.
I am not sure too many people were horrified by the Ocean Gate incident. It's pretty obvious that who situation was a slap dash project done by a bunch of impulsive rich people who should of known better. If anything the horror is that there were people that wealthy who were that stupid to go through with it.
Must have pressure foward sensing because terrains change pressure like narraow chanel increase pressure suddenly csn cause implosion or even airplane got implosion if travel at super sonic speed. For submarine use water pump water out skin with grid hole to prevent implosion or double skin with holes pressure release out back push forwardv
@ErikOlsen1 When the narrator first mentions a maximum depth of 600 feet, the Triton 660/9 Ava is being discussed. When the narrator next mentions a maximum depth of 600 feet, the Triton 660/9 Ava is being discussed. Immediately after the second mention of a maximum depth of 600 feet, while still discussing the Triton 660/9 Ava, the narrator then states the submarine will be able to take passengers to the deep ocean, which is not found at 600 feet. The same submarine was under discussion at all of the relevant points during the video. All the narrator had to do was say as soon as the final tests were done, passengers could be taken to the maximum depth of 600 feet (if you check the Trtion website, the actual maximum depth is listed at 656 feet), instead of the ridiculous deep ocean exaggeration.
The Titan inident was NOT a disaster, but a tragedy. A sad, avoidable tragedy but nothing more than that. So Nova spent this part of this documetary shilling for a private company that will allow "non-specialist" to visit the deep sea. Who will this group of people be? Uber-rich, fat cat bazillionaires and corporate takers who have all kinds of money to piss away on undersea joyrides or trips into space. I Don't give a crap about this stupid company or the manufactured drama surrounding acrylic fitness or screw-size tweaking. Your series and this viseo are disgusting.
Am I the only person who sees these small, private subs as nothing more than toys for the ultra-rich? I am all about scientific study, but there is a reason that almost all actual scientific study is done by ROVs.
I agree. I would only point out that eyeglasses were once (600 years ago) only owned by the ultra rich or extreme scholars. Now we can get eyeglasses for all but the poorest- and there are programs for them. Just a thought my friend.
Well, most things today which are highly complex machines are only capable of being developed and produced by wealthy countries or individuals. Even Mr. Musk gets contracts (money) from the US Government for his SpaceX operations. But with both the video and ROV technology that we have today, there is no reason to risk human life on deep dives.
There are lots of things that started out as toys for the rich. Cars, planes, cell phones, computers, even things like books started out as things only the wealthy could afford. The bottom line is that for most things when they are first invented, someone needs to pay to have the technology developed and refined to the point that it can come down in price enough for the average person to afford. It's simply the way this stuff has always worked. The wealthy pay the first mover costs and then the rest of us get to benefit once the costs come down enough.
@@Weaver1812 And it wasn't long ago that you were at least 'well off' to have a mobile telephone... Now people look at you funny if you don't have one.
Would we understand the danger of climate change if we had never explored the Antarctic and its ice sheets? Or another example, it was research done with deep ice samples in the Antarctic that helped proved the dangerous amount lead being put into the atmosphere from leaded gasoline. Ignorance is not bliss, it’s dangerous.
You know that humans began in East Central Africa...do you advocate all of us returning there? Even non-human animals migrate from where they originally evolved...and evolve further, to fit those new conditions. Welcome to 'life.'
The Triton sub looks like something from the cover of an issue of Popular Science or Popular Mechanics in the 1960s, and I don't mean that in a bad way.
Good call. It is very similar to that design style.
The use of acrylic in submarine design is a game-changer, blending clarity for exploration with structural resilience. It’s fascinating how materials science continues to redefine what's possible underwater
Nova has been great FOREVER! 🤘🏻👍🏻🇺🇲
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Ocean deep being explored ~🐬~🔱
I feel like our capabilities with ROV's has advanced so much, you don't have to deal with the extra headache that comes with "trying to keep a human alive" So I feel like that should be the main approach we take to studying the ocean. I'm all for human carrying submersibles to a certain depth but for the most part they should stick to shallower water. (I'd love to see if an underwater ROV could utilize these new Insta360 cameras because it could really open the door to exploring with a new perspective rather than the limited camera views we have dealt with that can be really flat narrow perspectives)
Agreed. I also feel this way about space. The money spent just keeping humans alive would go farther using robotics and AI.
I'm going to wait a couple hundred years for that
I find it funny how critically important the acrylic sphere is and they are moving it with a forklift with non-slip resistant straps. They should be using a gantry crane and slip resistant straps.
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If there are currents then when you dump waist into an ocean in time it will spread around the world . Just look at micro plastics .
mini subs had a perfect safety record until those rich guys imploded. perfect.
You think no 'rich guys' ride the other ones?
James Cameron *himself* has big bucks...but he also *knows* his stuff, and associates with people who do.
"I'm gonna go get the papers, get the papers."
"Horrified"? No. It was just the consequence of determined corner-cutting arrogance.
It is more dangerous to go underwater than into the air any craft needs to be up to spacecraft engineering there can be more pressure on it than in low earth orbit
we need more billionaires to test them out
The using the word "sub" in the video title, the video could have been the subject of a sandwich or a submersible vessel. But being NOVA, I thought it must be about a submersible vessel. Good show.
To be honest I'm betting NOVA could make building a sandwich pretty epic and interesting too, haha!
What could possibly go wrong?
Like that big aquarium in Berlin?
But the fish come visit you from the outside ;-D
The very fact that the Triton submersible went to the five deepest trenches in the Earth's oceans smacks of "record chasing" in and of itself... The very concept smacks of hubris. I would trust them almost as little as the Ocean Gate Titan Submersible which imploded.
Just to be clear, Triton submersibles did not come up with the idea to build the DSV Limiting Factor (the DSV that went to be bottom of the 5 oceans). They were commissioned to build it because they are one of the top submersible makers in the world with a perfect safety record. The job they were hired to do was to design and build a DSV that could go to the deepest point in the ocean safely and that's what they delivered.
I think the worst consequence of the Titan disaster is that a lot of people don't recognize that the true hubris there was not in building a DSV for ocean exploration or tourism or even record chasing, but rather that Stockton Rush ignored all the warnings from all the experts that the design of the Titan was flawed. A lot of people don't seem to realize that the real problem with the Titan was not what he was doing, but rather how he choose to do it. If the Titan had been designed and built properly and to the proper DSV safety standards, nobody would be talking about hubris in the DSV community. Stockton Rush did massive damage to the otherwise perfect reputation of the overall DSV community with his hubris.
@@SectionNyne amen. and the guy that paid for it did a lot of firsts in different areas. the DSV was a spherical hollow ball of titanium that was forged and pressure tested.
Just use field propulsion and problem solved of pressure and depth just like the USO that have been captured on RADAR/SONAR
Anything with the word Gate at the end seems to be a bad thing.
horrified is not the right word.. when rich, entitled, idiots ignore every warning and get themselves killed.. it's not horrific.. it's just stupid.. maybe even funny.. but not horrific.. I only feel sorry for the kid, but every one of them made the decision to be on that sub.
Did you consider all of the passengers were lied to as an inducement to dive?
@@leepatton3538 i only consider the facts and the only one who didn't know the full danger was that kid.
IKR “the World was horrified!” 😂😂😂😂💀
I am not sure too many people were horrified by the Ocean Gate incident. It's pretty obvious that who situation was a slap dash project done by a bunch of impulsive rich people who should of known better.
If anything the horror is that there were people that wealthy who were that stupid to go through with it.
Must have pressure foward sensing because terrains change pressure like narraow chanel increase pressure suddenly csn cause implosion or even airplane got implosion if travel at super sonic speed. For submarine use water pump water out skin with grid hole to prevent implosion or double skin with holes pressure release out back push forwardv
You stated the Triton sub's max depth as 600 feet. Then you stated it could take people to the deep ocean. A depth of 600 feet is not the deep ocean.
Different subs
@ErikOlsen1
When the narrator first mentions a maximum depth of 600 feet, the Triton 660/9 Ava is being discussed.
When the narrator next mentions a maximum depth of 600 feet, the Triton 660/9 Ava is being discussed.
Immediately after the second mention of a maximum depth of 600 feet, while still discussing the Triton 660/9 Ava, the narrator then states the submarine will be able to take passengers to the deep ocean, which is not found at 600 feet.
The same submarine was under discussion at all of the relevant points during the video.
All the narrator had to do was say as soon as the final tests were done, passengers could be taken to the maximum depth of 600 feet (if you check the Trtion website, the actual maximum depth is listed at 656 feet), instead of the ridiculous deep ocean exaggeration.
What could possibly go wrong
Was it just me or this is a 12:30 advertisement piece funded by tax payers?
Aren't you supposed to be using an Xbox controller with that...??? LOL!
It was a cheap off brand controller on top of that too.
metric please
That’s not exactly the best choice of name, is it?
The Titan inident was NOT a disaster, but a tragedy. A sad, avoidable tragedy but nothing more than that. So Nova spent this part of this documetary shilling for a private company that will allow "non-specialist" to visit the deep sea. Who will this group of people be? Uber-rich, fat cat bazillionaires and corporate takers who have all kinds of money to piss away on undersea joyrides or trips into space. I Don't give a crap about this stupid company or the manufactured drama surrounding acrylic fitness or screw-size tweaking. Your series and this viseo are disgusting.
I bet you would say the same for the space program in 1960s. 😊
Am I the only person who sees these small, private subs as nothing more than toys for the ultra-rich? I am all about scientific study, but there is a reason that almost all actual scientific study is done by ROVs.
I agree. I would only point out that eyeglasses were once (600 years ago) only owned by the ultra rich or extreme scholars. Now we can get eyeglasses for all but the poorest- and there are programs for them. Just a thought my friend.
Well, most things today which are highly complex machines are only capable of being developed and produced by wealthy countries or individuals. Even Mr. Musk gets contracts (money) from the US Government for his SpaceX operations.
But with both the video and ROV technology that we have today, there is no reason to risk human life on deep dives.
There are lots of things that started out as toys for the rich. Cars, planes, cell phones, computers, even things like books started out as things only the wealthy could afford. The bottom line is that for most things when they are first invented, someone needs to pay to have the technology developed and refined to the point that it can come down in price enough for the average person to afford. It's simply the way this stuff has always worked. The wealthy pay the first mover costs and then the rest of us get to benefit once the costs come down enough.
@@Weaver1812 Quite a bit of a difference of utility and necessity between eye glasses and miniature subs though.
@@Weaver1812 And it wasn't long ago that you were at least 'well off' to have a mobile telephone...
Now people look at you funny if you don't have one.
whatever 🙄 DEI stalkers
Sorry but it’s too much of a drama..
Cant we just leave the earth alone. We dont have to understand or explore everything.
Would we understand the danger of climate change if we had never explored the Antarctic and its ice sheets? Or another example, it was research done with deep ice samples in the Antarctic that helped proved the dangerous amount lead being put into the atmosphere from leaded gasoline. Ignorance is not bliss, it’s dangerous.
You know that humans began in East Central Africa...do you advocate all of us returning there?
Even non-human animals migrate from where they originally evolved...and evolve further, to fit those new conditions.
Welcome to 'life.'