That's some torque.. Most folk don't realise the amount of torque those rigs can apply to the rods and the bit. Once upon a time I worked on a bunch of the North Sea oil rigs. The rigs were enormous, but were in deep water so when a drill hit a tough bit of rock and slowed, the kit on deck kept turning for a while to push through the issue. When it released the entire rig would whiplash back. It was a bit weird at first but you got used to it :) These new rods are a a whole new level :)
Oh man that’s awesome! Can you remember what size rods they were using? The biggest I can see API goes to is 8 5/8!? Which are bloody huge. I’d love to spend a week on a big offshore rig. All our work is land based… but I’d just love to see how they operate up close. Such a fascinating field.
@@halheavyduty It was back in the mid 70's , I didn't get a lot of spare time on those early trips, but when I did one of my favourite spots was watching the tool pushers adding or removing rods. From memory the biggest rods I saw were a little over 5 inches in diameter. It was tough condition in those days for the pushers, especially in the winter. At that time I was doing work on the 5 BP Forties rigs. One of the five had just started producing, but they were still drilling. Interesting times for sure. I'm sure you'd enjoy it if you ever got a chance :) In the early days I was not classed as an essential worker, so I'd have to sleep on one rig, and commute by helicopter to the rig where I was working every morning and fly back at night. It was an amazing experience.
Back in 1970, my dad help build and assemble a torque machine that would develop a million pounds of torque. He and the engineer were testing it out on some drill steel connections, the DI-22, and twisted off one at around 250,00 Ft-Lbs of torque. All of that drill steel went to your neck of the woods and South America back then. Sadily, it's all gone today. Have no clue what happen to the torque machine.
Just watched my weekly dose of Kurtis at CEE and up popped your channel in my suggested watching. Subbed, you got a new follower over in the home country, England
We built a test stand for the military to test helicopter transmissions. Two 1,000 HP motors in, 2,000 HP out the top to the big blade, 250 out the back for the tail rotor. The main mast ran up to 80,000 Ft-Lbs. It was amazing how small that transmission was.
6:48 "Things are destined to get destroyed" I know that feeling. But that keeps the business running. That 6.5T gravel bucket I finished welding will come back in a year or so, 1 ton lighter from wear and needing a new cutting edge.
I commented on another of your videos about another large machine I used to run. A Weiler E110, the company I was working for was a manufacturing company that did a little bit of repair work. That big Weiler lathe was making parts for Top drives and coil injectors. On these top drives there was the quill and load sleeve. The load sleeve had a thread of 11.875 x 1 Acme thread. Biggest thread I have or probably will ever cut.
The oil exploration business is just for me at an uncompromisable sizes and specs. It makes for very compelling content! Torque tightened to 65K ft lbs I don't even see how it's possible to measure that extreme let alone actually tighten to that spec. Keep explaining what you do as if you are talking to a six year old it's very entertaining and I'm hooked, thanks for taking me along. And after that torque you need a Loctite type product to add insurance, unbelievable. Ray
These rods and fittings make the equipment that I used to use look like garden tools. I used to do foundation investigation drilling using NMLC core barrels with NW rods and casing. I thought at the time that they were heavy enough to throw around. It will be interesting to see the finished machine set up.
Nice work! We machine up NW rods all the time… and I’ve gotta admit they feel rather small these days. I remember the first time I had to do an 7 5/8 Reg thread and how daunting that was… Now it all seems small compared to these monsters.
I manufacture torque machines for a leading brand in the drilling industry so really enjoyed seeing this video. Its not very often you get to see them in operation. Keep it up 👍
WOW, once again a good job, specially the jaw grip was good to see. The most beautiful thing was to introduce the new generation to your web family.Thanks alot and GOD bless the baby good health and bright future.
Good boys.. Torque monster. I been around blast rigs a bit, Shot firer, Argyle. Then I got lazy and started swinging shovels. Love the big stuff man, cranking.
Nice work brother! Yeah. The big stuff fascinates the hell out of me. This project is off the bloody charts. I just want to see that big bit chomp a 3m hole without spinning the rig 🤣
Great video Matt, Reminded me of the Weatherford Bucking unit attached to the firm i worked for . They had a concrete shed for protection for if things go pear shaped ...hydraulic oil makes a real mess
@@halheavyduty You've caused me to do some digging in my old stuff and found my Drilling Engineers Notebook back. Looked at some of the make-up torques we used on a regular base during drilling the top hole section. For weight we used up to 10,5 inch drill collars in the bottom hole assembly which use a 7 5/8 REG (regular) thread. The make-up torque got up to 123000 ft.lbs using the rig tongs. We normaly had to use a set of tackle and blocks to reach this torque because the cathead wasn't strong enough.
Been recommended after I have just watch CEE video glad I found your channel I used to do a lot of piling help make a few drill and drop hammer rigs from mini excavator to a drill rig to a case that was used in the channel tunnel with a slew motor on its boom that was turned in to a drop hammer rig I have subbed
WOW, big job, big machines. I never knew 65k ft lb could even be achieved. Seeing your welder in that confined space reminded me of a doco that I saw stating even though you are in a confided space that is rusty, you still need very good ventilation because the rust is also consuming the oxygen inside along with you and if not well ventilated, asphixiation can occour. Would've enjoyed having your scare reaction on video too 😆😆😆
Stuff my mechanic gutted out on my crank bolt 240ft lb, couldn't crack it, time for a new mechanic cheers great video. PS I wanted to grind off the marks when you zoomed in
Hahaha. Thankfully they all got ground nicely at the very end. It’s a bloody difficult thing to watch… your finest work being mauled by a 50,000 ft pound maker breaker on the back of a rig 🤣
I roll threads on high pressure tubing used in the oil fields here in the US. This is a perfect example of why we roll threads and not cut them. Would you happen to know if they are rolled or cut? I would think they are rolled I’ve seen cut threads fail at less torque.
@@halheavyduty LMT FETTE tools makes the rolling heads we use. They are based out of Germany and are quite expensive if you don’t have the costumer base and workflow for them. When you start getting into the 5-6in rolling heads they are about 80-100k usd. Rolling Dies are also a wear item and cost about 4K a set. If you deal in heavy industry and I see you do it’s usually pretty easy to sell big companies on rolled threads to prevent costly repairs. the company i work for A&A machine and fabrication based out of la marque texas can also work with you. we do lots of global work. cheers
@@halheavydutywhy aren’t they turned from an annealed “high” carbon alloy, then heat treated? Of course it is more expensive, but so is fishing for broken drill parts.
I've worked in the oilfield in louisiana Texas Pennsylvania north Dakota familiar with the concepts but I've always heard in multiple industry's that welds are stronger than the original material it's crazy that the welds won't hold up vs original material
It’s mind boggling. Yeah, the welds definitely won’t hold up - even with a crown attached. They do alright for a few holes, but eventually fatigue due to the immense torque generated.
It’s mind boggling. Yeah, the welds definitely won’t hold up - even with a crown attached. They do alright for a few holes, but eventually fatigue due to the immense torque generated.
I saw when the "Old age and treachery" occurred. 10:40 at this point you have to wonder why you bothered with a decent surface finish beyond just making the outside concentric with the bore. 😔
Great video! Can you make one showing the threading procedure? Lastly; do those jaw marks cause a weak point in the pipe structure? Especially the ones where the jaw slips?
Thanks mate. Yes, we can do a vid on how we thread the rods. We are about to build an even bigger set… so I’ll make sure to include a full episode on it. The walls of the rods were specifically over designed with 1/2” wall thickness, so those teeth marks won’t affect the strength needed to get the job done. They look gnarly though 🤣
10:00 I was going to ask how you can even apply that much torque without the jaws slipping and turning into impromptu shaping tools. Guess that's that question answered.
It's hard at first to watch your finest work get mauled by the jaws of a rig... but you get used to it. Just the nature of the beast... We ended up welding a block on the tooljoint to assist for the final 50-65k ft lb push. Even with the jaws full lock, it still slipped due to the immense torque. Out of 30 rods, we've just about completed them. What a bloody mission. These rods are nuts... and sadly you simply can't buy them this big. They don't exist.
Looks like they're using 8-5/8" casing for drill rod with adapters instead of collars. Bakerlock, I've fixed many of items with that, including leaking aluminum boats! I miss the drilling and fishing tool business. Flournoy drilling USA and Wilson Downhole here. Bad ass stuff ya are doing! BTW, I bet the kelley hose on that's a biggun!
Close! The pipe is actually 10” (with a 1/2” wall thickness) We had to custom design the threads because 8 5/8 wasn’t big enough for the volumes of cuttings that the 3m drill produces. Yeah, Bakerlok is insane stuff. Once it cures… we’ve never seen a connection let go. If you check out a video on the channel called “the big guns” we custom make the Kelley hose. It’s massive! Thanks for tuning in brother - all the way from the USA 🇺🇸👊✌️
@@halheavyduty What about some copper plating or phosphating on those rotary connections. It helps to reduce galling during make up and break out, and can help the thread compound to better adhere. The old Drilco recipe of copper sulphate crystals dissolved in sulphuric acid with the resulting solution being applied to the connection instantly deposits a layer of copper that will do the job
In another application I saw a giant thermoplastic part between these tapered fittings. It was almost 5mm thick and had both the ID and OD taper. What would that be used for?
Matt, any vid that includes upcoming machinists and doggo's, is always gonna be the best. The screwing up was quite interesting but I find your industry "bore-ing" LoL Keep it up mate.👌👍👍
Hah, yeah so true, if you make parts for aerospace you know they gonna last a long time usually but when you machine some stuff for drilling industry it's gonna be a consumable and they very soon need a few more of em. Also i think that's the heaviest bit of screwing around on youtube i seen so far. ~88kN is no joke. Thanks for uploading and excellent work!
Cheers mate! Yeah… when they told me the forces these tool joints had to endure… we had more than a few revisions of the design. Every single one has held up so far. Fingers crossed the bit rig doesn’t just destroy them 🤣 We’re not far from finding out!
Great question. It’ll still crack them off after a few holes. The rotational stress forces generated by the drill bit are insane. They won’t usually snap, but they crack and fatigues which then fails QC checks… and it’s very expensive. We’ll see how these rods go. Fingers crossed they hold up. A good set of rods should be good for hundreds of holes
Tad too big for current range of rotary friction welders, drill pipe 6 5/8 API super heavyweight is our standard fayre on a 2000 kN machine, but we have built bigger. Regards from the UK. Great machinery
So each one of those sections of drill pipe are gonna be connected together to go down 820 feet or whatever it is how much directional or torsional twist is that much pipe gonna have so if you were to scratch a plum line down 800 foot pipehow much is the bottom going twist compared to the top?
So far the drillers have gotten all the big holes pretty damn close to plumb 25 x9m rods plus the drill head (approx 12m assembled) There are three centralisers used every 8 rods to help as well.
The irony wasn’t lost on me either… The thread locker had a surprising ability to help it glide on, before locking it down like Fort Knox. Amazing stuff.
It’s funny. You need copper dope so it won’t lock up on the main threads… and the worlds craziest thread locker on the tool joint threads so the WONT LET GO hahahaha
I’m not 100% sure, but as per most things drilling related, it’s massively over designed for shear tolerances. There is a LOT of thread engagement happening with only the slightest taper. We used a similar style with our current bit rig and it had roughly 1/3 of the engagement of those threads and never let go. Mind you… it only did a 1.2m hole. In theory these should hold with plenty of margin for error. That said… we are in very uncharted territory. Prayers will be said on the maiden voyage for sure.
Well spotted Stu. Yeah we picked up a third little CNC to help speed things up. Going to fire it up next week. Fingers crossed it works. We got it second hand sight unseen… but I’ve got a pretty good feeling about it. I don’t think it’s actually done any work! A gamble… but it might just be a win
@halheavyduty is that 1 degree per side or on diameter ? I have machined connections with Parallel and Taper on the same thread......the lead on the parallel part of the thread is different to the lead on the tapered part.
4 tpi & 165mm of thread. They’ve all held up so far, but the ultimate test is once they go down the hole. All uncharted territory… so prayers will be said. And a few fingers crossed 🤞
Why did you even do a finish pass if you're going to bite teeth into that surface like that haha But as you said, these are basically consumables and you're only making it to last long enough to do the job.
Have you ever considered a fractal vice for grabbing the pipes? It would have to be a custom made jobby but it might be a good option for getting a nice reliable grip on the pipes.
At about the 5:08-5:09 mark was where ya dad shared you With that surface being chewed up like that then maybe you should consider also burnish the parts ( your petty much cold forming/pressing all the tiny peeks of your surface into the tiny valleys of the surface. Makeing and prettier. Harder and more corrosion resistant surface )
Dad just can’t help himself 🤣 He’s so much fun to work with. The hardest worker in the room and a great sense of humour… We were going to nitride the tooljoints, but didn’t bother. Just too expensive.
So that's the tool the tire and tow shop uses to torque customers lug nuts.
💯 🤣
And the one lube techs use on your drain plugs
That's some torque.. Most folk don't realise the amount of torque those rigs can apply to the rods and the bit. Once upon a time I worked on a bunch of the North Sea oil rigs. The rigs were enormous, but were in deep water so when a drill hit a tough bit of rock and slowed, the kit on deck kept turning for a while to push through the issue. When it released the entire rig would whiplash back. It was a bit weird at first but you got used to it :) These new rods are a a whole new level :)
Oh man that’s awesome! Can you remember what size rods they were using?
The biggest I can see API goes to is 8 5/8!? Which are bloody huge.
I’d love to spend a week on a big offshore rig. All our work is land based… but I’d just love to see how they operate up close.
Such a fascinating field.
@@halheavyduty It was back in the mid 70's , I didn't get a lot of spare time on those early trips, but when I did one of my favourite spots was watching the tool pushers adding or removing rods. From memory the biggest rods I saw were a little over 5 inches in diameter. It was tough condition in those days for the pushers, especially in the winter. At that time I was doing work on the 5 BP Forties rigs. One of the five had just started producing, but they were still drilling. Interesting times for sure. I'm sure you'd enjoy it if you ever got a chance :) In the early days I was not classed as an essential worker, so I'd have to sleep on one rig, and commute by helicopter to the rig where I was working every morning and fly back at night. It was an amazing experience.
@@paulhammond7489 kinell !! Amazing stuff.
never thought torque numbers like that was even possible and this thing did it with a no sweat smile
Definitely won’t be unscrewing in a hurry. We hope 🤣✌️
Back in 1970, my dad help build and assemble a torque machine that would develop a million pounds of torque. He and the engineer were testing it out on some drill steel connections, the DI-22, and twisted off one at around 250,00 Ft-Lbs of torque. All of that drill steel went to your neck of the woods and South America back then. Sadily, it's all gone today. Have no clue what happen to the torque machine.
Holy crap that’s legit insane.
Thats a hell of a torque....the weldings cracked during torque up....amasing
Thanks for taking the time to make the video and share it
Cheers mate. I’m just glad other people find this stuff as interesting as I do 👊
Reminds me of my clockmaking days, same miniature parts.
💯🤣👊
Just watched my weekly dose of Kurtis at CEE and up popped your channel in my suggested watching. Subbed, you got a new follower over in the home country, England
Welcome aboard! Thanks for tuning in from across the pond mate.
exact same thing happen to me
🙏👊
Im an aerospace engineer. I no effin clue whats going on in this video. I love it.
Fn legend 🤣👊💯
We built a test stand for the military to test helicopter transmissions. Two 1,000 HP motors in, 2,000 HP out the top to the big blade, 250 out the back for the tail rotor. The main mast ran up to 80,000 Ft-Lbs. It was amazing how small that transmission was.
Wow. That sounds bloody interesting. It’s insane the tech that goes into military helicopters.
6:48 "Things are destined to get destroyed" I know that feeling. But that keeps the business running. That 6.5T gravel bucket I finished welding will come back in a year or so, 1 ton lighter from wear and needing a new cutting edge.
Exactly!
These drillers keep me employed perpetually. I make it, they break it.
Good times 🤣
This channel just came across my recommendations, I’m in!! G’day from Michigan, North America. ✌️
Awesome! Big G’day from the other side of the pond 👊✌️
I commented on another of your videos about another large machine I used to run. A Weiler E110, the company I was working for was a manufacturing company that did a little bit of repair work. That big Weiler lathe was making parts for Top drives and coil injectors. On these top drives there was the quill and load sleeve. The load sleeve had a thread of 11.875 x 1 Acme thread. Biggest thread I have or probably will ever cut.
Interesting! Sounds like a bloody big thread. That Weiler lathe has some serious grunt. Over double my CNC. I want one 🤣
The oil exploration business is just for me at an uncompromisable sizes and specs. It makes for very compelling content! Torque tightened to 65K ft lbs I don't even see how it's possible to measure that extreme let alone actually tighten to that spec. Keep explaining what you do as if you are talking to a six year old it's very entertaining and I'm hooked, thanks for taking me along. And after that torque you need a Loctite type product to add insurance, unbelievable. Ray
Baker lock....its been on the go for Years.
Its for locking the threads......just don't put it on to the SEAL😂
Cheers Ray! Appreciate the feedback and kind word mate. Glad you enjoyed it 👊👊
These rods and fittings make the equipment that I used to use look like garden tools. I used to do foundation investigation drilling using NMLC core barrels with NW rods and casing. I thought at the time that they were heavy enough to throw around. It will be interesting to see the finished machine set up.
Nice work! We machine up NW rods all the time… and I’ve gotta admit they feel rather small these days.
I remember the first time I had to do an 7 5/8 Reg thread and how daunting that was…
Now it all seems small compared to these monsters.
I manufacture torque machines for a leading brand in the drilling industry so really enjoyed seeing this video. Its not very often you get to see them in operation. Keep it up 👍
Awesome stuff mate! It never ceases to amaze me the cool gear that is out there
‘We are just about totally screwed up’ …… perfect 🤣
🤣💯👊
WOW, once again a good job, specially the jaw grip was good to see. The most beautiful thing was to introduce the new generation to your web family.Thanks alot and GOD bless the baby good health and bright future.
Thank you very much my friend. Really appreciate the kind words 🙏
@@halheavyduty Send me your address I have to send some gift for the baby.
Now that's a set of pipe tongs!
Wild setup, but they did the job! 💯👊
Good boys.. Torque monster. I been around blast rigs a bit, Shot firer, Argyle. Then I got lazy and started swinging shovels. Love the big stuff man, cranking.
Nice work brother! Yeah. The big stuff fascinates the hell out of me. This project is off the bloody charts.
I just want to see that big bit chomp a 3m hole without spinning the rig 🤣
@@halheavyduty 🤣
Great video Matt, Reminded me of the Weatherford Bucking unit attached to the firm i worked for . They had a concrete shed for protection for if things go pear shaped ...hydraulic oil makes a real mess
You’re not wrong there!
Just lovin' it, seeing all kind of familiar stuff from my drilling days. Those years have been the best of my life, it's a bug that never leaves you.
Nice one brother! Yep. It’s a unique experience that so many people fall in love with. Drilling is still very “Wild West” in so many ways.
@@halheavyduty You've caused me to do some digging in my old stuff and found my Drilling Engineers Notebook back. Looked at some of the make-up torques we used on a regular base during drilling the top hole section. For weight we used up to 10,5 inch drill collars in the bottom hole assembly which use a 7 5/8 REG (regular) thread. The make-up torque got up to 123000 ft.lbs using the rig tongs. We normaly had to use a set of tackle and blocks to reach this torque because the cathead wasn't strong enough.
Absolutely fascinating. Makes me want to change trades.
It’s a fun trade if you have the disposition for it.
Being a ranga I hate the outdoors, so being in a shed all day suits me perfectly 🤣
Hi Matt, great content again, nothing like a bit of baker lock and narley tong marks to make it stay connected, cheers Gary.
Cheers mate! Yep. Baker lok for the win 🥇
Been recommended after I have just watch CEE video glad I found your channel I used to do a lot of piling help make a few drill and drop hammer rigs from mini excavator to a drill rig to a case that was used in the channel tunnel with a slew motor on its boom that was turned in to a drop hammer rig I have subbed
Nice work mate. Love it. Thanks for subbing & being part of the channel.
WOW, big job, big machines. I never knew 65k ft lb could even be achieved.
Seeing your welder in that confined space reminded me of a doco that I saw stating even though you are in a confided space that is rusty, you still need very good ventilation because the rust is also consuming the oxygen inside along with you and if not well ventilated, asphixiation can occour.
Would've enjoyed having your scare reaction on video too 😆😆😆
Dad got me good on that one brother. He just can’t help himself. Most fun dude to work with on the planet 🤣
@@halheavyduty He's not a Dad unless he's pranking and giving it to his kids 😂😂
Hey Hal Heavy Machining Australia! Now that's what I'm torquing about! Ride ride ride!
🤘💯👊
Stuff my mechanic gutted out on my crank bolt 240ft lb, couldn't crack it, time for a new mechanic cheers great video. PS I wanted to grind off the marks when you zoomed in
Hahaha. Thankfully they all got ground nicely at the very end.
It’s a bloody difficult thing to watch… your finest work being mauled by a 50,000 ft pound maker breaker on the back of a rig 🤣
Heavy duty indeed, thanks. Luv the "shop dogs".
No shed is compete without a couple of furry friends
Just a video of you guys screwing around...😂
Great video! Quite interesting to see this kind of tooling.
Thanks Alan 👊
someone used this on my bike's cassette nut and I AM VERY VERY CROSS ABOUT IT!
🤣🤣🤣
matt, thats some awsome kit, love seeing it all start to come together!. i'm just amazed how small the drive pipe is compared to the drill!
Thanks brother. Yeah I know! It seems insane that a foot wide pipe can drive a 10 foot drill bit!
I roll threads on high pressure tubing used in the oil fields here in the US. This is a perfect example of why we roll threads and not cut them. Would you happen to know if they are rolled or cut? I would think they are rolled I’ve seen cut threads fail at less torque.
These ones are cut. Fingers crossed they hold up down the hole… otherwise you might get a message from me to find out more about rolling threads 🤣
@@halheavyduty LMT FETTE tools makes the rolling heads we use. They are based out of Germany and are quite expensive if you don’t have the costumer base and workflow for them. When you start getting into the 5-6in rolling heads they are about 80-100k usd. Rolling Dies are also a wear item and cost about 4K a set. If you deal in heavy industry and I see you do it’s usually pretty easy to sell big companies on rolled threads to prevent costly repairs. the company i work for A&A machine and fabrication based out of la marque texas can also work with you. we do lots of global work. cheers
@@halheavydutywhy aren’t they turned from an annealed “high” carbon alloy, then heat treated? Of course it is more expensive, but so is fishing for broken drill parts.
I've worked in the oilfield in louisiana Texas Pennsylvania north Dakota familiar with the concepts but I've always heard in multiple industry's that welds are stronger than the original material it's crazy that the welds won't hold up vs original material
It’s mind boggling. Yeah, the welds definitely won’t hold up - even with a crown attached.
They do alright for a few holes, but eventually fatigue due to the immense torque generated.
It’s mind boggling. Yeah, the welds definitely won’t hold up - even with a crown attached.
They do alright for a few holes, but eventually fatigue due to the immense torque generated.
@halheavyduty yeah that is pretty cool thanks
I saw when the "Old age and treachery" occurred.
10:40 at this point you have to wonder why you bothered with a decent surface finish beyond just making the outside concentric with the bore. 😔
I relate deeply to the Tibetan monks who make their finest work… and then let it blow with the wind 🤣
GREAT VID TA MATE
Cheers brother 👊
Insane numbers, thanks
Most welcome 👊
Thanks for throwing out the American size. I often find myself switching to a calculator to determine the size. 😂
Most welcome! 🇺🇸
Great video!
Can you make one showing the threading procedure?
Lastly; do those jaw marks cause a weak point in the pipe structure? Especially the ones where the jaw slips?
Thanks mate. Yes, we can do a vid on how we thread the rods. We are about to build an even bigger set… so I’ll make sure to include a full episode on it.
The walls of the rods were specifically over designed with 1/2” wall thickness, so those teeth marks won’t affect the strength needed to get the job done.
They look gnarly though 🤣
The torque ratings are insane Matt as well as you are! 🙂 Sorry buddy but couldn't pass up at a dig. Thank you sir.
Hahaha. It’s all pretty insane around here at the moment! Cheers Richard! Thanks for being part of it all mate
10:00 I was going to ask how you can even apply that much torque without the jaws slipping and turning into impromptu shaping tools. Guess that's that question answered.
It's hard at first to watch your finest work get mauled by the jaws of a rig... but you get used to it. Just the nature of the beast...
We ended up welding a block on the tooljoint to assist for the final 50-65k ft lb push. Even with the jaws full lock, it still slipped due to the immense torque.
Out of 30 rods, we've just about completed them. What a bloody mission. These rods are nuts... and sadly you simply can't buy them this big. They don't exist.
Looks like they're using 8-5/8" casing for drill rod with adapters instead of collars. Bakerlock, I've fixed many of items with that, including leaking aluminum boats! I miss the drilling and fishing tool business. Flournoy drilling USA and Wilson Downhole here. Bad ass stuff ya are doing! BTW, I bet the kelley hose on that's a biggun!
Close! The pipe is actually 10” (with a 1/2” wall thickness)
We had to custom design the threads because 8 5/8 wasn’t big enough for the volumes of cuttings that the 3m drill produces.
Yeah, Bakerlok is insane stuff. Once it cures… we’ve never seen a connection let go.
If you check out a video on the channel called “the big guns” we custom make the Kelley hose. It’s massive!
Thanks for tuning in brother - all the way from the USA 🇺🇸👊✌️
You need to get some thread compound and protectors on those completed joints ASAP - coz you what'll happen!!
It’s a tragedy. I make beautiful things and they go down holes and get destroyed.
I’m basically a grubby blue collar version of a Tibetan sand monk.
@@halheavyduty What about some copper plating or phosphating on those rotary connections. It helps to reduce galling during make up and break out, and can help the thread compound to better adhere. The old Drilco recipe of copper sulphate crystals dissolved in sulphuric acid with the resulting solution being applied to the connection instantly deposits a layer of copper that will do the job
In another application I saw a giant thermoplastic part between these tapered fittings. It was almost 5mm thick and had both the ID and OD taper. What would that be used for?
No idea. I wonder…?
With this one small trick, you too can increase the size and diameter of your rod!
God bless tool joints
Here I am accustomed to inch-ounce torque on 1/4” aero engine fasteners 😅
It’s wild how much variance there is in the machining space hey. From watchmaking to ocean liner drive shafts…
Matt, any vid that includes upcoming machinists and doggo's, is always gonna be the best.
The screwing up was quite interesting but I find your industry "bore-ing" LoL
Keep it up mate.👌👍👍
Cheers Ian! Yep… plenty more to come in upcoming vids. We’re having a blast with it all, and I really appreciate all the support.
That's some heavy duty screwing, blimey 😯
She DEFINITELY ain’t coming undone in a hurry
Good one Matt👍
Cheers my friend! Here since day 1 👊
thats the tool that Remington uses to torque their factory barrels haha
🤣🤣🤣
It was done very well
Thanks mate! 👊
Now that's a torque wrench.
Pretty sure it’s not coming undone in a hurry 🤣
Hah, yeah so true, if you make parts for aerospace you know they gonna last a long time usually but when you machine some stuff for drilling industry it's gonna be a consumable and they very soon need a few more of em.
Also i think that's the heaviest bit of screwing around on youtube i seen so far. ~88kN is no joke.
Thanks for uploading and excellent work!
Cheers mate! Yeah… when they told me the forces these tool joints had to endure… we had more than a few revisions of the design.
Every single one has held up so far. Fingers crossed the bit rig doesn’t just destroy them 🤣
We’re not far from finding out!
Can't wait to see DK60 get a hold of these
It’s gonna be ON like Donkey Kong!
What can I say? Just loved it!
Thanks Colin! Appreciate it mate 👊
To quote The Hyneman, "we're just going to blow it up, but do a good job anyway."
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Why can’t you spin weld the joint like they do semi truck axles?
Those welds seam to be good as primary unwelded metal.
Great question.
It’ll still crack them off after a few holes. The rotational stress forces generated by the drill bit are insane.
They won’t usually snap, but they crack and fatigues which then fails QC checks… and it’s very expensive.
We’ll see how these rods go.
Fingers crossed they hold up.
A good set of rods should be good for hundreds of holes
Very interesting!
Cheers mate
Cool vids!
Cheers mate
I guess 17-4ph h1150 for the material and a six full acme for the thread 🤔
Close! The thread is a custom 60 degree 3TPI thread.
Impresionante! 💪
Gracias hermano
Tad too big for current range of rotary friction welders, drill pipe 6 5/8 API super heavyweight is our standard fayre on a 2000 kN machine, but we have built bigger.
Regards from the UK.
Great machinery
Nice! We did look at friction welding, but couldn't find anything easily accessable that was big enough.
90,000 Nm … fieuw🎉
Pretty sure it’s not coming undone in a hurry 🤣
So each one of those sections of drill pipe are gonna be connected together to go down 820 feet or whatever it is how much directional or torsional twist is that much pipe gonna have so if you were to scratch a plum line down 800 foot pipehow much is the bottom going twist compared to the top?
So far the drillers have gotten all the big holes pretty damn close to plumb
25 x9m rods plus the drill head (approx 12m assembled)
There are three centralisers used every 8 rods to help as well.
Dogs, kids.....and 6 foot wide drill bits :)
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It’s ironic the bakelite adhesive you are using looks a lot like the “dope” or lubricant they use to keep the threads from seizing.
The irony wasn’t lost on me either…
The thread locker had a surprising ability to help it glide on, before locking it down like Fort Knox.
Amazing stuff.
Brilliant video Matt that glue is that
Kryptonian DNA & the other that was on a stick DOPE ? Big wheels Rollin ( Merle Haggard )
It’s funny. You need copper dope so it won’t lock up on the main threads… and the worlds craziest thread locker on the tool joint threads so the WONT LET GO hahahaha
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Not to mention one big ass chain wrench.
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How does this not crimp your tool joint? Wow.
We designed it with a 50mm thick wall… for that exact reason 🤣
It was a legit concern during the initial phase.
65,000 ft-lbs ??? Damn, that’s a really long cheater bar !!!🤣
It boggles the mind just how much pressure that thing generates
Torque…..the hold your significant other has over you.
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1. Is that a new lathe in the background?
2. Does the machinist in you wince when those jaws mark up your beautiful fine surface finish?
1) sure is. A little one to help speed up regular jobs.
2) Every. Single. Time.
You use SI dimensions but Imperial torque measurement? Is that common in Australia?
Very. We use a mix of both.
You legend. Love your dad scaring the sh1t out of you.
He’s a riot to work with. Never a dull moment in the shop
I knew a guy that tightened everything around the shop to 65,000 psi 😅😅😅😅
We’ve got one here too.
Mothers”&@&er drives me insane.
Can't wait to see this Beast running !
Makes two of us brother 👊
I would never imagine 65k ft lbs would be needed on anything. I wonder if there's anything that uses more?
It’s a truly insane amount of torque
The dog pooped - it says something
Clearly a good omen
How much do you stretch the head or threads at that pressure?
I’m not 100% sure, but as per most things drilling related, it’s massively over designed for shear tolerances.
There is a LOT of thread engagement happening with only the slightest taper.
We used a similar style with our current bit rig and it had roughly 1/3 of the engagement of those threads and never let go.
Mind you… it only did a 1.2m hole. In theory these should hold with plenty of margin for error.
That said… we are in very uncharted territory. Prayers will be said on the maiden voyage for sure.
65K ft lbs, damn.
Serious torque 💯
Never trust a man who doesn't love his dogs.
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We run 2 little guys, a CME 55 and a CME 75. The welder still says “how’d you break that?!”
That’s a good size rig bro. 12 tonnes of pullback is solid 👊
And it’s def got enough torque to make the welders to do a double take 🤣
Are any of these component pieces ever friction welded?
We have tried it, but it still doesn’t hold up as well as threaded joints. Crazy as it seems… welding just can’t handle the forces
That drill is going to alter the rotation of the Earth if it gets stuck
I’m genuinely surprised that the rig doesn’t start spinning when it gets bogged 🤣
Totally screwed up, in a good way 😂🤣😅🍻
Totally screwed 💯👊
Failure is an option...
Failure is a daily occurrence in our shop 🤣
Shit, how many foot pounds of torque would be required to shear off that connection?
I hope we don’t find out 🤣
Hey Matt, have you brought a 3rd CNC Lathe? I noticed there were 2 small ones in the background while you were doing the intro.
Well spotted Stu. Yeah we picked up a third little CNC to help speed things up. Going to fire it up next week.
Fingers crossed it works. We got it second hand sight unseen… but I’ve got a pretty good feeling about it.
I don’t think it’s actually done any work! A gamble… but it might just be a win
which collant(cutting) oilare you using
It’s called Holemaker by ITM. Great for 4140 steel, which is the majority of what we machine
Hi. Are the threaded ends tapered or is that just an optical illusion?
Look like it was tapered to me.
They’ve got a slight (1 degree) taper. Well spotted! 👊
@halheavyduty is that 1 degree per side or on diameter ?
I have machined connections with Parallel and Taper on the same thread......the lead on the parallel part of the thread is different to the lead on the tapered part.
you ever cross threaded one of these bad boys?
Yes. What a bloody nightmare 🤣
So.... cross threading any of these joints would be a rather large screw up I'm guessing.....
It’d be a nightmare. Fortunately we didn’t have a problem. Once they start, they seemed to screw up quite easily.
What's the tread pitch and depth to hold 65k?
4 tpi & 165mm of thread. They’ve all held up so far, but the ultimate test is once they go down the hole.
All uncharted territory… so prayers will be said. And a few fingers crossed 🤞
Check out Cutting Edge Engineering Australia. I think Kurtis is in the mining industry?
They’ve got awesome vids. He’s a great bloke too.
Cross threading must put a crimp on your day.....
We had one go south. Had to cut it off with the bloody oxy. Fun times
Why did you even do a finish pass if you're going to bite teeth into that surface like that haha
But as you said, these are basically consumables and you're only making it to last long enough to do the job.
I relate to those Tibetan monks that make beautiful sand artwork… just so it can be blown to the wind 🤣
How do I get a job there? I'm a mechanic by trade, getting bored of working on small stuff.
Where are you based mate?
@@halheavyduty Canberra.
Have you ever considered a fractal vice for grabbing the pipes? It would have to be a custom made jobby but it might be a good option for getting a nice reliable grip on the pipes.
I hadn’t even thought of it to be completely honest. Good suggestion though. We probably should have one in the shop
At about the 5:08-5:09 mark was where ya dad shared you
With that surface being chewed up like that then maybe you should consider also burnish the parts ( your petty much cold forming/pressing all the tiny peeks of your surface into the tiny valleys of the surface. Makeing and prettier. Harder and more corrosion resistant surface )
Dad just can’t help himself 🤣
He’s so much fun to work with. The hardest worker in the room and a great sense of humour…
We were going to nitride the tooljoints, but didn’t bother. Just too expensive.
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You wouldn’t want to cross thread one of those.
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