Yeah, so many missed passes that could’ve ended up in the back of the net, that missed punch leading to a corner, getting beaten at the near post again, not saving a ball shot straight at him
1 mistake xavi and flick both have made is as soon as we get a red card lewandoski needs to be subbed off and add in a player that can press the keeper and defenders
Eric wasn't forced to bring the attacker down. It was boneheaded on both parts. Eric shares just as much of the blame for getting himself sent off as MAtS does for putting him in that situation. It's the 10th minute - the game is not on the line at that point and it's not worth getting sent off to prevent Monaco from having a shot at going 1-0.
Exactly. Garcia is a red card collecting clown. Not nimble or quick enough and gets caught time and time again. Most honest barca fans know that ter stegen is not a trophy winning GK, just a nostalgia piece at this point who never has competition for goal.
Have you ever done something wrong or stupid IN THE HEAT OF THE MOMENT? MAYBE YOU ARE THE MOST LEVEL HEADED, EVEN KEEL PERSON. PLAYERS ARE LIKE ME.. THEY ARE MISTAKE PRONE BECAUSE THEY ARE HUMAN.
@@JavierDespo Oh for sure! I'm not really upset with either player to be honest as long as something is learned from it. People calling for MAtS to be benched or traded are wild to me though...who else are we going to put in net gents? He's still one of the best, even if he had a bad game. We should all just move on TBH and be happy the team performed to the level they did with 10 men for 80 minutes.
The good spin isthat we all forgot how Ter Stegen is not a big match player. Hansi knows, Germany knows, even Florentino knows, but we Barca fans forgot that we need a serious challenger at that position. Ter Stegen is not a knockout match keeper. Look at Raya! A Barcelona native. We need a keeper like that who can come in and take Ter Rible Stegen off his solo perch. Why is Garcia still here? We need to move on from these failed signings.
What really pisses me off about ter stegen is not really the mistakes but his casual demeanor and the the way he approaches everything. I understand he is like trying to be this stoic, cold headed leader but, to me, he is coming across as an "i dont give a fuck and lets just move on" type of a person and it doesnt really fit in this team where most of the others are really going all in.
Ter stegen has to be benched for the Villa game. There’s no more excuses. One mistake is understandable, but a whole game of mistakes and looking shakey! He’s the captain of BARCA and he can’t even admit he’s to blame and apologize. I remember when Pique said he’d move on for the young blood to show their talents. Marc on the other hand just crumbles under the UCL lights.
@@rccrforeverfrrdfortuneshav9823 true, but there are not many goalkeepers available in the market who is a better fit in Barcelona than ter Stagen. And you can't gamble on goalkeepers like you can with attacking players.
@@nil_90 there you guys go with not better than terstergen bs.. he has been making errors since the Roma UCL season.. been forgiving and swept under the carpet due to this same excuse. 7straight seasons. At some point we have to admit that there are other keepers out there. He couldn’t even displace a weakened neuer from his spot as German no 1. And his reign won’t last longer than anything. I promise you. A young lamasia gk will do. Las Palmas Gk from last season, Alvaro Valles would have been amazing. I don’t know where he is. Valencia gk mama was in the market. He is not good with his feet yet but he is 23, a giant at 6 5’ and makes incredible saves like cortouis.. he’s been doing well with his team with how poor they are, imagine him at our back line.. Performed well in euros.. Dortmund’s koebel too. Please let’s stop the delusions. Terstergen has not been good since our last UCL win in 2015 when he was fighting with Bravo for his spot. Man has gotten too comfortable and inaki Peña is not the answer.
Lewandowski is great good player but age is the setback. During his prime time in Bayern Munich, he was dangerous. Maybe you should watch video of Barcelona loss to Bayern Munich in 2020 UCL,where we lost 8-2.
Good discussion Dan .To blame Ter Stegen only for our loss is funny. What did the others do? The team had an off day . Flick was clueless yesterday and he admitted it at the post match interview. He said Monaco was fast( everyone should watch it). The high line is risky and to continue to play it in such a situation is interesting. Dan your friend The Purist analyzed Flick months earlier on your channel. Go and look at Flick's Bayern they scored many goals but also conceded many so MATS will take in many this year so y'all calm down 😂. A coach has already found an antidote to his tactics😮. Flick is no superman he is the victim of his success- now people believe he can't lose a game😂We will win many many games but also lose some too. We lost the fight not the war. Visca Barca.
The last time I remember ter stegen being this bad was against Man utd in europa league clash. The guy gave a goal against Rashford from an angle that most keepers find hard to concede against
I completely disagree that Flick could not have planned for a red card. As a coach, you have to prepare every match for that possibility. Now it could be that he decided not to change at the moment and just have Pedri drop from AM down to pivot with Casadó. That would leave 3 FW on the pitch to score an equalizer at least. However, after Yamal's golazo or even at half time, Flick definitely should have taken a FW off for a AM/CM.
After thinking about it for awhile here’s what I think about the Ter Stegen situation. 1. Ter Stegen 100% had other options and somehow went for the worst one. The only defense if any that can be given is that everyone’s been spoiled by Busquets since surely Busquets makes the pass work out. Still though unnecessarily risky and not worth it even if prime Busquets was there. 2. More from my initial point, Eric is not Busquets let alone a DM. I personally feel that starting Garcia might’ve not been the best move and whether I’m right or wrong we never will know because of that mistake by Ter Stegen. 3. I always gave credit to Ter Stegen for being good with the ball on his feet and would defend him when I feel he was treated harshly but I think his time has come. I believe that he no longer has that winning mentality that we need and leaving would probably be best. No matter what he’s going to be under massive pressure because of his past and that doesn’t help the team either.
Now this is a good measured analysis. Some of these other Barca TH-camrs are really critical of everything Barca. It’s impossible to judge them on this game. Judge Ter stegen…..
Tbh once second half was about to start i was hoping raphinha and lewandowski would be subbed off. Throw on pau victor, ferran since they press well. I wanted more pressing the entire time after the struggling
I think a better question would be when's the last time Ter Stegen didn't make a mistake in a UCL match. We've been axing players since 2018 why haven't we axed the root of all problems which is Ter Stegen? I've never seen him do a half decent save on a near post attempt.
Do we need a top class goalkeeper who can play all the cup competitions including the champions league just like the 2014/15 season when Ter Stegen played all the cup games and Bravo the league games?
eric garcia doesn't have enough poise on the ball to be a cdm like that and martinez knows that he doesn't have the make up speed so he plays back and that's how he got burned on the second goal.
Nobody mentions the goalkeeper coach kept his job after Xavi and is still there. It's no coincidence that Pena has already shown us he is just as incompetent as Ter Statue. Common denominator= Same goalkeeper coach🤷
Yes, it was a bad pass by MATS and Eric should not have brought Minamino down, but honestly, the red card happened because Flick made a tactical mistake. Eric is not ready for UCL as a pivot because he has had very few minutes playing that position. Ferran should have started on the left, Raphinha in the middle, and Pedri/Casado as the double pivot. Eric misread what MATS needed and made an extremely weird move away from the middle that none of the other midfielders would have made.
Ferran should have started? Is the gap between Raphinha and Ferran not too clear for all eyes to see? Eric acted instinctively. It was not his fault. Blaming the coach and Eric is simply looking to divert the blame.
@@sirh.caesar4890 That is how they started the season before Olmo got there. Eric doesn't even have 90 minutes this season playing as a pivot. He maybe has a few hundred minutes in his entire professional career at this position. He hasn't even started this season. It was too much too soon for Eric. We also have another game in a few days that Ferran cannot play in because of the red.
In the second half we settled into a mid to low block, a 4-4-1 sort of. I think that really worked, we kept them out and had a threat on the counter with Lamine and Raphinha. But then we started pressing again and playing a high line, and not too long after, the goal happened. This, and not subbing off Lewandowski earlier were my 2 issues with Flick. That being said, I don’t think this is the end of the world. The way we reacted gives me hope going forward
@@MatthewDLee09 Who starts a game depends on many factors but mostly the most decisive factor is always how well a player adapted in training to tweaks to the tactics and system customized for a particular game. Or you think it is the same tactical instructions every game? Or you think they just call it training for fun? Not all players can grasp tactical tweaks and instructions fast within short spaces of time, meanwhile there must be tweaks because not all teams play the same way or use the same formation, tactics, systems and sub-systems. The cognitive part of the sport must be appreciated as well as the physical. Just like in real life classrooms, some are more intelligent. So, yes, Eric has not been given many starts this season but that does not mean that he was not qualified to start this one -- after all he was a regular for Girona last season -- nor does it mean that this loss was his fault. Ter Stegen passed to him under pressure and he wasn't even the free man. He sensed Stegen could make that pass but he was hoping Stegen would take the safer option of passing the ball to free Kounde. Ter Stegen did the same risky pass thing to Casado shortly after. Ter Stegen was shaky and was not focused during the early start and I guess that was PTSD from the loss Barca suffered during the Joan Gamper match. Clearly Eric should have let Akliouche score but his reaction was out of reflex and it happens a lot.
@@JavierDespo Who should he have brought in for Lewandosky? Ferran? Average, we all know it. He would probably need four chances to bury one. We won't get four chances consistently. Ansu Fati? You want them to send him back to the treatment table? That was too physical a match to put him under that kind of pressure giving the fact that he was just returning into the team dynamics. Pau Victor? You can tell from his minutes against Girona that his inexperience will frustrate the rest. He would miss our luckily created chances. So while Lewandosky has lost pace, he offers other essential things that we couldn't get off the bench on that faithful night. The subs that came in were brought in late for experience sake.
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I think a 3 for Ter Stagen is generous he didn’t just have 1 or 2 moments where he messed up he had many through out the game
Yeah, so many missed passes that could’ve ended up in the back of the net, that missed punch leading to a corner, getting beaten at the near post again, not saving a ball shot straight at him
There was a match last year when Ter stegen was trying to curve ball over the attacker and instead it went backwards and a goal got scored against us.
Against Valencia at home
1 mistake xavi and flick both have made is as soon as we get a red card lewandoski needs to be subbed off and add in a player that can press the keeper and defenders
Eric wasn't forced to bring the attacker down. It was boneheaded on both parts. Eric shares just as much of the blame for getting himself sent off as MAtS does for putting him in that situation. It's the 10th minute - the game is not on the line at that point and it's not worth getting sent off to prevent Monaco from having a shot at going 1-0.
Exactly. Garcia is a red card collecting clown. Not nimble or quick enough and gets caught time and time again. Most honest barca fans know that ter stegen is not a trophy winning GK, just a nostalgia piece at this point who never has competition for goal.
Have you ever done something wrong or stupid IN THE HEAT OF THE MOMENT? MAYBE YOU ARE THE MOST LEVEL HEADED, EVEN KEEL PERSON. PLAYERS ARE LIKE ME.. THEY ARE MISTAKE PRONE BECAUSE THEY ARE HUMAN.
to be fair to him, it was a split decision. I’ve played football, and it’s really the first instinct
@@JavierDespo Oh for sure! I'm not really upset with either player to be honest as long as something is learned from it. People calling for MAtS to be benched or traded are wild to me though...who else are we going to put in net gents? He's still one of the best, even if he had a bad game. We should all just move on TBH and be happy the team performed to the level they did with 10 men for 80 minutes.
@@poodapoorc I would have taken Raya, but Arteta has the co ho nayz to say there will be competition at this position.. I would even take Lunen.
The good spin isthat we all forgot how Ter Stegen is not a big match player. Hansi knows, Germany knows, even Florentino knows, but we Barca fans forgot that we need a serious challenger at that position. Ter Stegen is not a knockout match keeper. Look at Raya! A Barcelona native. We need a keeper like that who can come in and take Ter Rible Stegen off his solo perch. Why is Garcia still here? We need to move on from these failed signings.
Garcia is a good squad player who came for free. DM is not his position, so he should not be blamed. I agree with the ter Stagen part.
What really pisses me off about ter stegen is not really the mistakes but his casual demeanor and the the way he approaches everything. I understand he is like trying to be this stoic, cold headed leader but, to me, he is coming across as an "i dont give a fuck and lets just move on" type of a person and it doesnt really fit in this team where most of the others are really going all in.
As a captain he feels so disconnected from the team. His attitude is just opposite to the direction the team is travelling.
@@thalpha___ facts
What he supposed to do ? Just dive all over wildly ? It is what it is . Others would also make mistakes .
I'm surprised you came up with 5 headlines
so hard to take Anything from this game
Ter stegen has to be benched for the Villa game. There’s no more excuses. One mistake is understandable, but a whole game of mistakes and looking shakey! He’s the captain of BARCA and he can’t even admit he’s to blame and apologize. I remember when Pique said he’d move on for the young blood to show their talents. Marc on the other hand just crumbles under the UCL lights.
Benched for who? THEY ALL ARE TRASH.
There is no better goalkeeper in the team.
@@nil_90 we should have prioritized a new GK during the summer..
@@rccrforeverfrrdfortuneshav9823 true, but there are not many goalkeepers available in the market who is a better fit in Barcelona than ter Stagen. And you can't gamble on goalkeepers like you can with attacking players.
@@nil_90 there you guys go with not better than terstergen bs.. he has been making errors since the Roma UCL season.. been forgiving and swept under the carpet due to this same excuse. 7straight seasons. At some point we have to admit that there are other keepers out there. He couldn’t even displace a weakened neuer from his spot as German no 1. And his reign won’t last longer than anything. I promise you. A young lamasia gk will do. Las Palmas Gk from last season, Alvaro Valles would have been amazing. I don’t know where he is. Valencia gk mama was in the market. He is not good with his feet yet but he is 23, a giant at 6 5’ and makes incredible saves like cortouis.. he’s been doing well with his team with how poor they are, imagine him at our back line.. Performed well in euros.. Dortmund’s koebel too. Please let’s stop the delusions. Terstergen has not been good since our last UCL win in 2015 when he was fighting with Bravo for his spot. Man has gotten too comfortable and inaki Peña is not the answer.
Lewa another CL ghost, and with 10 players what was Flick thinking keeping him in. Brought nothing.
Lewandowski is great good player but age is the setback. During his prime time in Bayern Munich, he was dangerous. Maybe you should watch video of Barcelona loss to Bayern Munich in 2020 UCL,where we lost 8-2.
@@williamkgasi6258 That was about 5 years ago, try to focus on the present.
Good discussion Dan .To blame Ter Stegen only for our loss is funny. What did the others do? The team had an off day . Flick was clueless yesterday and he admitted it at the post match interview. He said Monaco was fast( everyone should watch it). The high line is risky and to continue to play it in such a situation is interesting. Dan your friend The Purist analyzed Flick months earlier on your channel. Go and look at Flick's Bayern they scored many goals but also conceded many so MATS will take in many this year so y'all calm down 😂. A coach has already found an antidote to his tactics😮. Flick is no superman he is the victim of his success- now people believe he can't lose a game😂We will win many many games but also lose some too. We lost the fight not the war. Visca Barca.
The last time I remember ter stegen being this bad was against Man utd in europa league clash. The guy gave a goal against Rashford from an angle that most keepers find hard to concede against
I completely disagree that Flick could not have planned for a red card. As a coach, you have to prepare every match for that possibility.
Now it could be that he decided not to change at the moment and just have Pedri drop from AM down to pivot with Casadó. That would leave 3 FW on the pitch to score an equalizer at least.
However, after Yamal's golazo or even at half time, Flick definitely should have taken a FW off for a AM/CM.
You are right bro
Yesterday felt like Xavi towards the end when Christensen was our pivot. Why not play with pedri n casado as the 2 pivot and torre as the ten?
After thinking about it for awhile here’s what I think about the Ter Stegen situation.
1. Ter Stegen 100% had other options and somehow went for the worst one. The only defense if any that can be given is that everyone’s been spoiled by Busquets since surely Busquets makes the pass work out. Still though unnecessarily risky and not worth it even if prime Busquets was there.
2. More from my initial point, Eric is not Busquets let alone a DM. I personally feel that starting Garcia might’ve not been the best move and whether I’m right or wrong we never will know because of that mistake by Ter Stegen.
3. I always gave credit to Ter Stegen for being good with the ball on his feet and would defend him when I feel he was treated harshly but I think his time has come. I believe that he no longer has that winning mentality that we need and leaving would probably be best. No matter what he’s going to be under massive pressure because of his past and that doesn’t help the team either.
Now this is a good measured analysis. Some of these other Barca TH-camrs are really critical of everything Barca. It’s impossible to judge them on this game. Judge Ter stegen…..
Tbh once second half was about to start i was hoping raphinha and lewandowski would be subbed off. Throw on pau victor, ferran since they press well. I wanted more pressing the entire time after the struggling
I think a better question would be when's the last time Ter Stegen didn't make a mistake in a UCL match. We've been axing players since 2018 why haven't we axed the root of all problems which is Ter Stegen? I've never seen him do a half decent save on a near post attempt.
Someone said MAT Stegen had 85 CL appearances in which he conceded 99 goals. is that correct?
Sorry. Reading this question after his recent and unfortunate major injury, it appears cynical and it wasn't meant to be.
Do we need a top class goalkeeper who can play all the cup competitions including the champions league just like the 2014/15 season when Ter Stegen played all the cup games and Bravo the league games?
Although barca loss yesterday but the striker's could have do much better expecially raphina
eric garcia doesn't have enough poise on the ball to be a cdm like that and martinez knows that he doesn't have the make up speed so he plays back and that's how he got burned on the second goal.
Ter Stegen is a clown
He deserves a 0!!!!
Why is Pau Prim not getting a chance in the 1st team.
Nobody mentions the goalkeeper coach kept his job after Xavi and is still there. It's no coincidence that Pena has already shown us he is just as incompetent as Ter Statue. Common denominator= Same goalkeeper coach🤷
Yes, it was a bad pass by MATS and Eric should not have brought Minamino down, but honestly, the red card happened because Flick made a tactical mistake. Eric is not ready for UCL as a pivot because he has had very few minutes playing that position. Ferran should have started on the left, Raphinha in the middle, and Pedri/Casado as the double pivot. Eric misread what MATS needed and made an extremely weird move away from the middle that none of the other midfielders would have made.
Ferran should have started? Is the gap between Raphinha and Ferran not too clear for all eyes to see?
Eric acted instinctively. It was not his fault. Blaming the coach and Eric is simply looking to divert the blame.
@@sirh.caesar4890 That is how they started the season before Olmo got there. Eric doesn't even have 90 minutes this season playing as a pivot. He maybe has a few hundred minutes in his entire professional career at this position. He hasn't even started this season. It was too much too soon for Eric. We also have another game in a few days that Ferran cannot play in because of the red.
In the second half we settled into a mid to low block, a 4-4-1 sort of. I think that really worked, we kept them out and had a threat on the counter with Lamine and Raphinha. But then we started pressing again and playing a high line, and not too long after, the goal happened. This, and not subbing off Lewandowski earlier were my 2 issues with Flick. That being said, I don’t think this is the end of the world. The way we reacted gives me hope going forward
@@MatthewDLee09
Who starts a game depends on many factors but mostly the most decisive factor is always how well a player adapted in training to tweaks to the tactics and system customized for a particular game. Or you think it is the same tactical instructions every game? Or you think they just call it training for fun?
Not all players can grasp tactical tweaks and instructions fast within short spaces of time, meanwhile there must be tweaks because not all teams play the same way or use the same formation, tactics, systems and sub-systems. The cognitive part of the sport must be appreciated as well as the physical. Just like in real life classrooms, some are more intelligent.
So, yes, Eric has not been given many starts this season but that does not mean that he was not qualified to start this one -- after all he was a regular for Girona last season -- nor does it mean that this loss was his fault. Ter Stegen passed to him under pressure and he wasn't even the free man. He sensed Stegen could make that pass but he was hoping Stegen would take the safer option of passing the ball to free Kounde. Ter Stegen did the same risky pass thing to Casado shortly after. Ter Stegen was shaky and was not focused during the early start and I guess that was PTSD from the loss Barca suffered during the Joan Gamper match. Clearly Eric should have let Akliouche score but his reaction was out of reflex and it happens a lot.
@@JavierDespo Who should he have brought in for Lewandosky? Ferran? Average, we all know it. He would probably need four chances to bury one. We won't get four chances consistently.
Ansu Fati? You want them to send him back to the treatment table? That was too physical a match to put him under that kind of pressure giving the fact that he was just returning into the team dynamics.
Pau Victor? You can tell from his minutes against Girona that his inexperience will frustrate the rest. He would miss our luckily created chances.
So while Lewandosky has lost pace, he offers other essential things that we couldn't get off the bench on that faithful night.
The subs that came in were brought in late for experience sake.