Film Photography - Velvia v Ektar for Landscapes
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 20 ส.ค. 2024
- On a late Summer trip to photograph the vibrant heather I was undecided on which colour film to take. I wanted vivid colour but also knew that the bright light would present challenges so in the end I packed Velvia and Ektar, possibly the best of both worlds.
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Steve O'Nions. The only man in Britain looking leaner and fitter _after_ lockdown.
And meaner 😀
The Ektar is more "correct" but personally I absolutely love the colours of Velvia. More dreamy.
My left ear feels so lonely
@ki0ng Yeah must've been a mono mic not downmixed with some random noise mixed in
Normally I like Ektar but in this instance I preferred the results that the Velvia gave.
I'm kinda split. I love the color contrast of Velvia, but Ektar had less weird looking color cast in the clouds. The clouds looked fairly white balanced in Ektar.
Somehow I like the Ektar photographs more. It is personal taste. The composition are great as always.
I've noticed the Velvia gave the clouded sky a blue cast where Ektar left the sky more natural
It certainly does.
Say what you want, film will always beat digital any day, awesome video!
I like the natural colours Ektar renders... the greens, reds and blues.
lovely results with Velvia
The warmth of the Ektar suited the late summer moorland scenes better - it has more fealty to reality - except in the last one; the echoing of the purple hues in the clouds is simply beautiful, the truth be damned!
Absolutely Brett 😀
I agree with that. The Velvia reaches more strongly into the paint pot; you have to like its strong, sometimes a little unnatural colors. But in between and depending on the object, it's very nice.
I’ve always had a love hate relationship with it, I prefer it when the weather is moody and it adds that lovely purple glow to everything.
really making me want to get some filters. they are so underrated. great images 😊
The secret to using filters is to use them sparingly. Only and only when 110% necessary otherwise, it will be the 1970s all over again.
yeah.... im not sure about filters. i shoot with tri-x only mind you, but i've never found any situation where a filter would improve the composition. if the light is really that harsh, i would just recompose or come back at a different time.
@@matteovrizzi thanks TriX, then, and it's gigantic latitude and discriminative spectrometric curve. Not the same with other films.
@@matteovrizzi A correctly selected filter and the correct exposure improve every image.
@@charlywedl5544 agree about exposure
After the sun set, the velvia had the clear advantage. Great shot.
Definitely 👍
You should try Velvia with an 81B filter. It will help warm up the blue cast during overcast and sunny days. Also removes some of the magenta cast.
I used to use warmup filters Ryan but I can easily tweek in post too.
I am going with the warmer tones of the Ektar. The Velvia had a cooler look and my taste prefer the warmer look for the scenes. Thanks for sharing
The first Velvia and next to last Ektar photos made my knees knock. Absolutely wonderful.
these photos are absolutely gorgeous!!!
The Velvia is too purple for me. I prefer the images made on Ektar. Shame you didn’t capture the rainbow. Always enjoy watching your videos.
Thank you 😊
used to shoot nothing but Velvia in my ETRS many years ago...lovely results
Great video as always I think all the photos are great
I honestly thought at the start of the video I would prefer the Velvia shots, at the conclusion I preferred the Ektar. Loved the golden yellows in the grassy areas. Great shots as usual.
It’s 50/5 for me a lot of the time, Velvia looks fantastic for the right subject but Ektar is definitely more flexible.
great video , great photography , torn between the 2 ... no winners for me all equally beautiful
Same for me Gaius, no real winner.
Beautiful shots to end the summer! I think I prefer the look of velvia here. I'm getting excited for the colours of autumn, which are always nice to photograph, and I think Ektar's warmth would suit them well. Love your videos and always look forward to seeing your pictures.
Definitely getting ready for Ektar now 🙂
Great pictures! Personally my preference goes to Velvia.
That second shot is a beaut... on both films.👌👌
Velvia... still king of the landscapes. Nice video - useful for folk learning the differences. I just wish Velvia wasn't so dam expensive!
Thanks Ted 👍
Thanks for the video Steve. I prefer the Ektar in this scenario.
Good comparison of film. For my taste i like the Ektar more. Not too blueish Haze and clouds.
But in bluehour the time for the Velvia comes…
Beautiful...interesting to see the comparison. I liked all the Velvia best except for the last one. I enjoy the results I get with Velvia but it is a challenge. I'll have to give the Ektar a go. I use a Mamiya 7ii which I love but I'm lusting after something with a removable back
Two Mamiya 7’s required 🙂
Most excellent...really liked the music...
Thank you, sir!
Thanks Tom.
Lovely images Steve, but the magenta cast on the Velvia is a bit much for me.
It is certainly vivid Jules and I could easily have toned it down but the colours are ‘as is’ from the scanner so I left them that way for the comparison 🙂
@@SteveONions Yes I get that, of course. It must be tricky treading a line that will generally meet with approval, and these days there are the "to PP or not to PP" camps. I fall firmly in the former, as I see every image as a start point in a process to produce "my" image. I would love to see the Velvia image colour-corrected and processed to your taste, as I think it would be a stunner. Cheers from the Antipodes.
Really interesting. By day, I think I prefer the Ektar. The late shots definitely look best on Velvia, IMHO.
Thanks James.
Great video and spectacular examples of Velvia and Ektar side by side. Very helpful and fun to watch!
Lovely photos. I find in most cases I prefer the Ektar. There seems to be more separation.
Beautiful photographs regardless of the film used. Ektar on my monitor first appears to be a more neutral emulsion, with vastly superior dynamic range perhaps, but on second inspection it exhibits a yellow tinge. This is apparent on the rocks and the foliage. Velvia, well it is always Velvia, unreal but beautiful with wonderful hues of blue and magenta and saturated greens.
I’m torn between the two, both have their virtues but neither is what I’d called accurate. Provia and Portra would be a better match for ‘reality’.
@@SteveONions Use the one that makes you feel the scene. That is what Adams said BTW not me, " Don't photograph how it looks, photograph how it feels ". Looking forward to the result of using your new toy. I used my Franka Solida IIIe last Sunday in a walk about in Salford Quays, nothing serious though, and the results were surprisingly good.
The ND grad certainly cools the Velvia sky Steve. Never thought I would think about using a warm up filter with Velvia! The Ektar looks quite impressive though. Quite looking forward to developing my first batch.
Cheers
Diz
Hope they come out well Diz, always that moment of anticipation (and dread) as you unload the reel 🙂
I really have a love for Ektar :-) I so lobe that film :-)
Brilliant, as ever. I adore EKtar but Velvia.....swooon
Three cheers for the Pet Shop Boys. Nice to see >20k subscribers too.
Thanks Thomas 😊
A lovely way to wind down my evening. I prefer the Ektar photos best. The heather in my back garden is very vibrant now. I remember sitting in lessons every September at school and longed to be up the mountain. From my desk I could see how the heather had turned the mountain a beautiful maroon colour.
It’s extremely good this year Simon, the last few years have been very disappointing.
Steve O'Nions I did a watercolour painting back in May of the mountains in the Lake District and I painted them with a tinge of red. It was very therapeutic during those dark days/very sunny days of the lockdown. My Nikon kit is almost there. I’ve got a Tokina 17mm, 28mm Nikkor, a 50mm E series from my old EM and a 35-70 Nikon zoom. A good 50mm Nikkor will be my last purchase. Just got a new rubber eyecup for the FM today. Dev tanks will be a birthday present soon to develop my B&W films and I have a great film lab here in Bristol. Unfortunately our Fuji lab sold its film processor years ago. I was so tempted to buy it. Wish I had. I can scan the films at work and print them. I’m eager to try some Cinestill 50mASA. As I’ve said before I’ve always wanted to own a fully manual Nikon system. Now I do. The FM is just so wonderful to use. Total control on my part. My Nikon’s will be with me for life. I just hope film keeps going as long as possible. It’s certainly gained in popularity amongst the younger photographer just as vinyl records have made a come back.
I think that the Ektar gave a more natural rendition. Velvia often gives one over saturated greens and tends toward magenta. I can see the magenta trend in the skies of the velvia photos. However, it works particularly well in this case. Thanks that was enjoyable.
The Velvia bias towards purple can really work with the heather but at times it is a bit clownish - it’s a love hate relationship for me.
Absolutely beautiful images Steve. Know very little about film photography but love watching you craft your images. I have taught myself photography since retirement over the last 2/3 years, largely by watching videos like yours and Robin's. I (and my wife) use Panasonic micro four thirds cameras-G9 mostly. Would like to see you do a similar video with comparison between micro four thirds and film. If I was younger might be tempted to take up another challenge with film but at the moment I'm out in West Cornwall most days and still learning. Thanks for your efforts.
Thanks Peter. A comparison between the G9 and film would be fun and I did try it once but failed in the execution.
Film is fun and easy but then again I was doing at lot of it when I was young in the 80’s so it has become 2nd nature.
All the best - Steve.
What an interesting comparison!
In almost all the images the heather looked best with the Velvia to my eye; the stones were back and forth, and most of the time the sky looked better to me with Ektar - but not always! Fascinating to see them transitioned like that - very instructive. Cheers!
Thanks Robert, each has their pros and cons with Ektar being more natural and Velvia being more dramatic.
Ektar all the way for me.
Wow, thank you for doing this! Fascinating to see how these films vary across the different scenes. Very helpful!
Really appreciate your videos...very inspiring and your topics completely match my interests!
Your choice of music is outstanding as well...adds to the mystique of your subjects.
Thanks Tom. Choosing the music is the best part of making the videos 🙂
What gorgeous scenery! And a very informative lecture on the differences between the formats of films. Can’t decide which I like best. All the images are just sublime... thanks and good day.
I’m the same - no clear winner, it’s the scenery that comes out on top for me 🙂
Beautiful examples of velvia Steve!
Thanks Stephen.
Great to see you back again Steve. As always à beautifully executed vlog. Looking forward to your next offering. Stay safe.
Thanks Phillip 👍
I have been prefering Ektar the whole video but last one on Velvia wins! :)
Another fantastic video from Steve O'Nions! Incredible images - all keepers and winners! Great work there, Steve.
Thanks Joe 🙂
My years of experience with the Fujichrome films is that they have a magenta cast when under exposed. In landscapes such as this, it will be difficult to get both earth and sky in a single Velvia shot without a graduated filter--something I never seem to have in the bag when I need one.
When shooting slide film in high contrast scenes such as this, I mostly dial in a +2.0 compensation on the meter and then spot for the brightest highlights _where I want to retain detail_ (clouds, whitecaps, white sand, etc.). This pins the upper end of the exposure to those highlights and allows the shadow areas to fall wherever they will. Still, it's sometimes hard to get the limited dynamic range of slide film suitably positioned within the larger dynamic range of the scene.
But your video has encouraged me to try Ektar since it has greater dynamic range and can supposedly handle over exposure with grace. I assume one would set their meter composition to, say, -2.0 and then spot for the shadow areas, allowing the highlights to go where they may. My last experience with C-41 film was in the form of Kodak disposable cameras, from back in the 1980s, purchased at the last minute before going on vacation.
It’s well worth trying Ektar although I’ve had a bit of a love-hate relationship with it. I do t like the way it handles sky colours and prefer it with warmer subjects.
Beautiful images! With the sun up I'd say that the Ektar was a tad warmer and had bolder yellows, but after the sun went down then the Ektar "cooled" more than the Velvia. But either shots were great -- the purple of the heather was awesome! Thank you for sharing!
Thanks Aengus.
Great shots. I love Ektar so much, but both look good.
Not sure why TH-cam just recommended your channel! Thoroughly enjoyed your videos! Love the way you edit your film images. I haven’t had the time to go through all your videos but would much appreciate if you could point me to your videos about the way you edit (if you have made one on that. ). Great work and one of the best channel on film photography for sure !
Glad you liked the video Edward. I don’t have a specific video on editing but sometime feature small sections if it is relevant.
Steve
Informative and o well done as always. Loved the photographs. I've been mainly shooting Ektar and Protra and now will be giving Velvia a visit after so many decades.
Choice is good Peter, whilst not usually a Velvia fan it can work well at times.
Beautiful and very interesting, i love watching your videos 👍
Your videos are still a pleasure, someday I will be there "life".
Lovely!
I began shooting slide film this summer, in my Olympus OM-1 and Bronica S2A, with a handheld spotmeter.
I've never learned so much in such a short time before. It is wonderful to be restricted by 3 or 4 stops of range and very rewarding to see it turn relative flatness to life much like the eye can.
Limitations can be a huge benefit to our photography Steffen.
great video Steve, very handy to seen the direct comparisons between two great films I've just ordered Ektar 100 in 10x8 to cut down for my 5x7 camera for a waterfall trip in Yorkshire very helpful thanks Roy Connolly
Good luck with the 5x7 shoot Roy, you’ve really got limited film options with that format (which is a shame because it could be the ideal large format system, perfect aspect ratio).
hi Steve I also have a DAYI 6X17 back I've had for a few years now that gives me all the 120 film, works great no light leaks tricky loading so I use a slip of paper to go around the film when loading the brass screws came loose so i Loctite them , thanks Steve
Really excellent shots in this video, especially the first few.
Great video! Thinking of getting another film back for my Bronica so I can switch films out too. Having never shot Velvia it'd be good to be able to swap out for a colour negative just to be assured.
It’s a great way to check the differences, no other way to get a true comparison.
Great video Steve as always . Thank you for sharing ! Generally Velvia have more attractive looks but I really like second shot on Ektar 👍
They are both winners John 👍
This channel is amazing, answers all the questions I've had. Thank you for creating this.
Thanks Alex.
I can't understand how you remain so calm in the presence of such beauty! I would need a therapist to help me cope! Awesome images!
Great video and great shots, can't beat the colors of velvia. Recently purchased a Bronica ETRSi kit, since you've always spoken highly of your Bronica gear and I thought the compact size of the 6x45 would be conducive to my hiking. Only one back though, need to acquire another so I have the option to swap films in the field like this.
Get another back (or three) 😀
Really enjoyed seeing the comparison of the two films!
I like the Ektar images best. Velvia is just to much for me, it gives me a bubble gum feeling. Nice and intersting video.
man they look amazing. will defiantly be giving film a go
Great video, Steve. Everyone seems to lump these films together because they're both super saturated. However, as this video so excellently shows, they really are completely different from one another. Velvia can be so tricky to use because it's easy for it to go over the top and look kind of cartoonish. In the subtle light that it likes, though, it's nothing short of spectacular. Ektar definitely likes brighter/more contrasty light more but the color palette is very different. Sometimes that's great but I've never really liked Ektar's rendition of blue skies, though. They always look a little too cyan to me.
Very enjoyable video and wonderful results. Thanks for sharing!
I agree Christopher, Velvia needs to be kept back for dull conditions and low light with Ektar brought out in full sunlight. I don’t care for Ektar’s cyan skies at all and find Potra better in many cases.
Great comparison Steve...Enjoyed it.TY!
Thank you 🙂
Good comparison, but I do not know what is better, both films show excellent results!
If you could show in more detail how to deal with exposure measurement, it would be super.
No winners for me, each has strengths and weaknesses which is what makes film photography so engrossing.
That's a really wonderful place, Steve! Also', lots of love for the 80mm for landscape, I think that's my favourite Zenzanon together with the 250
I do like the 250mm also Fabrizio, it will make another appearance in a future seascape video.
Out of the two. I really liked the Velvia.
Thank you a great video. I like thst gritstone egde, I have been there several times.
A very productive location Richard.
For me personally, Ektar was a very strange film from a beginning. I haven't any idea what I could shot with it. It is too contrast with a low dynamic range. If I needed a soft picture I used Portra (+100% to it's price during 5 years damned)
Ektar is tricky but sometimes it can shine.
An interesting comparison - I used to really like Velvia as a slide film and rarely used print material but in a couple of your shots I prefer the Ektar rendition. The heather looks really good down there at Burbage. Thanks for these images.
It was a close one Keith, some shots work better in Ektar and visa versa - no outright winner for me.
Thought you were soundless for a minute; I'm deaf in my right ear and no sound coming through in the left side of my headphone. Finally, I thought to switch the phones around, voila, sound! I definitely liked Ektar on this outing, except for that last image, I liked the Velvia better on it. Wonder how Portra would have worked.
I need to check the sound next time Steve!
Lovely shots! You’ve reminded me that I REALLY need to use my graduated and ND filters more... something’s got to tame that Texas sun! (Yes, sometimes I want it for effect, but not every time.)
They are pretty much essential with slide films shot in daylight Laura, what surprised me was how well they worked with Ektar too.
I just got back from a trip to Utah where I shot both ektar and velvia, just waiting on the velvia. The ektar seems to be a little muddy and hard to edit I think because of the low dynamic range many of the scenes had. Kind of a fitting video! Also great photos
Thanks Nick. It’s sometimes not possible to determine which film will give the best result, having a choice is good.
If your gonna shoot color then velvia can't be beat. Ektar is similar to a raw digital file that still needs some work. Great images.
I like them both. The velvia really accents the darker portions of the clouds. I think the Velvia muddied up a little on the second to last shot @10:07
It’s definitely not a clear cut result, both have their strengths John.
For midges I recommend Avon's original Skin So Soft. It's worked wonders for me this summer. I got home looking like a dot to dot one evening without it, not a single bite next time when I did use it.
I really need some of that stuff, the deet version really stinks!
Cracking video Steve, got to say Ektar was a winner for me I'm a little bit biased though as I recently bought a bulk load of expired stock and I'm loving the results im getting. I sooooooo desperately need a second back for the ETRSi and I need a couple of grads. Time to go shopping. Cant beat the 80s look mate although the music is a bit ropey.
More backs (you can never have too many) - makes experimenting very easy.
@@SteveONions exactly
Velvia, except for the last scène.
😊
Maybe I'm weird, but for the first couple photos, I preferred the magenta of the Velvia, but later, I preferred the more natural Ektar, except that very last photo, I preferred the Velvia again..
Same for me Jon 👍
Very nice work. I couldn't catch the speed of the Velvia, supposedly it comes in ISO50 and 100.
This was the original Velvia Mark and I rate it at EI 40 for a bit more shadow detail.
Scanning positives is straightforward and as you have a positive reference, people usually reproduce a faithful image. Scanning colour neg is much less 'predictable' outcome. Quite often, people by default produce a more neutral image. I ran a lab for many years, almost all Fuji positive film does tend to have a slight magenta cast, though on these images it seems more pronounced. During processing, Fuji pos film is particularly susceptible to deviations in process control. Incorrect PH and SG of reversal bath and or bleach steps can accentuate the magenta cast significantly. A very very basic eyeball test is to hold unexposed film base to a neutral light-source. It should look reasonable neutral in colour density. If it's anything beyond slightly magenta, chances are process control is out of errr control! Some 'neutralising' of an overly magenta cast can of course be done during scanning. It would be interesting to see a comparison where corrections are made to the cast in the positive in the same way a subjective image is derived from colour neg.
Thanks for the information Tom, your knowledge in this area far surpasses mine and explains the excessive cast.
In your experience are there any E6 films which handle processing variations more gracefully?
@@SteveONions It's over 10 years now since I closed the lab business, so out of touch a bit tbh. I do know most have been reformulated in one way or another, although Fuji still displays the same characteristic of the magenta cast. I'd say Astia was the least affected, in my opinion. To make matters worse! All professional films are 'seasoned' to some degree before hitting the shelves. Their distribution usually follows more stringent guidelines too. For example, an exported container of designated professional film will not be allowed to sit on a dockside in blazing heat for a month or more before moving on to retailers. 'Amateur' films, well, it's anyone's guess as to their journey to the customer! For that reason, amateur films have an element of durability built into them, to account for the scenic journey to retail and perhaps an extended time on the shelves. Another Fuji poss film Achilles Heel is reciprocity. it starts earlier than most, but off the top of my head, I can't remember exactly at what point. I do know it was a lot earlier than any Fuji data sheet would have you believe. Guess what? The reciprocity characteristic of Fuji poss film is..........................Magenta!!!! So, a lot going on with magenta to cause concern with Fuji! Ironically, the inbuilt tolerance to storage issues seems to go in favour of amateur Astia. It's a lot less prone to significant magenta shifts. Another 'theory' that did the rounds years ago was that a magenta bias was built into Fuji film formula, to counter the effect tendency for the skin tone of Japanese folk to be a bit (dare I say it) Yellow! Apparently their vanity prefers them to have the appearance of sun tanned Europeans. This I must say was industry gossip, i have no idea if there's a shred of truth in it. It is what it is as they say. personally I prefer Fuji film both poss and neg over Kodak. A la with decent process control procedures is paramount in my opinion. if you process your own, be sure to use the full process kit not the three bath affairs. Ensure the bleach is well aerated and well agitated. Keep agitation down in the reversal bath and make sure it's not over concentrated. You can skip reversal bath altogether if you wish and re-expose to light. This method is often used in troubleshooting process errors as it eliminates the R bath. You can download processing parameter data sheets from Fuji and Kodak. These give detailed information on mixing and process control as well as troubleshooting guides. Useful to have on hand, even if you don't dev your own. They can be a bit technical on PH and SG etc but easy enough to digest when you're familiar as you are with the mechanics of it all. Excellent channel Steve, you clearly put a lot into it.
Perhaps I should add. By and large E6 is a process cast in stone. In a professional processing environment, by necessity process parameters are stringent. To my knowledge no E6 films offer any degree of tolerance to processing deviations outside normal control parameters.
What a beautiful place and great photos. Usually I really love Velvia and although being very saturated I find the colours/white balance quite natural. In some shots the Velvia looks quite cold and I prefer Ektar, in others Velvia is excellent. I still don't have a preference after this video.
By the way, this video made me realise I have always pronounced "heather" wrong. 😂
I can’t say that either Velvia or Ektar was a winner, both have their place Uwe.
Great video Steve (as always!). I did this comparison for myself while ago. I would never shoot RVP in mid-day light even this light is great. Definitely Ektar looks better. But when sun is very low (8:44) this light is just paradise for Velvia. I’m a bit puzzled why you did want to shot at this beautiful low contrast warmish light of the setting sun. I’ve tried Ektar for twilight but it just didn’t work for me. The image at 10:05 shows when the Velvia is in its best. During twilight the Velvia can pick up more light and colors than your eyes can see.
Velvia definitely wins in low light and poor contrast with Ektar shining in bright conditions.
Hello Steve, Velvia is a very smooth film for me, it flatters the viewer. I wouldn’t take any landscape photographs with the Ektar myself. I will use the Ektar when I go to Germany in the Ruhr area at the end of October and take photos of the mines and heavy industry. For me it is a rather technical film that is more likely to get a hard subject than a meadow of flowers.
Ektar is definitely an acquired taste Rolf.
Steve: “why not shoot both of them?”
Me: “I like this guy already!”
I liked ektar for daylight shot and velvia for blue hour
LOL, Pet Shop Boys. Nice images. Thanks for sharing.
Would you suggest, if someone does not have a ND grad filter to make two exposures, one for the sky, one for the foreground and then merge the two in PS, especially in a landscape with a level horizon?
Absolutely, merging two images would be fine and I’ll be covering this in a future video.
Have you ever pulled Velvia? If so, what did you think?
Only to around 40 Douglas, I always thought the official rating of 50 was a bit optimistic.
Velvia definitely the nicer for heather shots.
I assume you didn’t try to match the white balance in post? The Ektar is obviously much warmer, but you can change that in Lightroom/Ps.
The shots are gorgeous.
Thanks Joel. There was little to no manipulation in Lightroom, much could be done to shift the colours closer to each other.
Lovely! BTW, I am curious to hear/see your view on Washi films.
I’ve never used them sadly 😕
I prefer Ektar in daylight slightly harsh light. Velvia still the king of sunset/sunrise.
I’d agree with that.
Thanks Steve. I very much enjoyed this video. One thing I also learned is that I still don’t know which film I prefer. But now I have accepted: both, depending ....
An issue that has plagued me with metering for Velvia using a GND filter and my Bronica prism finder. The meter offers spot, average, memory in one. If I use average and, if needed, memory, do I meter before putting on the GND filter or can I leave the filter on? It may sound trivial, but I am handicapped and precision work requires an effort. In this case, the screwing in and out, not the adjustments.
Hi Robert. I would always meter without a graduated filter in place. Bias the reading towards the ground (the darker area) so this comes out correctly then put the necessary ND grad filter in place to darken the sky. It’s ideal if you can measure how much brighter the sky is first but if not just take a guess, 2 stops on a clear day is usually enough.
@@SteveONions Hi Steve, Thanks a lot for answering. I feared to hear this, but at least now I can stop pondering. I secret hoped you would know a trick. Since screwing on and off is difficult for me, I will consider the system I saw you using. Just slide the filter in and out.
When I am back in the Andes, filters are often essential. With B&W, an orange filter effectively blocks the blue. With colour negative, my 2 stop GND is the minimum to avoid a bleached sky. De nuevo, muchas gracias.