Why North Dakota is VASTLY Emptier Than Montana
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 7 ก.ค. 2024
- Why So Many Americans Move To Montana And Not North Dakota
Did you know that between 2021 and 2022, Montana saw a domestic net migration of over 16,000 people, resulting in a 1.5% change in population? In fact, when looking at percent population change, Montana is among the most popular states that people moved to in 2022. However, Montana’s neighbor to the east, North Dakota, saw a negative net migration between 2021 and 2022. That’s right, more people left this state than moved to it, resulting in a negative net migration of about 2,700 people and a percent population change of 0.2%. But why is this? After all, these states are geographically adjacent and have plenty of similarities.
Well, today on Across the Globe we’re going to be looking at why so many Americans move to Montana - but not to North Dakota.
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@@fndkombatant1500😂😂😂😂😂 sure
Amen to that!
Easy living in the prairies. Try dealing with 100+ degree heat, drug cartels and no water, that’ll put some hair on your chest
@@Ndw1995 trust me brother! I don’t disrespect the people of the searing hot south like Arizona or Texas. Im from Fargo north Dakota. A dakotan of the blistering blizzard north.
Why is it so empty? Maybe because it's 40 below zero in the winter?
And 105 degrees of dry heat in the summer
@@wacklemandoeok it doesn’t get that hot
@@Mudplays285 last year it peaked at 106 it definitely does get that hot, the hottest week I’ve ever seen was 5 days in a row of consecutive days over 100
@@Mudplays285 the government was telling literally everyone to stay inside, have ac on, drink lots of cold water. It was crazy hot, half of my plants fried
@@Mudplays285 come on down to the reservation’s, it gets suuuuuupppeer hot, vice versa during the winter those places get hit the hardest, I know my family had go hunting to survive because the roads were so bad going to a grocery store was a guarantee at getting stuck in the middle of nowhere.
I lived in Williston, ND for 27 years but it takes a few years to get used to it. North Dakota winters are not for sissies.
Facts
I’m from the rio grande valley Texas, I live in Fargo nd and it is fookin scary driving in the winter here.
As they say in North Dakota: The reason for the high winds is that Montana blows, and Minnesota sucks!!
Fun fact: north dakota has great farmland
And a lot of alcoholics
Don't really care. We North Dakotans like our privacy, and our wide open spaces. One thing for sure, we don't have homeless tents around in the winter time! Winter keeps the rift raft out of our state. Also one of few states that aren't in debt!
And you can keep it.
@@thegreypath1777 vote blue no matter what
Few misinformation points in this video. First of all, most of Yellowstone National Park is in Wyoming. Montana only has a sliver so people don't go to Montana to visit Yellowstone, they go to Wyoming.
Second, 60% of Montana has the same Great Plains lanscape like North Dakota, and the same weather. Populous cities like Billings and Great Falls are in the plains area. The scenic Rocky Mountains only make up around 30% of the state.
Third, 2:04 Badlands N.P. is in South Dakota.
Theodore Roosevelt National Grasslands is in ND. Also, I believe MT has 0% sales tax.
And that's why all the multi-millionaire shit bags want to live in the western part of the state... nothing new.
The NP is there but the Badlands spill over into ND. Almost went off the overlook spot here after hitting black ice. 🥶
The media buzz and celebrity presence actually makes Montana LESS attractive to the average person. If you want to see what happens when a bunch of rich celebrities move into an area, check out Jackson, WY. It's impossible to live there for anyone who is not rich.
Also Bozeman Mt all Californians yuck
Montana is so close in becoming a CA.
*hundreds n hundreds of miles nothing but corn & sunflower fields. This state has it's own charm. Bismarck is small and very clean city*
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I disagree with the statement "Montana wins hands down in regards to job opportunities". Perhaps their GDP is better, but tons of jobs in ND both in energy, and agriculture. Fargo, and Bismark also are decent job markets.
You are just following the company lie..... All BS...
In a way, the "jobs" in ND are a lie. I've lived here for ten yrs, and some of my friends have lived here 60 yrs. Many, many of these jobs require use of inadequate, insufficient, broken, tools & equipment, with dim-witted, drugged-out, dangerous, criminal-record co-workers, in an extremely dangerous environment & conditions, for 8-14 days straight, 12 hr shifts.
SO much to comment on here:
- Yellowstone is TECHNICALLY located in part in Montana - nearly all of Yellowstone Park is in Wyoming, not Montana
- A large percentage of Montana shares similar/identical geography with North Dakota, so much of this list is essentially comparing western Montana to North Dakota and eastern Montana
- the big oil push in the Bakken oil region really drove North Dakota --- people working in ND had to live in eastern Montana for lack of housing
- do you really think the sky magically turns into 'BIG SKY' when you cross the border from North Dakota into Montana?
- number six is comparing population density, saying that MT has lower population density than ND, which is correct... SO WHY IS THE TITLE OF THIS VIDEO ASKING WHY NORTH DAKOTA IS VASTLY EMPTIER THAN MONTANA? That is getting the issue EXACTLY BACKWARD? (ok, I suspect it is because this was generated by AI)
This video was slightly more a promotion of Montana than strictly an explanation about ND.
Our 3 wire fence between North Dakota and the north pole should be updated to a 4 wire. That would cut down on the wind chill.😅
Most of the homes for sale under 300k in Montana are shit holes. Not as many of the same in North Dakota.
A friend used to live in North Dakota. He says the only thing between North Dakota and the North Pole is a barbed wire fence.
😂😂😂
😂😂😂😂😂😂 get out of here. The whole barbed wire thing cracks me off ...
And the state tree is a telephone pole.
Blame it on the chill weather of Manitoba and Saskatchewan.
People are usually motivated to move over financial issues. I'd say money is a bigger motivator than all the other factors combined. Celebrities? Give me a break.
They briefly mentioned the wind. Seems like it's always windy in ND. Little known fact-ND is the only state where wind socks are made of chain.
With a rock on the end!
ive lived in North dakota for 40 years and agreed on the winters .last winter was by far the worst i can remember. it was basically a nonstop blizzard, and it was still -40 windchill in march and it snowed until may i believe. but theres a ton to love about Fargo and N.D as a whole .
is Winnipeg any closer to that
North Dakota has a lot to love but take Fargo out
@@justinhillman5690 Fargo has a lot of woke idiots for leaders. That doesn't represent we the people of North Dakota.
lol! I dislike fargo as much as the next guy but we kind of need it, any less people and they might take away our statehood @@justinhillman5690 😂
To live in North Dakota it’s honestly not bad because on the days it’s that cold we don’t have school 🏫 😂😂😂 and I hate school…..also if it snows a lot which it does a lot ❤❤
$230,000 average home price sounds extremely outdated - gotta be closer to $500,000 now - where I live - Bozeman - it’s about $800,000!
Cuz stupid calis are flocking their it’s sickening
The house prices in ND are much lower than MT, partly bc many more people from CA relocate to MT.
@DickinsonLivingInDickinsonNort it sounds like they're going to California Montana any moment now.
Ooo I would have mentioned that North Dakota’s GDP is wayyyy higher than Montana! $96k for North Dakota and Montana is $59k!!
What? GDP = Gross domestic product.
@@cheschu3982 Probably referring to GDP per capita.
Pretty darn cold way up there in North Dakota…
Montana 7.64 people per sq Mile. North Dakota 11.75. Good job guys. As for net population change in one year - a few thousand people is rounding error.
simple answer . brutally long extensive -30 degree winters . north Dakota winters are harsher than even Alaska .
yes they are brutal !
If you don’t like summer or spring then NORTH DAKOTA is the rite place... I just moved to ND on sept 2021. Then on April 12-13-14 it was three day brutal blizzard. As soon as ice gone I moved back to midwest.. I REALLY FEEL BAD FOR THOSE HOMELESS. I wish I could take them with me to Midwest.. I can assume there’s no state has bad winter as NORTH DAKOTA
Just for your information I googled the coldest states. North Dakota was 5th. Montana was 6th. -30 degrees happens very seldom we do get wind chills that cold but actual temps that cold don’t happen that often. Get your information straight
From there, damn cold!
I’m a Minnesotan. Back when we were in danger of losing the Twins and Vikings, I joked that if we lost the teams, just change our name to East Dakota!!! 😂🤣😂
a lot of these stats seem to be highly opinionated, like "the best winters are in florida and hawaii" i doubt take into account the people who dont like heat and prefer colder weather. I know its not as popular an idea as the sunny days 24/7, but i doubt whoever put together these statistics didnt take into account all the variables, only the ones they wanted to focus on
florida is call the sunshine state , and sweet corn state
I grew up on Long Island NY so used to cold and snow. Took me 20 years to acclimate to Florida.
Florida is very hot with many hurricane scares and too many people. But I now love it 🤷♀️.
It's the weather and the wind and the flooding in the spring and the people are rude too.
Last time we traversed Montana, we encountered a skin head that did not like us eating at a diner. We are both white and 60 years old.....Not my first place to visit...
Housing is too expensive in North Dakota.
I did 5 years in NoDak. Cold, cold, cold.
Western Montana is far different than Eastern Montana. I bet the stats for Eastern Montana are similar to North Dakota. Hell, you might as well call it west North Dakota lol.
The west side of Montana is gorgeous and mountainous. The east side is flat and ugly just like ND. I still love living in North Dakota though.
Back in the 80s I knew a guy who lived in Montana. He told me that winter it had been between -40 and -20 for over a month straight. He can have it.
Its too cold 🥶
Nobody is moving to Montana because of Michael Keaton
I live in Fargo ND, but is safest place or if you like to live in quiet town .
the badlands are nice to look at but the east side of nd is miserable most of the year. once the snowfall is over you get flooding. nd has great potatoes.
I’m a ND native the weather sucks in winter and ND Government is CORRUPT !!!!!
Any opinions on how global warming will effect ND and Montana winter temp, rain for snow ?
North Dakota is half the size of Montana land wise, MT population has 1 million, ND has 780.000....so MT is actually emptier than ND when you figure in the land size of state and the population. :)
Preferably live in North Dakota than in Florida where there is hurricanes 🤷🏽♂️
At 1:58 ,,, isn’t that in South Dakota??
Burning Cold, should be at the top of the list!
Traveled from Denver to Bismarck last week for work. Wind gusts were 40mph.. yeah. That's an average ND day. And driving across all that farmland and knowing those farmers are out in it 12 months a year.. impressively tough people. I don't know how the American Indians survived up there.
Keeps the riff raff out. 😂😂🤣🤣
I'm from north dakota..
I want to move there sounds awesome
@jczerozerotwo3010 it is but it's cold u know
Back in 1978 l was in the Air Force and got assigned to Minot Air Force Base close to the Canadian border, As a 18 year old fresh out of high school l was lucky enough to be able to swap out assignments with a guy from Chicago who wanted to stay close to his girlfriend, So he gave me his order to go to Germany! Man I really lucked out of a horrible assignment post.
i live in ND so far It seems like there are more people here every day. so where is it empty yet ?
Tiny towns, far apart, no jobs, very cold winters, hot and humid summers, no trees, wind is wicked. All reasons people dislike it. On the plus side, no crowds, northern pike, northern lights, good food, killer sunrises and sunsets, flocks of pheasants, deer and ducks.
Who from nd I'm coming out there Sunday
If you take look at a whole decade not just a specific year, the population increase of north dakota is one of the highest in the usa.
I love it here. Theres great job opportunities, affordable housing, and its very peaceful.
I’m from the South and currently in North Dakota cause my husband works in the oil field, but I’m gonna tell you, I wouldn’t be here if not for that. The people are wonderful, and it’s beautiful country, with the cliffs of the Badlands and rolling fields, but the winter is downright nasty. I’ve never in my life felt this cold. It got down to -70° last month. We just got 5” of snow today, in March. What 😭😭😩🥶 But I will brag on how great the infrastructure is prepared for it, and the summers are amazing. So no hate on ND itself, just the unbearable cold.
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Too cold?
It is the way we like it
Theirs nothing to do there but looking at mountains all day
My boyfriend Daniel his from North Dakota he told me his parents were farm he said never go back to North Dakota
Celebrities drive up home prices like no one else! Plus, they can afford to easily fly to places that have what they need.
Have you heard about this thing called WINTER?
So what does that mean for real state
I’ll drink to this. I’m from North Dakota.
What kind of job opportunity can be found in Montana and North Dakota?
north Dakota has oil field jobs and on the other side of the state is Fargo.its a big city with any job your looking for basically, but I think the pay is lower here than other states .
@@burnthecandleatbothendz thank you. I'm Italian and in the last couple of months I've been watching several videos comparing different lifestyles in the Noth US. I love that part of your country. Maybe one day I will be able to travel there.
@@burnthecandleatbothendzpay is higher for almost everything in North Dakota
@@burnthecandleatbothendzand cost of living is lower than almost every other state
@@burnthecandleatbothendzthe only downside is that we get the extremes of every season and nothing close to do near why
I’d move to North Dakota
North Dakota I’m coming your way
Montana's population growth is due to the show Yellowstone.
there's nothing in nodak... im here and it sucks
Nothing to do there
There are miles and miles of flatland in Montana...
No job too cold.
maybe they need flower pots
Both are good for the wilderness. I want diversity, which both states lack.
And the high crime rate
Please never move to MT or ND.
@@DickinsonLivingInDickinsonNort Not a problem. I don't move to racist and non economically growing areas.
What's the difference btwn Montana and north Dakota? Public land; Montana enjoys lots of land open to public use.
People are moving to western Montana.
Montana, where Men are Men, and Sheep are nervous.
You have South Dakota pictures
Good. That’s 2,700 less people we have to put up with here.
Flakko’s homeland
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Don't worry North Dakota, I will move there
😂 come if you like winter all year long
Ur black.... Don't do that.... They don't like us out there
@@rozaelionai2722 Am moving from 🇰🇪 to NDSU for 5 years. See you as from 2nd Sept . Can't wait
Have fun 😁😁
@@rozaelionai2722 It's hot in the summer, in the 80s and 90s. We have four distinct seasons.
Because there is no good skiing.
I prefer to live in north dakota than in any african or asian country for sure
I'll rather live in africa
I want to live there. California is terrible people and neighborhoods
More people in Montana? North Dakota it is then.
This is one of the most accurate, truthful assessments of North Dakota that I have ever seen. However some of your data is incorrect. North Dakota has much, much lower house prices than Montana. Just search real estate listings in several MT towns, versus several ND towns. $339,000 avg house price in ND???, nooo, maybe if this "house price" included 100acre-800acre farms. The sales tax in MT is 0. One of the facts that no one ever states, is that the people in ND are not friendly. When new people or new businesses move into ND, the local people are uncooperative in many ways. Then, the local people often turn their lack of cooperation onto each other. This is one of the main reasons why their is a net-loss of people in ND, it's hard to survive not just bc of the cold, but it's the unfriendly local people.
I've lived in Williston,Watford City, & Minot.Nothing but friendly people. Then again; they love an import.
@@jesusmartinez5494 In reply to Jesus Martinez, when I worked in Watford City, there were several work crews of Hispanics where I lived that rented several apartments. The company owner and supervisors made a big effort to keep their work crews from going out at night in Watford City due to problems initiated by unfriendly people.
This assessment was an absolute joke. It was so inaccurate that it's entire premise of why ND is empty compared MT is a flat out lie if you look at population density. It was wrong about housing, plus the average income is higher in North dakota, the GDP is higher in North Dakota etc. when it comes to taking a vacation 9 times out of 10 you go to Montana, but when it comes to a more desirable place to live for your average person it's ND all the way, or Eastern MT.
Western MT is rightfully bitter about getting pushed out of their communities by mega rich city people. ND is still as friendly as it gets and if you get any other impression well it was either a one-off impression or you should probably take a look in the mirror.
I still remember this dialog from the movie, "hunt for red october"
I will live in Montana. And I will marry a round American woman and raise rabbits, and she will cook them for me.... Simple dialog such as this reinforces the belief, that one curses an evil communist regime but don't hate the people who probably suffer within.
since then, I always wanted to visit Montana.
The people of North Dakota dislike outsiders. The outsiders go to North Dakota get their oil money and leave because the locals make it miserable for outsiders. It’s why most of North Dakota small towns are dying because the locals are leaving and the locals who stay run off outsiders who otherwise would stay their. North Dakota is a dying state. Especially the western side of the state.
The celebrities are not moving to the eastern half Montana, plus they have multiple homes elsewhere so they are not there for most of the winter for sure, get real.
I have lived in Fargo, ND for most of my life, it's has grown in the last few years with people who have been placed by the thousands, yet many of them seem to somehow disappear when it gets cold out, when government is handing out "free" money and paying the rent why not move around.
No it's not. Half the size, half the population Same pop density. .
But it is NOT vastly emptier that Montana. Montana has less than 7 people per square mile and North Dakota has more than 9 people per square mile. Your information is INCORRECT.
Nicer landscape & another state w/ fewer ppl. Ppl I think move to these Northwestern States to get away from ppl.
That probably has some truth
Better question is why would anyone want to move there. The winters are brutally cold.
Cuz there’s no people there
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North Dakota is safe from the homeless
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Quite a weird comparison! Neither state has enough people to even be relevant. For some reason, the founders decided to give equal representation to all states. So - North and South Dakota Wyoming and Montana have 8 senators representing a couple of million people. California has 2 senators representing 40MM+. Does that make sense???
It makes perfect sense, each state and the people who live in them have the same representation in terms of senators sent to Washington D.C, but live in different parts of the country with their own regional issues that are handled by representatives.
This is why state representatives are based on the population of a state, and why California has 53 representatives throughout the state while Nevada only has 4.
No one in this country wants to live in a reality where everything is decided by 5 states and everyone else has to just do what they say.
It doesn't matter how populated California, Texas, Florida, New York, and Illinois are they shouldn't get to decide whatever everyone else is going to do.
ALL U.S. citizens would probably agree that CA is ruined, huge homeless problem, gangs, flash-mob looting, traffic, unaffordable housing. ID, WY, MT, ND don't have these problems. It's an easy choice to decide whether you want to live, vote, and be governed by CA ideology, or mid-west values.
The real question is why do North Dakota even exist ?
Just to keep dumb shits like you out!
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@@Spacebuddy-lv3ug merge with the south and just call yourself Dakota?
@@davidsr9719exatamente
Because ND is flat and boring….
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