I remember driving all the way to Victoria, British Columbia from New Brunwick with my parents in 1993. I was 11 or 12 and had forgotten my Illusions cassettes at home. I wanted to hear some Guns, so my Mom took me to a Zellers or Kmart and the only GnR cassette they had was the November Rain single. I still have that tape to this day. Oh..memories. ..I can proudly say that I still listen to the exact same music (and genre) that I did when I was in elementary and middle school. I never went through a Back Street Boys or rap phase or anything like that, like so many of my friends did. Although, I have to admit that I was a huge Poison fan when I was little hehe.I would say that GnR, Megadeth, Motley Crue, Queen, Metallica (Black album and back) and Iron Maiden have always been my favorite bands.
i was at a bar in about 1994 the band went on break and they showed videos during it, november rain came on and played to halfway through the second solo when the screen goes off and the band started their next set, needless to say the crowd didn't respond well at all, and soon the band left the stage and started the video back up until it finished. this wasn't a crappy band either they were one of the top local bands at the time. was a unforgettable moment.
Cool story man. Such a honest critique ever. Fuck the other comment here. The dude has emotional intelligence of a first grader to even say something like that.
"Everybody needs to be alone sometimes..." that is certain and I admire Axl for being able to state that for all of us. Solitude can lead to contemplation and reflection. This song turned me on to Guns N Roses. I listen to this when I am down and it becomes my validation and salvation and lifts me up.
22:34 Gripe? Did you happen to notice he was dressed completely differently and had a Les Paul when he came out the door, not to mention the Les Paul isn't plug into anything and there are no amps or speakers around? It isn't supposed to be the same church. It's part of the surrealism of '80s and '90s videos.
If we could take the time To lay it on the line I could rest my head Just knowin' that you were mine All mine Oli you were all mine once upon a time. I'll forever miss you. I'm lucky to have ever called you mine
Damn!! I absolutely LOVE your channel! I didn't think It was possible but yet you did it AGAIN!! ANOTHER freakin kick ass upload !! One of my favorite songs all because I was born on November 9th and like an asshat I would listen to it like Axl was singing it to me and Slash's solo was for me too hahaha. Yehhhhhh I was a dreamer lol. Rock on Bro!! Thanks again! 💋🎤🎸🎶🎃🎃
This band was, is, incredible. AXL is really a smart guy that people dont give him credit for. How beautiful can one man be? When he was young, omg. GORGEOUS, pure testosterone!!! People criticise him now for one thing or another. They forget how he abused his voice for his fans. He is one in a billion , that's all I know. I wish adler and izzy would rejoin. Why not.?? People make things hard when they don't have to be hard. Axl was really messed up when he was young but I think he's got it together now ..I think he's found happiness in his midlife years.. I mean come on, this band is the third largest grossing band financially in America with this tour. you got to give the guys credit they're amazing . Duff looks fantastic.. Axl needs to lose some weight yeah but he looks great not singing as well but just like I said he abused his voice for for all of us . slash is magnificent.. they're just special , just really really special people!!!
This is a time where I’m glad Axl was insistent to get his way because this song is a masterpiece. I think I love it all the more because of just how stark the difference this song is compared to their normal sound. There’s something cool when a song isn’t just great but is also such s pivot from a bands norm, taking major artistic risks and showing another side of a band like this song does. Hard to imagine this song not existing.
I never thought the church Slash walks out of during the wedding was the same one we see he play outside of. I always assumed the solo play was AFTER the funeral where he just felt like letting out his "emotions" as it were in the most secluded place he could think of where he could grieve was that church. But I could be wrong.
He walked out to have a smoke. Then he saw helicopters width video cameras filming him and swooping to and fro north to east and south to west. He made believe he was playing a guitar solo....and then added the music later. It was all impromptu.
Your gripe about Slash's solo in front of the small church....I never thought it was supposed to be the same church. I always assumed they were making a statement about dried up love like a desert or something....but when they throw rice in front of the church, it is obviously not the same place. I
First, I’d like to thank you for doing such incredibly thorough research for all of your “True Story” videos. I’ve enjoyed them immensely. Second, just a few questions. Have you ever considered doing a video on some of the ancillary people involved with GN’R? Maybe like a whatever happened to type of video on some of them like Craig Duswalt (Axl’s personal assistant), Earl Gabbidon (Axl’s longtime bodyguard), Marc Canter (Long time associate of GN’R), Vicky Hamilton (Onetime Manager of GN’R), The 976 Horn section from the UYI tour, The guy (Roadie???) that used to announce GN’R as they went on stage, especially during the UYI tour. I always wanted to hear about him!!!! What’s his name??? Whatever happened to him???The list goes on, but for some of serious GN’R fans old enough to remember their glory days, it would be nice to know what happened to them. Thanks again and keep up the great work! GnFnRs! Live like a Suicide!
Thanks for the quick response! Yes, your YT channel truly rocks. If you ever choose to venture down that road, I would consider it the coolest thing any true-blue, dyed-in-the-wool, GN’R fan could ever do! For me personally, the guy (roadie) that announced the band for, seemingly, every show of the UYI tour would be the ultimate WHT?! Also, how could I forget to mention Beta Lebeis, Axl’s longtime personal assistant/Manager?! That’s gotta be a great story to tell. Thanks again! GnFnRs! Live ?!*@ like a suicide!
@@RockNRollTrueStories2 Not only the drum fills are the same in the trilogy, But the chord sequences too. B major F# major, G# minor, E major, C# minor
It's so cool that my second favorite band mötley crüe inspired my favourite bands lead singer to write one of the best gnr songs of all time. That's really cool thanks for the info!
Axl's bandana was an icon and highly fashionable amongst my high school and city of Sydney Australia 🇦🇺. It was so difficult to buy a bandanas at the time in the late 1980s.
When this song came out they reported the maid of honor was Axl's sister. Also if I recall correctly they said Slash wanted to walk out of a church in a desert to out do something he saw Richie Sambora do in a music video
It's possible, since there was a lot of competition between bands and their videos at the time (ah, the good old days of MTV). However, Richie Sambora played on top of a cliff in the desert (if you are talking about Bed of Roses). It's pretty hard to top that. And the scene in November Rain surely doesn't. But it's still really cool and an amazing solo!
I can tell you that after spending most of my life in Noblesville, the fact that “November Rain” was played here first is the only noteworthy thing to ever happen here.
Sid, why do you keep bringin' up this supposed ex/interior church discontinuity?? This is at least the third time:) Haven't you ever had a dream of walking into a seemingly small house n' the inside is massive? It was deliberate, dude
The November Rain video now has over 900 million views. I bet within the next six months it'll become the oldest video to cross the one billion mark. Suck on that, Michael Jackson.
The song is about 26 years old . You Tube began about what 12 years ago So 900 million divide by 12,= 75, 000,000 per year so six months won’t get you 100 million. Sorry.
The song is about 26 years old . You Tube began about what 12 years ago So 900 million divide by 12,= 75, 000,000 per year so six months won’t get you 100 million. Sorry. Reply
So you will have to suck on Michael Jackson or Mccaauley “ home alone” Culkin. You can video it and call it “ homo alone.’ Since you brought the overtone to the table in the first place.
I had to get my guard card downtown L. A. I thought I'd walk to South Broadway and check out the Orpheum Theatre and took a couple of pictures for my girlfriend whom is a big GN'R fan as well as I am. Its pretty cool
Before I knew about the history with Hollywood rose, I thought that was the idea of the band name with the November rain and estranged followed by it's so easy and welcome to the jungle. Basically this duality thing like Marilyn manson saying it was Charles manson and Marilyn Monroe
My favorite november rain live performance is this first one in Noblesville Indiana. They make mistakes here and there, and is very raw. I love how it sounds without all the synthesizers.
The 1992 performance at the VMA's was epic. They were so professional and in the moment, putting behind the drama behind the scenes with Nirvana. (Nothing against Nirvana but given that the bassist whacked himself in the head with his own bass, I give the evening to Guns). 🎹🥀🎸
So basically...with November Rain, they put about seven years of really hard work in... ...but they didn't put that much work into it, before they ultimately released it...lulz Anyways...cool doc bruv...n thx for posting. Also for that L in the D to their live preference...superkewl..!! Plus, I'm a total nerd for that fun facks shit, so this was super interesting..!! ...hope this cat has got some more content like this...xD
I know Axl had November Rain in his head (and I love that song) but still at 8:14 he could have listened to all those songs the guys had worked on, kind of a dick move from his part.
Matt Sorum “greatest song ‘we’ve’ ever written”. ‘We’ve’?! GNR is Adler Axl Slash Duff Izzy. Not some brought in session drummer. Adler Duff and Slash had 33 songs when Axl brought November Rain in. Sorum played drums to music to music Duff Slash Izzy and Axl had largely already made with Adler drumming. Adler was the key member when GNR made those songs contributing to their shape and sound. Sorum came in after those sounds were created to do session drumming. Sorum an overrated drummer riding Adlers work. Never forget Adler drums are on Locomotive the best songs on UYI I & II
its an absolute masterpiece, i was always really impressed how well axl plays the piano
Greatest song ever written... it’s the song that got me into G N’R and the song that got me into Rock
Ben43065 glad to hear that. It's a great song
I agree.Love November Rain. Perfect. Timeless classic.
Ok mee too 😌
I remember driving all the way to Victoria, British Columbia from New Brunwick with my parents in 1993. I was 11 or 12 and had forgotten my Illusions cassettes at home. I wanted to hear some Guns, so my Mom took me to a Zellers or Kmart and the only GnR cassette they had was the November Rain single. I still have that tape to this day. Oh..memories.
..I can proudly say that I still listen to the exact same music (and genre) that I did when I was in elementary and middle school. I never went through a Back Street Boys or rap phase or anything like that, like so many of my friends did. Although, I have to admit that I was a huge Poison fan when I was little hehe.I would say that GnR, Megadeth, Motley Crue, Queen, Metallica (Black album and back) and Iron Maiden have always been my favorite bands.
aweseom! Did you see guns in vancouver in 1993?
Wow you were driving at 11? Impressive. Did you use a little booster seat so u could C over the spinning steering wheel?
Coolness
Here's you brother pal,well except for poison,lol but I did like every rose has its thorn,was that even poison??
"Duff was actually hit by a bottle of piss and knocked unconscious"
That came out of nowhere and I laughed for about 10 minutes, lmao.
This was one of the songs in my youth that was memorable!!! I still find it amazing in 2022!!
This channel goes from strength to strength, with a truly passionate guy at the helm. Thanks Sid! Much love from Nottingham U.K.
i was at a bar in about 1994 the band went on break and they showed videos during it, november rain came on and played to halfway through the second solo when the screen goes off and the band started their next set, needless to say the crowd didn't respond well at all, and soon the band left the stage and started the video back up until it finished. this wasn't a crappy band either they were one of the top local bands at the time. was a unforgettable moment.
You write like a first grader.
Cool story man. Such a honest critique ever. Fuck the other comment here. The dude has emotional intelligence of a first grader to even say something like that.
"Everybody needs to be alone sometimes..." that is certain and I admire Axl for being able to state that for all of us. Solitude can lead to contemplation and reflection. This song turned me on to Guns N Roses. I listen to this when I am down and it becomes my validation and salvation and lifts me up.
Oh, and I always assumed the church size issue is a deliberate touch of surrealism :)
22:34 Gripe? Did you happen to notice he was dressed completely differently and had a Les Paul when he came out the door, not to mention the Les Paul isn't plug into anything and there are no amps or speakers around? It isn't supposed to be the same church. It's part of the surrealism of '80s and '90s videos.
If we could take the time
To lay it on the line
I could rest my head
Just knowin' that you were mine
All mine
Oli you were all mine once upon a time. I'll forever miss you. I'm lucky to have ever called you mine
This song introduced me to gnr, ive been a big fan ever since..love this song
Damn!! I absolutely LOVE your channel! I didn't think It was possible but yet you did it AGAIN!! ANOTHER freakin kick ass upload !! One of my favorite songs all because I was born on November 9th and like an asshat I would listen to it like Axl was singing it to me and Slash's solo was for me too hahaha. Yehhhhhh I was a dreamer lol. Rock on Bro!! Thanks again! 💋🎤🎸🎶🎃🎃
Lisa Disso thanks Lisa! I've got some more great stuff coming on my channel!
This is a fantastic channel. So much great information. Good work! 🙂👌
We always play this song for my brother who committed suicide in November of 1990. It's like a tradition in family.
This band was, is, incredible. AXL is really a smart guy that people dont give him credit for. How beautiful can one man be? When he was young, omg. GORGEOUS, pure testosterone!!!
People criticise him now for one thing or another. They forget how he abused his voice for his fans. He is one in a billion , that's all I know.
I wish adler and izzy would rejoin.
Why not.?? People make things hard when they don't have to be hard.
Axl was really messed up when he was young but I think he's got it together now ..I think he's found happiness in his midlife years..
I mean come on, this band is the third largest grossing band financially in America with this tour. you got to give the guys credit they're amazing .
Duff looks fantastic.. Axl needs to lose some weight yeah but he looks great not singing as well but just like I said he abused his voice for for all of us .
slash is magnificent.. they're just special , just really really special people!!!
Agree! As a teenage girl in the 90s I always thought Axl was absolutely hot! 😁
I agree!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ❤❤❤
This is a time where I’m glad Axl was insistent to get his way because this song is a masterpiece. I think I love it all the more because of just how stark the difference this song is compared to their normal sound. There’s something cool when a song isn’t just great but is also such s pivot from a bands norm, taking major artistic risks and showing another side of a band like this song does. Hard to imagine this song not existing.
I never thought the church Slash walks out of during the wedding was the same one we see he play outside of. I always assumed the solo play was AFTER the funeral where he just felt like letting out his "emotions" as it were in the most secluded place he could think of where he could grieve was that church. But I could be wrong.
He walked out to have a smoke. Then he saw helicopters width video cameras filming him and swooping to and fro north to east and south to west. He made believe he was playing a guitar solo....and then added the music later. It was all impromptu.
Your gripe about Slash's solo in front of the small church....I never thought it was supposed to be the same church. I always assumed they were making a statement about dried up love like a desert or something....but when they throw rice in front of the church, it is obviously not the same place. I
First, I’d like to thank you for doing such incredibly thorough research for all of your “True Story” videos. I’ve enjoyed them immensely. Second, just a few questions. Have you ever considered doing a video on some of the ancillary people involved with GN’R? Maybe like a whatever happened to type of video on some of them like Craig Duswalt (Axl’s personal assistant), Earl Gabbidon (Axl’s longtime bodyguard), Marc Canter (Long time associate of GN’R), Vicky Hamilton (Onetime Manager of GN’R), The 976 Horn section from the UYI tour, The guy (Roadie???) that used to announce GN’R as they went on stage, especially during the UYI tour. I always wanted to hear about him!!!! What’s his name??? Whatever happened to him???The list goes on, but for some of serious GN’R fans old enough to remember their glory days, it would be nice to know what happened to them. Thanks again and keep up the great work! GnFnRs! Live like a Suicide!
drphibes72 thanks so much for the kind words! I never actually thought of doing that but I love the idea! I'll definitely look into doing that!
Thanks for the quick response! Yes, your YT channel truly rocks. If you ever choose to venture down that road, I would consider it the coolest thing any true-blue, dyed-in-the-wool, GN’R fan could ever do! For me personally, the guy (roadie) that announced the band for, seemingly, every show of the UYI tour would be the ultimate WHT?! Also, how could I forget to mention Beta Lebeis, Axl’s longtime personal assistant/Manager?! That’s gotta be a great story to tell. Thanks again! GnFnRs! Live ?!*@ like a suicide!
@@RockNRollTrueStories2 Not only the drum fills are the same in the trilogy, But the chord sequences too. B major F# major, G# minor, E major, C# minor
This song was my teenage girl fandom at it’s pinnacle. ❤️
Awesome job on this video. Just an amazing amount of good info. Rock on, brother
thanks! Glad you enjoyed it!
If I’m not mistaken, that guitar that Slash plays during the solo in front of the church was Joe Perry’s from Aerosmith.
It's so cool that my second favorite band mötley crüe inspired my favourite bands lead singer to write one of the best gnr songs of all time.
That's really cool thanks for the info!
Henriks Otto you're welcome!
That’s just a sad sad thing to find meaning in.
@awocado renegade that is cool! I love motley Crue!
Sid, this is fantastic. I fell in love with GNR because of this song and music video. Xx
Axl's bandana was an icon and highly fashionable amongst my high school and city of Sydney Australia 🇦🇺. It was so difficult to buy a bandanas at the time in the late 1980s.
Awesome channel, been to the Rainbow. It is a magical place.
Nomlas Salmon thanks! Make sure to subscribe if you love GNR!
A long review for a long song! Great job sid
KingsDisasterGarage thanks! Glad you enjoyed it
Greatest Rock n' Roll Song since Bohemian Rhapsody
They couldn't find a church with a desert so they used a church on wheels from desperado...
Thanks for this episode
you're welcome!
When this song came out they reported the maid of honor was Axl's sister. Also if I recall correctly they said Slash wanted to walk out of a church in a desert to out do something he saw Richie Sambora do in a music video
wouldn't be surprised about axl's sister thing since she worked on the use your illusion tour.
It's possible, since there was a lot of competition between bands and their videos at the time (ah, the good old days of MTV). However, Richie Sambora played on top of a cliff in the desert (if you are talking about Bed of Roses). It's pretty hard to top that. And the scene in November Rain surely doesn't. But it's still really cool and an amazing solo!
"...a WHOLE bowl of spaghetti"..!!??
Right...one dosen't have to read between the lines on that one..!!
xD
17miles in LA 30-40min? Lol. Maybe at 4a.m. otherwise you're looking at least an hr drive.
Great video, love these stories !!
thanks you're welcome! Plenty more on the way!
I can tell you that after spending most of my life in Noblesville, the fact that “November Rain” was played here first is the only noteworthy thing to ever happen here.
Also I may or may not be intoxicated but that quote about an entire bowl of spaghetti cracked me up. A lot.
I don't see the link to the video of the first live performance at Noblesville.
here ya go th-cam.com/video/mMUMb7NMy84/w-d-xo.html
Sid, why do you keep bringin' up this supposed ex/interior church discontinuity?? This is at least the third time:) Haven't you ever had a dream of walking into a seemingly small house n' the inside is massive? It was deliberate, dude
haha thanks.
fvkizzydoinheuh just like the tent in Harry Potter & The Goblet of Fire.
Are you sure that's Rachtman jumping into the cake? His hair is fluffier than that.
Damn dude you did your homework. Good job thanks I really liked it
thanks man! Make sure to subscribe! Also we just interviewed Marc Canter on our channel and it's definitely worth checking out!
Thanks and I'm a sub now. Keep up the great work I have watched several of your videos all of which were filled with history.
The November Rain video now has over 900 million views. I bet within the next six months it'll become the oldest video to cross the one billion mark.
Suck on that, Michael Jackson.
Ethan Sloan Michael Jackson doesn't give a fuck with all those billions he's been earning after death. so suck on that
The song is about 26 years old . You Tube began about what 12 years ago So 900 million divide by 12,= 75, 000,000 per year so six months won’t get you 100 million. Sorry.
The song is about 26 years old . You Tube began about what 12 years ago So 900 million divide by 12,= 75, 000,000 per year so six months won’t get you 100 million. Sorry.
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So you will have to suck on Michael Jackson or Mccaauley “ home alone” Culkin. You can video it and call it “ homo alone.’ Since you brought the overtone to the table in the first place.
Why is there no mention of izzy stradlin’s rhythm guitar?
I had to get my guard card downtown L. A. I thought I'd walk to South Broadway and check out the Orpheum Theatre and took a couple of pictures for my girlfriend whom is a big GN'R fan as well as I am. Its pretty cool
they said in making videos vhs that it was a church on wheels.......because they could not find a church that had the right back ground !
thanks for the info
Isn’t it the church from the movie Silverado.
Let’s talk G N’ R….
Is this your longest true story? I actually showed this song to my sister and converted her to listening to rock 🤘🏼
i think you're right it is the longest true story. Estranged is pretty long and one in a million was around the same length.
If u have a gripe about the church, you'll have a meltdown over Squidward's house!
Before I knew about the history with Hollywood rose, I thought that was the idea of the band name with the November rain and estranged followed by it's so easy and welcome to the jungle. Basically this duality thing like Marilyn manson saying it was Charles manson and Marilyn Monroe
It wasn't Rachtman that jumped through the cake btw. Cmon now.
My favorite november rain live performance is this first one in Noblesville Indiana. They make mistakes here and there, and is very raw. I love how it sounds without all the synthesizers.
yeah i also love the 1993 skin n bones tour performances.
Guns N' Roses Central humm I'll check that.
Nothing lasts forever....
I always thought that slashes solo outside the church was just him daydreaming during the wedding, which is why it didnt match?
Slash’s solo...
This is more, making of a song not the real story behind November rain.
The 1992 performance at the VMA's was epic. They were so professional and in the moment, putting behind the drama behind the scenes with Nirvana. (Nothing against Nirvana but given that the bassist whacked himself in the head with his own bass, I give the evening to Guns). 🎹🥀🎸
El Compadre is a Mexican restaurant not a studio...
thanks
A J 😂
So basically...with November Rain, they put about seven years of really hard work in...
...but they didn't put that much work into it, before they ultimately released it...lulz
Anyways...cool doc bruv...n thx for posting. Also for that L in the D to their live preference...superkewl..!!
Plus, I'm a total nerd for that fun facks shit, so this was super interesting..!!
...hope this cat has got some more content like this...xD
Have you done Estranged?
Gergana Hristova I've recorded it but haven't released it yet
Gergana Hristova I'm waiting too
Does Axl talk in between songs a lot?
The original acoustic version is the best version
A whole bowl of spaghetti
it was an incident I heard :)
Best true story out of all of them great job sidd 👑
Karen Macdonald thanks!
I know slash only showed up for his parts for nov.rain. when asked what it was about slash said he didnt know ! Lol
The Weird & Wacky World Of Izzy Stradlin-Mygnrforum:)
Ryan Gettig I love that thread haha
I love it too:)If Izzy drops new music or tours we'll thank that thread!LIke CCompany at Valley Forge Military Academy"They're My People":)
Here is the link to Music Video Sins channel where they review November Rain: th-cam.com/video/x2OAZO5tBms/w-d-xo.html
Please do Chinese Democracy.
John Funk yup on its way soon I’m also doing the whole album
I would do it but I don’t no how to talk or write Chinese words. Sorry.
Why bother . The album is a piece of shit.
@@RockNRollTrueStories2 And where are the other parts after 1998 episode?
I like the song but it's not on my GnR playlist.
So much talk?!Think about it!all the best!🤘
lets face it axl is above everyone in the band
Btw, we don’t care about what tracii guns has to say 😬
I know Axl had November Rain in his head (and I love that song) but still at 8:14 he could have listened to all those songs the guys had worked on, kind of a dick move from his part.
Pretty sure Elton John wrote November Rain
Uh no Elton John did not write November Rain, Axl wrote the song he started writing it when he was a teenager. Do some research idiot
Nope
Matt Sorum “greatest song ‘we’ve’ ever written”. ‘We’ve’?! GNR is Adler Axl Slash Duff Izzy. Not some brought in session drummer. Adler Duff and Slash had 33 songs when Axl brought November Rain in. Sorum played drums to music to music Duff Slash Izzy and Axl had largely already made with Adler drumming. Adler was the key member when GNR made those songs contributing to their shape and sound. Sorum came in after those sounds were created to do session drumming. Sorum an overrated drummer riding Adlers work. Never forget Adler drums are on Locomotive the best songs on UYI I & II