Nice video! lol This is the first time a well known player has left LVL and they acted pretty much like you would think someone would act when they lose a player for the first time. Either way there are more player rocking our gear right now because of them and we also saw a nice boost in online sales.
@@WillBallForSoup Of course there was a line out the door. Because it was 50% off and they were getting rid of the product. Obviously people are going to buy them. I don't see how it's such a "big brain move" to simply get rid of the stock you had and then will no longer ever restock, so it's not like they're beating anyone in terms of price. Maybe for that 4 hours? What an L for columbus LVL!
ANS also violated MAP on Virtue products… that’s why they haven’t had them for years… but I did see like last weeek that they are carrying them again lol
If Level did not post the sale. They would not been in violation of MAP, minimum advertised price. They can sell the DNA stuff at any price they want in store or over the phone. Also DNA did not lose any money, because Level already paid for items. MAP is to help protect the smaller shops who cannot complete against the buying power of a shop like ANS.
DNA lost money on future business. I heard that LVLup was moving 50K in DNA products yearly. Its such a unique situation to have a brand brag about MAP violations
When u step away from Paintball just for a second and come back, you realize how cringey it is and how it will never become mainstream. Love ❤️ the vids…keep calling these 🤡 clowns out.
The best part is that Tom Cole just got done saying on the podcast that some "gambling site" messaged him over the comment about them buying a TV channel. Makes him look like a "chump"
I actually had a mutual friend of mine and Toms reach out with something along the lines of "Tom's paying very close attention to your videos". Ok? I'm not changing a goddam thing.
So spicy and so real! Definitely not a professional move on LVL's part but I find the message they're sending to Infamous quite entertaining. Love the story here Scotty - Keep em coming!
Why does this story sound like when legacy was a new pro team back in the day . Every team took from them and they did almost the same thing . I mean it’s what pro paintball is about sometimes your best guy leaves for a better opportunity. These companies don’t care about players , they want results . It sucks but paintball still hopefully will become more mainstream and be back on tv and streaming pro sport like Nfl .
it's going to make it's way to obscure gambling sites first. I also agree infamous did nothing wrong. the most wild part of the story is the MAP violations
Sorry LVL it does matter what team your guy left for, point is he left. Your focus is on the wrong problem. If he starts winning with Infamous, do you think Impact doesn't come knocking. Being in the midwest your franchise's task of building talent is harder.(Ask Rennick Miller I'm amazed he did it for so long) Because you have to find guys that want to be there and believe in what your doing.
Seeing how Infamous has a divisional team in my state.... I gotta side with Infamous from a hometown perspective. Bottom line, it's a pro sport, if a player is offered more money ANYWHERE IN ANY PRO SPORT they're gonna take it. Just my two cents
@@WillBallForSoup Lol they barely ordered anything anyways and like bagortalent said we lose nothing....they already paid us... and to be honest we had a nice little boost in online sales that day as well.
Maybe. You have to separate Greenspan the creator vs Greenspan the Hall of Fame player. it's probably not something I'm going to take further than what I said here. Most people can't make that distinction. 👹
I've only just gotten back into pb. And before when I was really into it players were paid nothing to very little. Just free guns and such. So that being said. I think its funny they are so hurt for a player changing for a "better experience " but even with that. We don't know what deals were going down maybe infamous snaked him harder then we realize.
I may not be interpreting this correctly, but because they were pissed LVL decided to lose money on a fire sale, getting the (actually great) infamous brand out to a ton of ballers for cheap? I really only see that as a win for Infamous. Edit: after finishing the video I see the comparison with what Ryan did to you, so I respect their “stand” but still see it as a win for Infamous and an L for LVL. It’s not the same. Infamous didn’t slander them, they went about business as usual, acquiring talent. You did the right thing with hormeses, LVL overreacted
It's interesting that the president of the NXL is so threatened by me he felt the need to diss me on two shows. The difference is Marcello and Tyler didn't say a negative word. Greenspan decided to shit one with some bold lies.
I have always looked up to Damian. Conspiracy theories are a lot of fun and sometimes the truth. We've actually had a number of voice calls off the record in recent months 🤝
I can't pick a side I'm sure there's other things going on that are more low key maybe they had already talked about it and said they won't then did? It's a young team so I can see why it would suck to have the old heads pick your team apart... BUT if you're going to stop carrying a brand go out with a bang! Lol
Tom Cole did his dammage control tour and dissed me on two shows. Marcello and Tyler didn't say a single negative thing. Greenspan took a big shot with things that aren't true.
Nice video! lol This is the first time a well known player has left LVL and they acted pretty much like you would think someone would act when they lose a player for the first time. Either way there are more player rocking our gear right now because of them and we also saw a nice boost in online sales.
Love it boys
I'm glad you're out here and not taking this the wrong way. I'd feel good about the demand for the products, there was a line out the door for them
@@WillBallForSoup Of course there was a line out the door. Because it was 50% off and they were getting rid of the product. Obviously people are going to buy them. I don't see how it's such a "big brain move" to simply get rid of the stock you had and then will no longer ever restock, so it's not like they're beating anyone in terms of price. Maybe for that 4 hours? What an L for columbus LVL!
ANS also violated MAP on Virtue products… that’s why they haven’t had them for years… but I did see like last weeek that they are carrying them again lol
If Level did not post the sale. They would not been in violation of MAP, minimum advertised price. They can sell the DNA stuff at any price they want in store or over the phone. Also DNA did not lose any money, because Level already paid for items. MAP is to help protect the smaller shops who cannot complete against the buying power of a shop like ANS.
DNA lost money on future business. I heard that LVLup was moving 50K in DNA products yearly. Its such a unique situation to have a brand brag about MAP violations
I participated very lightly with a fill cap and thread saver for the low, after a good day ballin there, thanks LVL up ❤
When u step away from Paintball just for a second and come back, you realize how cringey it is and how it will never become mainstream. Love ❤️ the vids…keep calling these 🤡 clowns out.
The best part is that Tom Cole just got done saying on the podcast that some "gambling site" messaged him over the comment about them buying a TV channel. Makes him look like a "chump"
I actually had a mutual friend of mine and Toms reach out with something along the lines of "Tom's paying very close attention to your videos". Ok? I'm not changing a goddam thing.
@@WillBallForSoup thank you. paintball is a fucking joke let them know
Been wringing my hands waiting for this to drop LOL
So spicy and so real! Definitely not a professional move on LVL's part but I find the message they're sending to Infamous quite entertaining. Love the story here Scotty - Keep em coming!
Why does this story sound like when legacy was a new pro team back in the day . Every team took from them and they did almost the same thing . I mean it’s what pro paintball is about sometimes your best guy leaves for a better opportunity. These companies don’t care about players , they want results . It sucks but paintball still hopefully will become more mainstream and be back on tv and streaming pro sport like Nfl .
it's going to make it's way to obscure gambling sites first. I also agree infamous did nothing wrong. the most wild part of the story is the MAP violations
Sorry LVL it does matter what team your guy left for, point is he left. Your focus is on the wrong problem. If he starts winning with Infamous, do you think Impact doesn't come knocking. Being in the midwest your franchise's task of building talent is harder.(Ask Rennick Miller I'm amazed he did it for so long) Because you have to find guys that want to be there and believe in what your doing.
That’s Jeff Munoz from Veteran Militia and part of the Bunkerfest crew
So petty lmao. It's not like Infamous or LVL are winning any events this year, anyways.
Never say never
When lvl needs dye. But infms has their own brand. Lmao. Sounds petty asf
Seeing how Infamous has a divisional team in my state.... I gotta side with Infamous from a hometown perspective. Bottom line, it's a pro sport, if a player is offered more money ANYWHERE IN ANY PRO SPORT they're gonna take it. Just my two cents
Infamous did nothing wrong. Leaving for more cash, products or more comfortable events is fair too. The controversy is the spite sale.
I know this is old but, I personally think established pro teams buying players is a reflection of their program... 😂
I'm just here for the Tyler Skimore footage
19.7k lets gooo you are alomst there
They have to pay the price they agreed to when they took the gear regardless of what they sell it for , infamous is literally losing nothing.
they are losing future sales to LVLup, but that's just one proshop
@@WillBallForSoup Lol they barely ordered anything anyways and like bagortalent said we lose nothing....they already paid us... and to be honest we had a nice little boost in online sales that day as well.
I wanna hear about this greenspan drama 😂
Maybe. You have to separate Greenspan the creator vs Greenspan the Hall of Fame player. it's probably not something I'm going to take further than what I said here. Most people can't make that distinction. 👹
I've only just gotten back into pb. And before when I was really into it players were paid nothing to very little. Just free guns and such. So that being said. I think its funny they are so hurt for a player changing for a "better experience " but even with that. We don't know what deals were going down maybe infamous snaked him harder then we realize.
Hell yeah 20K👈😎👉. ✌️out from this guy 😎
I ❤ unemployed soup rip his wallet but the regular uploads r nice lols
I'm actually working 25-30 hours a week :/ still poor AF tho 🥣
Your the man that paintball needs! Please keep this content up and you should definitely make the video about the Greenspan beef
LOL they talk shit and then give you something made in vietnam typical paint war
I remember when you and some other dude exposed hormesis with there walmart designs too 😂
Hormesis did not use that cloth, the guy that made that admitted it was a joke.
I may not be interpreting this correctly, but because they were pissed LVL decided to lose money on a fire sale, getting the (actually great) infamous brand out to a ton of ballers for cheap? I really only see that as a win for Infamous.
Edit: after finishing the video I see the comparison with what Ryan did to you, so I respect their “stand” but still see it as a win for Infamous and an L for LVL. It’s not the same. Infamous didn’t slander them, they went about business as usual, acquiring talent. You did the right thing with hormeses, LVL overreacted
I heard the diss on the podcast and couldnt believe it....who gives a shit what they have to say....no press is ever bad press right!
It's interesting that the president of the NXL is so threatened by me he felt the need to diss me on two shows. The difference is Marcello and Tyler didn't say a negative word. Greenspan decided to shit one with some bold lies.
They picked up Damian Ryan ... he been out of the pro slot, but can help them
I have always looked up to Damian. Conspiracy theories are a lot of fun and sometimes the truth. We've actually had a number of voice calls off the record in recent months 🤝
LVL all the way! Thomas Taylor is a living, breathing troll. 😂
He's had an insanely long career and lives a cleaner life than all of us
It's just a bit to be funny and generate hype for both parties.
I can't pick a side I'm sure there's other things going on that are more low key maybe they had already talked about it and said they won't then did? It's a young team so I can see why it would suck to have the old heads pick your team apart... BUT if you're going to stop carrying a brand go out with a bang! Lol
Petty but whatever, people vote with their wallets
I hope you come back i fw the videos
thanks Joey. Moving is hell. I'm almost all set up
Not Sam, but Jeff Munoz.
quality dude and independent thinker
😂 El jefe 😂
I support Tippman..
Paintball is gay.
Greenspan haterz unite😂😂😂😂
Tom Cole did his dammage control tour and dissed me on two shows. Marcello and Tyler didn't say a single negative thing. Greenspan took a big shot with things that aren't true.
Fair play bro. Air out your laundry i love it
@@WillBallForSoup Greenspan a hoe