Why Hams Need GMRS

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  • @KM4ACK
    @KM4ACK  วันที่ผ่านมา +1

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  • @philc8072
    @philc8072 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    I have my GRMS license.
    I'm running a 50-watt Midland that I've converted to a base station.
    We live in a rural area in Dad, and mom lives right down the street.
    During Hurricane Ian, there were so many trees down I was unable to get down the road to check on my parents.
    The cell towers went down during the hurricane.
    That changed everything for us.
    My stepdaughter lives beside us.
    I bought her a Midland Basecamp.
    I bought my Dad a 15 watt Midland that I converted to a base station.
    The hurricanes since I run my radio in repeater mode and all three houses can talk to each other when the power and conventional coms go down.
    Great way to keep in touch.

  • @TWX1138
    @TWX1138 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

    Been a Technician for over 20 years.
    I got into GMRS so I could hand an FRS radio to non-family, or could hand a GMRS radio to a family member, and we could have push-to-talk communications while roadtripping in multiple cars or while four wheeling out away from cell service.
    I have the GMRS repeaters programmed in, but I'm not using GMRS for the repeaters generally, I'm using it as basically simplex radio for non-hams for sub-mile communications where cell phones either don't have coverage, or where it's harder to use cellular than to use push-to-talk.

  • @BryanDaniel42
    @BryanDaniel42 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +8

    I've got my GMRS license and keep a GMRS handheld in my glovebox in my Jeep. I've been thinking about adding a mobile GMRS radio to my Jeep but I have never actually done it yet.

    • @TWX1138
      @TWX1138 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      I've been looking at both GMRS mobile and CB mobile in addition to my mobile 2m/70cm ham radio. there are a handful of offerings for both where the control head is built into the handmic itself, so there's no need to find dash space for either a radio or a control head. That's probably the direction I'm going to go in if I ever feel the need for an extra service with a mobile install.
      The problem is that mobile GMRS don't get the interstitial channels, so one loses some function while gaining power. I've found FRS/GMRS to be congested so losing those channels is certainly a consideration. It might well be better to buy the most powerful GMRS radio officially considered an HT and using a vehicle-mounted external antenna with decent gain.

  • @jmr
    @jmr วันที่ผ่านมา +6

    We have an amazing GMRS repeater that a company runs on their commercial tower as a public service. Even has backup power.

    • @blackpaw369
      @blackpaw369 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      Wow that is awesome! I live in Florida and as a state I've seen a huge growth like Jason but mostly in central Florida. I'm in north FL and coverage is not that great. I'd love to find a company repeater like you have or setup one of our own.

  • @ka4ezy
    @ka4ezy 23 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

    Totally agree with you on this one. I plan on adding GMRS and MURS to my radio cache this year. I’ve been a ham for over 46 years and had a CB before that ( Still do). Yet, no one else in my family is. I believe we should have capabilities in every radio service we can access legally. 73, de ka4ezy -Mike

  • @oldgeekster1
    @oldgeekster1 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

    Good topic Jason. Single license covering family convinced me a long time ago. 👍👍

  • @dougdaniels
    @dougdaniels วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    I've got my GMRS license and a rig. Carried the radio for a couple months, even commuting back and forth to work, but the only activity in my area is a day care that uses FRS.

    • @jackmortimer329
      @jackmortimer329 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Maybe you need to "talk it up" with co-workers and friends. You could be the GMRS sparkplug in your area.

  • @robertmeyer4744
    @robertmeyer4744 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    Great video ! GMRS is common in the RV industry . FRS shares same channels. I have been using GMRS over 10 years now. The price was higher years back but $35 now. Also their is MURS VHF radios that are 2 watts and can swap antenna and licence free . only 5 CH . Also we use CB . And some old 49 MHZ radios. That band still free but only old radios. I do a lot of camping and we find sometimes VHF works better and sometimes UHF works better. So we just have both. Them Nagoya long GMRS 771 antenna works great and have a MURS version as well . Big improvement over stock antenna. Some of our GMRS repeaters were shut down in NY . Only a few remain. We have our own local 5W GMRS repeater. 12/24V . we have that mic for it but I used the port for repeater ID unit. easy to wire up. Also has the DTS code in ID so others can use it if they hear it. Runs for days on LiFePO4 battery . Height is might on UHF ! 73

  • @BillPfaffenberger
    @BillPfaffenberger วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    Thanks Jason. I have a pair of GMRS HTs on the way. I was convinced that they are a good addition to my radio arsenal after watching videos on how people communicated after the hurricane in North Carolina.

  • @WoodyPhillips
    @WoodyPhillips วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Abosultely spot on. The major resistance I hear is that GMRS users don't behave. In our town, we started a GMRS net that sounds exactly like a 2 meter net. The "problem" GMRS users then started to sound like dweebs and slowly changed their behavior. It took a while, but it worked. Try it. And if it doesn't work, at least your kids can talk to you on a radio.

  • @DanielHallmark
    @DanielHallmark วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    I used to use GMRS/FRS with my kids regularly. We homeschooled during the pandemic and my younger children all got licensed so we now use ham radios, but if we are traveling or going to activities with other family members or friends the GMRS/FRS radios still come in handy for simplex comms. No GMRS repeaters in range of my QTH unless I decide to set one up.

  • @chrissewell1608
    @chrissewell1608 วันที่ผ่านมา +14

    GMRS is the gateway drug to Ham Radio! 😉 📻 💊

    • @KM4ACK
      @KM4ACK  วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      Indeed!

    • @_liquid_wolf_4280
      @_liquid_wolf_4280 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      ive been 2 years gmrs licensed and i tell you what. ive been thinking hard about joining ham. ive even gone so far as to start listening to frequencies with an ATS 25 max decoder .

    • @timbookedtwo2375
      @timbookedtwo2375 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      not CB?

    • @davef5595
      @davef5595 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Yes, if the sad-hams don't chase them away. Sadly, they are a minority, but a very loud minority. I've had my ham licence for almost 20 years and my GMRS for just about 3. But check into any GMRS forum, and it's loaded with arrogant and condescending sad hams. Someone once told me that the sad hams flock to GRMS forums because it's a boost to their ego as they feel GMRSers are inferior..

  • @christophertipton2318
    @christophertipton2318 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    I already have a GMRS Go-Box with a 20W mobile, a roll-up Slim-Jim (an N9TAX also), and several GMRS handhelds with aftermarket antennas, plus a few FRS radios for training my granddaughters to use radios. My eldest daughter and I co-own a house and her 8-year old daughter lives with us too and is in training. I'll be training my son's two girls when they get a little older. He is planning on getting his ham ticket after he finishes his college as CW and HF really caught his fancy when I took him to my clubs Field Day this year. My daughter isn't interested in getting a ham license, but is learning how to use the GMRS since she can piggy-back on my GMRS license. I'm a ham AE and have two VHF-UHF Go-Boxes with 50W mobiles, a bunch of dual-band HTs, and a passel of antennas. HF is next on the toy list. A number of hams in my club also have and use GMRS too.

  • @ke8mattj
    @ke8mattj วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    Exact reason why I got the GMRS license.

  • @BradleyBrown
    @BradleyBrown วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    I totally got a GMRS license for my family, knowing that few of them are interested in studying for a ham radio test. It's been very helpful as we travel and explore Northern Maine. GMRS repeaters are cropping up all over Maine, and Simplex works well enough where the repeaters aren't present. And if we get into a bind, the old man has a Garmin InReach, and I've got my ham kit. :) 73 de KC1JMH / WRAT256

  • @KI4ASK
    @KI4ASK วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Good stuff - Mrs D and I are WRCL957. Very active GMRS community in Georgia, particularly with the NGGMRS group.

  • @t.m2933
    @t.m2933 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Great video. Thank you for sharing. I have both my Technician & GMRS
    KN6PWH/WRDH206....73

  • @SHTFchef
    @SHTFchef วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    I have both a general class license and a GMRS license. GMRS is for chatting with my local buddies, most of whom are not hams.

  • @JimLathan
    @JimLathan วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    I completely agree with you...

  • @ravenandthestranger
    @ravenandthestranger 17 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    One of the best radios that you can use as a repeater and base radio is a Retevis RA87. It has a link mode where you can take two of them and easily connect them together to get the repeater up and running.

  • @Petzel_KZ9ZAP
    @Petzel_KZ9ZAP วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Getting a GMRS license when you're a ham is a no-brainier. The hardest part of the GMRS license is setting up your FRN with the FCC in a separate step, and as a licensed amateur you already have your FRN. I have a GMRS license but I've not yet used GMRS. For $35 it's worth having if I ever want to in the future.

  • @WolfQuantum
    @WolfQuantum วันที่ผ่านมา

    Yep. I have my General ham ticket and have been GMRS licensed for several years. Both have their place and I would love to see a GMRS repeater here in our little border county. Usually, once a year, sometimes twice, the cell tower goes out, and the internet with it. It would be great for licenses families to be able to keep in touch and reach out. Plenty of uses for GMRS and should be part of the comms package. My wife has a GMRS radio in her car and my son has one with his own license. We also use them among some grey hairs around a few neighborhoods to check in when bad weather or phones/internet go out. Bubble packs can talk to the GMRS person with a better radio who can talk to (or be) someone who is both ham and GMRS licensed and they can pass information and requests up the chain.

  • @PhilJohnston
    @PhilJohnston 9 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    Don’t forget the Mars mod will enable GRS listening and sometimes sending on any 2 m 70 cm. It’s nice in a pinch in case you forget your GMRS handy.

  • @ATR_Mid-TN-WX
    @ATR_Mid-TN-WX วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Thank MR km4ack. Hello fellow Tennessee. My family also uses gmrs quite a bit. Thank you for putting gmrs on your channel and not being one those hams. I throughly enjoy your channel. Maybe I can catch you on your local repeater sometime

    • @KM4ACK
      @KM4ACK  วันที่ผ่านมา

      Not sure what part of Mid TN you are in but we might be able to use the Short Mountain GMRS repeater for comms :-)

    • @ATR_Mid-TN-WX
      @ATR_Mid-TN-WX วันที่ผ่านมา

      @ I didn’t know short mountain had gmrs. I do use short mouton 146.910 a lot. I also use Murfreesboro and Lebanon repeater as well. I live 20 miles north cookeville

  • @davidsradioroom9678
    @davidsradioroom9678 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    I would like to get a GMRS radio, but there are no repeaters in my area (central GA). I find little interest in GMRS among hams in this area. Any ideas?

  • @nerdlywehunt
    @nerdlywehunt 22 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    amazon has a black friday special now for $29!!!!!! Ordered one for everyone in the family!

  • @ghostmandka5498
    @ghostmandka5498 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    I live just outside of Atlanta, GA and have all the local repeaters and GMRS frequencies stored in memory in my radios. It’s sad (or not) that when driving around I hear more activity on GMRS than the ham frequencies. We have great ham repeaters in the area (Stone Mountain being one of the widest coverage), so it’s not that. We have spotty APRS coverage and I happen to be in the APRS desert. Too bad we can’t use APRS on GMRS.

    • @KM4ACK
      @KM4ACK  วันที่ผ่านมา

      I don't know that APRS on GMRS is against the rules. Per the website:
      Digital data. GMRS hand-held portable units may transmit digital data containing location information, or requesting location information from one or more other GMRS or FRS units, or containing a brief text message to another specific GMRS or FRS unit.
      www.ecfr.gov/current/title-47/chapter-I/subchapter-D/part-95/subpart-E
      95.1371 D

    • @rbryanhull
      @rbryanhull วันที่ผ่านมา

      You say you're in an aprs desert? Have you considered putting up a digipeater or gateway to fill that hole? I assume you have internet.

  • @ralphnunn3
    @ralphnunn3 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Wait, what? You mean not EVERYONE wants to study for a test, and pay $50 bucks for a ham radio license? Imagine that... All kidding aside, GMRS has been crucial in our family caravans to various locations. It's been very helpful to us.

  • @TerminalElement
    @TerminalElement 13 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    Fantastic info!

  • @justawfulgamer7738
    @justawfulgamer7738 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    I use Ham, CB, gmrs and freeband. Why not?

  • @christophersmith1155
    @christophersmith1155 วันที่ผ่านมา

    do state parks have designated GMRS frequencies ?

  • @jongreen5638
    @jongreen5638 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    I'll go a step farther and propose that GMRS is the baseline capability for anyone concerned about EmComm.
    I use GMRS through a repeater as the contingency portion of our family PACE plan. With a couple of HTs, we can stay in touch with my in-laws, over 25 miles and a hour drive away.

  • @LarryHammock
    @LarryHammock 22 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    The problem is too many people are trying to use gmrs as ham radio it is not the other problem is people are beginning to linked gmrs repeaters which is basically tying up frequencies and making it unusable at all

  • @stevesummersell_K4WXX
    @stevesummersell_K4WXX วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    I’m both Ham and GMRS for the kidos.

  • @va7dgp
    @va7dgp วันที่ผ่านมา

    As far as I know, GMRS here in Canada does not need a licence. I see some Canadian Hams have a USA GMRS licence. I guess one would need a USA post office address.

  • @ChrisRomp
    @ChrisRomp 10 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    Backing up the RV trailer is the only time I can get my wife to touch an HT. 😂

    • @KM4ACK
      @KM4ACK  10 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      @@ChrisRomp 😂😂😂

  • @Liberty4Ever
    @Liberty4Ever 5 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    Pretty much nobody I want to talk to when the SHTF is a ham. :-(
    I recommend GMRS to people who want short range comms without a ham license.

  • @_liquid_wolf_4280
    @_liquid_wolf_4280 วันที่ผ่านมา

    i think u should had tried convencing us gmrs operators to come to ham.

  • @menajemh
    @menajemh วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    we HAMs need everything radio, lol

    • @KM4ACK
      @KM4ACK  วันที่ผ่านมา

      No. We just need all the radio 😂

  • @K4DL-AL
    @K4DL-AL 21 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    I have had a GMRS license twice and both times let it expire due to lack of use in my area. It is simply of no value since no one is using it here.

  • @angelscomputers
    @angelscomputers วันที่ผ่านมา

    EVERY TIME I see videos about those retevis repeaters I always think, it wont be cheaper and better to just get one of those dualbanders that do crossband repeat, mars mod it and put it on a cheap harbor freight pelican style cases? Way cheaper and you get 50 watts instead of whatever watts those retevis put which I cant even find the specs about watts in their website. I am not talking about the legalities, is just that I find them whay to expensive for what it is. Just my 2 cents

    • @KM4ACK
      @KM4ACK  วันที่ผ่านมา

      The GMRS repeaters are not inexpensive. The one I have is 10W but you only get 5W at the antenna. Crossband can have its challenges as well. Some can over heat pretty quick depending on usage and ambient temps.

    • @kevlartv9329
      @kevlartv9329 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Check out Red’s engineering Simplex repeater. Yea it’s got its downsides, but for only $60 I’d say it’s worth looking at. I just got one and plan on testing it out around my hunting camp soon.

  • @DannyNF4J
    @DannyNF4J วันที่ผ่านมา +11

    Jason, I have a ton of respect for you and you’ve helped literally thousands of people. However, the GMRS community in my area is loaded with people of whom refuse to honor the Part 95 and Part 97 rules. From constantly kerchunking the Amateur Repeaters to constantly cursing on the GMRS repeaters, they have alienated more folks than you can imagine. It seems that your followers on here are good, honest people… but those folks in South Alabama leave a lot to be desired when it comes to Integrity. Thanks for another great video 👍👍

    • @TrenchKraft
      @TrenchKraft วันที่ผ่านมา +6

      I have to say, where I am the GMRS repeaters are pretty civilized.

    • @KM4ACK
      @KM4ACK  วันที่ผ่านมา +5

      That's a bummer. I suppose there are some bad actors on all of the frequencies. Thankfully we don't have to deal with any garbage on GMRS here.

    • @mikeacato
      @mikeacato วันที่ผ่านมา +6

      I live about 10 miles north of Jason, so I've also watched our repeaters sprout up over the past 3 years. For what it's worth, I think it helps that there are amateur operators to model good behavior on air. People tend to follow the crowd. It's more difficult to act like a jerk when everyone else is using call signs and good etiquette.

    • @seller559
      @seller559 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

      Don’t throw the baby out with the bath water. GMRS is a great tool, people suck.

    • @Blackcloud41
      @Blackcloud41 16 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      It's not GMRS' fault. The people you're referring to have evident character and integrity flaws. Their conduct is likely awful no matter that they're engaged in.

  • @minierillinoiswatchdog7056
    @minierillinoiswatchdog7056 3 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    Dude you put your wife's glasses on.

  • @moga864
    @moga864 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Have a GMRS call but its never been used.
    The local GMRS repeater system is privately owned and requires a 90$ per yr "membership."
    I use my amateur call instead.
    Great content KM4ACK. I enjoyed it nonetheless. Thanks.

    • @TWX1138
      @TWX1138 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      If you're operating on the GMRS service you really should be using your GMRS callsign. Don't be a ham version of notarubicon.

    • @moga864
      @moga864 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      @@TWX1138 GMRS call has never been used because I won't pay the membership fee to gain access to the rptr group.
      For posterity's sake, I would never use anything other than the call that matches the service in use. What I meant by the statement "I use my amateur call instead" is I use 144/440 FM amateur repeaters when I use radio. In hindsight I should have expressed the idea differently.

    • @kennylyons2835
      @kennylyons2835 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      How do they lock you out of the repeater? I've never heard of such a thing 😂

    • @kennylyons2835
      @kennylyons2835 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Also is that even legal, requiring people to pay to use a repeater?

    • @TWX1138
      @TWX1138 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      @@kennylyons2835 it is private property, they technically are allowed to state that it's for club/private use.
      But that said if someone can figure out their tones they can only change them to prevent use. I doubt that there's even anyone to complain to if someone with a license in the band is using repeaters even if explicitly denied permission.
      A GMRS group near me with what were a bunch of linked repeaters was trying to use proprietary features of part-90 radios to limit who could get their repeaters to open up, but that is a violation of the GMRS service rules since only part-95 radios for GMRS service are officially allowed. Granted, a whole bunch of people use non-GMRS radios on GMRS, but they're not generally advertising that they're doing this. But for a repeater club to do it with fixed-base devices and requiring the use of non-part-95 devices, I expect there would be a greater chance of enforcement against them due to it.

  • @nickl3872
    @nickl3872 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    But hams are better , they passed a multiple choice 35 question test 😂 Stole from randy hahajaj😂

    • @KM4ACK
      @KM4ACK  วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      😂😜

  • @jameskc3oxn976
    @jameskc3oxn976 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    I'm a step ahead of you. I just got one last week because my family isn't into going ham. I think it'll get used. 73 KC3OXN & WSFX424