We've still got a number of such businesses. Look at any large steel mill. Some of my great uncles worked at Northwestern Steel & Wire, which was a small mill as things went, but they were known for taking in steam locomotives sold for scrap, and the owner having them fixed up and used in the mill. They used steam until the owner died...in _1980._
@@SynchroScore Because of the owners actions I am aware that atleast 3 of the locomotives are around, one in a park in Sterling, another in Amboy, and one at the Illinois Railway Museum
@@WesternOhioInterurbanHistory There is also one sitting in the woods in Galt, IL, just west of Sterling, one on display in Independence IA, one stored in Geneva NE, and one on display in St. Paul, MN. The one we have in Union is currently undergoing a cosmetic restoration.
I absolutely _love_ seeing narrow gauge tracks running in the middle of Standard or Broad gauge ones, it just feels so clever to me, and makes so much sense for space, but _yeesh,_ finding images online is oddly annoying to do. Never thought a Brewery would need little trains to move stuff around, but really should've figured :P
There are a few installations of three-rail trackage here and there. I know there's a fair bit in Switzerland where the standard gauge and metre gauge overlap. But four-rail is much more rare.
There is a 4 rail setup (so couplers are aligned for narrow gauges engines to haul normal gauge wagons) at the CFBS heritage railway in France. It is used nowadays for regular (every 4 years) massive gathering of preserved rolling stocks, both narrow (1m) and standard gauge, allowing display and running of everything on the network.
Vegeta, how many locomotives power that locomotive? - Let's see what the scanner says.... HUH!?!.... What is it Vegeta? - This can't be right,... it cant be!!!, the scanner must be broken! How much does the scanner say? - It is... it is... IT IS OVER 9000!!!
I really appreciate these industrial documentaries. Industrial engines and their infrastructure including towers, water systems etc are fascinating and don't receive enough attention
Grain Belt Beer and trains in and out of Milwaukee, Wisconsin are what bring the haulage of beer by train close to home for me. Usually, one would think a private industry would have only one, two or three engines for its own. But I find it amazing that Guinness not only had a good sized roster of narrow and broad gauge engines over time but also built and patented their own unique engine design. That's a good company. And for those out there who also enjoy maritime vessels like myself, there have been special ships and barges that have solely been used for transporting beer and wine.
Not everyone in Ireland drinks, not everyone who drinks drinks beer and not everyone who drinks stout drinks Guinness, people drink Murphys, Beamish, O’ Hara’s single stout, Porterhouse stouts, Dungarvan Blackrock Irish stout you get the picture.
Mr Geoghegan certainly was a smart guy in developing a locomotive which suited all his requirements. A brewery can be an environment with lots of dust from the barley and hops, especially in those days when most of the proces would be open and there was a lot of spillage. Now with pneumatic transport of the ingredients, covered tubs, pipelines for liquid transport and modern filling machines it is a lot cleaner
My Bassett-Lowke Moguls at least run on alcohol. If you distilled beer enough to get to 95% (the highest chemically possible ABV), you could steam them on it.
When Guinness was first established in 1759 it was an ale brewery. Only started being a porter brewery in the 1790’s. The narrow gauge railway system lasted until the late 1970’s, but the broad gauge railway line to Heuston station was closed in 1965. A number of narrow gauge Guinness engines and a broad gauge engine no.3 are preserved.
One of the tank engines (the green on pictured near the end of the vid) is at the talyllyn railway museum. I helped restore that red corris coal truck in the background, some 25 years ago when i was a young volunteer on the railway.
Y’hear that folks? Without trains, Ireland would’ve been a lot less drunk. Also Skarloey used a haulage wagon to take standard gauge wagons to the harbor at Kirk Ronan according to the Reverend W. Awdry.
There's several prototype helix examples, but most of them are in mountainous regions. The Tehachapi loop in California and the spiral tunnels in BC, Canada are some of the best known examples
Leave it to the Irish to make a locomotive specifically for beer. Edit: I'm sorry, leave it to the Irish to make an entire Railway specifically for beer.
One of the most interesting engines I can think of is a natural gas plant locomotive. The example in question is currently on display at Steamtown in Scranton, Pennsylvania. The example had no firebox to avoid an accidental explosion at the plant. Instead of this, pressurized steam was pumped into the locomotive periodically.
Fireless locomotives came in a range of sizes and shapes, some used compressed air (where available) but steam was often readily available as plants usually had boilers anyway
genuinely, someone should make this, not in real life but in, say maybe Roblox or smt, or in a virtual experience, or even though I said not in real life, maybe someone could make a museum of this.great vid.
Greetings Train of Thought guy. Have you considered making a video of the Wolgan Valley Railway? The WVR was a railway to transport shale oil from the middle of nowhere in New South Wales, Australia, to not far from the middle of nowhere, also in NSW. It operated from about 1907 to 1935 and used Shay locos due to the steep grades, impossible terrain and tight curves. It is now a spectacular walking track and includes a long tunnel known for its glow worms. Might be interesting for you.
I was all in for the idea of a steam locomotive powering an unpowered locomotive, but the worlds most annoying steam engine kept me hooked. Keep up the good work man.
Nice. More interesting than Cosmeston's Quarry Railway, which is what I was thinking of watching this. Come to think of it there were a few interesting narrow gauge lines in South Wales. Cosmeston, and then there was the sand quarrying or whatever it was at Porthcawl and also the dual gauge tracks at some of the mines. There might have been a very short line on Barry Dock too but information is difficult to find so I cannot confirm it, just a picture I saw years ago of a short narrow gauge line.
Geoghegan: "All of these engines are terrible to maintain and operate, every time we get a new one it's more trouble than the last!" Steam Engine Manufacturer: " Oh yeah? Why don't you go and make one yourself huh? If you think its so easy!" Geoghegan: "Hold my Guinness." *proceeds to make an objectively better steam engine *
These people were quite on the brink of progress. They were also one of the first to have a formal research and quality control lab. In which a guy named Gosset developed a statistical method. He was not allowed to publish it under his own name, nor refer to his employer, so he used the pseudonym 'Student'. The famous 'Student's t-test has got his name this way. Let all scientist raise the glass to his health :)
It definitely makes me think that Awdry took more inspiration from Irish railways, stories and landscapes in creating the island of Sodor (and its people). Especially mid-Ulster
No price and work too much to get alcohol to get to the societies 😞 So many families, relationships and social good behavior were and are still destroyed by alcoholism and people who can't handle the consume and behavior of them self if they get alkalized... "You" should not be proud about any drinking alcohol producers in any country...
FUN FACToid! Guinness brewery workers were not allowed to intermarry (Catholics and Protestants) until the 1980s, and the very Guinness associated with Irish heritage was actually not just a wealthy family empire but also a strategic tool to subjugate the Irish population from 1759 with alcoholism in parallel with the penal laws etc.
today I learned that the Guinness Book of World Records was started by the people at the Guinness Brewery. I made a quick Google search after seeing the place was the alleged "worlds largest brewery."
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Your Pronouncation is spot on. One note though, there are a total of 6 preserved NG steam engines. No15 ran in preservation for 2 years in Stradbally.
The locomotive powered locomotives? Yeah they tend to do that
Dont know why though..
Can’t guess it
We must go deeper.
coal fired locomotive?
how's locomotive gonna get a job now?
I’ve never been more intrigued.
Lmfao in the words of Hyce and Brent Weibol with a heavy Irish accent, " it's an 0-4-0. With big shoes"
It's an oh-fir-oh!
Truly one of the three quarters of one idiot moments of all time
Truly one of the three quarters of one idiot moment of all time
Truly one of the three quarters of one idiot moment of all time
Truly one of the three quarters of one idiot moments of all time
Honey, I need to borrow your locomotive to power my locomotive.
I never considered that a single business may grow so big as to require and entire multikilometer on-site railway just to function... That's so cool!
We've still got a number of such businesses. Look at any large steel mill. Some of my great uncles worked at Northwestern Steel & Wire, which was a small mill as things went, but they were known for taking in steam locomotives sold for scrap, and the owner having them fixed up and used in the mill. They used steam until the owner died...in _1980._
@@SynchroScore
Because of the owners actions I am aware that atleast 3 of the locomotives are around, one in a park in Sterling, another in Amboy, and one at the Illinois Railway Museum
Ford at Dagenham had a substantial railway.
@@WesternOhioInterurbanHistory There is also one sitting in the woods in Galt, IL, just west of Sterling, one on display in Independence IA, one stored in Geneva NE, and one on display in St. Paul, MN. The one we have in Union is currently undergoing a cosmetic restoration.
St Jame’s Gate was a massive site then and still is.
I absolutely _love_ seeing narrow gauge tracks running in the middle of Standard or Broad gauge ones, it just feels so clever to me, and makes so much sense for space, but _yeesh,_ finding images online is oddly annoying to do. Never thought a Brewery would need little trains to move stuff around, but really should've figured :P
There are a few installations of three-rail trackage here and there. I know there's a fair bit in Switzerland where the standard gauge and metre gauge overlap. But four-rail is much more rare.
There is a 4 rail setup (so couplers are aligned for narrow gauges engines to haul normal gauge wagons) at the CFBS heritage railway in France. It is used nowadays for regular (every 4 years) massive gathering of preserved rolling stocks, both narrow (1m) and standard gauge, allowing display and running of everything on the network.
Ah yes
L O C O M O T I V E P O W E R E D L O C O M O T I V E
hmm yes, the locomotive here is powered powered by locomotive
Vegeta, how many locomotives power that locomotive?
- Let's see what the scanner says.... HUH!?!....
What is it Vegeta?
- This can't be right,... it cant be!!!, the scanner must be broken!
How much does the scanner say?
- It is... it is... IT IS OVER 9000!!!
I really appreciate these industrial documentaries. Industrial engines and their infrastructure including towers, water systems etc are fascinating and don't receive enough attention
There’s a famous quote that goes:
“Oi mate, I need ta get pissed do ye mind makun me a railwae fir me pints”
Grain Belt Beer and trains in and out of Milwaukee, Wisconsin are what bring the haulage of beer by train close to home for me. Usually, one would think a private industry would have only one, two or three engines for its own. But I find it amazing that Guinness not only had a good sized roster of narrow and broad gauge engines over time but also built and patented their own unique engine design. That's a good company. And for those out there who also enjoy maritime vessels like myself, there have been special ships and barges that have solely been used for transporting beer and wine.
I Like Railways And Steam Engines
It was a national necessity. Imagine Irish without their Guinness. It might cause a riot.
Not everyone in Ireland drinks, not everyone who drinks drinks beer and not everyone who drinks stout drinks Guinness, people drink Murphys, Beamish, O’ Hara’s single stout, Porterhouse stouts, Dungarvan Blackrock Irish stout you get the picture.
It’s nice to know that some of these unique locomotives are preserved.
Mr Geoghegan certainly was a smart guy in developing a locomotive which suited all his requirements. A brewery can be an environment with lots of dust from the barley and hops, especially in those days when most of the proces would be open and there was a lot of spillage. Now with pneumatic transport of the ingredients, covered tubs, pipelines for liquid transport and modern filling machines it is a lot cleaner
This would make quite a project for a model railway
What's next a locomotive powered by beer?
Don’t tell him about the moonshine powered locomotive-
My Bassett-Lowke Moguls at least run on alcohol. If you distilled beer enough to get to 95% (the highest chemically possible ABV), you could steam them on it.
You continue to give us more festinating stories, Thank you.
When Guinness was first established in 1759 it was an ale brewery. Only started being a porter brewery in the 1790’s.
The narrow gauge railway system lasted until the late 1970’s, but the broad gauge railway line to Heuston station was closed in 1965. A number of narrow gauge Guinness engines and a broad gauge engine no.3 are preserved.
I think one of the gauge converter wagons can be found at the Amberley Chalk Pits museum.
Oompa, Loompa, doompa-dee-do
I've got a dozen barrels for you
Oompa, Loompa, doompa-dee-day
You have caused confusion and delay
One of the tank engines (the green on pictured near the end of the vid) is at the talyllyn railway museum.
I helped restore that red corris coal truck in the background, some 25 years ago when i was a young volunteer on the railway.
7:00 I almost forgot to bring this up, but has anyone else noticed the chalk face on the Hudswell Clarke?
It's Awesome The Steam Engines Look Amazing
Thanks for the cool history. Gonna crack open a Guinness.
Me too !!!
Y’hear that folks? Without trains, Ireland would’ve been a lot less drunk.
Also Skarloey used a haulage wagon to take standard gauge wagons to the harbor at Kirk Ronan according to the Reverend W. Awdry.
It seems even the spiral helix used by model railroaders (espcially in the US) to reach a higher second level of their layout, has a prototype!
There's several prototype helix examples, but most of them are in mountainous regions.
The Tehachapi loop in California and the spiral tunnels in BC, Canada are some of the best known examples
@@pileofstuff True, i forgot about those...
They really did make an adaptor for narrow Guage to broad Guage locomotives! Astounding history. Thank you
Yay, my video suggestion finally got made into a video.
Of all the jobs to have, driving a steam train around a brewery sound like a very fun one.
I love being Irish 😊 ☘️ but thankfully I am no longer an alcoholic 🙃
Leave it to the Irish to make a locomotive specifically for beer.
Edit: I'm sorry, leave it to the Irish to make an entire Railway specifically for beer.
One of the most interesting engines I can think of is a natural gas plant locomotive. The example in question is currently on display at Steamtown in Scranton, Pennsylvania.
The example had no firebox to avoid an accidental explosion at the plant. Instead of this, pressurized steam was pumped into the locomotive periodically.
Fireless locomotives came in a range of sizes and shapes, some used compressed air (where available) but steam was often readily available as plants usually had boilers anyway
genuinely, someone should make this, not in real life but in, say maybe Roblox or smt, or in a virtual experience, or even though I said not in real life, maybe someone could make a museum of this.great vid.
Greetings Train of Thought guy. Have you considered making a video of the Wolgan Valley Railway? The WVR was a railway to transport shale oil from the middle of nowhere in New South Wales, Australia, to not far from the middle of nowhere, also in NSW. It operated from about 1907 to 1935 and used Shay locos due to the steep grades, impossible terrain and tight curves. It is now a spectacular walking track and includes a long tunnel known for its glow worms. Might be interesting for you.
Id like to see something on the Leek and Manifold railway. The narrow gauge line that pulled standard gauge trucks
This was fun, fascinating and educative to watch. Imagine building a model railway of the brewery trains. How cool would that be ♥
Really cool, I'm glad that there's so many pictures and that they're preserving a few of the engines!
I was all in for the idea of a steam locomotive powering an unpowered locomotive, but the worlds most annoying steam engine kept me hooked. Keep up the good work man.
Can you please make a video of how St Pancras station became a hub for beer trains?
I've been waiting for this to come up in one of your videos- I've always found the idea of Haulage wagons to be SO COOL.
It was great seeing these at the Guinness museum!
If that haulage wagon looks familiar it’s probably cause you’ve seen an edit with Talyllyn in it instead to represent the history of a certain island.
Funnily enough, one of the little guys is at the Narrow Gauge museum in Tywyn
Of course it was Ireland that had a beer train
Nice. More interesting than Cosmeston's Quarry Railway, which is what I was thinking of watching this. Come to think of it there were a few interesting narrow gauge lines in South Wales. Cosmeston, and then there was the sand quarrying or whatever it was at Porthcawl and also the dual gauge tracks at some of the mines. There might have been a very short line on Barry Dock too but information is difficult to find so I cannot confirm it, just a picture I saw years ago of a short narrow gauge line.
Most important railway ever....😁
Hey it lasted almost a hundred years. I'd say that's pretty good for the industrial revolution.
This was quite interesting!
Geoghegan: "All of these engines are terrible to maintain and operate, every time we get a new one it's more trouble than the last!"
Steam Engine Manufacturer: " Oh yeah? Why don't you go and make one yourself huh? If you think its so easy!"
Geoghegan: "Hold my Guinness." *proceeds to make an objectively better steam engine *
These people were quite on the brink of progress. They were also one of the first to have a formal research and quality control lab. In which a guy named Gosset developed a statistical method. He was not allowed to publish it under his own name, nor refer to his employer, so he used the pseudonym 'Student'. The famous 'Student's t-test has got his name this way. Let all scientist raise the glass to his health :)
I can't believe they didn't paint the funnels black with the top few inches light cream... 😁
These are so unique. I want to make one.
Excellent work Train of thought
Interesting video! Cheers!
I saw them in real life, real cuties.
We've narrow gauge No. 22 preserved at the cavan and leitrim railway in Dromod, Co. Leitrim. Minus a boiler
Have a look at the BASS / CORS railway for the bear industry and other industries around in Buringham.
This is something that bender would be happy to work on
Here’s a pint of Guinness for this pub centric train 🚂 🍻
sounds like my kind of train!
For Anyone wondering,
Train Within a train: 5:32
7:00 that is one of the homeliest looking trains I've ever seen.
Wait till you see what WM did to their GP7s and GP9s.
I like this railway
The AB Brewery in STL Mo also has an interesting rail history.
brewery "halve maan" in Bruges had a pipeline installed under the city in the 2000's.
Millennials invented all this.
I'm curious if the same design for the "locomotive powered locomotive" was used for Skarloey in the RWS...
Skarloey Moment
It definitely makes me think that Awdry took more inspiration from Irish railways, stories and landscapes in creating the island of Sodor (and its people).
Especially mid-Ulster
The Irish are amazing people. Steam monorail, and now a beer railway.
Awesome
Elements of road-rail maintenance vehicles \m/
If anyone’s wondering, the music is
Bitters At The Saloon by Bird Creek
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When bro orders exactly one more beer but instead of one more beer a small train with several barrels of the stuff shows up instead
Filling the comically large mug eh?
Why do UK diesels have two tone horns unlike those here in the US?
I Like Steam Engines Thay Are Amazing i Like Railways
drink! chug! arse! 😵💫
also i've been to heuston station, as i live in ireland 👍
I'm wondering why not electric? _If_ the brewery was powered regardless, why not electrify the rail network to begin with?
God I love trains
How about the world's largest model train?
I think they called that "British Rail."
i been there. can still find rails at the site
I didn't know Bill and Ben were Irish😂
What is the music called?
"Bee-awe"
bEER
Now russie need a "built for vodka"
Who else read it as bear
Engerth Locomotive
they could have distilled some alcohol and ran them by burning that. I wonder if it was attempted?
We Irish are too reliant on beer, hence why our country is a mess right now.
Drunk engines 😉🚂
Mmmmmm beer
Ofcourse its ireland
Oh the stereotypes...
It's offensive only if you use it in hate propoganda. Otherwise stereotypes exist for a reason.
Let's leern abaut treins
No price and work too much to get alcohol to get to the societies 😞
So many families, relationships and social good behavior were and are still destroyed by alcoholism and people who can't handle the consume and behavior of them self if they get alkalized...
"You" should not be proud about any drinking alcohol producers in any country...
🚂🍻😋👍
Hi
Unrelated. Why do Northern Irelandees hate Ireland so much?
FUN FACToid!
Guinness brewery workers were not allowed to intermarry (Catholics and Protestants) until the 1980s, and the very Guinness associated with Irish heritage was actually not just a wealthy family empire but also a strategic tool to subjugate the Irish population from 1759 with alcoholism in parallel with the penal laws etc.
today I learned that the Guinness Book of World Records was started by the people at the Guinness Brewery. I made a quick Google search after seeing the place was the alleged "worlds largest brewery."