I have run that same machine out here in Wyoming. Couple of things that are a pain in the ass: 1 winch cable likes to kink up if not wound up with some tension on it, 2 the switch for the saw is a royal pain to change and the switch does go out quite often, 3 to change the chain you have disassemble slot to get the bar and chain off. The longer the log the better for that processor. My son and I got to where we could fill a 6 x 12 dump trailer with 3ft sides in just under an hour
Jake and Chris, how about using log tongs connected to the winch? They can be more quickly repositioned on the log rather than wrapping/unwrapping the chain around the log. The only question then is whether the tongs remain in place when winching the log.
Jake and Chris. Would it be better to have a pointed J hook on the end of the chain and then just use a chain on the leading end of the log ,just wrap the chain over the cable and hook the chain together.
Just based on this video, I feel like this would be best for a homeowner. I feel like it's just on the slow side for processing as a business who sells firewood. A homeowner doesn't need the speed and can take the time to re- set the winch line or re-cycle the pieces to get the size they want. Definitely a nice concept of not needing any extra equipment, but like you said, works for certain applications
As you stated, great for certain applications. Certainly a LOT MORE manual labor and motions than your current setup. But, for someone that just wants to split 4-5 cords of heating wood for the year, probably can get it all done on a nice day or weekend. However, $26K is a huge expense at that level.
Chris & Jake, this is a good informational video, it’s like the old saying goes, don’t give up your old job. By that, I mean don’t give up your EastonMade splitter. I don’t like dragging the logs in the dirt. Why wouldn’t they design a roller system to lay the log on & then winch it into the splitter. I know, the idea of not using a tractor is one of the benefits but time is more important in my opinion & time is money. TY for sharing, Dave D. from Maine.
weld 2 heavy posts to the begining of the infeed ramp , then when a log is off to the side you flip the cable to the far side of the infeed ramp and it pulls the head of the log onto the ramp. there is a video of an old processor that does this. type in fastest firewood processor. its a 60 year old guy with lots of wood machines. its old yellow and has an inverted V blade that lops off logs vertically then uses the blade to advance log when 3/4 of the way thru
Horses for courses guys. Once one man (or woman) got the hang of the whole process,I expect that over a weekend a fair bit of wood could be processed. Practice makes perfect. Good informative video. Cheers from HB NZ
I have one of these, but it does not have an outfeed conveyor. Mine a solid infeed plate instead of the bars. It has its limitations and is terrible for short log lengths. There is definitely a learning curve. For me this machine shines when i go a after a few trees that are full length and don't need any support equipment. Chainsaw, cant hook, chains, etc is all I need even if it doesn't fit through processor, I can block it with chainsaw and use just the splitter. No need to have a separate splitter. It isn't real heavy so it can be pulled with just a pickup truck as I have with a 1st gen tacoma 4cyl. I have also retrieved logs down over a steep embankment with its winch by just adding chains. There are many little tricks for a part time seller to take some of the hard work out of firewood but it definitely will not fit everyone's needs
I think you guys did a very good review. It’s hard to take a brand new setup and make it look stellar on the first run. “That being said”, I feel like conditions have to be pretty much perfect to use a processor like that. It’s a cool design that will have a learning curve but for a one man operation, it sure will cut down on how many times you’re touching the wood- no bending down to pick up rounds is a win in my book.
Good to see Chris again 😊 I like this machine. I think if you used a pickup you could drive this machine to a tree you downed, process it into the bed of the pick up and drive it home. It's not a production machine, but I don't think it was designed to be. It appears easy to use, resplitting is easy given its design. You didn't highlight it, but it looks like wedge swapping is easy. Nice one man capable machine 👍
Cut the chains down to what you think is a more manageable length. Then use an angle grinder to gnarly up the left over chain and attach a couple of sections on the first section of the feed shute. It should knock off "some" the dirt that your bar chain loves so much.🙃
With the Easton Made you can split 4 totes in a hour. But this is without cutting the logs with the chainsaw. It's important to know, how much wood you can split with the Easton Made, when you have to cut the logs first. I think, you can also split only 2 totes in this case.
Yeah if your cutting your own wood and sell a bit of stove wood this machine would be a perfect start to a small business/ hobbiest.. maybe set aside some perfect six way logs and let's see how long it takes to fill the ibc cages if you didn't respit anything..
Like you said, no loader ,would be great for some people. Here in Southwest Montana alot of people burn lodgepole and get it in up to 40 foot lengths delivered in logtruck loads.
Which Firewood Processor will you use for your wood, EastonMade, Japa or Dyna, Chris in the Wood Yard uses the 22MB, Dan Back40 Firewood Uses the Japa 365, Heath and Rachel Hardworking Man are using the Dyna Processor, If you and Chris were to go to the Paul Bunyan this year will get an Opportunity using the 3 Processors at the Paul Bunyan Show in Ohio,
I'm not exactly sure if the machine would be great for the amount of wood smaller guys like myself process, but it would be a nice acreage machine I'd imagine with some practice! Not a fan of the price as some other people have stated lol
I think your first chocker is for one log, while the second hook is to push the log through with a second log, but if you can't lock the first chocker to pull the logs inline with your saw then it's a waste of time, I presume is going to be a little less than a Eastenmade or Wolf Ridge, maybe now I'm doing a dozen cords compared to when we we doing fifty to sixty cords per year but sorry to say not impressed.
I don’t understand why not just have log tongs on the end and not that goofy chain choker that you have to wrestle every log? Or a hookaroon that you do one solid hit with a hammer.
This processor would work better if it could run the winch and the splitter at the same time. Running 8' logs would magnify the main bottleneck of resetting the winch cable for each log.
Hud-son isn't very far from me here in the Adirondacks, I've toured there facilities. OK machines for those who have time and aren't looking for huge production. Put some wood through it. Some people are haters...F them 😂
With seeing this machine, I would say it is more ideal for a homeowner that has some space to store it and only needs to split their own supply, not for a professional like yourself that does the processing as a side business
I don’t think it’s ideal for everyone, especially someone like myself that already has several pieces of “support” equipment. However for someone that doesn’t, or someone who just wants to split a bunch of wood a few times a year I think it has its place.
Appears to work but I think the winch design is way too complicated at addressing the problem. For most people just using a chainsaw to cut the logs into smaller rounds makes more sense.
The Badger is not unique. Wallenstein has made several models similar to the Badger for many years. For the short logs I get, 100in pulpwood length, don't work that well in these. Now if they were nice and long like the eastern states get, so much more practical to use than here.
From what I’ve been told Hud-Son started making this style first, I have seen the Wallensteins and they are very similar. It is definitely ideal for guys who have access to long firewood poles.
I have run that same machine out here in Wyoming. Couple of things that are a pain in the ass: 1 winch cable likes to kink up if not wound up with some tension on it, 2 the switch for the saw is a royal pain to change and the switch does go out quite often, 3 to change the chain you have disassemble slot to get the bar and chain off. The longer the log the better for that processor. My son and I got to where we could fill a 6 x 12 dump trailer with 3ft sides in just under an hour
Yep having long logs is definitely the key!
Welcome back Chris, I was one of those worrying about your appearance on Dude Ranch DIY. You are a major part of this sight
I’m considering getting one used for our new bundle wood venture here in Rhode Island.
Jake and Chris, how about using log tongs connected to the winch? They can be more quickly repositioned on the log rather than wrapping/unwrapping the chain around the log.
The only question then is whether the tongs remain in place when winching the log.
Jake and Chris. Would it be better to have a pointed J hook on the end of the chain and then just use a chain on the leading end of the log ,just wrap the chain over the cable and hook the chain together.
That’s a great idea! I’ll have to try that
great video yall. glad to see big cheese back in videos but happy he is getting the gorg back to her former glory as well!!!
Just based on this video, I feel like this would be best for a homeowner. I feel like it's just on the slow side for processing as a business who sells firewood. A homeowner doesn't need the speed and can take the time to re- set the winch line or re-cycle the pieces to get the size they want. Definitely a nice concept of not needing any extra equipment, but like you said, works for certain applications
As you stated, great for certain applications. Certainly a LOT MORE manual labor and motions than your current setup. But, for someone that just wants to split 4-5 cords of heating wood for the year, probably can get it all done on a nice day or weekend. However, $26K is a huge expense at that level.
Yeah it’s definitely more involved than my current operation, but for someone looking for 1 machine to “do it all” I think this is a viable option.
Chris & Jake, this is a good informational video, it’s like the old saying goes, don’t give up your old job. By that, I mean don’t give up your EastonMade splitter. I don’t like dragging the logs in the dirt. Why wouldn’t they design a roller system to lay the log on & then winch it into the splitter. I know, the idea of not using a tractor is one of the benefits but time is more important in my opinion & time is money. TY for sharing, Dave D. from Maine.
U dnt have to pull the chain through tht choker hook there is a slot in tht choker hook co it can slip between links
weld 2 heavy posts to the begining of the infeed ramp , then when a log is off to the side you flip the cable to the far side of the infeed ramp and it pulls the head of the log onto the ramp. there is a video of an old processor that does this. type in fastest firewood processor. its a 60 year old guy with lots of wood machines. its old yellow and has an inverted V blade that lops off logs vertically then uses the blade to advance log when 3/4 of the way thru
Horses for courses guys. Once one man (or woman) got the hang of the whole process,I expect that over a weekend a fair bit of wood could be processed. Practice makes perfect. Good informative video. Cheers from HB NZ
You get all of the nice toys to try out and it's nice to see smiley (Chris) back.
Thanks for showing this processor!! Not a bad looking machine!! Stay Hydrated and Have a Safe Day
is hud-son on RT 12 NY? central ny?
I have one of these, but it does not have an outfeed conveyor. Mine a solid infeed plate instead of the bars. It has its limitations and is terrible for short log lengths. There is definitely a learning curve. For me this machine shines when i go a after a few trees that are full length and don't need any support equipment. Chainsaw, cant hook, chains, etc is all I need even if it doesn't fit through processor, I can block it with chainsaw and use just the splitter. No need to have a separate splitter. It isn't real heavy so it can be pulled with just a pickup truck as I have with a 1st gen tacoma 4cyl. I have also retrieved logs down over a steep embankment with its winch by just adding chains. There are many little tricks for a part time seller to take some of the hard work out of firewood but it definitely will not fit everyone's needs
Yeah it’s really best suited for long log lengths
6-8’ pieces could be moved to splitter with a hand truck. Maybe something like a hook a room could be used to move the log to the saw. Darryl
Jake and Chris .!! Loving the videos so far. Keep at it fellas. 🦾🧬⚡️
Thank you!
Agree to comments, I could have the bucked up into rounds the time he got it onto the processor. Not that efficient
I think you guys did a very good review. It’s hard to take a brand new setup and make it look stellar on the first run. “That being said”, I feel like conditions have to be pretty much perfect to use a processor like that. It’s a cool design that will have a learning curve but for a one man operation, it sure will cut down on how many times you’re touching the wood- no bending down to pick up rounds is a win in my book.
Yep nothings perfect but it does eliminate the need for any other equipment!
Good to see Chris again 😊 I like this machine. I think if you used a pickup you could drive this machine to a tree you downed, process it into the bed of the pick up and drive it home. It's not a production machine, but I don't think it was designed to be. It appears easy to use, resplitting is easy given its design. You didn't highlight it, but it looks like wedge swapping is easy. Nice one man capable machine 👍
Yep it’s pretty simple no frills, for the right person I think it would be a great alternative to traditional chainsaw and splitter
The local hardware store owner here bought a Hudson, not sure what model but it has a deck.
Instead of bins, 2-3 wheelbarrows could be used by home owner could use. Darryl
Cut the chains down to what you think is a more manageable length. Then use an angle grinder to gnarly up the left over chain and attach a couple of sections on the first section of the feed shute. It should knock off "some" the dirt that your bar chain loves so much.🙃
Try using log tongs with a couple chain links
I said the same thing. Sorry I didn’t notice you already asked my question.
With the Easton Made you can split 4 totes in a hour. But this is without cutting the logs with the chainsaw. It's important to know, how much wood you can split with the Easton Made, when you have to cut the logs first. I think, you can also split only 2 totes in this case.
This is a very good point and one we will be exploring in the future with a comparison video!
Yeah if your cutting your own wood and sell a bit of stove wood this machine would be a perfect start to a small business/ hobbiest.. maybe set aside some perfect six way logs and let's see how long it takes to fill the ibc cages if you didn't respit anything..
I have some good ones in the pile!
Like you said, no loader ,would be great for some people. Here in Southwest Montana alot of people burn lodgepole and get it in up to 40 foot lengths delivered in logtruck loads.
Yep for certain areas and operations I could see this being a good alternative to a lot of support equipment.
Neat to see, but a chainsaw with a box store splitter would be a lot faster and a lot cheaper
Now the firewood is in the bins, a pallet jack $300 can transport over concrete. Darryl
Ps hows about a self clamping grapple instead of the two chains? Cheers
Yeah I think log tongs would make the winching easier
What is the cost on this jake
Needs a box wedge. Also what about just using some log tongs on the end of the cable
Which Firewood Processor will you use for your wood, EastonMade, Japa or Dyna, Chris in the Wood Yard uses the 22MB, Dan Back40 Firewood Uses the Japa 365, Heath and Rachel Hardworking Man are using the Dyna Processor, If you and Chris were to go to the Paul Bunyan this year will get an Opportunity using the 3 Processors at the Paul Bunyan Show in Ohio,
drag the logs through the dirt? maybe a deck riser to feed with tractor
Yeah. Dragging it in the dirt doesn't work for me
hi there well i think it will fit someone else great , best to both john
I think so too, not ideal for my operation
I'm not exactly sure if the machine would be great for the amount of wood smaller guys like myself process, but it would be a nice acreage machine I'd imagine with some practice! Not a fan of the price as some other people have stated lol
Yep definitely not the ideal processor for my operation but unique and cool to try and show for others nonetheless!
Funny I drove through Hudson parking lot yesterday…….
Buying another machine??
I think your first chocker is for one log, while the second hook is to push the log through with a second log, but if you can't lock the first chocker to pull the logs inline with your saw then it's a waste of time, I presume is going to be a little less than a Eastenmade or Wolf Ridge, maybe now I'm doing a dozen cords compared to when we we doing fifty to sixty cords per year but sorry to say not impressed.
I'm pretty sure the chainsaw is belt driven not hydraulic it is on my wolverine which is the smaller version of the badger
You are correct! I misspoke!
I don’t understand why not just have log tongs on the end and not that goofy chain choker that you have to wrestle every log? Or a hookaroon that you do one solid hit with a hammer.
This processor would work better if it could run the winch and the splitter at the same time. Running 8' logs would magnify the main bottleneck of resetting the winch cable for each log.
You can run the winch, splitter, and saw simultaneously
What's the max diameter log can it handle?🤠
18”
@@DudeRanchDIY thank you.
Hud-son isn't very far from me here in the Adirondacks, I've toured there facilities. OK machines for those who have time and aren't looking for huge production. Put some wood through it. Some people are haters...F them 😂
Yep it’s not ideal for every operation but certainly unique and cool to try out!
With seeing this machine, I would say it is more ideal for a homeowner that has some space to store it and only needs to split their own supply, not for a professional like yourself that does the processing as a side business
I don’t think it’s ideal for everyone, especially someone like myself that already has several pieces of “support” equipment. However for someone that doesn’t, or someone who just wants to split a bunch of wood a few times a year I think it has its place.
👍
Its a copie of a wallenstein processor.
Appears to work but I think the winch design is way too complicated at addressing the problem. For most people just using a chainsaw to cut the logs into smaller rounds makes more sense.
Yeah the winch design is a little “bulky” but I think it could be changed a bit to make it simpler to use.
The Badger is not unique. Wallenstein has made several models similar to the Badger for many years. For the short logs I get, 100in pulpwood length, don't work that well in these. Now if they were nice and long like the eastern states get, so much more practical to use than here.
From what I’ve been told Hud-Son started making this style first, I have seen the Wallensteins and they are very similar. It is definitely ideal for guys who have access to long firewood poles.
In the promised land of compensation challenges, unsafe machines are manufactured. I don't understand that.
Using a rocket stove is still the cheapest way to cook.
Not for me. But,if you have a lot time, why not.
Yep not ideal for everyone but cool to try out!
Not very impressive, I think it would have been quicker with a decent chainsaw and log splitter
not impressed with that set up
Definitely not for everyone including me, you need access to long log lengths to make it efficient, then i bet it’s a beast.
not impressed with this machine