Screened Porch | Week 4
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- I installed the lattice around the base of the deck. We set all the posts and beams for the roof. I framed and installed all the rafters for the roof. We installed the plywood roof deck and I installed the composite roof felt.
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This video reaffirms my distaste for lattice.
I’ll tell you what I’ve just recently decided to purchase my first cordless circular saw and just like you I’ve been able to make it see much use at the job. I was hesitant about how much power they’d have but man they seem to be a huge time saver for small odds and ends
Totally agree with you. Their convenience is huge and it has enough power for most things you'll need on the average day. Thanks for watching and glad you enjoyed watching.
I hate cords. Infact I used to use my impact to hang drywall simply because I hated cords. Still needed to plug up a zip but whatever. I been went cordless as they were first coming out with all that shit lol
I use mostly cordless tools for everything now and love it. Their convenience is huge and I find that I only use corded tools on large projects.
I watched it all the way to the end.Amazing I love your ability to work by yourself.
Thank you so much. I enjoy working alone as it lets me control my pace. Thanks for the comment
Nice work !
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Good job
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Nice job!!
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Nice job
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Love your backyard, it's beautiful.
It's a nice property, but, it's my customers house. Thank you for watching
Great job looks really good,
Thank you
18:30 I'm scratching my head about how your shallow cuts for the high side of those roof rafters came to be calculated. Gonna watch to the end to see how you bridge the resulting gap, since you obviously planned it. But if you had to do it over again, why not have those rafters "sitting on" the existing roof as much as possible?
Thanks for watching
This series has been super helpful as I begin to tackle my own screen porch project, thanks! Quick question (sorry if I missed you explaining it) - did you do any sealing of the small cracks between the brick and wood connection to the house? I have a brick house that I'm attaching to so trying to figure out if I should spray some insulation in there to keep bugs out.
I did not do that on this job, but, certainly you could seal up to limit bug entry. Could even use sill seal behind the post that may be easier than foaming it. Glad you enjoyed watching and thank you.
How much wood did you need just to frame the walls for the enclosure, don't need the roof info, just going to attach it under the soffit?
Don't remember exactly, but, would guess 16 4x4's and 15 2x4's. It's been so long I just can't remember the exact count. Of course both of those would be pressure treated and don't forget the plywood as well. You'll need plywood for the exterior and then whatever you want for the interior finish... Potentially plywood as well in this example (t1-11). Thanks for watching
Good video I learned a lot!
I also have a question since I want to build something similar over my cement patio. My home has a jettying floor over the walk out basement, a 16 ft section protruding out 18" . RIght below it there's a door that leads to the cement patio. There's a large window about 10 ft wide 1 foot over the ft over the top main floor.
I think it would be as simple enough to attach a ledger board to the vinyl siding under the window and run the rafters off that to 3 posts on the other side. How to attach the ledger board to the house? I am wondering if there is a way to locate the studs without removing the siding. I don't know if I am making sense here 😕..any advicewouldbe great. And again thank you for your videos!
It sounds like you have a cantilevered floor with a 18" overhang and want to attach a deck ledger. You normally cannot "hang" a deck off of an overhang. You will need a beam underneath to support the deck close to your house. It should be within the cantilever limit of whatever size joists you are going to use for the deck...if that makes sense. The footers for this beam need to be on undisturbed soil, but, since you have a walkout basement this shouldn't be an issue. You will still attach a "ledger" to the house, but, it will only be used as a stabilizer and nailer. Don't forget to remove that siding first and attach the board directly to the framing. Afterwards install the siding around the leader board and use drip cap.
You could make the outer rim board a beam and use posts to support as you described. That is the easy part. Thanks for watching and also commenting. I wish you the best on your project. If you have any questions I'd be glad to help you.
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It would be just a cover, not a deck. But sounds like I may need to hire a pro for that so that the winter here in Michigan won't make the thing collapse! Great videos man!
My mistake.... The hardest part of the job is that you normally can't support a ledger, even for a roof, off of a cantilevered floor. If you got an engineer's approval than your inspector would be fine with it. Hope that helps. Thanks
Did you use treated 2x10 for the band around or just the post we’re treated?
I used treated lumber for the beam above the walls. For all the roof framing regular framing lumber was used. Thanks for watching
Mind if I ask, do you use pressure treated for the roof rafters? (Theoretically won't ever get wet)?
In this I did use treated wood for the rafters. You are correct that I could have used framing lumber for the rafters. The customer asked me to use them for the look from below. Thanks for watching
@@horstcarpentry thanks for the reply . I really enjoy your videos, keep 'em coming!!
Just wondering why you used 4x4 for the walls and not 2x4 studs?
The 4 x 4 will show above the knee wall and the homeowner preferred it.
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next time strip the shingles first and dont need the 2x12 across the roof and use lags to attach new rafters to existing then you have a smooth transition
831vtc t2 I’m surprised he didn’t do that. I thought it was code.
He did roof wrong way.
what's that deck skirting called?
I'm not exactly sure what you're referring to because I ended up framing a knee wall and installing T1-11 to the outside. Message me a little more information about what part you're referring to and I'll try to answer you. Thanks
@@horstcarpentry the cross pattern that keeps animals from getting under the deck
That's sounds like the lattice that I installed on the lower section of the deck. They sell lattice in 4ft x 8ft pieces or sometimes smaller depending on the store. You can get in vinyl / composite materials as well if you are building with non wood based decks. Let me know if you have any other questions
@@horstcarpentry That's what I was looking for, thank you!
You're very welcome. I'm glad you enjoyed watching
In the south we call the trim at the top of the brick wall a Frieze board. woodshms.com/wp/%20/frieze-board/. I like this build. I need to do one of these at my humble abode, If I ever get a minute.
I often think the right word and my mouth says a different word. I meant to say frieze board haha😎
Para que te quede mejor tienes que cortar la cornisa para que se mire bonito lo que dejaste adentro la cornisa se ve feo
He has a bee nest in the wall! Bet they are dead now! Lol
I would of cut into my roof and hooked into the rafters
What if your trusses/rafters are 24"oc and your porch rafters are 16"oc?
@@horstcarpentry How about strip roof down further and support closer to eave. Shorten span enough to go 24 in oc
That's literally my only small gripe so far in the series, looks awesome great job
I hear ya but that was just not part of the scope of the project. Could've opened up roof above wall and framed up to support joists...i get that, but, the customer wanted to keep costs low.
Thank you I'm glad you liked how it turned out and thanks for watching
Simpson strong ties or Simpson crap on your deck will kill you eventually it'll rust the disaster waiting to happen that s*** rust and creates water get rid of that s***
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Its not solid the structure
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Four weeks for that bullshit. Man that's weak af
Holly shiiit man are you building helicopter platform for leading ? lol , you're uesing too much wood man lol
Better overbuilt than underbuilt 😂
Thanks for the comment. Glad you enjoyed the job
What's your price range in this type of endeavor? Just curious .
The cost of the porch work was 17.5k in early 2019. This would probably be considerably higher now with the increase in material pricing. I've also been told that my pricing is low. I hope this helps you. Thanks for the comment
can someone please explain how to measure this sharp rafter angles if the other end has a birds mouth? how to measure so both sides fit?
If I'm remembering correctly you make the plumb cut of the angle for the new roof and then using a speed square from the top surface pivot out the remainder from 90(deg) the existing roof pitch. So, if the existing roof is 4/12 then angle away from you to 71.5deg. I don't do this frequently enough, but, im pretty sure that is the way. Every time I have to do this it takes awhile for it to come back to me. I hope this is helpful
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Thank you so much. I appreciate the subscription and glad you enjoyed the job.
It would be great if there was a carpenter out there that would post a video doing exactly what's being done here, and using the imperical method
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I like the post and beam framing!
I definitely don't ever want to be one of those guy who tells ya how to do things, but in Colorado they only require you to have the heel of those rafters resting on that sleeper/ roof ledger.. so you can notch the heel for the 2x10 sleeper but leave the rest of the tapered cut dropped down 1.5" on the diagonal
I understand, thanks. I'll talk to an inspector next time I get an inspection.
The board laying flat on the roof, did you screw/nail that down to the shingles/roofing plywood?
Yes I nailed it down to the roof deck. Thanks for watching
Nice!
The two boards you set up with a string to find your 2:12 pitch was the small one identifying the width of your rafters? And how how did you measure the other long board I seen u were marking it with a speed square
The small board at the beam accounted for the height of the rafter after the notch would be cut out. I carefully leveled the other board and once I had the string to mark it I used a speed square to get the angle. It gets you pretty close to the angle you need, but, you'll always have to adjust using a pattern rafter to start. Thanks for watching
Very Nice Job!!!
Thank you and thanks for watching
I wanted to thank you so much for the amazing videos. I watched those Screened Porch videos multiple times and I am trying to build something very similar. I have a question; how did you find the angle of the tapers on your rafters? That long taper goes on the existing roof with a 2 12 pitch on your porch roof? Thank you!
Thank you so much and you're welcome. I'm glad the videos could help you out. The small angle cut should be 90 degrees less your existing roof angle from a plumb cut mark on your rafter. For example if your existing roof is 4/12 (18.5 roughly) then, from a plumb mark for what your new roof pitch, pivot in 71.5 to the plumb mark and then mark that long angle. I hope this helps and good luck with your project. Thanks for watching
Great build, can you tell me what size the beams are 2x10 or 2x12?
The beams are 2 x 10's. Thanks for watching and I'm glad you enjoyed the job
Framing is so Enjoyable, Especially Decks...Building a Deck is basically Lego's for Adults...
I totally agree with you. It's fun and you feel very accomplished at the end of the day. Thanks for the comment
If it is water leak will go through the woods and rots the rafters. You need to show how you sealed the ntop of the roof next to the roofing board.
You indicated that you screwed the first post into the 2x6 decking. Is that all to secure the post? No anchors (like Titan 6x6 wood anchor) and such? Should one be concerned about lateral and uplift load? Enjoyed your videos. Thanks.
The posts are stacked over the beam and will have a knee wall framed with sheathing. I can't see that going anywhere. I can't remember if I through timberloks into the post, but, couldn't hurt. As far as what an inspector would ask for....I once had one ask me to toss some timberloks into the top where it meets the beam, but, never at the base. Again probably wouldn't be a bad idea. Thanks
I wonder how much money I have to spend to get my screened in porch done
Something like this should cost roughly $15 - $21k.
I don't think wood directly on the ground would last as long.
It won't last forever that is true. Thanks for watching
@@horstcarpentry I'm no carpenter, but correct me if I'm wrong. If you put the wood on cement pillars it will last twice as long if not longer.
If you're referring to the footers for the deck than yes you're right. It will last a long time with concrete footers that come up and end just above grade. However, there is a cost to doing it that way and the homeowner wanted to keep costs low. Building code where I am allows for footers of 10" with posts below grade.
Good job 👍👍👍👌
Que bonita se ven las casas de mentiras. Pero. Tu travako es genial. Tu travajo lo valoro pero. Las casas de madera no son mis favorita
Gracias
You're a hard worker for building the porch and doing all this video editing/solo camerawork to be able to share your experience with others. I appreciate your narration too. You answered a lot of my questions as I am about to start building a screened porch for the first time. Question, did you use lag screws to secure the two doubleheader beams to each other at 90 degrees? Keep the videos coming!
I did not secure the joints with lags, but, installed Simpson corner brackets where they met. I'm trying to maintain videos, but, right now I'm working every single day and it's hard to sit down and edit. Thanks for commenting and following along with the job. I'm glad you enjoyed the series
Is there any reason why people use 2x6 for roof? as no weight one it...
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I don't think I will go under with those posts just nailed to the deck to me they aren't secure enough
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So...don't go near any walls in your house.
Good job on your videos. Nice to see everything.
Thanks and glad you enjoyed the job
how do you connect the posts to the deck? Just screw in at a 45?
The posts sit on top of the decking and also directly over top of the beam....that is the most important aspect of the build. Yes, I toe screwed them down through the decking and then into the beam. You can use long screws or timberloks. Thanks for watching
Nice
Thank you and thanks for watching
Did you just toe nail the posts into the deck floor?
I toe screwed them down into the deck. Thanks for watching
That bow is called a crown.
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So your 2 side beams are basically cantilevered into the main beam with a corner bracket connector? Are the 2 beams resting on the corner post any? 1/2 inch?
They are woven into the front beam. The outer board bears 2" on the post and the inner is only bearing 1/2". Truly the side beams are there just to maintain the look. Thanks for watching
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Oh yeah, ok. Also, can you explain how you fasten the beams to the posts? Are they just toenailed in and does that meet code for lateral movement etc? Thanks so much
They were toe-screwed together with timberloks. I've never had an inspector ask for plating or straping to reinforce to joint, but, I'm sure it would be preferred. In this instance it would be visible, so, I didn't use anything or than the screws.
Really great tutorial. Thanks for explaining so much good info.
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Oh yes looking good you're doing pretty good did look up pretty good
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Fantastic work buddy really enjoyed watching Tks.
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That's some bad ass work for a one Man Crew!👍🤟👌
Thank you
Great video. I am having issue with putting up a patio on concrete against wall of the house. I am using metal sales as roof material. However, it is hard to SQUARE the drafts of the patio roof with the metal sales. I used the 345 rule to try to square the patio draft but failed many times. How can I do that properly? Thanks. B.
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I guess you are not in a place that gets snow.
Not that much
Thank you for the video! I’m looking to have a 20x20 screened in porch.
You're welcome and I hope your porch turns out well. Thanks for watching
I have a question, im watching this video because im also building a screened in porch. the problem is right in the center is a chimney. How would i attach the joist to the chimney?
Probably would need to use a anchor bolt into a mortar line. I wouldn't want to support it off of the chimney though. You would need to frame your roof up to the chimney and then overframe from the chimney back. That would be a little complicated. Hope this info helps you and thanks for watching
@@horstcarpentry the chimney is actually siding. Not sure what type of framing is under the siding though
Gotcha. Your problem is going to be where you can support your ridge or roof beam. If you can stack it down to a load point then you'll be fine, but, you will still need to frame the roof up to the chimney and then overframe all the rest ( fill in ). The roof ridge or beam will support only the roof up to the chimney and from there back it'll be filled in strictly to support the roof deck. Hope that makes sense
Horst Carpentry I believe so! And thank you for the advice
You're welcome
Awesome!
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Hi what screws are you using?????
Deckmate deck screws. Thanks for watching
Square work!
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Does it have to be connected to the house?
Do you mean the roof? I guess you could build something freestanding and it would not be connected, but, for a deck / porch like this and a roof like this then yes it does have to be connected to the house. Thanks for watching
I have a two story house with pre-existing deck. I am looking for ideas how to build something similar onto it. Trying to avoid attaching it to house which requires a permit.
You could make a shed roof that goes side to side and that would avoid attaching it to your house. Hopefully that helps you and again thanks for watching
@@horstcarpentry Ill check it out, thanks!
Great work 🌾📽️🙏
Thank you so much. I'm glad you enjoyed watching
As a skilled carpenter of 40 years experience. This guys DYI porch roof isn't the correct way of building the project.
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What size door?
The door was a 36" screen door. Thanks for watching
Good job! When do you think it will be finished and on to another project?
The secret is that I'm already done. Been so busy having a hard time knocking out the videos.
Nice work 👍
I'm glad you enjoyed watching. Thanks
So, this is a general question and any input from anyone reading this would be helpful. I am an amateur, but I have learned how to do A LOT of things watching videos on youtube and I have been extremely happy with how things have turned out. I would like to put roof over my existing deck. The deck is about twenty years old and is supported by 6x6s. It is in very good shape, as I have kept up the maintenance on it over the years. I would like to put a roof over my deck measuring approximately 15-18 feet wide by 12 feet deep. Can I put support beams right on top of my deck that are directly over the original support beams, so that they butt up to each other? Also, what would be appropriate an ledger size for this (2X10, 2X12, etc).
The most important thing is that all of your loads stack. Any posts that support your roof beam, just like in this clip, must be stacked on top of your deck support beam AND on top of the 6 x 6's that support it. If you have a deck with a cantilever ( beam underneath framing and "set back" ) then this creates an issue because you cannot place roof loads out on the cantilever. If you have a rim beam, like in this build, then you can frame the load directly over top. The ledge size will be dictated by what rafter size you need to use. I would do a 2 x 10 rafter @ 24" and use a 2 x 12 ledge so that after your plumb cut it will still fit on the ledge. Thanks for watching and enjoy your project
@@horstcarpentry Thank you very much for the response. Very helpful. I do have a cantilever, but I am pretty sure I can construct it so that the 6x6s for the roof sit directly on top of the 6x6s for the deck.
Good 1007%
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Good video
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Great Job!
Thank you
I enjoyed watching it!...
Thank you very much
How many posts and beams did you use?
Looking good!
Thanks and glad you're enjoying the series
Materials list?
Sorry, that job was three years ago
Get a can of brake cleaner next time for bees or any kind of bug kills them instantly unlike the weak bug spray.
Thanks I'll do that and glad you enjoyed watching
i was just watching ppls court and the guy said he watched youtube vids to see how to build a deck. he lost the cae cause the threas for the stairs were off. nothing was to code. how do you knnow any of this that you are saying is good?
I've built many decks over the last 13 years so I have a good idea of code and what is needed. I've also built additions and even houses so I feel confident in what I do
@@horstcarpentry ok. i wasnt questioning your skills per say. i was questioning the youtube thing cause many ppl get their skills by watching vids here. i hope if i ever need a contractor they are legit.
Looking good, deck came out great. You are a beast especially the brooming lol.
Thanks lol. They always love when I show the clean up. It's coming along nicely.
Hood job bro! Is it ok to nail the board to the roof though? Just want to make sure before I try it....
I've had a bunch of people comment about this, but, I've always done it that way myself. Just be aware that you need to plan for rain, so, try to get a stretch of nice days. Thanks for watching
@@horstcarpentry I appreciate it bro! Keep up the good work man!
You're welcome
Did I miss it? At what center point did you install the rafters?
Sorry I'm not sure what you're referring to. It's been a year since I did this job. Can you refresh my memory? Thanks
Its amazing how u know to complicate work to youself and also getting done in wrong way and make construction weaker. But anyway, nice project.
P. S U should ask someone about code's.
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