2024 Trek Supercaliber Review | A Striking & Deadly Efficient Short-Travel XC Race Bike

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  • For 2024 the Trek Supercaliber has been completely overhauled with two new carbon frames, an increase in travel and a redesigned IsoStrut. Having spent a load of time on the previous version, we were eager to see how all the changes played out on the trail, and how the new Supercaliber would compare to the best XC bikes currently on the market.
    See the full review right here: flowmountainbike.com/tests/tr...
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    Trek Supercaliber Video Review Contents
    0:00 - Trek Supercaliber Overview
    0:48 - Frame & Suspension Design
    1:27 - New IsoStrut SIDLuxe Shock
    2:19 - Geometry & Sizing
    2:55 - Trek Supercaliber Price & Specs
    3:06 - Trek Supercaliber SLR 9.8 GX AXS
    3:39 - Trek Supercaliber Weight
    4:27 - Servicing The IsoStrut
    5:08 - Strengths
    7:12 - Weaknesses
    8:12 - Component Highs & Lows
    9:58 - Trek Supercaliber vs Specialized Epic World Cup
    10:33 - Flow's Verdict
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  • @MrSpecialized75
    @MrSpecialized75 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +57

    It's the gravel bike winner of 2028😅

  • @johnlesoudeur3653
    @johnlesoudeur3653 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

    Gen 3, Fox isostrut 100mm, Fork 120mm, threaded BB, 100 gms lighter. Twice as expensive. Start saving now.

  • @sauronbaggins1833
    @sauronbaggins1833 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    This channel deserves a lot more subscribers. Happy New Year, Wil!.

  • @eriotero8397
    @eriotero8397 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Great content, here in the DR there is quite of good amount of XC riders that are ordering this new supercaliber, the amount of unit sold here really impress me, this XC bike is gorgeous in person and the 9.9 in gray color looks amazing

  • @matthewleppan1020
    @matthewleppan1020 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Been waiting for this video!

  • @fpartidafpartida
    @fpartidafpartida 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

    The knock block saved my bike (and probably hand damage) on my previous version.

  • @tomassanesson902
    @tomassanesson902 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Awesome bike

  • @ignaciosevil2157
    @ignaciosevil2157 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    amazing vid... ive been suffering with putting the wheels on with that tubeless tape, its so bad i just take it to the mechanic

    • @chadwells7562
      @chadwells7562 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I had this problem with road Jet RC6 wheels and Continental tires, I just gave up entirely and switched tire brands even though the Contis are fantastic

    • @ignaciosevil2157
      @ignaciosevil2157 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      so its not a bontragger thing or a trek tubeless tape thing. its a reallly bad issue because it wont permit you to put a spare tube in case of emergency. its a fully commited tubeless setup @@chadwells7562

  • @brucehumphries6889
    @brucehumphries6889 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    How’s it compare to the new Mach4SL

  • @jessezarate6571
    @jessezarate6571 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Do you think this bike could be used for longer events like 100km and 200km events? Seems like with tires choice, could be quite capable. Thanks!

  • @EPoel-vg8ci
    @EPoel-vg8ci 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I have the 2023 and i love it. i dont need 80mm and 110 travel

  • @hanf022
    @hanf022 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    The bike looks cool, but to be honest, the prices are unbelievable crazy.
    10k for such a casual bike?
    Has some cool features, but I don't think it's worth so much in material cost.
    How much is the real value of the bike?

    • @luchocatano1772
      @luchocatano1772 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Here in Colombia it cost 7000usd

    • @sauronbaggins1833
      @sauronbaggins1833 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@luchocatano1772Is not about what it costs in a country, but the country’s purchasing power.

    • @MrWolf2212
      @MrWolf2212 หลายเดือนก่อน

      what else would you get for this price?

  • @johnmackenzie1831
    @johnmackenzie1831 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Your comparison between this and the Epic WC is rather different to James Huang’s, interesting… Can you actually put regular rim tape on those Bontrager wheels?

    • @FlowMountainBikeYouTube
      @FlowMountainBikeYouTube  9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      You certainly can! I haven't done it myself, but I understand both the Line and Kovee wheels are able to run either TLR rim strips or standard tubeless tape. I've been testing a Kovee RSL wheelset lately that comes fitted with tubeless tape from the factory and have had no issues with tyre fit.
      Interesting about James' review - I'll have to find it and check it out! [Wil]

    • @slimjim4ever
      @slimjim4ever 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I’ve owned few Kovee XXX wheelset & I saved more than 100g by removing heavy plastic strips & taping them.

    • @alumal
      @alumal 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@slimjim4everis really light this wheels? I’m thinking to buy a pair for use in my Super Caliber gen 1, honestly I’ve not seen advantages to move for the gen 2…

    • @slimjim4ever
      @slimjim4ever 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@alumal Kovee XXX wheels are rated at 1290g that’s naked weight without valve stems or rim strip/tape. I’ve had couple of Kovee XXX wheelset and they all ranged from 1310-1350g so slightly heavier than advertised but was still way under 1400g taped with valves (ranged 1349g-1390g). Newer Kovee RSL said to be 1199g were 1240g on my scale taped with valves. I rode them once but didn’t like how they flexed around too much. As for the Supercaliber Gen 2 I haven’t rode one yet but from those close friends of mine who own one their honest opinion was that they couldn’t really tell much difference. One of the guy told me if he didn’t know gen 2 existed and he got on one he wouldn’t have been able to tell the difference. I get it with slacker head angle and slightly longer front end but that can be achieved by getting slacker headset & buying a bigger size. Also the rear travel 60-80 doesn’t seem like much improvement. Maybe if they made it legit 100 travel things might feel different. Anyway I’m waiting around to see if I can get just the frame for a deal so I can just transfer everything over. But then again I don’t see a point unless I get the frame for really cheap

    • @frankschock9981
      @frankschock9981 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@slimjim4everI was considering a bike with the RSL wheels. I was hoping they'd have the comfort of aluminum wheels while being super light. What's your weight?

  • @user-is7dp7br7n
    @user-is7dp7br7n 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    My son is currently in a Large SuperCal gen 1 and Gen 2 geo looks longer but seat tube is shorter and he's growing, In this bike do you think we should size up to an XL or stay in a Lg

    • @FlowMountainBikeYouTube
      @FlowMountainBikeYouTube  6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Sizing is always a tricky question with growing young riders!
      The Gen 2 Supercaliber is definitely a bigger feeling bike than the Gen 1, so chances are the Large in the new bike will suit him well.
      I guess the question is around how much more he'll grow, but also what he wants out of the bike. If he's very flexible and is focussed on high-level racing, having a slightly smaller bike that offers a lower front end will be appealing. But if he prefers a less aggressive riding position and is doing more all-round riding and racing on it, the slightly longer/bigger bike may be preferable from a stability perspective.
      I'm not sure if that helps answer the question, but just sing out if you've got any more!
      [Wil]

  • @Peaceman5790
    @Peaceman5790 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Hi guys, I was wondering how the Gen 2 model compares to the Gen 1 that you modified with a 120mm fork, Bike yoke dropper & wider bars?
    I am currently riding/racing a gen 1 and am weighing up wether to just put on a longer fork (Fox 34SC 110 which I already have) or suck it up and go with the new ($5,000) frame.
    I really like the bike for its efficiency and awesome climbing capacity but its definitely not the most confidence inspiring in high speed tech/descending. The main reason I want to put on the bigger fork is not really for the increased travel but more just to slacken it out a bit, raise the bb & lengthen the wheelbase for a bit more stability.
    Would appreciate your thoughts, thanks.

    • @FlowMountainBikeYouTube
      @FlowMountainBikeYouTube  3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      That's a great question! I think if you're already happy with your current Gen 1, but are looking for a bit more confidence on the descents, upgrading to the bigger Fox 34 SC fork would be a great move.
      The rear suspension on the Gen 2 Supercaliber is a little smoother, and the 2.4in tyres certainly help with grip and comfort. But it's still a pretty firm and race-focussed bike and isn't a night/day difference over the Gen 1 frame.
      If you already have the Fox 34 SC fork, try it out on the Gen 1 bike and see how it goes. I found it was a great upgrade, particularly with the wider bars and dropper post.
      [Wil]

    • @Peaceman5790
      @Peaceman5790 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Hey Wil, thanks for getting back to me, I really appreciate the feedback. I’m already running 2.4” Scorpions (no clearance issues) and a dropper so hopefully the bigger fork will be the final piece of the puzzle. Your in-depth bike & component reviews are, IMHO, the benchmark. Keep up the good work ✌@@FlowMountainBikeTH-cam

    • @FlowMountainBikeYouTube
      @FlowMountainBikeYouTube  3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Awesome mate, thank you for the feedback! Glad you appreciate the reviews and good luck with the upgrades on the Supercal! [Wil]

  • @MMartins92
    @MMartins92 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    So many grams over the announced!! Kovee should be the Elite one's, right? not the Pro

  • @rynhadn13
    @rynhadn13 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Weird i bought one and mine was 7500 and it’s 24 pounds right now. I have some things to upgrade on it like wheels and forth to get another pound and a half or two pounds off of it. :-)

  • @hudsonlucier7646
    @hudsonlucier7646 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Can we get a trek slash review

  • @conerMT
    @conerMT หลายเดือนก่อน

    Orbea oiz vs trek Supercaliber who better?😀

  • @robwhite1359
    @robwhite1359 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    What full suspension bike is better than the super caliber?

    • @FlowMountainBikeYouTube
      @FlowMountainBikeYouTube  7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Good question!
      I recently put together a big group test on the top-9 XC bikes (including the Supercaliber) that you might enjoy; flowmountainbike.com/tests/best-xc-bikes-cross-country/
      [Wil]

  • @paulwojcik1920
    @paulwojcik1920 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Any issues with the seat stays on version 2? I cracked 2 rear triangles on separate occasions

    • @MrSpecialized75
      @MrSpecialized75 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      It's funny how no reviewers ever want to talk about this. It's not uncommon!

    • @FlowMountainBikeYouTube
      @FlowMountainBikeYouTube  9 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      No issues with our test bike so far. I spent about six months on the previous generation model back in 2021 and didn't have any problems there either.
      On the note of the Gen 1 frame; when it was first released in 2019 it had a claimed weight of 1,933g including the shock. Then for 2021 Trek made a rolling change to the swingarm to introduce UDH compatibility. With the new swingarm the claimed weight for the frame and shock went up to 2,150g. Based on that, we can assume that the redesigned swingarm added 217g of material over the original version.
      I found this out after speaking with Trek about the weight of the Gen 2 Supercaliber frame and how it is supposedly lighter than the old frame. That isn't the case when you compare it to the original version that launched in 2019 - in fact the new Gen 2 frame is heavier (1,950g vs 1,933g). It's only lighter when you compare it to the Gen 1 Supercaliber with the redesigned swingarm (1,950g vs 2,150g).
      [Wil]

  • @imanMohamadighasr
    @imanMohamadighasr 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    ❤❤❤❤

  • @XCRiders
    @XCRiders 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

    Hats off to Trek for not tucking the cables into the head tube
    That idea has been horrible for cycling

    • @mateuszostaszewski3407
      @mateuszostaszewski3407 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I couldn't disagree more.... This cockpit like that looks horrendous, not to mention of aerodynamics, which is also important for xc riding especially fast courses. The bike is after all supposed to be super efficient and to provide all marginal gains out there.

    • @alumal
      @alumal 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Trek likes mechanics 😂

    • @johnlesoudeur3653
      @johnlesoudeur3653 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Actually once you have got your head round it is is pretty easy to work on and for the number of times that you will have to replace the upper headset bearing you will need to bleed the rear brakem as part of a routine service.

    • @XCRiders
      @XCRiders 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@mateuszostaszewski3407😂 yeah, I lost the race because of the aerodynamic drag on my cab

  • @ALI92734
    @ALI92734 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

    How much for this??

  • @alameirasfilipe
    @alameirasfilipe 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    What is the GPS mount?

    • @FlowMountainBikeYouTube
      @FlowMountainBikeYouTube  7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      That's a K-Edge adjustable stem mount. Really nice bit of kit! [Wil]

  • @notpablo8369
    @notpablo8369 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Wished the isostrut have 3position

  • @eprohoda
    @eprohoda 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    good day~Omg~very top ~ have a nice ady!

  • @thenormalberries6767
    @thenormalberries6767 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    When did the bike 'deaeboo' again?

  • @palpatine1975
    @palpatine1975 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    A stupidly expensive bike with a inadequate 80mm rear travel for today's ever increasing gnarly courses. All to show off the competitors how light trek can make their full sus bikes. By 2026, trek supercaliber 3 with 100mm rear travel.

    • @MrSpecialized75
      @MrSpecialized75 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      It's not even that light!

    • @palpatine1975
      @palpatine1975 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@MrSpecialized75 Really? There you go! 👍

    • @MrSpecialized75
      @MrSpecialized75 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      12k for gx level and 11.5kg! Wtf???.... I'd want it to be under 10kg for 12k at the least.... granted it does have big rubber though.

    • @palpatine1975
      @palpatine1975 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@MrSpecialized75 exactly! Trek is like apple... You pay premium for the brand. Nothing on the bike is exceptional or superior to other brands, if anything trek has had history of their so-called OCLV carbon frames cracked or damage many times.

    • @palpatine1975
      @palpatine1975 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@pebbleinspector Trek used to be great. Not only in aesthetics but function. The road and cyclocross bikes are still great, it's the mountain line that has taken a step back. They need to improve and I'm sure they can.

  • @erikklumpp3464
    @erikklumpp3464 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    12000 dollars holy balls i am going to buy a motor cycle instead

  • @fud1376
    @fud1376 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Rockshox repeatidly sell their suspension with no oil in the seals....WHY !!! Ha !

  • @hansschotterradler3772
    @hansschotterradler3772 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    cable rattling, contaminated rear hub... disappointing for a bike in this price range.

  • @lio220
    @lio220 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    The bike looks really good for competitors but not suitable for daily MTB rides

    • @HB1840
      @HB1840 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Why not? I ride my Gen 1 daily...

    • @lio220
      @lio220 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@HB1840 that's a bike that shows all his potential when you ride it at 100%, otherwise you have the feeling that you are not pushing it enough.
      Unless you are a beast it is not possible to ride 1h or 2h at max speed every day.
      Moreover, to push it enough you have to be in a very agressive position with a forward balance, and this is not adapted for a daily ride, it is hard in arms.
      You can ride it daily but this is not adapted and it is like to have a rigide bike that doesn't give any pleasure and make you feel you are in a bad shape.
      A Trek Top Fuel is more adapted for daily ride, it delivers pleasure even if you ride it calmly.

  • @BartleyNorman
    @BartleyNorman หลายเดือนก่อน

    Did you say $12,000 for 25lbs? HAHAHHA>>> Good luck

  • @MayankSharma-kx1rb
    @MayankSharma-kx1rb 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Fox > RockShox

  • @E.T_rode_bikes_As_well
    @E.T_rode_bikes_As_well 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Looks like a road bike