Trophy is doing great in gaza. 0 tanks were destroyed so far (0 tanks that use aps) merkava 4 LIC did get destroyed near the border (only once) because hamas invaded and because it doesn't have aps.
@@cedriceric9730 Trophy is only added to 14 leo2 serving together with the trophy fitted m1A2 sep 2... having one system in NATOs quick reaction force will make Integration more easy... the ADS System thats currently in the closing stage of testing is more capable than trophy... it has faster reaction time full 360° and top attack cover and is able to intercept faster moving threat... procurement in germany is extrem slow and cost a Fortune... such system should have been fielded years ago
@@OpenGL4ever this is from War Thunder, so take with a pinch of salt, but Gaijin's estimations on the Iron Fist from IMI threat speeds, from 70m/s to 1700m/s and vertical angle coverage of -15 degrees to 55 degrees. So no top down protection from air-launched missiles. However top-down attack ATGM's should be able to be dealt with, assuming the threat is eliminated before it passes above the 55 degree range. 55 Degrees is not bad, tbh. This means projectiles slower than 70m/s, or 210km/h are ignored by the APS system's computers. Fast sabot rounds, such as 1630m/s are roughly going at mach 4, cannot really be stopped, merely deflected. Seeing tests in War Thunder Dev server, using the Challenger 2 Black Night, show that high-velocity APFSDS rounds can be intercepted, but chances are low the round is deflected, let alone stopped. ATGM's can still sometimes get through, using erratic guiding techniques. This is from a video game, please keep this in mind. In War Thunder it seems the APS tries to predict incoming projectile path, meaning if incoming projectile path changes periodically, the APS has to adjust to aim path of incoming ATGM or tank round. In War Thunder, the APS does not like this, and the ATGM did successfully penetrate the Challenger in the side.
I don't think it's looks that goofy a bit yes but it look so much cleaner and smooth then for the Abrams and merkava and it doesn't make it through much bigger
@@Future183 almost all HEAT projectile are useless against modern ERA, and with the lastest Leopard 2 Variant that add additional armor and introduced the Trophy system basically any rocket projectile is pretty much useless.
@@alexandershaldybin6018 Деревня, там радары в горизонтальной плоскости стоят, всё что выше их угла обзора пройдёт незамеченным, эта система никак не защищает от атак сверху.
@@gabrieljoseph6310 На видео конечно красиво, но когда небольшой беспилотник начал аннигилировать абсолютно всё лазером это лол, такого даже в играх не припоминаю. По факту всё что дальше стационарной установки, взрывающей самодельные ракеты, весьма сомнительно и без реальный тестов выглядит как обещания политиков с целью привлечения электората.
I am not quite sure it will be effective against javelin. In 3:46 we can see that the sensor doesnt reach the top part of the tank. Maybe add the sensor pointing upward so the upper part is covered. would be effective
@@ulungprabowo I've been reading up on it and it is supposed to be effective against "top attack" missiles. However, we need to see it work in a combat situation to know for sure. I'm just surprised it took so long for this technology to happen. I served in the US Marines and worked on the TOW II system. The newer TOWs are top-attack and have been around for over 20 years! Again, I'm surprised that it has taken so long for anti-top attack measures to get designed and fielded. The comment above is right though, its all about politics & money...
This is somewhat misleading. Only one company worth of systems was ordered by the Bundeswehr in order to equip a rapid reaction force. As the video says, trophy requires so much energy that it needs a different hull with room for an extra generator. Which means the rest of the current leopard fleet is much more likely to get Rheinmetalls ads system - Germany isn't just going to throw away 300 hulls. ADS doesn't use active radar and thus doesn't need nearly as much electricity. It also is much harder to nail by Russian artillery. The Ukraine battlefield has shown that getting detected from a distance by Russian arty is a really bad thing.
Sorry no. A rotatin shield would only at most provide 50mm of stell protection and would add on unnecessary weight and be cause lots of issues when traversing rough terrain. Even when deployed it wouldnt stop any modern APFSDS due to its limited size by design.
In Germany, if there is a war, the fighting will be in open areas for the most part, and even if the tank is shot at, the system will have a lot of time to intercept the missiles shot at the tank, not for nothing, Germany is buying the system
This comment proves that you dont know anything about the merkava.. why? Because the only tanks in the Israeli force that have aps is the variant called "windbreaker." Also the only 1 merkava 4 tank has been destroyed, and that was on 7/10 when hamas invaded and the tank didn't have aps equiped, why? Because it wasn't a windbreaker but a merkava siman 4 LIC. Glad to explain to a moron like you how tanks work😅
2 Merkava *MK4s* have been destroyed. One of which was destroyed during October 7th at a partially empty military camp, when the APS was off. The other was unlucky timing. There has been damaged Mk4s but that's due to.. CQB.
This comment proves that you dont know anything about the merkava.. why? Because the only tanks in the Israeli force that have aps is the variant called "windbreaker." Also the only 1 merkava 4 tank has been destroyed, and that was on 7/10 when hamas invaded and the tank didn't have aps equiped, why? Because it wasn't a windbreaker but a merkava siman 4 LIC. Glad to explain to a moron like you how tanks work😅
APS sollte man nicht mit Reaktivpanzerung verwechseln. Letzteres sind nur passive Explosivladungen die überall am ganzen Fahrzeug angebracht werden und die beim Einschlag der Projektils explodieren und so diesem einen Teil der Energie rauben bzw. bei einfachen Hohlladungen diese unwirksam machen. Die Reaktivpanzerung gibt es bei den Russen seit dem T-80. Die APS ist bei den Russen meines Wissens nach aber deutlich jünger. Richtig ist allerdings, dass die Russen dieses System zuerst hatten.
@@OpenGL4ever davon rede ich nicht. Also ich meine schon die gesteuerte....die gibt es bei den Russen schon Jahrzehnte. Mit den Droz Systemen fing es an....
No chariot was taken out of service after hitting Gaza, they all returned to fighting after a few days of repairs, the only tanks that were burned were on October 7th after dozens of short-range missiles were fired at them because the terrorists had time for all kinds of reasons
This comment proves that you don't know anything about merkava.. why? Because the only tanks in the Israeli force that have aps is the variant called "windbreaker." Also the only 1 merkava 4 tank has been destroyed, and that was on 7/10 when hamas invaded and the tank didn't have aps equiped, why? Because it wasn't a windbreaker but a merkava siman 4 LIC. Glad to explain to a moron like you how tanks work😅
Aps windbreaker (trophy) didn't work in Lebanon because it wasn't even created back then... Yes it was invented because they destroyed it but it wasn't invented before or during that war.. also only 1 merkava 4 was destroyed by hamas, thats because they invaded Israel on 7/10 and destroyed a tank that didn't have aps (merkava siman 4 LIC) the variant that does have aps is merkava siman 4 "windbreaker" Next time remember it idiot
This has saved countless tanks and tank crews.
Tanks for the video
You won the internet
The EFP countermeasures are moving so fast hitting the incoming projectile, it’s like the video is being played backwards
Leopard my favourite tank ever .... Nice video armour desia
No M-1A2 Tusk 2
Very good upgrade
Exemplary video👍
Leopard will be more deadly now...
This comment didn't age well...
@@jp3630 Why?
In 2023 Israel should release the new Merkava mk 5 or Barak with a brand new APS designed by Rafael (Trophy) in collaboration with IMI (Iron fist).
Yes
Trophy is doing great in gaza. 0 tanks were destroyed so far (0 tanks that use aps) merkava 4 LIC did get destroyed near the border (only once) because hamas invaded and because it doesn't have aps.
Why not the indigenous rheimetall ADS protection!? It makes the same job .
Leopard 2A7HU tanks also have trophy APS
I wonder if germany ever uses their own aps on leos or if they will first implement it on their german french new generation mbt.
why indeed
Trophy is near perfect save for the weight,
It pays to first!!!
Their own aps will have a lot to prove while trophy is beyond
@@cedriceric9730 Trophy is only added to 14 leo2 serving together with the trophy fitted m1A2 sep 2... having one system in NATOs quick reaction force will make Integration more easy... the ADS System thats currently in the closing stage of testing is more capable than trophy... it has faster reaction time full 360° and top attack cover and is able to intercept faster moving threat... procurement in germany is extrem slow and cost a Fortune... such system should have been fielded years ago
@@cedriceric9730 Do you know if trophy also protects the tank from above? The Rheinmetal APS is capable of doing that.
@@OpenGL4ever this is from War Thunder, so take with a pinch of salt, but Gaijin's estimations on the Iron Fist from IMI threat speeds, from 70m/s to 1700m/s and vertical angle coverage of -15 degrees to 55 degrees. So no top down protection from air-launched missiles. However top-down attack ATGM's should be able to be dealt with, assuming the threat is eliminated before it passes above the 55 degree range. 55 Degrees is not bad, tbh. This means projectiles slower than 70m/s, or 210km/h are ignored by the APS system's computers. Fast sabot rounds, such as 1630m/s are roughly going at mach 4, cannot really be stopped, merely deflected. Seeing tests in War Thunder Dev server, using the Challenger 2 Black Night, show that high-velocity APFSDS rounds can be intercepted, but chances are low the round is deflected, let alone stopped. ATGM's can still sometimes get through, using erratic guiding techniques. This is from a video game, please keep this in mind. In War Thunder it seems the APS tries to predict incoming projectile path, meaning if incoming projectile path changes periodically, the APS has to adjust to aim path of incoming ATGM or tank round. In War Thunder, the APS does not like this, and the ATGM did successfully penetrate the Challenger in the side.
@@nagmashot Trophy is a standard fitted for M1A2 SEPv3
Good system 😮 - Radio frequency disruptors too ???
The Abrams and Merkava look imposing with the trophy system installed, but the Leopard II looks downright goofy. Oh well, as long as the system works.
I don't think it's looks that goofy a bit yes but it look so much cleaner and smooth then for the Abrams and merkava and it doesn't make it through much bigger
The leopard II is already invulnerable against heat projectile in the first place anyway
@@LeftOverMacNCheese nope lol
I think this leopard looks better than the abrams or merkava
@@Future183 almost all HEAT projectile are useless against modern ERA, and with the lastest Leopard 2 Variant that add additional armor and introduced the Trophy system basically any rocket projectile is pretty much useless.
Джавелин атакует сверху. Какова степень защиты танков от атак противотанковыми ракетами сверху?
А какая разница? Сенсоры засекают с любой стороны. В том числе и сверху.
@@alexandershaldybin6018 Деревня, там радары в горизонтальной плоскости стоят, всё что выше их угла обзора пройдёт незамеченным, эта система никак не защищает от атак сверху.
@@thedarkexorcion8267
Система лазерного перехвата скоро заработает через два года.
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@@gabrieljoseph6310 На видео конечно красиво, но когда небольшой беспилотник начал аннигилировать абсолютно всё лазером это лол, такого даже в играх не припоминаю. По факту всё что дальше стационарной установки, взрывающей самодельные ракеты, весьма сомнительно и без реальный тестов выглядит как обещания политиков с целью привлечения электората.
@@thedarkexorcion8267 Не волнуйся, это будет смертельно.Почему бы не использовать Sam 400/300 против израильских истребителей?
Leopard is more op but still lacks her one weakness
israeli invention only a hand full of friendly allies will enjoy along side the iron dome.
I wonder how it would do against the Javelin?
The same way as a RPG
@@ronnmeyers7067 If its that good, the west should apply it to all vehicles and not just a few tanks!
@@spiraling69 Agree it is just one word POLTICS $$$$$$$
I am not quite sure it will be effective against javelin. In 3:46 we can see that the sensor doesnt reach the top part of the tank. Maybe add the sensor pointing upward so the upper part is covered. would be effective
@@ulungprabowo I've been reading up on it and it is supposed to be effective against "top attack" missiles. However, we need to see it work in a combat situation to know for sure. I'm just surprised it took so long for this technology to happen. I served in the US Marines and worked on the TOW II system. The newer TOWs are top-attack and have been around for over 20 years! Again, I'm surprised that it has taken so long for anti-top attack measures to get designed and fielded. The comment above is right though, its all about politics & money...
hệ thống này liệu có bắn hạ được UAV tự sát không nhỉ ??
How about emp?
one electromagnetic bomb(EMP) destroys the electrical systems and computers of one country in short goes back to the Stone Age
@@gabrieljoseph6310 can they weaponize it?
@@ezioaltair8564 ya ,electromagnetic pulse attack
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This is somewhat misleading. Only one company worth of systems was ordered by the Bundeswehr in order to equip a rapid reaction force. As the video says, trophy requires so much energy that it needs a different hull with room for an extra generator. Which means the rest of the current leopard fleet is much more likely to get Rheinmetalls ads system - Germany isn't just going to throw away 300 hulls. ADS doesn't use active radar and thus doesn't need nearly as much electricity. It also is much harder to nail by Russian artillery. The Ukraine battlefield has shown that getting detected from a distance by Russian arty is a really bad thing.
the Ukrain has no PzH 2000 which would whipp the floor with russian Arty systems
@@nagmashot
it has now
These tanks also need a computer controlled rotating shield to the rear that deflect incoming munitions
That shield would do absoluetely nothing. Sorry,
Lmao what 😂😂😂
@@DevVexus your opinion....sorry
Sorry no. A rotatin shield would only at most provide 50mm of stell protection and would add on unnecessary weight and be cause lots of issues when traversing rough terrain. Even when deployed it wouldnt stop any modern APFSDS due to its limited size by design.
@@DevVexus sorry wrong....
Tanks for watching
How effective against Javelin.
Trophy effective against all anti-tank missiles including Javelin spike too
@@gabrieljoseph6310 and kornet missiles also tested
@@alexdias8627
and shot them down in actual combat
Doesn't seem to be working so well in Rafa and Gaza...
In Germany, if there is a war, the fighting will be in open areas for the most part, and even if the tank is shot at, the system will have a lot of time to intercept the missiles shot at the tank, not for nothing, Germany is buying the system
This comment proves that you dont know anything about the merkava.. why? Because the only tanks in the Israeli force that have aps is the variant called "windbreaker." Also the only 1 merkava 4 tank has been destroyed, and that was on 7/10 when hamas invaded and the tank didn't have aps equiped, why? Because it wasn't a windbreaker but a merkava siman 4 LIC.
Glad to explain to a moron like you how tanks work😅
2 Merkava *MK4s* have been destroyed.
One of which was destroyed during October 7th at a partially empty military camp, when the APS was off.
The other was unlucky timing.
There has been damaged Mk4s but that's due to.. CQB.
@@Yisraelamundas true.
@@Yisraelamundas Israeli propaganda has lost all credibility and so has western msm.
Well this didnt help the leopards on ukraine
No leopard newer than 2A6 was delivered to Ukraine. Tf you talking about.
Yeah none of them had a APS LMFAO
Vid wasn’t even long enough for me to finish pinching a loaf. 😒
problem already solved
👍👍👍👍👏👏👏👏
APFSDS be like😂
Well you need a tank to be able to counter it since APFSDS can only be fired by tanks, the Trophy MK-4 can stop APFSDS
❤😂😂🎉🎉😢😢😮😅
Robotic auto-generated voice audio sucks. Don't do that
А всем?
Tropys APS ass is being kicked lebonon, in gazza.
Армата это огонь 🔥
А где эта Армата? Стоит заглохшая на Красной площади? На вооружении ее нет. Слишком дорогая для армии РФ.
Сколько их там? 5? Все остальное старьё. Да и этот танк хорош только на бумаге. Россия даже автомобили нормальные не выпускает. Такие же танки.
Expert in battle hardware, imbeciles in peace tech. will result in...
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Rpg 30 destroyed aps tropy.
This comment proves that you dont know anything about the merkava.. why? Because the only tanks in the Israeli force that have aps is the variant called "windbreaker." Also the only 1 merkava 4 tank has been destroyed, and that was on 7/10 when hamas invaded and the tank didn't have aps equiped, why? Because it wasn't a windbreaker but a merkava siman 4 LIC.
Glad to explain to a moron like you how tanks work😅
Das haben die anderen schon seit 35 Jahre.
APS sollte man nicht mit Reaktivpanzerung verwechseln. Letzteres sind nur passive Explosivladungen die überall am ganzen Fahrzeug angebracht werden und die beim Einschlag der Projektils explodieren und so diesem einen Teil der Energie rauben bzw. bei einfachen Hohlladungen diese unwirksam machen.
Die Reaktivpanzerung gibt es bei den Russen seit dem T-80. Die APS ist bei den Russen meines Wissens nach aber deutlich jünger. Richtig ist allerdings, dass die Russen dieses System zuerst hatten.
@@OpenGL4ever davon rede ich nicht. Also ich meine schon die gesteuerte....die gibt es bei den Russen schon Jahrzehnte. Mit den Droz Systemen fing es an....
Лучше танка России нету
Looks good in theory. In practice the turret flies off like on t72
Yea rite t72 cooked turret🤣 not battle proven merkava mark 4 trophy aps
You sure don't know much about Armor. That's a realy stupid statement
It worked in 2014 in Gaza
in real wars it destroyed every single missile shot at it. 100% success rate.
no tank was even scratched.
Merkava has been failed in Gaza War Hamas military with sort sorceresses thousand,s of merkava destroyed in Palestine
No chariot was taken out of service after hitting Gaza, they all returned to fighting after a few days of repairs, the only tanks that were burned were on October 7th after dozens of short-range missiles were fired at them because the terrorists had time for all kinds of reasons
This comment proves that you don't know anything about merkava.. why? Because the only tanks in the Israeli force that have aps is the variant called "windbreaker." Also the only 1 merkava 4 tank has been destroyed, and that was on 7/10 when hamas invaded and the tank didn't have aps equiped, why? Because it wasn't a windbreaker but a merkava siman 4 LIC.
Glad to explain to a moron like you how tanks work😅
Source: trust me
@@shabbirhussain5921 there are no more than 1000 merkava mk 4 💀 + less than 10 have been fully destroyed.
APS didn't do them any good in Lebanon when they got hammered by Hezbollah
The system was not installed on the tanks during the 2006 war, it was being finalized. Upgrades began after the war.
It was used in Gaza on merkava and it worked (no merkava destroyed), Hamas cried.
@@GreatRaphael Exactly.
@@GreatRaphael
no Merkava was even scratched.
this vid also shows an official HAMAS vid of a kornet interception near Gaza
Aps windbreaker (trophy) didn't work in Lebanon because it wasn't even created back then... Yes it was invented because they destroyed it but it wasn't invented before or during that war.. also only 1 merkava 4 was destroyed by hamas, thats because they invaded Israel on 7/10 and destroyed a tank that didn't have aps (merkava siman 4 LIC) the variant that does have aps is merkava siman 4 "windbreaker"
Next time remember it idiot