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This engine over a 420 from go power sports ! It has a lot more power potential this is probably slightly modified a port on the head would make it faster than anything from a go cart supply place .. what’s the difference in price ? Have you worked with other engines?
I built a shifter cart in “78” . It’s was a Yamaha race cart that had a 100 cc motor blown when I bought it. I bought a Suzuki 370 RM 2-stroke with kick start. Put motor behind seat over the axle the kick start worked good with enough room to kick it. The exhaust I cut 3-4 times an twisted it so fit nice. The shift rod was just straight rod motor shifter turned up and and loop welded to it so just 1 forward and 4 back. The clutch was just the regular handle with pc handle bar welded to frame an really only used to take off an come to stop. Was very fast about 70? Really loud when brought out the people in neighborhood all came out.
You need to move the chain tensioner to the bottom chain or it will bend again when you get traction. Spin the wheels in the correct direction and look at where the chain is slack, that is where you put the tensioner. Right now it's sending all the power into the tensioner causing it to bend and it will break again. Good luck with the build!
Yes I 100% agree. A tensioner does not have to be robust. Just practical enough to keep the free slack out of the way and keep the links buried in the sprocket. Tbh I have always been impressed by your process. You seem to have always weighed options when you finally commit to a method. Great job!
I had a shudder when I saw you putting the roller on the drive side. I doubt it will last terribly long like that. If it doesn't bend the bracket the roller will wear really quick, the load if that wheel hops is unreal!
Its amazing how someone can have so little common sense they fuck this up..... im shure his motor mounts wont brake when he gets the engine warmed up on dry ground lol. you wanna see the biggest shitshow on youtoube. go look up MOTOMIGS and look at his motor mount on the mini nascar lmao. its amazing that kid can take a shit on his own.
@@2wheelhoon813 It's also amazing that someone doesn't know how to spell the word 'sure.' I mean, we learned that in like 1st grade. Give him a break, maybe he's new to all this and still learning.
@@refugeinc.159 that's not learning it's common sense. As soon as the chain pulls tight it would bend down..... Come the fuck on now seriously. My problem is TH-camrs need people to stop making videos beginners turn to to learn the wrong way. Because of TH-cam there's people who are new to the hobby that think ohhh I'll just put this eBay turbo kit on my car and life is good. "I did it when I was young bc I sa it on TH-cam" well they skipped the part about the aftermarket boost controller and added waste Gates and ignition cut boxes and different map sensors..... These people portray hotroding as a easy and friendly hobby when it isn't. And it's certainly not cheap. Half these videos are fairy tales that people watch bc they wish it were true. But than there is some really intelligent TH-camrs doing cool shit and teaching good skills and being open about the cost and time involved.
Oh man that’s gotta be so much fun! My cbr125 shifter kart that I just build is plenty of fun, and I could only imagine if it had a banshee motor (really regret ever selling my banshee… it was a blast!).
Adam very nice. Kart has lots of power and sounds amazing. Put the chain tensioner on the bottom of the chain. Upper side is the the power side thats why its bent... other than that very nice
That thing is crazy!!! Haha just a few little things to fix up and it's track ready, proud of you Adam, the fact that you're doing this all by yourself is just amazing, keep learning and growing bro💪🏻
I would actually avoid a tensioner all together because when you downshift or engine brake the lower side will have a ton of tension too. Just pot the engine in the right place
Adam, It looks really tricked out. The fabrication work that you did is a reflection of how TALENTED you are. Love the coil piece you made. When the engine cleared its throat, she ran like a bat out of HELL. I'm looking forward to seeing you run her when it's dry.
Terrific job, looks and sounds awesome, dont think id have tried it in the wet with slicks lol but awesome bit of work, 10/10 looks just great. You had me when you rope pulled to start and it worked , sounds awesome. That engine was made for it
From waveblaster experience those water hoses have a big kink in them where they go around the engine, they could fold flatter when they heat up and restrict coolant flow. Id put metal 90 degree elbows in there which i did after losing a blaster motor from coolant starvation. Im sure you're aware of the chain tensioner already :)
@@adampaganelli4891 i was typing fast but yeah, its the bends on the head and the pump outlet, once a hose goes over 90 degrees it will try to fold flat on its self when it gets hot. It is possible to route them down low? Im liking your work tho, its like watching me.... 40 years ago!
nice build. very nice my banchee 4 wheeler would do over 105 mph by adding tumi ss pipes, jetting carbs,and port n polish heads,plus 40over and high compression pistons
Hi. Chain tensioner needs to be at the bottom of chain, providing there is room. If still bending brackets, spring load tensioner. The seat is somewhat to the left as to equalise weight distribution with engines mounted to the right.
Very cool! Looks like a beast man, great build!! A couple hints, youve got plenty on the chain tensioner and starting, but definitely invest in a pair of Milbar lock/safety wire pliers and a spool of lockwire, no more hardware vibrating off. Use lots of springs and rubber mounts on your exhausts, theyll be much happier. Well done man.
Woooow!! What an awesome build, so much power beneath your feet too, only one thing though, the chain tensioner needs to be on the bottom or it will keep bending ☺ keep grinding dude, mad respect from Scotland 🇬🇧
Man that is an awesome build and yes I gave this a thumbs up!! If the steering was moved to the left a little more then it looks like it would be a lot easier to drive it!
Make a kart stand and use third gear to strap start it that's how we do it at WKA road races and events. We can even start with just turning the wheel with our hands once after it is warmed up.
Great job I like the way you started it but one little thing the chain tensioner should be on the bottom of the chain the chain pulled tight at the top but your slack always comes in the bottom side the chain pulls the rear sprocket the slack is always on the bottom but you've got one hell of a kart built I bet it will fly
Yes absolutely right Adam spin the wheels to see which way to slack is but you definitely have to put it on the bottom side not the side that the motor Torx the chain
Dont know if you solved it but a vacuum leak will make it idle high also make sure everything is sealed around the carb. Can cause a burn down if you dont catch it.
Sprocket guides and a spring tensioner on the underside chap will help the slap I wouldn’t put the hot and cold cooling pipes together, otherwise nice kart
Maybe but more likely it has a screw that lifts the slide when you thread it in . Its not common to run thottle cable tight between the carb and the twist grip . Slack is actually recomended and standard on motorcycles .
Yes put the chain roller on the bottom side of the chain cause when you get on the gas the top side of the chain has tension on it on it and the bottom is slacked I believe that will fix that problem sweet build bro
No you half to mount the chain tenchiner on the bottom return side of the chain or every time you hit the throttle you will be putting major force on it
Try to place the chain support on the other side of the chain, because when you start to drive, your chain will tense up on the side where the sprocket of the engine is"pulling" on the chain. This will force the chain support to bend upwards. I think you can try to weld it underneath the chain, on the other side of the chain. But otherwise when you do this, your supporter breaks when you force it in die other direction (enginestart or enginebreak)
Ok I have a couple questions where did you get a banshee engine from how much was it .. what was the difficulty of the install I want to do this engine but on a cross kart style but a cheaper manco go kart type if you get what I’m saying just something with a good supension that I can do road and dirt depending on tires .. PLEASE ANY HELP or DIRECTION would be greatly appreciated 💪💯
Use the old kickstart piece that slides onto the shaft weld a plate on to that with a Groove in it use a steel cable so it's less likely to break and make a bracket that holds like a T handle so you pull that and it's like a cantilever wheel on a compound bow and it turns the shaft for the kickstarter and starts it that way my dad put a RD 400 motor in a dune buggy and devised a pulley system so you could sit inside in the seat pull a rope and it would start the motor it was actually pretty neat I wish I would have had pictures before he took it apart
At first it was, I left the choke on by accident. The next day it ran a lot better. I’m not really concerned about tuning this carb because I’m switching to a dual carb set up here soon
No one realises that chain tensioners need to go on the bottom of the chain because that is the slack side when you are driving and it will break/bend the tensioner if you gas it or really get on it when it is on the top of the chain. Anyways love the build lol
Well now that I know what was on this for sure I own this cart now was gonna put a smaller motor for my son on it but mite have to put another banshee motor on it
You probably figured this out by now, but the chain tensioner needs to be on a pivot point and to apply tension you need a strong spring pulling on it. Other wise the tensioner wont work, all you will do is either bend it or brake it. The best thing to use is a small sprocket and not a friction type like you had at first.
The coolant line off the head looks pinched, radius the line out further to make sure you’re getting proper flow. It might get hot as it currently is set up
Smaller rear sprocket, stretch them gears out, you have plenty of torque. I know it wet, but what good is power if you can’t get it to the ground? Right!
Nice work! By now, I'm sure you will have changed that chain tensioner and hopefully offset the seat on a slight angle so you can get in better. You won't be in line with the frame, but after many years of racing my grass kart (Suzuki RM250) you don't notice it. Have a look at your pilot jet size as it could be running a bit lean, making it idle too fast. Enjoy the kart and take it to a track where you can legally and safely see what it will do ;)
That's right the chain tensioner must be on the bottom the top should be direct. Also that carb is not stock there should be 2 of them. You also have 1 pipe blowing smoke probably a bad crank seal and to finish you'd be better off with a RZ 350 gearbox, it drops right in no modes required. Because the banshee has Motocross ratios whereas the Rz has road racing ratios much more suited for the Cart Cool videos tho keep it up
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This engine over a 420 from go power sports ! It has a lot more power potential this is probably slightly modified a port on the head would make it faster than anything from a go cart supply place .. what’s the difference in price ? Have you worked with other engines?
What did you do with the motor you had on this
I built a shifter cart in “78” . It’s was a Yamaha race cart that had a 100 cc motor blown when I bought it. I bought a Suzuki 370 RM 2-stroke with kick start. Put motor behind seat over the axle the kick start worked good with enough room to kick it. The exhaust I cut 3-4 times an twisted it so fit nice. The shift rod was just straight rod motor shifter turned up and and loop welded to it so just 1 forward and 4 back. The clutch was just the regular handle with pc handle bar welded to frame an really only used to take off an come to stop. Was very fast about 70? Really loud when brought out the people in neighborhood all came out.
You need to move the chain tensioner to the bottom chain or it will bend again when you get traction. Spin the wheels in the correct direction and look at where the chain is slack, that is where you put the tensioner. Right now it's sending all the power into the tensioner causing it to bend and it will break again. Good luck with the build!
@Adam Paganelli As above - tension (or remove the excess slack) from the non-drive side of the chain. In your case underneath
Thanks for the feedback👍🏼
Yes I 100% agree. A tensioner does not have to be robust. Just practical enough to keep the free slack out of the way and keep the links buried in the sprocket. Tbh I have always been impressed by your process. You seem to have always weighed options when you finally commit to a method. Great job!
Exactly my thoughts on the tensioner, was going to comment the same :)
I had a shudder when I saw you putting the roller on the drive side. I doubt it will last terribly long like that. If it doesn't bend the bracket the roller will wear really quick, the load if that wheel hops is unreal!
You got a hell of a nice yard
Tensioner goes on the slack side, not the pull side.
Its amazing how someone can have so little common sense they fuck this up..... im shure his motor mounts wont brake when he gets the engine warmed up on dry ground lol. you wanna see the biggest shitshow on youtoube. go look up MOTOMIGS and look at his motor mount on the mini nascar lmao. its amazing that kid can take a shit on his own.
@@2wheelhoon813 It's also amazing that someone doesn't know how to spell the word 'sure.' I mean, we learned that in like 1st grade. Give him a break, maybe he's new to all this and still learning.
@@refugeinc.159 that's not learning it's common sense. As soon as the chain pulls tight it would bend down..... Come the fuck on now seriously. My problem is TH-camrs need people to stop making videos beginners turn to to learn the wrong way. Because of TH-cam there's people who are new to the hobby that think ohhh I'll just put this eBay turbo kit on my car and life is good. "I did it when I was young bc I sa it on TH-cam" well they skipped the part about the aftermarket boost controller and added waste Gates and ignition cut boxes and different map sensors..... These people portray hotroding as a easy and friendly hobby when it isn't. And it's certainly not cheap. Half these videos are fairy tales that people watch bc they wish it were true. But than there is some really intelligent TH-camrs doing cool shit and teaching good skills and being open about the cost and time involved.
@@refugeinc.159 check out grind hard plumbing company's videos
Chain tensioner on bottom
Awesome 👍 shee is insane. I feel you on the electric start
Test drive in the wet with slicks... brilliant! Now I want a banshee engine for my kart builds!!
Oh man that’s gotta be so much fun! My cbr125 shifter kart that I just build is plenty of fun, and I could only imagine if it had a banshee motor (really regret ever selling my banshee… it was a blast!).
Adam very nice. Kart has lots of power and sounds amazing. Put the chain tensioner on the bottom of the chain. Upper side is the the power side thats why its bent... other than that very nice
Yes put it in the bottom 👍👍
Good work! Thanks for a great video. I really needed this after a long day at work.
That thing is crazy!!! Haha just a few little things to fix up and it's track ready, proud of you Adam, the fact that you're doing this all by yourself is just amazing, keep learning and growing bro💪🏻
Thanks for the support man👍🏼
Awesome!! That kart looks like a handful!! Good luck with the chain tensioner.
Forget the track, a wet Walmart parking lot would be great!
But can’t wait for the next video though
The tensioner needs to be on the bottom of the chain. The top will always be tight under acceleration 👍🏼
I would actually avoid a tensioner all together because when you downshift or engine brake the lower side will have a ton of tension too. Just pot the engine in the right place
This clown doesn’t even understand basic mechanics. Just another TH-cam hack job.
Marek Sumguy you couldn’t do better
Never a tensioner on a drive chain. You need a slide bracket.
What a widowmaker Adam, congrats. Regards from Spain
Adam, It looks really tricked out. The fabrication work that you did is a reflection of how TALENTED you are. Love the coil piece you made. When the engine cleared its throat, she ran like a bat out of HELL. I'm looking forward to seeing you run her when it's dry.
Really appreciate it Jim👍🏼 I need to continue to get better for sure!
@@adampaganelli4891 That's awesome!
Terrific job, looks and sounds awesome, dont think id have tried it in the wet with slicks lol but awesome bit of work, 10/10 looks just great. You had me when you rope pulled to start and it worked , sounds awesome. That engine was made for it
Im into the RC hobby, but im starting to see Shifter Karts as my new hobby😅
Congrat for your top project Adam
it's a real challenge & you succeed ! 💪💪💪👍👍👍
This kart is looking realy like badass! You now need a race track.
You're really gonna want that roller/tensioner on the bottom of the chain.
good on ya putting the tensioner on the tight side
thats awesome mate, when i saw it i had to think "good thing your not bigger than you are otherwise ya wouldnt fit". verry very cool my friend.
Motor sounds very rich.
From waveblaster experience those water hoses have a big kink in them where they go around the engine, they could fold flatter when they heat up and restrict coolant flow. Id put metal 90 degree elbows in there which i did after losing a blaster motor from coolant starvation. Im sure you're aware of the chain tensioner already :)
Thanks for the tip! I think the hose you’re referring to already has a 90 degree bend on it. Maybe I will look for a 180!
@@adampaganelli4891 i was typing fast but yeah, its the bends on the head and the pump outlet, once a hose goes over 90 degrees it will try to fold flat on its self when it gets hot. It is possible to route them down low? Im liking your work tho, its like watching me.... 40 years ago!
nice build. very nice
my banchee 4 wheeler would do over 105 mph by adding tumi ss pipes, jetting carbs,and port n polish heads,plus 40over and high compression pistons
Chain tensioner goes on the bottom of the chain not the top, but it'll work for a little while
The tension on top when engine pulls straightens chain so slack will be under the bottom so the old school had a heavy spring and a roller on it.
These engines sound fucking awesome!! Gotta love a proper 2 stroke
Congrats you have created a monster😎
That is one sweet ride
Thanks👍🏼
Hi. Chain tensioner needs to be at the bottom of chain, providing there is room. If still bending brackets, spring load tensioner. The seat is somewhat to the left as to equalise weight distribution with engines mounted to the right.
Very cool! Looks like a beast man, great build!! A couple hints, youve got plenty on the chain tensioner and starting, but definitely invest in a pair of Milbar lock/safety wire pliers and a spool of lockwire, no more hardware vibrating off. Use lots of springs and rubber mounts on your exhausts, theyll be much happier. Well done man.
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Woooow!! What an awesome build, so much power beneath your feet too, only one thing though, the chain tensioner needs to be on the bottom or it will keep bending ☺ keep grinding dude, mad respect from Scotland 🇬🇧
The chain tensioner should work just fine as long as you just go backwards all the time.
I love the Build though keep up with the great content
You should get one of those 360 cameras for sick footage
Where's the track video?
Well done mate , i put a CR500 engine in mine lol , looks like yours is just as insane as mine 👍
Great project and thank you for your hard work!! ...from Wyoming USA 🔫🤠
Man that is an awesome build and yes I gave this a thumbs up!! If the steering was moved to the left a little more then it looks like it would be a lot easier to drive it!
Make a kart stand and use third gear to strap start it that's how we do it at WKA road races and events. We can even start with just turning the wheel with our hands once after it is warmed up.
get the chain tensioner under the bottom of the chain where its slack even on the power.
Do you not have room for the kick starter? Even if you hand crank it , it would be better then the rope n tire .
Great job I like the way you started it but one little thing the chain tensioner should be on the bottom of the chain the chain pulled tight at the top but your slack always comes in the bottom side the chain pulls the rear sprocket the slack is always on the bottom but you've got one hell of a kart built I bet it will fly
Badass! Now take it out on the road
I think I'd put on some cut down bars and use dirt bike controls and have a cup shifter for your foot.
Yes absolutely right Adam spin the wheels to see which way to slack is but you definitely have to put it on the bottom side not the side that the motor Torx the chain
Dont know if you solved it but a vacuum leak will make it idle high also make sure everything is sealed around the carb. Can cause a burn down if you dont catch it.
Use cordless impact to start it
Sprocket guides and a spring tensioner on the underside chap will help the slap I wouldn’t put the hot and cold cooling pipes together, otherwise nice kart
(idle adjustment is on the carb's.... thats just cable slack adjustment)
Maybe but more likely it has a screw that lifts the slide when you thread it in . Its not common to run thottle cable tight between the carb and the twist grip . Slack is actually recomended and standard on motorcycles .
@@Gadget-Tree i know, i just said that dude lol
Yes put the chain roller on the bottom side of the chain cause when you get on the gas the top side of the chain has tension on it on it and the bottom is slacked I believe that will fix that problem sweet build bro
Ditch the tensioner and remove some links to get the proper length you need.
No you half to mount the chain tenchiner on the bottom return side of the chain or every time you hit the throttle you will be putting major force on it
Try to place the chain support on the other side of the chain, because when you start to drive, your chain will tense up on the side where the sprocket of the engine is"pulling" on the chain. This will force the chain support to bend upwards. I think you can try to weld it underneath the chain, on the other side of the chain. But otherwise when you do this, your supporter breaks when you force it in die other direction (enginestart or enginebreak)
Will you make a update video or is this project end ?
I have a Rotax 2 cylinder inside my Kart but with Skidoo CVT :-)
nice go kart whats it held together with? 793 zipties
I have a frame and I’m contemplating acquiring with these motors. How did you mount it?
Need some rubber mounts for the exhaust
Just love your vids man I gave this vid a like as well you deserve more subscribers then you have keep on the grind
Thanks Oscar🙏
I would put the kick starter back on.
That thing looks like an awesome adrenaline rush machine love it. Is it a stock banshee motor? That thing has a lot of talk
wow you had to move seat way over great job with this build
Get a couple supertrap exhaust cans and you will quite enjoy the sound of that banshee engine.
U tried adjusting the dialer screw on the carb
This thing is 💥🔥🔥
Ok I have a couple questions where did you get a banshee engine from how much was it .. what was the difficulty of the install I want to do this engine but on a cross kart style but a cheaper manco go kart type if you get what I’m saying just something with a good supension that I can do road and dirt depending on tires .. PLEASE ANY HELP or DIRECTION would be greatly appreciated 💪💯
Why is the clutch not a foot pedal looks like a pain to shift especially while turning
How fast is it compared to a KZ2 Shifter Kart?
Im curious how you plan on moving the steering to the side. I dont think thats an easy job.
Does it use a fuel pump?
Use the old kickstart piece that slides onto the shaft weld a plate on to that with a Groove in it use a steel cable so it's less likely to break and make a bracket that holds like a T handle so you pull that and it's like a cantilever wheel on a compound bow and it turns the shaft for the kickstarter and starts it that way my dad put a RD 400 motor in a dune buggy and devised a pulley system so you could sit inside in the seat pull a rope and it would start the motor it was actually pretty neat I wish I would have had pictures before he took it apart
I'd start by turning the air screw in a bit...then mabey drop that needle one clip....that'll smooth out the off idle response...
At first it was, I left the choke on by accident. The next day it ran a lot better. I’m not really concerned about tuning this carb because I’m switching to a dual carb set up here soon
No one realises that chain tensioners need to go on the bottom of the chain because that is the slack side when you are driving and it will break/bend the tensioner if you gas it or really get on it when it is on the top of the chain. Anyways love the build lol
Prbly idles fast on the choke ! Wait till she warms up first !
Damn that thing is a monster be careful man
Well now that I know what was on this for sure I own this cart now was gonna put a smaller motor for my son on it but mite have to put another banshee motor on it
maybe go up one size pilot jet and set the idle on the carb screw first.
Tensioner would work a lot better on the other side, awesome build though!
@12:03 is that water you sit in?
You may find it easier if you put the kart into a higher gear when trying to bump start it like so.
You can bump start it with you on it and someone pushing you
Where’d this go
Dude you got to put the tensioner on the bottom
Double nuts with a lock washer between them works great,lots faster than spin'n off (one time use 😏) nylocks
You probably figured this out by now, but the chain tensioner needs to be on a pivot point and to apply tension you need a strong spring pulling on it. Other wise the tensioner wont work, all you will do is either bend it or brake it.
The best thing to use is a small sprocket and not a friction type like you had at first.
Is there no kick start?
@Josh Frank oh okay
Sounds like it’s running lean, sucking air somewhere. With that 2 into 1 setup you have to use 2 intake gaskets. Did you do that?
Make another video on dry pavement!!👍👍💪💪
I don't think you needed suit up with all that gear just for that little spin bro.. lol.. cool cart..
The coolant line off the head looks pinched, radius the line out further to make sure you’re getting proper flow. It might get hot as it currently is set up
Vasily and Rob dahm had a baby!
Smaller rear sprocket, stretch them gears out, you have plenty of torque. I know it wet, but what good is power if you can’t get it to the ground? Right!
That thing is VIOLENT! 😂
Move chain roller to slack side, put kicker back on, and fix your shifter. Pull=upshift push=downshift.
Nice work! By now, I'm sure you will have changed that chain tensioner and hopefully offset the seat on a slight angle so you can get in better. You won't be in line with the frame, but after many years of racing my grass kart (Suzuki RM250) you don't notice it. Have a look at your pilot jet size as it could be running a bit lean, making it idle too fast. Enjoy the kart and take it to a track where you can legally and safely see what it will do ;)
Hi mate you have the chain tensioner in the wrong spot on the chain it should be at the bottom where all the Slack is mate
That's right the chain tensioner must be on the bottom the top should be direct. Also that carb is not stock there should be 2 of them.
You also have 1 pipe blowing smoke probably a bad crank seal and to finish you'd be better off with a RZ 350 gearbox, it drops right in no modes required. Because the banshee has Motocross ratios whereas the Rz has road racing ratios much more suited for the Cart
Cool videos tho keep it up
Avoid locating idler on pull side of the chain whenever possible. Otherwise you'll need to design a stronger mount for idler.