How To Read CSX Signals Part 2

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  • @mattbaxter508
    @mattbaxter508 8 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    im from indianapolis and CSX is the main railroad here. I really appreciate the tutorials because I tend to railfan at signal locations alot. so now I will have a better understanding of what I am seeing. Thank you very much.

    • @roninhcfb5501
      @roninhcfb5501 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I railfan NS and CSX at Indy and Muncie and this also helped.

  • @FuzzBass66
    @FuzzBass66 5 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    I work as a trainman/conductor for Canadian Pacific in Alberta, gotta say I love your videos. It's really interesting seeing the differences and similarities between Canadian and US rail operations, at least for me...but to be fair I've been a railfan since birth so I suppose it's to be expected haha. Seriously though, great, informative content.

  • @koryclarke1991
    @koryclarke1991 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I’ve learned a lot about speed signaling thru these videos. Up here in Wisconsin, I’m used to route signaling.

  • @upchessbyabzolute
    @upchessbyabzolute ปีที่แล้ว +2

    SIGNAL INDICATION + LOCATION TIMESTAMPS
    ~~~~~~~~~~
    0:00 Medium Clear at Valrico Junction
    1:03 Approach at Vitis Junction
    1:22 Approach at Richland Crossover
    1:57 Approach Limited at Richland Crossover
    2:23 Stop at Ellerslie
    2:46 Clear at Ellerslie (can't see the signal)
    3:21 Medium Approach at Ellerslie
    3:33 Limited Clear at Ellerslie
    4:17 Approach Limited at Richland Crossover (same shot as 1:57)

  • @chrisbgaming5079
    @chrisbgaming5079 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I been none stop watching your videos on the on tv every day

  • @RochelleM491
    @RochelleM491 4 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Again, Danny is the Einstein of railroading in my perception..lol!

  • @nicholaslokos7949
    @nicholaslokos7949 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I have a signal on a mainline track near my house and always wondered what they meant, so I could tell more about where, and how fast, the trains were, thank you!

  • @elizabethcockrail5335
    @elizabethcockrail5335 8 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    I'm so glad these videos are finally back!!! Yay!!! :-)

  • @MITracks
    @MITracks 8 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    We usually get a red over yellow over flashing green; Medium Approach Medium when we enter CSX territory in Michigan or a Red over Yellow over Yellow; Medium Approach. Nice videos keep em coming

    • @csxfloridafunnelrailfan3065
      @csxfloridafunnelrailfan3065 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      that's an interesting aspect (red-yellow-yellow).
      on the ex seaboard system of CSX, medium approach is red-yellow on a two head mast and red-yellow-red on a three head mast.
      it would definitely be interesting to see that

    • @frankney8284
      @frankney8284 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Medium Advance Approach?

    • @j-bird1778
      @j-bird1778 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Frank Ney he is talking about the former c&o, medium approach is r/y/y.

  • @KatTheFoxtaur
    @KatTheFoxtaur 4 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Dude, are you sure you're not actually a news anchor under cover? XD That had to be one of the most pleasing railroad educational videos I've ever watched! I love your commentary, and the videos were extremely helpful and very nicely shot and edited! Thank you, will be watching the rest of these now! :3

    • @cpttankerjoe
      @cpttankerjoe 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      He’s too good to work for the mainstream media I say. He deserves a show about trains. Like mike Rowe had dirty jobs

  • @silverjinglebobspur1
    @silverjinglebobspur1 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Absolutely fascinating. I think this stuff gets passed genetically. Both grandfather and grandmother worked the trains, steamers were the thing then. She quit, having earned enough money to search for her three youngest children who were taken by FT Carson Agency. He continued on with SP. He must have been liked and well known. 1971, steamers only make shows, but there were tracks near our house in Bellflower, CA. My entertainment was sitting and watching the trains. One day, the engineer waved and motioned me to come close. Allen C Endicott was his name. He showed me what he could of that engine. When he found out that Forrest Dewey Wright was my great grandfather, he asked if I would like to ride to Pasadena. Run home and bring me a note saying it's okay. I was told to watch the lights. It was so confusing. Which one? I was the engineer for maybe 200 feet. He stood on the engineers pedal and told me what to do. That old horn lever is a powerful thing. We made it across Bellflower Blvd. I must have fallen asleep. I don't remember a thing after that. Doesn't matter. I didn't want to run it. I just wanted to ride. Caboose was still in use back then, coupled directly behind the engine. I think SP was allowing other workers to eventually retire out. I remember the brakeman, lineman, switchman, signalman, and conductor. And now, at the age of 59, I'm just learning what all of those lights meant.

    • @pauld.1256
      @pauld.1256 ปีที่แล้ว

      What a great story.. it amazes me just how many lives trains have influenced!

  • @Bhil3
    @Bhil3 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Such an informative video. I also just watched a series on what and how CN signals work here in Canada.

  • @crapper1
    @crapper1 8 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    in goose creek sc we had the double target lights now we have the type shown here basicly the limited clear was change to track 2 and top clear was high ball it rarely ever saw amber but 6 times in the 15 years of train spotting

  • @tcmw779
    @tcmw779 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    i'm kind of an on again / off again railfan. Have loved trains, in general; for a long time. Anyway I like your videos, good narration, useful information. You probably have done this before, but I'd like to know more about DPU, multi-locomotive lashups and in general multi-engine setups, I apologize if you've already done this, and I did find one of your videos where CSX had one loco at the head and one at the tail.

  • @briang6040
    @briang6040 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I watch CSX trains all the time on the Lineville Sub in Lagrange,Ga. I see a lot of those limited clear signals there on that double track main there, and it's always after a slow approach or medium approach signal before hand.

  • @NorfolkSouthernES44AC
    @NorfolkSouthernES44AC 8 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Nice video! 10 stars out of 10 stars!

  • @shnimmuc
    @shnimmuc 8 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Great video.

  • @stephengering1986
    @stephengering1986 8 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    this is a good video

  • @deaustin4018
    @deaustin4018 6 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I suppose this is all Work for railroaders, but it's fascinating for the rest of us.

  • @jerrysinclair3771
    @jerrysinclair3771 8 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Way to go Danny. Great Vid!!!

  • @crc760
    @crc760 8 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    i was told one time the way to tell which track is which is ( How the West was ONE )
    since there is no east - west movement eastbound is CSX NB so when facing East the Left track would be track 1

  • @jovetj
    @jovetj 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    4:20 A pedantic complaint example... the signal is *Yellow over Flashing Green over Red.* You cannot ignore that lower Red-it's part of the aspect just as the other lights are! On this signal, it doesn't _really_ matter, because it means the same whether it's there or not (which is why you didn't mention it) but on other signals it absolutely MUST be there (or MUST NOT). Nevertheless, all of the lights (or darks) always count, and so must be counted.

    • @michaelhues6408
      @michaelhues6408 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The YELLOW over FL GREEN over RED is "clear to limited" Proceed, approaching next signal at limited speed. This is a speed reduction signal. The next signal will most likely display an aspect that will then send the train movement across a reverse switch. #20 turn out for example is good for LIMITED speed or 45 MPH. I haven't watched enough of these videos to know everything Mr Harmon is discussing but here's an easy way to think about railway signals. If the top or "A" head is CLEAR (anything other than RED) then the move is proceeding straight. If the second from top or "B" head is CLEAR then the movement is crossing over a switch. The aspect discussed here has "A" and "B" clear which may seem confusing but as mentioned, this train move is proceeding straight at this location then most likely crossing over a reverse switch after the next signal once reduced to LIMITED speed or 45 MPH.

    • @jovetj
      @jovetj 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@michaelhues6408
      1. This video does not take place in Canada.
      2. I don't know if you replied to the wrong person, but your retort has, really, nothing to do with what I wrote. If I were to summarize what I wrote into your vernacular, it's that the "C" head is just as important as the other two, even when it only shows Red.

  • @donhunking2286
    @donhunking2286 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks again Danny . Once again well presented and informative . Your style of giving a little at a time gives us a better opportunity to absorb and retain the info . Are other roads using the same basic patterns as CSX ???

    • @distantsignal
      @distantsignal  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks Don. The patterns are basically the same with some exceptions. The indications are different. CSX's signaling indications are all about speed. Norfolk Southern and others indicate track occupancy, switch positions and some other things.

    • @thomasdupee1440
      @thomasdupee1440 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@distantsignal In general, eastern RRs employ speed signals, while western RRs employ route signals. e.g. Red over Green on CSX indicates Medium Clear. Red over Green on BNSF indicates Diverging Clear. Medium speed on CSX is defined as 30 mph (but can be modified by the timetable at certain locations), while Diverging speed at any location is designated in the timetable. Diverging speed could be anything from 60 mph to 15 mph depending on the timetable instructions at that location.

  • @YardLimit
    @YardLimit 8 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Great video. Thanks!

  • @rileycummaudo8612
    @rileycummaudo8612 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    As a Victorian who lives in Australia some of these signals like Yellow/Red or Red/Green look familiar to me and have the same meaning as the USA etc... but we just call them different names “normal speed warning” “clear medium speed” (by the way in the state of Victoria where I’m from it is 40km/h unless the speed is displayed elsewhere

  • @SD40Fan_Jason
    @SD40Fan_Jason 6 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Okay look, I can simplify this for you guys in just a few paragraphs. When it comes to mast signals, start from the top and work your way down. If the top is displaying green, go no further, you have a clear track and you may proceed to the next signal, regardless of the rest of the signals.
    Is the top yellow? That means at the next signal you are running out of this track, unless the next lights below display something other than red. So in that case, is the middle light green? okay then that means you have another track to go to and you just have to slow to medium speed when you get there. Is it yellow instead? That means you are going to have another yellow light at the next signal, be prepared. Is the middle light red but the bottom light is green? It means the same thing as the other green light; you are running out of track and you are shifting to another track at the next light, but this one is SLOW.
    Is the top light red? You have run out of track. Except if the second light is Green? So you are still out of track but you are shifting to a new track, take it at medium speed and then you can proceed to the next signal. But is the second light yellow? So then you are still out of track but you are shifting to a new track, only to run out of track again at the next signal, unless the bottom light is also green, which indicates when you get to the next signal, you are shifting again, take it slow when you get there. Or is the bottom light yellow? Then this means you are out of track and shifting over to the next track where you are running out of track again after the next signal. But is the middle light also red? Yep, you are still out of track, but if the bottom light is Green then you have to take it SLOW as you shift to the next track and then proceed on to the next signal. but if the bottom light is yellow, you need to take it slow as you shift and then prepare to stop at the next signal.
    If it's not all red, then it's not red at all. If you are looking at all red, you must stop.
    Now here are the exceptions:
    Flashing lights are more permissive than solid lights. Therefore a flashing middle green indicated Limited Speed rather than Medium speed.
    Markers such as a "P", "G" or milemarker on a signal make it an intermediate rather than an absolute signal, therefore all-red only means "Proceed at Restricted Speed"
    Any time a Lunar aspect is displayed regardless of position, it means you are leaving CTC territory and entering other-than-main track with "Restricting" which means you do not need any additional authority beyond that signal.
    Speed signalling used to be referred to as Maximum speed, LImited Speed (45MPH), Medium Speed (30
    MPH) and Slow Speed (15 MPH), but for the past 20 years or so, Timetable speeds overrule signal speeds. As such, CSX changed their "Slow Speed" to 20 MPH so that trains do not attempt to run at a speed that will cause harmonic rock. (13-17 MPH)

  • @koryclarke1991
    @koryclarke1991 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Danny Harmon is your CSX signals DVD still available?

  • @notinuse00
    @notinuse00 6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    this ii so cool tanks fore the video

  • @BellsAndWhistlesPhotography
    @BellsAndWhistlesPhotography 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The CSX engine @2:52 is a heritage unit

    • @cpttankerjoe
      @cpttankerjoe 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Is it really?

    • @BellsAndWhistlesPhotography
      @BellsAndWhistlesPhotography 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yes. If you pause it at the right time you can see the white emblem on front of the locomotive number

  • @generaldecker9971
    @generaldecker9971 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    thank you ...learned alot

  • @gracenauen9828
    @gracenauen9828 7 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Danny do you have the whole set of How to Read the Signal series on DVD and how $ is it.

    • @distantsignal
      @distantsignal  7 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Hi Grace. Yes, I have the whole Signals series on DVD. It is $25.00. Send check or Money Order to Distant Signal 405 S. Dale Mabry Hwy #138, Tampa , FL 33609

  • @Bag_monkey
    @Bag_monkey 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Here's my suggestion for a logical light system (one light necessary):
    Solid red: stop
    Blinking red: expect stop at next signal
    Solid orange: proceed at lower speed
    Blinking orange: proceed at lower speed, expect stop at next signal
    Solid green: proceed at max allowable speed
    Blinking green: expect lower speed at next signal

  • @kylehill3643
    @kylehill3643 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Legends say to this day 16 folks are STILL waiting at the 1:30 level crossing. Is it having some kind of spasm attack?

  • @christophermurphy4030
    @christophermurphy4030 8 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    i had a question about the signals at Valrico were they getting replaced cause i saw a couple of signals that we not facing the track??

    • @AbelG8781
      @AbelG8781 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Those are new. That way the crews dont look at them.

  • @johniacono3725
    @johniacono3725 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thanks Danny!

  • @RMSAquitaniafan55
    @RMSAquitaniafan55 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    1:34, does anyone know what horn this is?

  • @joedidonato9465
    @joedidonato9465 ปีที่แล้ว

    Are you still rail fanning in 2023? I just started watching your video’s. I’m a snowbird and have a place in Davenport. I’m hoping to me you someday.

  • @elizabethcockrail5335
    @elizabethcockrail5335 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Which track is which when you're facing east/west?

  • @desertfoxx1823
    @desertfoxx1823 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I was always curious, but why are the signal lights different from regular traffic lights? Traffic lights have red on top, but train signals have the red at the bottom.

    • @csxfloridafunnelrailfan3065
      @csxfloridafunnelrailfan3065 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I'm not sure exactly why but I would assume they would want to have their most permissive movement signal (green) in the top lens of the signal. the signal head goes in exact order of how restricting the aspect is: green, then yellow, then red. some signal heads have a fourth indication called restricting which would be the lens just above the red signal.

    • @andrewburlin6361
      @andrewburlin6361 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      CSX Florida Funnel Railfan Interesting enough, in Ashtabula Ohio, the signals on the Norfolk southern line are still an older model where the red is on top and looks like an actual traffic light.

    • @jamesbradleyjr.4170
      @jamesbradleyjr.4170 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      The reason why the lights are reversed from traffic signals is very simple to explain. In the early days of railroading, long before electricity was available, station masters used a ball hung on a string to indicate whether or not the track was clear. If the ball was up, or high, it meant the track was clear. If the ball was down, or low, the track was occupied. This is where the railroading term "highball" comes from. So when a signal is green, which means "clear", you will hear the engineer call out on the radio "highball". To "highball" means to proceed at track speed, which is the same thing a green signal means. That is why the green is on top, and the red is on the bottom.

    • @salguzman802
      @salguzman802 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Well from the way Danny explains it it does make sense why the green is at the top , because the green indicates clear, clear head which is the most fastest speed possible, and red is stop. So if you think of the red indication being the most restrictive it would be at the bottom considered low if you think about green being high is the highest speed ever and approach being Amber in the middle which is a medium speed of high. Since when the green is in the middle signal between the top and bottom heads on a pole Mass especially when it's flashing limited clear or, when you have a mass with two heads and you have a flashing green at the bottom medium clear. So whatever is at the tippy-top means the most clearance possible.😁😁😏😏😎

  • @Hellodarknessmyolefriend
    @Hellodarknessmyolefriend 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    Dosen't freight trains are posted lower speed of passenger trains allowed

  • @TrainsGalore400
    @TrainsGalore400 ปีที่แล้ว

    Would it be possible to see a: Red over Flashing Yellow Light. In your signal light videos distance signal?. A Limited Approach. When a train is approaching it and knocking it down.❤🥰🙂👍🚂🚃🚃🚦🚦. That would be Awesome to see. Thank you for your videos distant signal. Love Trains.

    • @distantsignal
      @distantsignal  ปีที่แล้ว

      I'll see what I can do.

    • @TrainsGalore400
      @TrainsGalore400 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@distantsignal thank you Sir. I appreciate you and your Train Videos.

  • @KDubielak
    @KDubielak 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I love norfolk southern railroad you csx union pacific amtrak and other railroads

  • @KDubielak
    @KDubielak 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    For bnsf railroad

  • @treos17
    @treos17 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    had that 4545 last night

  • @Earth_Number_12
    @Earth_Number_12 27 วันที่ผ่านมา

    What happens if the top and middle signal is green

  • @jack5505
    @jack5505 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    There is a lot to keep up with

  • @charlesharwood5705
    @charlesharwood5705 8 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    How rare is it to see a BNSF locomotive as the front power on a Tropicana train?

    • @csxfloridafunnelrailfan3065
      @csxfloridafunnelrailfan3065 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      was it the actual Tropicana juice train or was it an intermodal run with Tropicana cars up front?

    • @charlesharwood5705
      @charlesharwood5705 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      Brian Ruhlen it was going over the Manatee River headed north to Tampa

    • @csxfloridafunnelrailfan3065
      @csxfloridafunnelrailfan3065 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      +Charles Harwood sounds like it was the juice train right out of Bradenton. usually CSX puts it's newer power on that train. I've never seen it pulled with foreign power or older CSX locomotives

  • @zach_light7816
    @zach_light7816 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    2:49 CSX sd60M

  • @ddme098
    @ddme098 8 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    How fast is limited speed

    • @distantsignal
      @distantsignal  8 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I think it's 45 MPH

    • @frankney8284
      @frankney8284 8 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Correct, Slow=15MPH Medium=30MPH Limited=45MPH

  • @ArkadiuszPL
    @ArkadiuszPL 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    In Europe we have much simpler signals. We have just one "head" with 5 lights.

  • @PhearaXT
    @PhearaXT 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    If no lights are lit on the train signal, what does that mean?

    • @distantsignal
      @distantsignal  4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Two possibilities. First and most likely, it's "Approach Lit" which means it's dark until the train gets in range of seeing it, then goes dark again after the train passes. Second, it is malfunctioning. In this case the train must stop until they get dispatcher permission to pass the signal.

    • @jovetj
      @jovetj ปีที่แล้ว

      As Danny said, if the signal is approach lit, then there just aren't any trains around. But, a train encountering a totally-dark signal must treat that signal as _improperly displayed_ and must act according to the signal's _most-restrictive indication._ In the US, there are two main classes of signals: absolute, and permissive. They are easily distinguished. Absolute signals, which require a stop and stay, do NOT have number plates. Permissive signals, which may require a stop but trains can pass them at Restricted speed, do have number plates. These are the most-restrictive indications these signals can show, and how a train should normally respond to them when improperly displayed.

  • @up844fan9
    @up844fan9 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    is this a repeat video ?

    • @vrmntthb
      @vrmntthb 8 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Took em down...now back up and most of us are glad..

  • @northernlites_aura
    @northernlites_aura 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Why they have installed bottom signals which remains red always and yet has no meaning.

    • @csxfloridafunnelrailfan3065
      @csxfloridafunnelrailfan3065 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Because there are signal indications that use the third head. It's not always red except in signal indications that don't require it.

    • @jovetj
      @jovetj 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Railroads tend to be cheap, so it wouldn't be there if it didn't need to be. And sometimes that bottom red really does mean something! As an example, compare rules *286* and *286a* here: signals.jovet.net/rules/NORAC%20Signal%20Rules.pdf And *286* and *292* while you're at it!

  • @tinypeter4745
    @tinypeter4745 8 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    lard a lot today

  • @Hunter_Dawso
    @Hunter_Dawso 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    How rare is it to have Norfolk Southern as foreign power.

  • @alvit123
    @alvit123 ปีที่แล้ว

    I Hope That Guy On The Bicycle Got Arrested For Trying to Beat The Csx Train

  • @KDubielak
    @KDubielak 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    We have a medam clear singl

  • @sebione3576
    @sebione3576 8 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    one day engineers will all be replaced with computers :( maybe not completely but their primary job will be

    • @25mfd
      @25mfd 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      What you say is coming down the pike. But companies all over are lookin to replace humans with machines. That will be a disastrous day for our economy when it happens.

  • @bigtime7724
    @bigtime7724 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Medium clear aka divergent clear.

  • @bidenisatraitor7633
    @bidenisatraitor7633 ปีที่แล้ว

    I quit csx after going to the refi for 6 weeks and taking one trip . That place is full of liars and back stabbers....

    • @berkshiredave9766
      @berkshiredave9766 ปีที่แล้ว

      How so?

    • @bidenisatraitor7633
      @bidenisatraitor7633 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@berkshiredave9766 the staff hated eachother narked on eachother one got fired during our 6 weeks....total joke ....Rodney brown the dude running the place kisses so much ass he's got another promotion...he was a total arrogant asshole....that's how so