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- You've heard about them, but do you how they work? Or why they suck? Hank explains the science behind performance enhancers, including steroids, blood doping, and that stuff supposedly made out of deer antlers. You'll never look at cheating the same way again!
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Rich Piano is my favourite natural musical instrument
Hey man just gonna take 2 seconds out of my day to thank you for spelling favourite the right way. Thanks!
Well not technically the "right" way. We Americans need to feel special so we do things differently.
piano...
HE KARKED IT FROM A "MYSTERY POWDER" PILED UP LIKE SCARFACE ON HIS KITCHEN BENCH!!
Cheaters always win. Until they get caught.
+AgentWashingtub unless you're tom brady
+AgentWashingtub Even if they get caught, the extra fame you get from being better (and I don't think there is any serious discussion that you can't be Top10 without roids) outweights the fee you have to pay when caught.
if they get caught, they hire ari fleischer
Agent wash, you got caught cheating against caboose!
Perzecute How. It's Caboose. He couldn't catch someone cheating if it was Church who I'm fairly sure Caboose has a shrine to.
this guy injected HGH into his Frontal lobe
thats why he's so smart
hahahhahaha
pedarasipeddama
He's just reading the given script
into his stomach
Pradeep Nayak r/wooosh
Rich Piana is my favorite naturally enhanced athlete
+3Runner95SRB He totally natty. He just gnaws on deer antlers all day.
if you're talking about the guy I'm thinking of....he is SOOOO not natural in a y way shape or form, he admitted to roof usage a few years back.
+Coco Icecream omg roof usage lol...roid
+Coco Icecream You must be fun at parties.
Waddaya mean Ronnie is so much better than Rich only thing is that Ronnie Coleman is completely natty
Whoa whoa, wait 1:34. GH is not CONVERTED to IGF-1 in the liver. IGF-1 is produced by the liver in response to GH, but it's not one protein being converted into the other. This is like saying a phone call is converted into a pizza when I order pizza by delivery. The signal (GH/Phone call) instructs the manufacturer (cell/pizzeria) to produce and release the new product (IGF-1/pizza). And by the way, GH does also have some direct effects on growth apart from the production of IGF-1.
Also 5:10 steroids do NOT, I repeat, DO NOT have a receptor in the cell's membrane. As they are lipids, they go through the membrane on their own, and then bind to receptors INSIDE the nucleus directly. The androgen receptor officially designated NR3A is attached to DNA in the nucleus and sits there waiting for an androgen (such as testosterone) to bind to it.
Hope it helps :). Sorry if it sounded rough, but I have a pharmacology exam tomorrow about exactly this subjects (among others) and if I were to say those two things my teacher would rip my head off :P.
I don't know if you're right but I don't know enough about performance enhancing drugs to dispute your statement.
The Awesome Gaming Bros
Source: Goodman & Gilman's The Pharmacological Basis of Therapeutics, 12th edition. :)
Nahuel Méndez Diodati Thanks
Oh the irony..
A teacher that will rip your head off for getting a steroid test wrong.
Tom Evans Well, I was talking to the whole SciShow team, not Hank Green. Why should it make any difference if Hank himself actually knows and understands the information he's transmitting? The only thing that matters is that they as a whole show try to be as close to scientific fact as possible. This is an informative video, so its goal is to INFORM and INSTRUCT us viewers, not to proclaim "Look how smart Hank is".
A lot of musicians use propanolol as well, especially classical musicians like pianists or solo violinist where they're expected to play from memory. The pressure of having to play a couple thousand notes in the correct order in front of a massive audience without sheet music can be fairly nerve wracking. The physical effects of nervousness and anxiety (the shaky hands, the inability to make your fingers move fast enough or press hard enough) can destroy a performance no matter how mentally prepared you are. A lot of them turn to drugs like propanolol that don't really effect your mental clarity especially students doing exam performances or entrance exams where more than just your reputation or ego is at stake.
I've tried it. It is mild (like aspirin for a headache or one drink). You still feel quite nervous, just a LITTLE less than before taking it. It is also taken to lessen back spasms (it doesn't stop them, but makes them slightly less strong).
(I've never tried valium, but I imagine that if FAR stronger)
Then how do the champions who do it legit get their stability from, a ghost?
I have a really bizarre, and probably completely immoral thought... but I secretly wish they'd do a version of Olympics where there's no drug regulations whatsoever, with the exception they have to list all the stuff they use, so the drugs is seen as no more than the advanced equipment they use, just to see how much "better" humans can be when using drugs to enhance the performance.
I've been saying that for years! And I do not feel it is immoral, it's to exhibit people who want to take themselves as far as they can go. Be all they can be with the aid of science, genetics and will.
so much death...
@@noobednatherium4082 "Death is not the end, but a unscartchable undeterable soul's mark of immortality " - Sun ju
@@chadester001 ok?
There's no such thing as a fair competition anyway. I say that they should work the kinks in some of these treatments so we can have shortcuts to getting fit. Its not like we're going to start sitting less any time soon.
Work out normally. Stop being lazy.
***** Cut firewood and hunt game normally. Stop being lazy.
Yeah. Yeah. Wonderful advice for an individual and all that, but that was a collective 'we' not a royal 'we.'
The human body is designed to fight to survive for like forty years and then hurk dead. "Working out" isn't a solution to our maladaption to civilized life, it's a clumsy workaround. You spend time and effort simulating the strains of an entirely different lifestyle just because that's what your body needs you to do to stay functional.
Victor Barros Compalining without taking real action to fix a problem is bitching. Working for a living solves for food, water shelter, entertainment.
Telling someone else to do the work of making you fit without effort is bitching, Real solutions exist use them or make the better one yourself.
Don't yell at others to do a job you don't know is even possible.
***** Yo. Call someone up and talk whatever it is out. You sound like you've go quite a bit on your mind and nothing you just wrote had anything to with the comment you replied to. It's not health to lash out at strangers like that.
Propranolol is also used to treat Migraine. I was prescribed that before they switched me over to Topiramate because the Propranolol wasn't working. I had no idea it could be used as a doping agent. Good thing I'm not an athlete :)
6:23 - Hank slipped up, as the text says 20 *percent* but he says 20 *times*.
There's also doping in robotics competitions. It was actually a huge problem at the 2014 California state championship for VEX. Roughly 2/3rds of the teams were suspected of tampering with the motors in ways that increased output and put them at an illegal advantage. But only one team was actually caught because all the other dopers had spare, non-doped motors for inspection.
ATTENTION IDIOTS COMPLAINING ABOUT THE INTRO
They stated that it would take several weeks before the intro would get reanimated and fixed. Just calm down and wait.
if you have the choice between all those things and losing.. I'd rather lose a championship than my body
***** I don't understand why people go in to being an athlete and think it's going to last their whole life, though.
I understand that you should want to do it, perhaps. Or that, you could consider a short time within that field. But I think maybe you can think of going a different route, when you start to think that your body can't keep up.
I'm not sure of what kinds of money athletes like that make, but I'm sure it's more than me, and I'm sure they're able to find those different routes a lot easier.
Did he list negative side effects for blood doping?
***** - Hey, they're paid millions of dollars to be the best. If they want to dope and destroy their body, whatever.
Those drugs are only illegal because of the side effects. Most of the athletes didn't want to pay the price and so they banned them. If they redirected their energy from explaining why it's bad to trying to figure out how to remove the undesired effects while keeping the increased performance, that would be beneficial.
Not a lot of people have a problem with people using vitamin & mineral supplements, do you think they wouldn't use steroids if there were no drawbacks because it's "unethical" or cheating"?
not entirely true.most of the health problems related to steroids are still largely debatable due to the difficulty of conducting accurate studies... there is also banned (but not illegal) supplements such as peptides and SARMS which show anabolic effects but have hardley to nil side effects from taking them....hell,even some creatines are forbidden to athletes...the reason why these supplements are forbidden is because it gives a notable advantage over someone who does not have excess or is not taking the same product.
88rowey Someone who does not have access? Hmm, you would think that all professional athletes would have enough capital power to purchase those products.
At the end of the day it all comes down to advantage, whether it be genetic, financial or the use of illegal substances. While genetic might be the least notable advantage, it is an advantage none the less.
NOBUNAGA1991 some professional athletes in under develop countries cannot afford exspensive supplements and treatments.....thats not to say i dont agree with you.there is multiple levels of what you can define as an 'advantage' and i actually believe genetics is a huge one....furthermore i personally dont beleive steroids should be illegal for people who are not competing and just wish to better themselves as long as its monitored by a medical professional.if people are allowed to destroy their livers and lungs by drinking and smoking then a person should be able to take performance enhancing 'drugs'
They can't remove those undesired effects because those effects are tiny things we have a little bit of but since we bulk up the positive things we produce naturally those will bulk up too.
He's talking about the science of the performance enhancing drugs. So no, it's not " like listening to a fat dude talk about diet products" he was talking about the dangers, and the SCIENCE BEHIND THE DRUGS. Jeez.
And the abundance of super deer in new zealand is real.
The reason for the 4% increase in sprint performance in cycling is due to the added mass from the HGH. The sprinters in cycling are generally the guys who are taller, heavier and have larger upper leg muscles. This is because of the extra force exerted by gravity on the down pedal and because of this they don't have to push as hard on the downpedal.
Always love scishow videos, but one thing I noticed in this one was the 20 day HGH study. In adults 20 days of HGH use will yield virtually no results. Cycles usually of 6 months or longer are required, during which results will begin to appear after 2 to 3 months of use
Growth hormones is very big in real football( not handegg). They use it to be able to play more games per week, since it speeds up your recovery. It´s also used when players get injured. Im not sure if it enhances your strenght, speed or stamina, but it is very effective if u use it to get a faster recovery.
look back through the video,
the green screen makes your neck look fuzzy
You can also spend a feel months in La Paz
Can we cut the judgement part from all of these? Seriously, I feel like half of these videos are PSAs. Can we discuss the pros and cons without pulling the holier than thou crap?
Receptors for lipid-derived hormones are not situated on the cell membrane. Since lipid-derived hormones freely walk through the bi-layer lipid membrane. Receptors for the are dissolved in the cytoplasm.
Living or having a training session on Highlands is also Blood doping
It gives you more red blood cell, which is same with blood doping
Was SciShow paid by anti-doping agencies to release this? Usually their videos aren't so strongly biased.
Deer antler velvet and deer antler spray is natural. It contains growth factors, including IGF-1, which can help with muscle growth, endurance and recovery. Athletes swear by it.
hGh is used to be able to train 7 days a week without the soreness that accompanies lifting. More training=more strength. You take it to get ready for a contest not to boost your performance the day of the contest.
Wait wait wait! North Korea participate at the Olympics!
Not mentioned here was amongst other things Caffeine, and synthetic Adrenaline / Epinephrine.
Caffeine is a mild performance enhancer for both mental and physical activities in dosages on the order of one to a few energy drinks. (100mg+)
I know some weight lifters who used moderate dosages of Epinephrine to boost their maximum lift during the hardest part (fewest reps) of their training cycle to increase hypertrophy. In higher dosages you increase the risk of tearing the muscles because you are essentially putting your body into overdrive using "fight or flight" mechanisms usually reserved for life-threatening situations, where tearing a muscle is preferable to dieing.
I Just had a presentation on this at school. WHY DIDENT YOU UPLOAD THIS LAST WEEK.
If the choice is about making millions and fame and glory or being a nobody, you have to choose PED. That's why they do it. They didn't take lance Armstrong's money away. Of course he should never had admitted it.
anyone else notice when he said "since your body uses 20 times more oxygen during exercise than while resting" when the text said "20%l
The amount of people actually trying to defend the usage of any of these methods is just hilarious.
Good advice at the end there, Hank. But based on my traumatic experiences with athletes in high school and college, do you really think a typical athlete watches videos like this or can even understand a fraction of the words you used if he did?
Yes granted I’m only watching due to school
Yes as athletes are taught constantly on the topics of the human body and aspects of it relating to sports before they get into it.
as a child with a growth deficiency (cyst on my perpetuity gland) and insulin deficiency. being like this sucks , i have to take pills and injections every night to function normally. its like a step below being diabetic. so don't comment badly
I do understand the restrictions surrounding PEDs, so the following paragraph is more hypothetical and slightly devil's advocate, but even still I think it's something we should genuinely consider, even if briefly before it's dismissed.
What's really so wrong with doing things that improve your performance? Wearing shoes makes people better at running, and the better the shoe, the better the performance enhancement. When athletes started competing in running competitions with specialised, spiked shoes they didn't ban the use of shoes and make them run barefoot (although they did in the original Olympics, I will point out). If taking propranolol makes you tremble less, and your trembling is costing you shots when you shoot, why not take it? How is it any different to a situation where spikes on your shoes makes you slip less and slipping is costing you seconds in a race? Similarly, what's wrong with taking a drug that speeds up recovery from an injury? If your career is on hold for as long as you're injured, surely you'd want to get back into the game ASAP, what's wrong with that? I'm actually surprised they don't make that kind of thing mandatory for professional sportsman who receive an injury (at least one that actually works to speed up recovery... this deer thing, I dunno)- people take drugs to speed up recovery from infections, are we saying professional sportsmen and women should be banned from using those as well?
Anyway, that's just my little rant on the topic... something to think about I hope.
Yeah guys? What's wrong with taking heart killing stuff and stuff that makes women turn into gorillas? And so what it's their choice forget the legitimate athletes that train for YEARS to win but because some guy smoked weed silver medal for him.
6:25 you said 20 times but the screen says 20 % XD
I really don't see the problem with doping. It's still their body, it's not like they have a mechanical implant. By all definitions they are still only performing within their body's limits.
if this video interested you in Performance Enhancing Drugs
You should watch the documentary that goes beyond the subject, Bigger Faster Stronger
Really amazing.
I'm sorry but everyone I've known from all circles who was into being an athlete and working on their body always took some some kind of "performance enhancing" pill/food/drink/etc.. If I had to guess, I'd say a great majority of professional athletes probably take something and it's just never detected.
You are absolutely right! I worked for an athletic supplement company and it is virtually impossible to compete at the level of a professional athlete without using some form performance enhancer.
True but many of those don't really have much of a measurable effect, can be gotten "naturally", and/or have very little side effects. For instance, a healthy diet will usually boost performance better than supplements.
Andy Calhoun
My old man played some pro football back in the day and took no steroids or supplements. IIRC though his college coach tried to get him to take steroids (he refused) and the coach was discovered and fired.
That is just a example of how prevalent they are in athletics when they attempted to get him to try. I'm not saying that all top level athletes take them, but I will say that there are a large number of them that do so they can compete at those levels. Your father was obviously one the the gifted individuals and had the wonderful genetics to be able to compete and not need to use them, but for a lot of the other athletes out there they don't have that advantage and therefore utilize them to enhance the abilities to be able to compete.
Heyyy! I was just studying IGF-1 for my animal developmental biology class!
That was very informative and an all round great show as usual. I just have one tiny gripe; 'Bicep,' should be, 'Biceps.' We talk about a biceps muscle. I know this is nit-picking, but I'm sure you want to get everything absolutely right. Thanks for the shows and keep them coming. Best wishes.
Who else thought SciShow would've corrected their Apollo blastoff scene in the intro?
Throughout this whole video, not only was Hank delivering a lovely video, you could see it in his face- he was just thinking WHY WOULD ANYONE DO THIS WHO WOULD YOU EXERCISE ANYWAY WHY SHRUNKEN TESTES GUYS SHRUNKEN TESTES.
Deer antler velvet is part of the early growth phase of all antlers on all deer every year.
As a 13-year-old competitive BB gun shooter, I can say that getting nervous about your score makes your muscles tense up and start quivering, therefore bumping around your gun and making you get 2 points when you were aiming for a bulls-eye. Cheating using hypertension drugs seems kind of smart, but hey, cheaters never win.
Wow, I've watched enough Scishow today, I've started talking like Hank.
Funny, I remember reading Footrot Flats comics (about a dog on a farm in NZ), where there'd be periodic story arcs about some of the dogs chewing on deer antlers to make themselves more virile. Had no idea humans did it too.
Do a video on the effectiveness on the less illegal muscle builders? Creatine etc?
Athletes such as football players don't take HGH for the hopes of power or an extra boost. They take it to shorten the recovery time after playing on Sunday where men literally try to take each others heads off.
Although similar to blood doping, you forgot to mention altitude doping.
So a lot of the data Hank is using is misleading and some cases false. If you want to get a more informed(and less biased?) view on performance enhancing drugs I would suggest the documentary Bigger, Faster, Stronger.
It also would have been nice if he mentioned probably the most widely used performance enhancing drugs among students Adderall and Ritalin. Hell even caffeine deserves an honorable mention.
You should do show on performance enhancing drugs in school such as adderall, ritalin, etc.
I don't see why blood doping is such a negative thing. I mean yeah, cheating and strip him of his medals and all, but you put it in context with other very damaging steroids. I simply don't see how it's harmful. If I wanted to run some huge distance just to see if I could do it, and was ok with blood doping to accomplish the goal, what would be the harm?
www.webmd.com/fitness-exercise/blood-doping?page=2 Apparently it's pretty dangerous, known to cause blood clots, which makes total sense. The thicker your blood, the more red blood cells, but also the easier to get a heart attack or deadly blood clot.
Not to mention that EPO can cause such high blood viscosity that athletes have to get up periodically during the night and exercise in order to avoid having heart attacks O.o
We should make a separate class of whatever competitive sport this applies for; for athletes who want to use Enhancing drugs. That way we can study how works on the body with more accuracy by knowing exactly how much "blank" the athlete used. Also The athletes who want to push there body in this way can and hopefully cheating in the "drug free games" will decrease. Idea possible?
Could you guys do an episode on protein and the pervasiveness of high-protein diets? I know folks who are eating 400 grams or more a day. I think there are a lot of people who don't understand the role of dietary protein and assume that carbs = bad and protein = good. Not true, obviously!
+flyingfree333
It is clear that you don't know what the word "hypocritical" means. While I'll agree that the line can be hard to draw, to act like there is no difference in efficacy or unintended detrimental effects between these "hacking" methods is ridiculous.
If you ain't cheating, you ain't trying. TIL that the side effects of steroids are about 1/10th as severe as most drugs from commercials on TV.
Holy Cow Hank- dropped the ball here about HGH- athletes know it works. Reminds me of all the studies in the 1970s that said steroids don't work
I was on Propranolol for my heart, and I had heard it was used for those sports where you need to have a calm hand (also in people taking exams which was a surprise.) I just question most sports now...it's hard to trust people in sports, which I think is quite sad....
hi
your wrong. the sarm called mk-677 can increase igf-1 allot. and allso studies on egcg tabs increase igf-1
Wonderfully informative as always! Another great job, Scishow!
If you are at all informed in the field of PEDs, you would know that this is rather garbage information.
there is a way to naturally increase red blood cell count, there is a way to naturally increase red blood cell count. they can take up the years to get to that position but you can also keep it for several months.
I'm 34 years old and the only thing I need to bring my testosterone level up it's a beer!
Beer actually has the opposite effect.
for you!, stress ruins my libido, beer makes me relax and increase my sexual drive.
Your testosterone levels are raised in your brain. I know i love beer. But your estrogen levels are actually higher from drinking beer. Beer and alcohol are also estrogenic. Thats not to say theyre bad, estrogen helps with bone health and preventing hair loss.
Johny Murgas You just said it yourself, stress ruins libido and beer makes you relax. That is true, and it's very common for people to drink to relax and and everyone knows alcohol tears down inhibition, "liquid courage". It does depend on what you're drinking but nearly all alcohol does not bring a man's testosterone level up.
Sigma6987 He might have mistaken it for adrenaline. I know by experience that when I'm drunk my adrenaline levels can peak up in a pinch.
Steroids get a bad rap simply because we don't have very conclusive information about taking them. there have been literally NO studies done showing long term negative side effects when used in the recommended way. We have only found negative long term side effects when steroids are abused up to this point, and negative public perception also comes from the fact that they are illegal to use in most competition rather than them causing negative effects in and of themselves.
He said in a couple of weeks he'll fix it!! It's been 3 days!
The only thing that makes this cheating is the rules of the race. In the real world this is dedication and a gamble.
"The only thing that makes this cheating is the presence of rules. If there were no rules, it wouldn't break any rules."
Way to take that completely out of context on purpose.
That or it just went over your head.
I dunno man. Can you have a sport if there are no rules? aside from calvinball? dedication to what?
I'm curious about the HCG. As far as I'm aware, that compound only exists in fertility medication women get injected with in preparation for IVF and gets reabsorbed after three days (meaning they'd need to be injected every three days). Where would male athletes even get something like that?
you forgot nootropics, brain performance enhancing drugs, I'm sure many of your viewers, students and all, would be interested in that category of performance enhancing drugs
why cheaters never win, ahahh when your glasses weigh more than you, you don't make it to convincing. aah
so your a small little guy too hahah
HAHA post a picture of yourself i dare you fucking keyboard warrior anyone who says that they'd whip some one online is probably a skinny bitch acne filled nerd.
Sickest II
and you call yourself sickest. that's pretty appropriate since you need drugs and will propably be dead in 10 years.
hahah okay little dog boy with glasses on. hahaha
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SciShow and TH-cam are pressuring me!
still haven't fixed the lunar launch in the opening montage lol
Hank could you please make a video about pre and post workout formulas.
Haven't athletes learned anything? Just don't do sports.
my steady heart rate is 52bpm. is that good? i run and eat healthy..your thoughts. thanks
Completely normal, especially since you say you're a runner
anything under 60 to 70 bpmis really good, I'm not an athlete, guy i eat health and train hard. My bpm is 60 to 65
When you're more active, its lower....
52bpm is below average, but not dangerously so. Normal would be 60-100bpm.
It also depends on what you're doing and what you did the day before - if you're trying to fall asleep or if you ran a marathon the previous day, your heart rate will be significantly lower than usual.
Likewise, my heart rate at rest is steady between 55 and 50bpm. I am also a runner and stay healthy religiously. Feels good man.
No... they are only dangerous if you use them for strength or personal gain, and the only other reason to use them is for medical reasons (like a really bad poison ivy rash.).
I still believe these drugs should not be illegal. It is up to the sports people to regulate it and not the federal government. We should have the individual choice to screw up our lives/enhance it.
The information on steroids is poor and oversimplified at best or disingenuous bordering on propaganda at worst.
Anabolic androgenic steroids AAS have multiple sub types with varying chemistry, effects and risks. moderate doses of human tested injectable steroids have never been found to be the cause of death in anybody.
Only Orally active steroids have ever found to be liver toxic1
Any man who is using sufficient testosterone with their cycle won't suffer erectile dysfunction so you are completely in error to claim or imply steroid use stops you having sex (if anything it's the opposite)2 .
AND 3: The long term fertility risk is so minor that Testosterone is being investigated worldwide as a male reversible contraceptive with a large scale study in china finding that the majority of test subjects were able to regain testosterone and sperm production after coming off of testosterone injections. Adding to this testicular atrophy isn't all that common with plenty of people not experiencing it.
To add anecdote to this, I was prescribed a replacement dose of testosterone for a medical condition and since then I've been running a slightly supra-physiological dose of testosterone with another synthetic compound for the best part of 8 months under medical supervision. My cholesterol, heart health and liver values have all stayed well within the healthy range and I've experienced a dramatically improved quality of life overall. Your barely contained prejudices take away from the discussion and leaves a lot of information out.
John Cheesecake Thank you.
We should create a sport where every type of enhancement is not only legal. but encouraged. It could be used to test technology a biology and lead to real world super humans.
The only PED I take is caffeine.
Excellent recommendation.
I love Hank Green, but he knows the side effects of ABUSING steroids, not USING steroids properly. while there ARE side effects (which are impossible to avoid when you're putting something into your body) they're not the same as the side effects when used improperly.
If an athlete tests positive for any illegal substance they should be banned for life, not just suspended. Even if they only do it once, they have shown that they don't respect the sport.
Maybe you can some time do a video on the ways you actually can improve workout effectiveness and overall strength. Protein powders and Creatine for starts, what effect do they actually have on the body?
I've been on and off anabolic steroids for over 10 years and I have had a kid and zero erectile problems
Doping is likely how Lance Armstrong developed testicular cancer.
who else bid on his bronzed nut
What a ridiculous statement... Please please please take biochemistry courses please please I beg you. If you said maybe prostate cancer or maybe heart problems you would have an argument for those.
smoothnews "Likely" is a matter of probability, not certainty, so it is pretty much the same difference as saying "maybe". So perhaps you should take up a course in very basic English. -- Steroid use is known to have a direct link to various cancers found commonly in men and women who dope. I am a 3-year med student. I took biochemistry in university, long before med school. I question if you have ever taken a course in biochemistry yourself because you do not seem to be aware that he study of biochemistry is merely the basis to all biological studies. It does not argue against my theory at all, whatsoever. It is funny how you say that I should take a course in biochemistry rather than oncology, the study of cancer itself. If you want to be an arrogant piss of knowledge, then how about you show that you know what you are talking about? Maybe start by making an attempt at challenging my argument that you apparently disagree with, rather than trying to be condescending to make your self look educated? Read this peer reviewed study: 'Adenocarcinoma of prostate in 40-year-old body-builder'
***** I'm sorry I can't, or rather, don't want to write a whole long response like yours. I appreciate it though, truthfully. I am applying to med school this cycle. M3 huh? I hope you are not suggesting biochemistry has nothing to do with what you are discussing. I am shocked and appalled however that you prefrace the definition of the vast and crucial field of biochemistry with the word "merely." I did not assume you would take an oncology course, as most of the population outside of medical students and graduate level scientists have the opportunity to such. I apologize for that assumption but you are right, an oncology course would be more appropriate to our discussion. I hope that since I took the time to write this, that you read it in its entirety---something that you did not do last time. If you had done so, you would see that I do not deny the greater risk of prostate cancer. That is a very very basic fact. I won't bore you with the details as I assume you know how it occurs, processes involving such terms such as: oncogenes, enlargement of the prostate, etc. Therefore, regarding the study you posted, we both agree on it. However, I wish that you put peer-reviewed CASE study, so that those not exactly familiar with the nuances of scientific research do not get confused with a larger study. As you know the case study you posted has an n of 1, which you know means that its generalizability is poor. It would be essentially similar if I performed and posted a study named "Adenocarcinoma of prostate in 40-year old cologne salesman." Does that mean that the man's exposure to the cologne fumes caused or increased his likelihood of prostate cancer? No. I hope you know where I am going with his. I am going to put this in caps so if anyone sees this just skimming they get this message. THERE IS NO LINK BETWEEN ANABOLIC STEROIDS AND TESTICULAR CANCER. Not a single reputable, unbiased, and reproducible study has found such. As I said before, regarding other forms of cancer, you might have some arguments. This is just a message to you, and hopefully you can pass it on to your fellow classmates. As doctors, I implore you not to fall victim to dogma. There is a lot of dogma being perpetuated in the medical school system (**AMA monopoly cough cough) that I believe is absolutely damaging to the health and more importantly, THE WELL-BEING of the patient (it seems that the latter is often forgotten). Time after time, in my experience shadowing one of the most progressive urologists in the nation, I have seen time after time patients who have had symptoms of andropause, their previous doctors have just ignored, or just gave them Cialis and sent them off (as many doctors believe that this is a better ("safer") option to TRT. It is disgusting. I am sorry that I rambled throughout but I am tired.
smoothnews I did not say that biochemistry has nothing to do with the subject. I said that it does not argue against my theory that doping is likely how Lance Armstrong developed cancer. So your next step is to learn how to read and stop inferring things that weren't said.
What are those "joint injuries"? I've never heard about anyone harming themselves with a joint?
You should talk about Modafinil, the super concentration drug that students are taking which increases short term memory, problem solving skills and concentration significantly. Students at Oxford uni now get tested for this before tests because it's classed as cheating.
It’s not cheating though. You still need to study.
@user-kv8go2do6v I know, I wrote that a decade ago, probably high on modafinil
Does this mean there's no direct correlation between muscle growth and strength increase?
My little brother has to inject HGH into his body every night (he's 13, and he's the size of an 8 year old). And Hank is COMPLETELY right about the cost - we have to pay $90 dollars for a 10 millimeter syringe... The price is ridiculous.
+Laura Creek If you lived in the UK, that shit would be free lol
How tall is your brother?
I have zero respect for juicers that don't own it. if all you ever do is tip toe around the steroid questions in interviews to avoid self-implication, then don't tell me you got big and strong by just eating copious amounts of food and working hard. If you juice, just use what's left of your balls and tell us!
i cant stop looking at his throat, its soo floaty...
Not quite fair to suggest that no studies find a supplement to be beneficial. It needs to be evaluated in the same scenario that the dopers are using. Whilst conducting research into steroids I found that many old studies said that anabolic steroids had no effect. This was because they had to use such low doses to pass ethics boards and didn't reflect actual doping amounts.
havent fixed the intro sequence yet
Would you guys be so kind as to do an episode about DMT?
That deer spray, at least on the subject of trying to recover faster i think thats not necessarily bad. Healing an injury faster doesnt sound like cheating to me, especially if its something that got torn o_O
You go from career ending injury to actually playing again, which would be nice.
That actually sounds like medical breakthrough stuff :P
Either way, some of these ARE funny XD
HGH supplementation reduces chance of injury which enhances performance.
Mostly I just have stuff like lucky underwear or lucky shirts...
:D
Deer antler spray is a ped? I'd just been doing it for the tangy deer flavoring!
Why is it the words that appear near the left hand corner of the screen are always cut off by the video player?
Dear Hank,
Can you do a video on the use of ritalin, adderal and dexamphetamine by high school/college students to help themselves get better grades?