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He sings from the point of view of the abuser but the choreo shows that he is the person getting abused
Since it was first Taemin's comeback after his very lengthy military service break, during which he had to be transferred from active duty to public service due to mental health problems, some people see in the song and the MV some references to that situation. Other think it as a commentary on his career, which he started extremely young, in a very competitive and sometimes cruel world of entertainment. There are definitely some references to loss of innocence, trauma and anxiety, which can be interpreted in various ways.
Just a simple reminder about shinee. Once ur in u can never get out.
Taemin is GOD of Kpop. His discography is 💯🤌🏼 His dancing skills are insane. As a professional in the dance field, I want to dance the way he does. He is what other idols aim to be. I’m not to familiar with all of ShinEE’s discography (but Sherlock is one of my FAVORITE songs). But they’re such a legendary group and he’s a legend in his own right.
KING TAEMIN ! He is the youngest member of SHINee.
TAEMIN KILLING VOICE, PLEASE!!! 🔥
he said that it is about controlling and being controlled, referred to book about the relationship between erotism and pain, like being the acomplice of his own objectivization and sexualization as a young performer. He mentions breaking the taboo of showing his body, with images that evoque the exhibitionism and voyeurism (peepholes) that are involved in the relationship between performer and the public and finally owning (rather than being the object) of this dynamic.
Taemin has been in the industry for more than 15 years as part of the legendary 5-member Kpop group SHINee and he has been a solo artist since 2014. "Guilty" is his title track on his 4th mini Korean solo album.
I think "Guilty" is a continuation of the themes surrounding Taemin's previous releases. Particularly connected to his Never Gonna Dance Again trilogy of albums -- "2 Kids", "Criminal" and "Idea" -- and Advice album themes.
As Taemin has explained, "Guilty" is about a lover who DOESN'T feel guilty about all the bad things they have done in the relationship and they feel no shame or remorse for the pain and suffering they may have caused the other person. Which, if you connect it to the messages from his previous MVs, this easily could be interpreted as a metaphor for everything Taemin has gone through in his career and life. As an idol, he has been manipulated and controlled his whole life. Debuting at 14 years old, Taemin has lived his entire life in the public eye under a microscope, he is expected to be flawless and perfect, and people are constantly telling him what to do and how he should act, etc. However, now that he has turned 30, I think he is embracing a new chapter in his life where he is saying he is no longer going to allow people to manipulate him and he is officially taking back control. In other words, he's not going to feel guilty any more for being himself and doing what makes him happy.
The story in the MV also makes more sense if you pair it with the 2 teaser videos that were released a few days before the MV dropped. In the teasers you will see Taemin being manipulated even more by outside forces and people who literally at one point hand him a gun and force him to shoot something or someone, which is all part of the metaphor that has to do with taking control of his life, etc.
If you delve in deep you will see that "Guilty" could be interpreted as his relationship with fame and the different sides of who he is as a person and artist. Everything you see and hear can be thought of as a metaphor for life told using biblical references as an underlying theme showcasing Taemin's Catholic faith.The majority of Taemin's songs and MVs touch on concepts, stories and themes from the Bible, as a metaphor to explain what he has gone through growing up as an idol and the journey he has taken in order to find confidence in and acceptance with who he is as a person and an artist.
With Taemin -- and all the members of SHINee -- you will never get the same thing twice. Everything he releases will be a new style and sound and, yet, it will still be very "Taemin". As SM Entertainment's experimental boy group, SHINee are meant to be the first to do almost everything, and they are expected to come up with something new that no one has ever seen or heard before with every release of theirs. As Kpop's trendsetters, the members of SHINee reinvent the industry with every comeback.
Taemin is the main dancer and a main vocalist of SHINee. However, because he is a member of SHINee, this means he can do it all. SHINee are known for the fact that there are no longer any fixed roles in their group, the main vocalists can rap and the rappers can fill in as main vocalists at any moment. However, what they are really recognized for is the fact that they are one of the best vocal groups to ever exist. All of the SHINee members are top tier singers and dancers.
You may find this hard to believe, but when Taemin debuted as a member of SHINee way back in 2008, he didn't have a whole lot of lines in their songs. People even used to make fun of Taemin's singing and they would say that he was tone deaf and couldn't sing. However, it's sort of a misconception that Taemin "couldn't sing." it wasn't that he couldn't sing, it was just that he debuted when he was so young -- he was only 14 years old -- that his voice hadn't really developed yet and he didn't really have a good grasp of how to use his voice and produce the sounds he wanted with it. So, in the beginning, when he sang, he was often flat or his voice cracked or he was off key or out of tune, etc.
And because he was being compared to the other members of SHINee who are all 2 to 4 years older than him, and the other members had such phenomenal voices to start out with, it really made Taemin sound like he was lacking. (SHINee are considered THE premier vocal group that everyone dreams of being as good as.) That's why in SHINee's first few songs Taemin only has a few lines, and most of the time he was just given big solo dance breaks to fill the stage at his parts in the song.
However, if he was really tone deaf, he never would have become an SM Idol trainee -- SM would have put him on the dance track and probably steered him toward becoming a backup dancer -- and he definitely would have never become the amazing singer that he is today. As you probably know, someone who is truly tone deaf is physically unable to hear the difference in the notes and is unable to carry a tune.
Taemin is considered one of the greatest dancers of all time. He has literally been voted one of the top two BEST dancers in all of Kpop by his peers and industry experts. (Kai from EXO -- who happens to be Taemin's best friend since trainee days, and a fellow member of the Kpop supergroup SuperM -- is the other top dancer.) That is why he has been nicknamed the Korean Michael Jackson. Literally everyone in the Kpop industry looks up to Taemin and idolizes him.
But Taemin really wanted to prove to everyone that he wasn't just a dancer, so he spent a lot of extra time concentrating on vocal lessons and the other SHINee members -- especially Onew and Jonghyun (two of the best vocalists in the industry) -- spent some serious time coaching and mentoring him until he learned what it took to match their vocal range and to use his voice. (For the first year or more after SHINee's debut Taemin spent hours in vocal lessons and he would push himself every day until his nose would bleed because he was so tired and worn out, etc. He practically lived in the training rooms at SM.)
The ONLY thing the members of SHINee are not good at is lip syncing, so Taemin, and all the members of SHINee, have specifically trained since their debut, to build stamina and endurance, in order to be able to sing live for 3+ hours straight in concert, all while performing these intense choreographies and still sound flawless. When you watch a live performance, you may be shocked because Taemin and SHINee sound so perfect live even though they are dancing so intensely, but that is why they are so highly respected by everyone. Therefore, when you hear SHINee sing, 95% of the time it will be live.
Other Idols and audio sound technicians, etc. who have witnessed the SHINee members performing live are always blown away, because in the parts of the song where most singers would take a break and rely on the backing track vocals to cover their voices so they can catch their breath and recover, this is where the SHINee members actually ramp it up and become their most powerful.
In Taemin's live performance you will discover that he sounds even better than in the recorded version, all while dancing full out. What makes SHINee so great is that even if they are singing a cappella while performing this high energy choreography, they sound just as amazing. That's why, even as rookies, senior artists would stop what they were doing to watch SHINee's rehearsals on music programs because SHINee's vocal talent is that impressive.
When SHINee debuted, they were the first group to demonstrate how it was possible to sing live while performing complex choreography and still maintain stable vocals. Before SHINee, the thought within the industry was that it wasn't possible to sing live and also perform high intensity choreography at the same time. At that time, most groups would either sing live and have simple choreography, or they would have crazy cool choreography, but lip sync to their recorded vocals. SHINee completely changed the Kpop industry and upped the standard of what it meant to be an idol singer.
Taemin -- and SHINee -- live is unmatched. It's literally referred to as the SHINee standard. It's the standard that all other groups strive to reach, and SHINee are the vocalists that all other artists try to emulate.
Taemin has released at least one song or album -- most of the time way more than just one -- as part of SHINee, as a member of a project group, as a solo artist or as a member of SuperM every year since SHINee's debut. (Except for the past two years because he was on hiatus while he carried out his public service duties as part of his military requirements.) Therefore, including his full-length albums, mini albums, and singles, etc., as well as his Japanese albums, Taemin has more than a dozen solo albums. Not to mention the 2 albums he has as a member of SuperM. And on top of all that, SHINee currently has 14 full-length Korean and Japanese albums, just as many repackaged albums, numerous mini albums, etc. Plus, he has held many solo concert tours, as well as a world tour as a member of SuperM, and SHINee has held more than 100 concerts within 6 world tours so far. You have a TON to catch up on. :D
Now you need to check out Taemin's Killing Voice performance. I have a feeling when you watch his Killing Voice you will find that hearing him sing "Guilty," as well as his other songs, live that you will be even more impressed. There is a reason why Taemin is like none other.
Shinee has been around for over 15 years and Taemin has been a soloist for 10 years that’s a lot to catch up on
Wow yes.. so much!
Yes, a lot to catch up on, a lot of bottled up emotion to release. This song is not what it seems = understatement. What Taemin really wants to scream out has been properly translated and laid out here. Every Shawol that felt haunted by the song was shook th-cam.com/video/KE04kB6pAnQ/w-d-xo.html
You are sleeping on this: Taemin Just Me And You' Special Video @Beyond LIVE. 😉💙
Taemin auditioning at 12 and debuted at 14! So young to deal with being sexualized by people who should have protected him 😢
Taemin is the Best thing that K-Pop Ever had !!! Thank you for the reaction to this incredible Artist.
Taemin has talked about the literature that inspired this concept: Erotism: Death and Sensuality by Georges Bataille and Demian by Hermann Hesse.
Love that Taemin decided to do things his own way with his own colors. I don't see anyone else doing this concept, or even the way in which he does it. Just stunning! Great reaction
KING-TPOP-ART
NEXT
IDEA
ADVICE
DANGER
DOOR
We definitely ask for more SHINee
Taemin - 'Advice', 'IDEA', 'MOVE', 'Criminal', 'Famous', 'WANT' and 'The Rizzness'. Please.
This was a very personal piece of work for Taemin and probably his most important. Being lonely, controlled, sexualized, brainwashed from such an early age 12 (trainee) to 14 (debut) by the industry to breaking free (about 1/2 thru the MV). He closed his first chapter before going into the military and now he is starting his second chapter of his career and it's going to be a wild ride. Please check out The Rizzness his performance video from this comeback. Most of his title tracks have important messages quite often personal and with double meanings. Great Reaction Thanks
-finally some Taemin he’s just everything
Taemin has had a very successful solo career before and after his military service (he just returned recently).
Apart from Shinee, Taemin has delved into some very personal style of music that cannot compare to Shinee music...as a group Shinee is a totally pop oriented style...Taemin goes beyond pop....and his interpretations in dance and sound can be amazing at times, he is one who thinks out of the box, so please don't sleep on him. Check out his mvs "Idea" and "Advice", he is one of a kind.
I'm so pleased you realize that Taemin's MVs/songs are more that what they seem. There are stories layered within most of them and many include very personal revelations about Taemin himself. Let me help you dive into that meaning as I interpret it.
In short, this is not about a toxic relationship between a couple, but rather the continuation of Taemin's toxic struggle between the relationship of the two egos in his mind (indicated by the hand inside his shirt grabbing himself -- it's coming from inside himself): the demon tempting him with the perks of his celebrity life clashing with his Christian self desiring to adhere to his Christian worldview. Taemin LOVES what he does, but the temptations to go astray and embrace a worldly lifestyle are many. This is the cause of his guilt. The person clinging to the attendant's leg is Taemin himself. He's trying to cling to his faith-based identity. He digs his fingers into his own flesh to feel pain and bring himself back to, or hold onto, reality. This personal story concept, initially introduced in his 2016 MV for "Press Your Number", also runs through his 2018 Japanese song, "Under My Skin, as well as 2020's "Criminal", "IDEA" (in fact the entire "Never Gonna Dance Again" Acts 1 & 2 albums of 2020), and 2021's "Advice".
For this particular song/MV, Taemin indicated that he researched both "Demian" by Hermann Hesse and ""Erotism: Death and Sensuality" by the French philosopher, Georges Bataille. His concept is that of guilt and how humans process their guilt, especially with respect to dealing with toxic relationships. For Taemin, this toxic relationship is within himself and is displayed through the character he plays of Abraxas (wearing a headdress and representing the mythological gnostic demigod of a heretical sect, later referred to as a demon). However, Taemin also plays the character of himself being tormented by this internal demon who constantly plagues and entices him to embrace worldly desires. The entire song is a dialogue between Abraxas and Taemin. During the dialogue, Taemin is struggling (the choreo) to fight off being possessed and swallowed completely by Abraxas. We see even more of this struggle in the b-side performance video for "The Rizzness". IT'S WILD! I hope you will also react to that In that PV, you clearly see the demon, "Abraxas" alone (as he's in Taemin's head) all in black and Taemin, with backup dancers, dressed in white (associated with innocence, righteousness, and goodness in religious symbolism while black represents death, evil and chaos).
We see Taemin walking through institutions of his memory such as an abandoned school (which, as an introvert, he hated), or hospital/mental institution (brainwashing-Taemin was extremely sexualized by the industry as a very young idol specifically because he was so pretty and just 14 at debut), and/or training center (SM?), always being controlled and in situations that produce temptations to go against his values. If he is not constantly vigilant, "....when you've caught on (Abraxas), I'm already gone (Taemin)." In other words, he will lose himself instantly because the temptations are so appealing and addictive (as illustrated in his MVs for "Want" & "Famous"). The "poison apple" is the bait, (again just like in 2019's "Want" & "Famous")..."want a bite?" "Just a little more, that's all it takes." "Gift you once as a bait, then I (Abraxas) take everything." The demon is the father of hundreds of lies.
The pre-chorus and chorus are actually further dialogue between Taemin and Abraxas:
[Pre-chorus]
Ooh-ooh
(On that vague border between good and bad - Taemin)
You played the fool for me - Abraxas
(My judgment in the final moment - Taemin)
[Chorus -- all Abraxas]
Ooh, ooh-ooh, ooh-ooh, ooh-ooh
You got me G-U-I-L-T-Y -
Trick and take everything from you
Again, just playing a game all for fun
Hundreds of lies
Ooh yeah
Taemin is a genius when it comes to interweaving layers of meanings into his lyrics (which he often rewrites/tweaks from SM samples to make them fit his concepts) and leaving us mesmerized, trying to arrive at the deepest look into his psyche. This is why he is the ultimate artist for me. Yes, I love his dancing, but it's his lyrical and musical prowess that truly captivates me, while also gratifying my desire for deeper, meaningful Christian messaging that is usually lacking in actual Christian music.
Regarding the leg clawing - I recommend you watch the previews for the MV on the SHINee and SM channels. There's a lot to that scene that didn't make it into the MV. Also, and my read on this may be different than other people's, but I've always felt this song is a lot about rage and self-control in the face of abuse. How he's got all his emotions tied so tightly inside of him while he does what he's told, that he hurts himself. Later, when we see him in the junkyard alone, I feel like that's what's going on inside of him the entire time - the real Taemin, the real artist is able to let go and show who he really is.
A lot of Shawols I follow think, and I agree, that this is about going into the Kpop industry very young and having to struggle against doing what one is told vs. being true to oneself. I think the song is 'Guilty' because he's had to deal with the fact that he's hidden his true self for so long and maybe feels he's misled people by showing the person the industry decided he should be rather than who he really is.
That's just my take on it. : ) I may be completely wrong
You are not wrong at all. A music producer made a Guilty MV explainer with corrected lyrics translation that proved your points th-cam.com/video/KE04kB6pAnQ/w-d-xo.html
Thank you for reacting, I hope you react to more Taemin + SHINee ❤
Oh MY GOD !!!!! So Happy you did this reaction !!!!! PLS react to his KILLING VOICE TOO
Thank you so much for such a great reaction to the God of kpop taemin. Please react to more of his stuff you cant go wrong i pinky promise you. But please dont miss out on his dance practices for each mv it would be a true crime. Rizzness is by far the best form of artistry i have ever seen. Dont let the title of the song turn you off, because he truly sjays in this performance video. Taemins advice, idea and criminal plus the dance practices for each of these songs. Dont forget rizzness!!!!!
Taemin is a GOD. Please more reactions of his work.
Sou uma fã incondicional do BTS, mas Taemin é um artista como poucos, visceral, intenso e dramático. Taemin é pura arte 😍💜🇧🇷
we need more taemin
Taemin is the crystalized multicolor of SHINee.
Subscribed for your future Taemin reactions - I’m pretty sure you won’t be disappointed by anything he has done or will do in the future.
Yes they are all like this with their solo work. so do check out shinee's entire discography and each members solo work
PLEASE more Taemin, more SHINee and their solo work!! They are the ACE in the kpop industry, and it would be a shame to sleep on them, 'cause you are then missing out greatness, artistry and originality. They are not the ones going for what is mainstream, I promise! But it comes with a "warning", and that is the danger of being addicted to them (LOL) I know I got, but it is an addiction with pleasure I dont want any cure of, just more!!
Thanks for reaction ....just Subscribed..please more taemin.he is artist. 😊
Love your genuine reaction ❤❤❤More on Taemin please
More coming soon =)
You need to check out Jimin and Taemin's dance challenge to this @_@ Taemin was also on an episode of "Suchwita" if you'd like to see in a chill interview and he talks about this song and MV.
le sserafim- easy relaed few days ago. epic hiphop vibe. talented kpop girl group
There is a trailer to this MV which shows scenes that aren't in the MV. In the trailer, he's forced to shoot someone and I think the clawing is his angst and guilt. You really have to watch the trailer for Guilty.
Gracias por tu reacción al Dios TAEMIN SUPREMACÍA del kpop SU discografía es única y maravillosa .Pliss reacciona a RIZZEESS es la continuación de GUILTY .es algo maravilloso .Y ADVICE IDEA CRIMINAL .No sé van arrepentir 😊
그는 늘 완벽해지기 위해 노력합니다. ❤
Please react to JUSTHIS - Killing VERSE and Killing VOICE ... In that order, I assure you it will blow your mind 🤯😅
Killing Voice TVXQ, please.
Max Changmin 'Devil' and 'Fever', please.
💎 THE ACE TAEMIN 💎 I Love The SONG & Choreography & MV So Much , I love taemin so much , I hope to see Taemin killing voice & TVXQ killing voice & Red Velvet killing voice please , Thanks 💎🤍
Please react to red velvet killing voice
Killing Verse BOBBY, please.
Reaccionen a forestella a la canción maldita sea mi suerte!🙏🙏🙏
No more killing voices?
More will come for sure.. =)