Maximize Your Retirement Dollars With The 3-Bucket Strategy

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  • 00:00 Intro
    01:18 3 Bucket Strategy
    01:43 Cash Bucket
    04:05 Income Bucket
    06:13 Growth Bucket
    07:43 3 Bucket Example
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  • @daveschmarder-1950
    @daveschmarder-1950 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +62

    I started out with nothing and I have plenty of it left.

    • @joycewright5386
      @joycewright5386 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

      🤣🤣🤣

    • @ErinTalksMoney
      @ErinTalksMoney  13 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

      haha!

    • @-MakeItGood-
      @-MakeItGood- 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      You’re joking but having less means debt.

    • @nickpower-fj9bu
      @nickpower-fj9bu 7 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      So did I but I managed to double it…

    • @JustChill76
      @JustChill76 6 วันที่ผ่านมา

      😂😂😂😂

  • @radiok2ua
    @radiok2ua 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +14

    We're not here for production quality, but thanks for doing the update! I love your down-to-earth approach--thanks for all your videos.

  • @hm51008
    @hm51008 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +26

    Anyone approaching retirement would be well-served to learn everything they possibly can about this topic, and this video is a great start!
    Yes, there are other strategies like the 4% rule, but the 3 bucket approach provides a great learning foundation.

    • @hanwagu9967
      @hanwagu9967 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      The 4% rule still applies for withdrawal.

  • @joethecomputerguy1
    @joethecomputerguy1 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +10

    I don't consider anything you have done as "sub-par".
    I manage my own retirement funds and planning. This is on target with what I am doing.

  • @loganwolfley
    @loganwolfley 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +17

    Love you redoing some of the old videos. Nice to hear stuff again after a while. Thank you!

  • @brandonblahnik6002
    @brandonblahnik6002 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +11

    My plan is sort of a combination of this 3 bucket strategy and the Money Guy 3 bucket strategy. The Money Guy 3 bucket strategy categorizes accounts by tax treatment rather than when the money will be used. Their 3 buckets are tax-deferred (e.g. traditional IRA), tax-free (e.g. Roth IRA), and taxable (e.g. HYSA). My cash bucket will be a combination of various savings accounts (which are taxable) and some I-bonds (which are tax-deferred). My income bucket will be my traditional 403b money which will be converted into a TIPS ladder by the time I retire. I hope to exhaust my traditional 403b money by the time I have to make RMDs. My growth bucket will be my Roth 403b and Roth IRA money. This money will continue to grow while I spend down the traditional 403b money. I will convert my Roth assets to a more conservative portfolio (maybe 60/40 or something along those lines) as I approach age 70. By then, I will have a pension and Social Security so there will not be as much of a need for an income bucket at that time.

    • @ErinTalksMoney
      @ErinTalksMoney  13 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      nice approach!!

    • @hanwagu9967
      @hanwagu9967 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      they aren't different. You would still use the roth, tax-deferred, and taxable, but you would keep your asset allocation of higher appreciating equities in roth, your lower appreciating assets such as bonds in tax-deferred, and everything else in taxable. If you retired earlier, you would need to rely on your taxable asset allocation of cash/cash equivalent, bonds, and equities to carry through until you are able to access your tax-deferred and roth accounts.

  • @terrysnyder127
    @terrysnyder127 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    My three buckets are: Social Security, Pension and the third bucket has a big hole in it. I call it the debt bucket and it’s the largest.

  • @stewdogg42
    @stewdogg42 13 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Very helpful. Thank you!

  • @EricMoore790
    @EricMoore790 14 วันที่ผ่านมา +12

    Erin is good with money!

  • @Jay-es3vm
    @Jay-es3vm 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Great video! Thank you for sharing what you’ve learned.

  • @galens2543
    @galens2543 13 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Always a 👍 for Erin!
    Thanks!

  • @mikepavelock596
    @mikepavelock596 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Thanks Erin!

  • @johnbrown1851
    @johnbrown1851 11 วันที่ผ่านมา

    One of your best videos....good examples of the 3 bucket strategy.

  • @juniorco3109
    @juniorco3109 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    1st time hearing about the 3 bucket strategy for retirement... Thank you Erin for presenting this in your ever charming, informative, and easily understandable way that you always do. I'll definitely be looking more into this!

  • @hownwen
    @hownwen 11 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Thanks Erin. Looking forward to the next video 🤗

  • @babuely
    @babuely 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    I would add gold bucket too

  • @williamcruz5869
    @williamcruz5869 13 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Great video! Looking forward to the next one...

  • @brianlindsay1193
    @brianlindsay1193 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Excellent presentation

  • @therealrichot
    @therealrichot 13 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Great overview of this strategy, thanks!

  • @USCarolinafan13
    @USCarolinafan13 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +9

    Great video!
    I must have listened to too much The Money Guys because I immediately went to Roth, Pretax and Post tax as the buckets 😅

    • @angelachapman4415
      @angelachapman4415 13 วันที่ผ่านมา

      That's where my mind went too! I also listen to them.

    • @hanwagu9967
      @hanwagu9967 13 วันที่ผ่านมา

      they aren't mutually exclusive. You generally want to hold your most appreciating assets or bucket 3 in Roth to maximize tax advantages. You would then hold bucket 2 in pre-tax in bonds and such. Bucket 1 is your taxable account, although depending on what you had access to or not and how much you were investing, you'd break your taxable acct into your overall asset allocation, too.

  • @gabeg2434
    @gabeg2434 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    We’re using the 3 bucket strategy as well. I really like your explanation of this strategy as it all makes sense.

  • @tmwei396
    @tmwei396 13 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I love the 3 bucket strategy.

  • @jdgolf499
    @jdgolf499 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +14

    Great content. I use a 3 bucket strategy that is slightly modified. I have cash equal to three years expenses that aren't covered by guarenteed income. Once we start collecting SS, the amount in this bucket will be reduced. Bucket two is 100% dividend paying stocks & ETF's. The dividend total currently covers about 60% of current expenses, but once SS kicks in for me, in three years, they will cover 100% of our expenses not guarenteed. This bucket replenishes bucket 1, without pulling capital. Bucket three is simply growth, and will be used for large extras, like major home improvement, or medical expenses.

    • @genglandoh
      @genglandoh 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      We think alike great plan

    • @mikesurel5040
      @mikesurel5040 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      I am working toward something similar to this.

    • @ncarabbit
      @ncarabbit 13 วันที่ผ่านมา

      How often do you rebalance this 3 bucket strategy?

    • @jdgolf499
      @jdgolf499 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      ​@@ncarabbit I don't have a set schedule for rebalancing. I have cash to get me through until SS, and along the way, my dividends are going into cash, which replenishes part of my expenses. For bucket two, I look for companies who have historically increased their dividend by 5% annually, which historically, will stay ahead of inflation. I will rebalance if something changes to a fund or dividend stock. If I have a GREAT year in bucket three, I may take some off the table, if I have a known large expense coming up, like a new car or large vactaion.

    • @ericjhernandez17
      @ericjhernandez17 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      I like that strategy

  • @charlotteboy6783
    @charlotteboy6783 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

    My mom is approaching retirement age and asking me all these questions. I will definitely send her this video

    • @ErinTalksMoney
      @ErinTalksMoney  13 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      That makes me so happy!

  • @katlehothamoethata978
    @katlehothamoethata978 8 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Thank you so much, this is helpful

  • @nazeercurry5248
    @nazeercurry5248 14 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    Great content 🎉🎉🎉🎉

  • @darylhaack7752
    @darylhaack7752 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Thanks for posting Erin. Very interesting idea. Keep up the informative videos.
    Cheers

  • @jeremycargill
    @jeremycargill 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    absolutely will use this 3 bucket strategy- I have already started getting my buckets into place and I am 5-7 years from hopefully planned retirement

  • @richard_2672
    @richard_2672 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Thank you so much Erin. Having an income bucket of up to 7 years sounds a long time, especially if markets generally recover in a couple years after a crash so potentially you could be losing out on growth. I guess we're protecting those years and tailoring is key as you say. This is excellent content and can't wait for part2!

  • @Cathybroadcast20028
    @Cathybroadcast20028 6 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Thanks Erin for this fantastic video.
    This is the topic am very interested in and l like how simple and clear its easy for me to understand.
    Thank you so much 💗😊

  • @JB-by8tw
    @JB-by8tw 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    great job on the video

  • @BoxOfRain
    @BoxOfRain 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    We use a two bucket system. The first has five to seven years expenses as defined by RMDs. I’m looking forward to the next video that talks about moving funds from the long term bucket to the shorter term bucket. I’m thinking to avoid taking it during obvious down periods of the market. The point is that you can move it to suit your needs for flexibility.

  • @hogroamer260
    @hogroamer260 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Erin, your video productions quality has certainly improved by leaps and bounds!
    After 40+ years of financial planning, these analogies are too elementary for me, but I get the value to others less involved in their finances. My risk tolerance and situation put me in a much more aggressive posture. If things got messy, I always have the option of beginning Social Security, which would cover all expenses, but I prefer to wait a few years, at minimum. Taking into account the outlook, I only have 6 months' expenses in the now bucket. The other 98% is in index funds and equities, the only other "bucket" I need. I encourage people to research all these financial guidelines but modify them to fit your situation and maximize your returns.

  • @JunkSock
    @JunkSock 13 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Content arc cooking up, nice 👍

  • @ncarabbit
    @ncarabbit 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    love this strategy, great explanation

  • @rickwilliams9001
    @rickwilliams9001 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Nice analysis. Apparently I have already been doing this, but have not been calling it ‘3 Buckets’.
    Thanks for the jargon! 😊

  • @conureron3792
    @conureron3792 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    Thanks for the explanation and the example. I’m doing a similar 3-bucket strategy, with income, cash, and growth buckets for retirement in a couple of years. I took a portion of my IRA’s and got an annuity. The annuity, coupled with social security, should cover the bulk of my expenses. I just need to account for inflation over time and the growth bucket should handle that. I’m currently filling the cash bucket with 5 years of “gap” expenses + emergency funds.

  • @gizmobowen
    @gizmobowen 13 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Really looking forward to tke next video to hear what your strategy is!

  • @tonycrabtree3416
    @tonycrabtree3416 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    6 months emergency expenses and the rest in dividend producing investments covering life. Leave principle alone. Life is good.

  • @TitleWaive1
    @TitleWaive1 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Excellent video. Example SS income numbers seem quite low for the total portfolio but doesn't really matter. You explained concept very well.

  • @7SideWays
    @7SideWays 13 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Great advice! We do this but didn't know what it was called. Hopefully people are selling the froth right now. So many positions are hitting my 'make me move' valuations and cash is earnng 5%. Perfect!

  • @waynewarner6838
    @waynewarner6838 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I’m actually doing the 3 bucket strategy and wasn’t aware..lol..nice video

  • @MrDan01085
    @MrDan01085 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Excellent tutorial on the bucket strategy. I am looking forward to your next video on this topic. Great TH-camr !

  • @KevinDamerell
    @KevinDamerell 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

    love your videos!

  • @thomaschew2191
    @thomaschew2191 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Great content Erin. We currently have a year in our emergency fund and are working on increasing that to 3 years for the day we retire. Our goal is that have a retirement income surplus that will allow us to keep adding to our growth bucket post work paycheck and all that stuff.

  • @SeanRatcliff-cf7eu
    @SeanRatcliff-cf7eu 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Really great video Erin. Looking forward to the next!

  • @Izzy_Gtz
    @Izzy_Gtz 10 วันที่ผ่านมา

    You are doing a very good job with your video content Erin. Thank you for the videos and for all the work you put into it ❤.

  • @nhlekzinmakenqe1079
    @nhlekzinmakenqe1079 8 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Good strategy

  • @williamheilman7904
    @williamheilman7904 8 วันที่ผ่านมา

    As always great content, you’re always on point ! I’m a self directed investor and your info is so relevant. Looking forward to the bucket management video, I lean towards all stocks, versus bond ladders. Income from blue chips I believe is a better option for me, with a good portion in high growth. Love your content!

  • @ebenezerosei9470
    @ebenezerosei9470 8 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Good video

  • @stevemueller7358
    @stevemueller7358 13 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Nice video - as usual.
    I will reiterate something I’ve written before: having additional income streams on top of social security keeps me relaxed about our personal finances. I made some great decisions to accomplish that a long time ago - and I was clueless at the time how great those decisions would turn out.
    With that said - showing multiple income streams in your example deserves more than a passing glance.
    Finally - we just purchased a new car. In a 3 bucket strategy, it was a planned purchase from the middle bucket. I actually used funds from the first bucket and the long term bucket (an IRA because of future tax liability) to fund the purchase of the new car without a car loan.
    I do need to replenish bucket #1 a bit - so looking forward to your next video.

    • @hogroamer260
      @hogroamer260 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      No better time to replenish than at all-time market highs. Do it now!

  • @fredswartley9778
    @fredswartley9778 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    I like the idea of maintaining a certain asset allocation rather than a certain number of years worth of expenses. For example, I might have a 70/30 stock/bond asset allocation and then just rebalance as needed. This seems simpler than trying replenish all the buckets. I would like to have some cash reserves, maybe in tips or CDs.

  • @eas2252
    @eas2252 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    I had a similar plan for rolling CDs for my emergency fund. Not as refined as the 3 bucket strategy.

  • @jameslawrence2553
    @jameslawrence2553 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    Appreciate the content and clear explanations. I’m currently trying to get my girlfriend up to speed financially and your videos do help.

    • @ErinTalksMoney
      @ErinTalksMoney  13 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Thanks so much for sharing!

  • @kiltedpiper98
    @kiltedpiper98 13 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Great episode. I always thought of the three bucket strategy as taxable, tax deferred and Roth. I like this version too.

    • @hanwagu9967
      @hanwagu9967 13 วันที่ผ่านมา

      it's basically the same, because you want your most appreciating type of asset, equities, to be in Roth to maximize the tax advantages. You want lower appreciating assets like bonds in tax deferred. taxable account you can hold a mix of all three buckets, although you'd still want to keep your 1-3yrs of cash and cash equivalents.

    • @shawnbrennan7526
      @shawnbrennan7526 11 วันที่ผ่านมา

      ⁠@@hanwagu9967
      I disagree with how you’ve conflated the pre-retirement 3 buckets and the post-retirement 3 buckets.
      For example, post retirement you will likely want to spend some tax deferred each year to keep from having huge RMDs later. So instead of keeping those assets invested in stocks or bonds, you might want to move some money down into lower risks investments, even if you are keeping that money inside the tax deferred vehicle.

  • @ld5714
    @ld5714 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Hi Erin, great video and discussion as usual. The 3 bucket strategy is a very good approach and helps people kee things in perspective and balance overall I feel. I personally do not use the approach in the sense of seperate accounts etc to match the buckets themselves. I simply look at my overall financial picture as a whole and in the background maintain my balance similar to the approach you described. I just do in in an overall view rather than broken down and seperated. Keep up the great content and have an awesome week Erin! Larry, Central Valley, Ca.

  • @danielmolinari4299
    @danielmolinari4299 13 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I loved the video, thanks for the amazing information. Is that the strategy you plan to use in retirement? If not, what is yours?

  • @yooperluke906
    @yooperluke906 13 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I spied a Yooper shirt! :)

  • @randolphh8005
    @randolphh8005 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Another excellent video and discussion!
    We use a similar strategy now 3years into retirement.
    You put bucket 2 at 3-7 years. I think the number within that spread should depend on your horizon. At age 80, bucket three would be excess money with a short horizon. At age 65 bucket 3 would be a much longer horizon, so bucket 2 should be on the short side of that.
    The other major consideration that you mentioned is the OTHER income. In our case when we hit age 70, all of our “needed” income will be covered by SS. The portfolio will fund only discretionary expenses, so we can sustain a little more risk then for most of our portfolio. Our bucket 2 is strictly for the bridge to SS, and we will just use a 2 bucket strategy after that.

    • @sstrongman1667
      @sstrongman1667 13 วันที่ผ่านมา

      If you look at the total time of recovery for market dips, I would lean towards 7 years regardless of the time horizon. Joe Kuhn has some good videos on this.

    • @randolphh8005
      @randolphh8005 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@sstrongman1667 yes I have seen his videos and agree he has some good points.
      But, his strategy is quite conservative and he is a bit younger.
      We are in no danger of running out of money, so we don’t need to be as conservative. We are also planning on spending our portfolio to near zero by age 85-90, as we have other assets to protect the back end.
      Personally I prefer to use a more mixed asset allocation.
      Joe is both time segmenting his buckets, and his investment risk which will leave a lot of unspent money which is not our goal.

  • @mikebridges20
    @mikebridges20 13 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Erin, I'm very, VERY, interested in Pt. 2! I'm also glad you brought up guaranteed streams of income like a pension, or a annuity payout, or dividends. Also (this is aimed at those who are preparing for retirement), what is your opinion about HSA accounts to pay for medical expenses? Should you build it and hold it for final life expenses, or use it and get the full tax advantages?

  • @scottmuench6855
    @scottmuench6855 13 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Very well explained and an important concept to understand. Can you cover how the three bucket strategy is related to asset allocation? In this example what would their ratio be, do you think this is pretty high on the stock side for a retired couple?

  • @RetirementbyDesign26
    @RetirementbyDesign26 6 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I like the bucket strategy. We have generous government pensions and little money invested. I used a bulk of my savings ti by 5 years of service so I could retire early with my full pension. But we have a good amount in HY Savings. We think this is a way to save even more and be more diversified. We have Canadian / US Tax implications.

  • @tothra
    @tothra 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    I'm going to retire within 3 years. Until watching this video, I have approximately 3 years of retirement withdrawals in a high yield savings account. The rest of my investments are one third each in small, medium and large cap funds. But tomorrow I'm going to look into switching some money from my investment funds into an income bucket. Thanks, Erin!!! BTW, my wife and I had lunch yesterday with our youngest and her BF. I mentioned about starting retirement accounts ASAP, and to at least contribute enough to get the full match from their workplaces. I also added in that even just $100 a month over 40 years in investments can make a big difference. I hope they heard me. I have sent links to your various videos to both our daughters 🤞

    • @poolking25
      @poolking25 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

      I actually like your original strategy better for optimization. Your cash bucket is good enough to handle downswing but you have a lot more invested by not putting into the income bucket.

    • @tothra
      @tothra 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@poolking25 That was my original idea. The three years of withdrawal savings in high yield savings is enough to get through a down market and back on the upswing, by historic data. I do like the idea of the income bucket for more moderate risk investments and then have a third bucket to contain the high risk investments.

    • @poolking25
      @poolking25 11 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@tothra stick to original idea, 7 years of funds in conservative investments is way too conservative imo

  • @davidless57
    @davidless57 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    How much you have in Bucket # one will greatly affect the aggressiveness or lack of in buckets 2 and 3. In my case bucket 2 earns me 12% passive income and bucket 3 is mostly tech high growth equities and ETF’s.

  • @ron5493
    @ron5493 13 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Always good to see a quote from Pirates of the Caribbean, lol (guidelines)

  • @TheNativeTwo
    @TheNativeTwo 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    I have a 3 bucket strategy for investing but it is completely different. I have one bucket for rental real estate, one bucket for ETFs, and another bucket for more speculative investments (businesses, house flipping, etc.).
    These 3 buckets are focused on growth, not retirement. I will probably add a fourth bucket for dividend income when i retire. Hope to live off the dividends and rents and business profits when I retire, and not have to dip into the capital.

    • @ErinTalksMoney
      @ErinTalksMoney  13 วันที่ผ่านมา

      thanks so much for sharing your approach!

  • @paulseidel5819
    @paulseidel5819 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Hi Erin, yes i uße the three buçket strategy but only in my taxable account, I am just figuring out how this will work since i just retired but plan to sell equity in bucket three th fund buckets two and one, plus some distribution from ira which will be taxed as ordinary income. So, i will pay capital gains and income tax.

  • @hanwagu9967
    @hanwagu9967 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    i use the 3 silo strategy...buckets are too small🤣

  • @giveabundance
    @giveabundance 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Great video Erin! One question, at the beginning you said you filmed your first 3 bucket video with an IPhone. What Camera set up do you use now?

    • @ErinTalksMoney
      @ErinTalksMoney  13 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      now I use a Sony camera - I have things linked in my amazon store 😊

    • @giveabundance
      @giveabundance 13 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@ErinTalksMoney Thank you so much Erin! 🙏 I'll buy from your link if I end up deciding on one. Keep up the great work! Love the channel!

  • @rarelycares8416
    @rarelycares8416 13 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I didn't necessarily call it buckets, but I keep a 1-2 years in checking/savings, and then the bulk of our money is in brokerage accounts (pre-tax and post tax) in a 70/30 split, I pull from the bonds to replenish cash and only rebalance when the market is up. My main issue will be getting the money out of the pre-tax accounts before RMD's, recently retired and age 55.

  • @CaedenV
    @CaedenV 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    I like the idea of the 3-bucket strategy as a high-concept ideal... but in practicality life just gets so much messier than that.
    I mean, an HSA is a prime example here. I have an HSA, and we max it out, and we have 2 years worth of medical premiums in cash, and are finally at a point where anything additional is getting invested. When we retire, we will be actively using the HSA for medical expenses. We will also have more of the account transferred from being invested to cash as we will be actively pulling from the account and don't want to be a forced seller when the market is down. But we will also have some of the account still invested... so it is all 3 buckets in one, but specific towards medical expenses in scope.
    In more practical terms, I plan to look at it less like a bucket strategy, and more like... well, like I view finances now. You have income, and you have expenses, and if there is a shortfall then you need to know what to pull on first, and if you can leave some things invested, then leave it alone to grow.
    So I guess the overall methodology is like a 3-bucket method... but just not so cleanly across account types.
    My general rule of thumbs are this;
    1) Keep your income and expenses in mind. There are a few rules unique to retirement, but you likely have SSA, RMDs, and possibly rental properties, patents, and other non-retirement assets that pay you money even though you stop working. Especially with RMDs, after the first couple years, you may be forced to take out far more than you think is necessary between year 3 and 15 and then your RMDs might calm down a bit.
    I guess, don't assume that you are selling assets for income in retirement, especially through the worst of the RMD bump, because you may find that you have more income than you need/want for a bit.
    But just like normal budgeting, keep 3-6mo of liquid cash for emergencies and cashflow choke points. Nothing here changes from normal just because you are retired.
    2) Keep a liquid, or cash-like account to protect investments. Funds capable of covering 3-5 years worth of your minimum required expenses, which may be partially locked in things like CDs, but is generally available.
    The whole point of this fund is to prevent you from being a forced seller. You will have some income, and this will be somewhat invested, so even though the balance may be 3-5 years of expenses, the burn-rate should be closer to 10 years. When markets are down, then pull from this instead of other assets, and when markets are high then replenish this acct. But with a 10 year burn rate, you should never been in a position of 'needing' to sell.
    2.5) Cashflow assets: Rental properties, dividend investing, etc. This is stuff that works in conjunction with bucket 2. When markets are high, take the cash as part of your bucket 1 income. When markets are low, or if you have a surplus, then reinvest this bucket, while using bucket 2 to make up for any shortfalls. But between bucket 2 and 2.5 you shouldn't ever be put in a situation where any real growth assets are ever sold short.
    3) long-term investments: S&P500 simple growth investments. Preverably inside of a Roth or HSA account where you get the tax advantages. When times are doing great, sell off some to refill other buckets. When times suck, then leave it alone to grow.
    How those buckets are divided up between acocunts... oh boy... that is a whole other mess and highly dependant on a person's situation and opportunities. But I think that is the general idea.

  • @kaimulai5178
    @kaimulai5178 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    With your example, you used an average social security income and average living expenses, but a much higher than average retirement savings. It would be better to see this system used with a more average retirement savings amount of between $100,000 and $300,000

    • @transitengineer
      @transitengineer 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      True, you make an excellent point. Retired in my early 60's, last year and while my goal was to have saved $500,000, I had retirement funds of only about $350,000. However, my home is fully paid off, have no college loans, no automobile loans, and no credit card debit. My basic monthly bills are paid using my pension, annuity, and social security (smile ... smile).

  • @superzook5375
    @superzook5375 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Erin, what do you recommend for federal employees with all their money in a Traditional TSP at retirement? The bucket system won’t work in this case since it would required taking a lot of money out of the TSP and be heavily taxed. Also, TSP does not allow selling shares from a single fund so one cannot sell C Fund shares when the market is up and sell G Fund shares when the market is down.

    • @ErinTalksMoney
      @ErinTalksMoney  13 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      you could build buckets within your TSP - ie move some funds from growth to more conservative vs cash like accounts - but still have them within the TSP itself

  • @toantruong7901
    @toantruong7901 6 วันที่ผ่านมา

    If income bucket is ladder CDs, then I think cash bucket n income bucket are redundant?
    Also, you forgot to mention whether retirement saving is traditional or roth which impacts taxation.
    It’s helpful info. Thanks.

  • @NiranjanBendre
    @NiranjanBendre 13 วันที่ผ่านมา

    While we are quite far from retirement (maybe 6/10 or more years) I often wonder about the retirement fund allocation in different types of assets, and good withdrawal strategy.
    Maybe the follow-up video will answer some more questions.
    Thanks for this one!

    • @hogroamer260
      @hogroamer260 13 วันที่ผ่านมา

      You may be retiring in six years, but you may be in retirement for 30+ years. The allocation thing is nonsense. Just make sure you have 1 - 3 years expenses liquid and keep the rest in equities.

    • @NiranjanBendre
      @NiranjanBendre 13 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@hogroamer260 that is what my uninformed retirement plan has.
      At this point of uninformed plan, I would think keeping 2-3 years of expenses in bonds/CD/FD/liquid (for market crashes during retirement) would be enough and rest of the time would sell equity to cover the expenses.
      Although allocations recommended are much higher in debt/bond/liquid etc.

  • @rbigwhitehouse
    @rbigwhitehouse 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Which bucket would you use for the tax-free funds like IULs, and Roth IRAs/401K?

  • @martinguldner3990
    @martinguldner3990 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    You have failed to mention since 1900 there have been several time periods when the US stock market traded in a sideways range for 10+ years.

  • @transitengineer
    @transitengineer 13 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Thank you, for sharing information about the three (3) Bucket Strategy. However, it does not really appeal to me. This is because, my normal monthly bills can be paid using my monthly checks from my pension, annuity, and social security. So, for myself it is a question of how much liquid assets do, I need to cover unplanned expenses that always come up throughout the year. Plus how each year, to re-balance my investment portfolio (i.e. what percentage should be in stable value funds, bonds, and stocks)? Currently, with the stock market at all time highs, I am 70 percent in fixed assets and 30 percent in stocks. If in the future there is a major market correction then, I will reverse this percentage (smile ... smile).

  • @vincentdesalvo1464
    @vincentdesalvo1464 11 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I prefer having my CD's (Ladder) in the 3 to 4 year cash bucket, but that is me.

  • @appleztooranges
    @appleztooranges 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    My hardest thing right now is balancing my investment Vs my now bucket. I put too much into investment and savings and less into myself! You could die tomorrow and what good with the money be

  • @matthewrudomin
    @matthewrudomin 13 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I'd love to see a how to withdraw money in retirement.. Do you take all the money for each year in January or throughout the year? What happens if the market is up or down? Do you use a 1-2 year emergency fund if the market is down? Thanks for the great content!

    • @brandon8531
      @brandon8531 13 วันที่ผ่านมา

      I was literally just thinking the same thing! Say if I retire at 55, do I take a years worth of salary from a 401 all in January, or space it out over several months or the year?! 🤷‍♂️

    • @nanticokeroads8966
      @nanticokeroads8966 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

      ​@@brandon8531I retired at 59.5 yrs and had a set sum withdrawn monthly until age 62. I was afraid a lump sum yearly might be to tempting and end up spending it all before the year was up. This money was from a 457 account and at 62 I still had my 401k plus savings. I also had 2 pensions to add to the 457 withdrawals.

  • @martinz5851
    @martinz5851 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    I really miss the impact of inflation. How does it affect cash and other fixed income?

    • @transitengineer
      @transitengineer 13 วันที่ผ่านมา

      You need to assume inflation will be about three (3) percent each year. So for example, with today's high bank and credit union Certificate of Deposit (CD) rates being between 4.5 to 5.5 percent. Because of inflation your real purchasing power growth is only 1.5 to 2.5 percent (smile...smile).

  • @benwoline
    @benwoline 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    I'm curious how much higher one's spending power is with this method compared to others. There is an opportunity cost with the money not invested in stocks but i wonder if that is offset by mitigating sequence of returns risk.
    In other words, would a 100% stock allocation in retirement actually yield better results, if one can stomach the volatility?
    What is the math behind this method?

    • @transitengineer
      @transitengineer 13 วันที่ผ่านมา

      As she stated using history as a guide, keeping 100 percent of your retirement in the stock market, would yield much larger financial returns. However, if the first three (3)-year period is a major stock market drop without the first bucket, you will be pulling money out at a loss. So, while you may want to pass on having the second bucket almost everybody, will need some form of the 1st and 3rd bucket (smile...smile).

    • @benwoline
      @benwoline 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@transitengineer that makes sense logically, but I hope Erin presents a real world example in her next video.
      Something like:
      If you retired in 1966 with an all stock portfolio, your withdrawal rate would have been just 3.8% in order to not run out of money in 30 years. By structuring, funding, and withdrawing from a three-bucket portfolio in this way, you could have increased that to 5% per year.

    • @hanwagu9967
      @hanwagu9967 13 วันที่ผ่านมา

      it's not a matter of stomaching the volatility, it's a matter of not being a forced seller in a down market.

    • @benwoline
      @benwoline 13 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@hanwagu9967 but which is worse. Being a forced seller in a down market, or allocating a sizable portion away from stocks thus the lost opportunity for gains. Does having the lower risk assets to pull from actually increase your potential withdrawal rate or not.
      Most explanations I've seen describe the situation emotionally or comparatively between retiring in different years. What I haven't seen is the next step where someone takes that failing year, where stocks fall early in retirement, and makes it successful using a different strategy, like the three-buckets.
      So do they just feel good, or are they actually, calculably, better?

  • @afordh
    @afordh 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    I have one bucket...the bitcoin roth-ira bucket. It's a simple worry-free life.

  • @billl1127
    @billl1127 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I understand the strategy but 75% invested in equities and growth products in retirement? Seems a bit high to me.

  • @bacchus2018
    @bacchus2018 10 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I wonder if two buckets would be enough. But maybe it has to do with replenishing the buckets

  • @robloxvids2233
    @robloxvids2233 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +17

    That's a great hairstyle for you.

  • @KATHYFARRELL
    @KATHYFARRELL 7 วันที่ผ่านมา

    The Bucket Plan by Jason L Smith

  • @sodbuster7776
    @sodbuster7776 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Don't kick the bucket 😅

  • @zhouk888
    @zhouk888 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    For your example case, about 75% of retirement saving is in growth bucket. Is it too risk for people at the retirement age?

    • @transitengineer
      @transitengineer 13 วันที่ผ่านมา

      As for myself in my early 60's, I retired last year. With the stock market at an all time high for my retirement funds, I keep 70 percent in fixed assets and 30 percent in the stock market. This is because, I like to be able to sleep well at night (smile...smile).

  • @prkeene
    @prkeene 13 วันที่ผ่านมา

    All these videos on 3-bucket strategies go into painstaking detail on setting up the buckets and how much money to allocate to each but none explain how to actually manage this strategy year over year. What are guidelines for refilling the cash bucket if returns on your income bucket are poor and you have to dip into the growth bucket instead? Or say the couple in this example has a major unexpected expense (surgery, home repair etc) and has to spend $50K in year one from the cash bucket? It just seemed like there were too many gates and paths to the flow chart of a three bucket strategy, which always made me question why anyone would use this versus a 4% rule.

    • @APICSKH
      @APICSKH 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

      That’s called life, this is just a general guideline.

  • @johnnyfive1412
    @johnnyfive1412 13 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Dont forget a bucket for medical expenses to deal with neck pains after watching the TV that is mounted way too high over the fireplace :)

    • @ErinTalksMoney
      @ErinTalksMoney  13 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      😂 I literally LOLed at this one haha

  • @shawnbrennan7526
    @shawnbrennan7526 11 วันที่ผ่านมา

    In my opinion, you’ve got too much in the second bucket in this example.
    Bucket 1 should have 2 years worth: $66k
    Bucket 2 should have 5 years worth (years 3, 4, 5, 6, and 7): $165k

  • @TheFourthWinchester
    @TheFourthWinchester 11 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I know one guy who keeps making the same videos over and over every few months. So, you're fine.

  • @sixstringsdaddy2477
    @sixstringsdaddy2477 13 วันที่ผ่านมา

    You don't explain why this is a "good" solution compared to say, a 60/40 portfolio.

  • @miketheyunggod2534
    @miketheyunggod2534 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I retired six years ago at 55 and only have one bucket. The bank. Were it’s safe.

  • @Betty-dc5ck
    @Betty-dc5ck 7 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Its worse here, our economy is like a flailing fish, fighting for its life. The normal state of the U.S. economy is actually very bad. Because of this it goes into convulsive spasms fighting to grow any way it can out of desperation. Tricks, gimmicks, rule changes try to stimulate the economy and prevent it from falling but they only bring temporary relief to people since, when you factor in inflation we are declining.

    • @Helen-tg4tr
      @Helen-tg4tr 7 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Inflation is gradually going to become part of us and due to that fact any money you keep in cash or in a low-interest account declines in value each year. Investing is the only way to make your money grow and unless you have an exceptionally high income, investing is the only way most people will ever have enough money to retire.

    • @Lisa-jy7bk
      @Lisa-jy7bk 7 วันที่ผ่านมา

      I've tried investing in the stock market several times but always got discouraged by fluctuations of stock value. I would be happy if you could advise me based on how you went about yours, as I am ready to go the passive income path.!!

    • @Helen-tg4tr
      @Helen-tg4tr 7 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Angela Lynn Schilling is her name. She is regarded as a genius in her area and works for Empower Financial Services. She’s quite known in her field, look-her up.

    • @Lisa-jy7bk
      @Lisa-jy7bk 7 วันที่ผ่านมา

      I just looked her up on the web and I would say she really has an impressive background in investing. I will write her an email shortly.

  • @Bur6212
    @Bur6212 13 วันที่ผ่านมา

    All this bucket talk makes me want some KFC and that’s not good for my buckets

    • @hanwagu9967
      @hanwagu9967 13 วันที่ผ่านมา

      cold KFC chicken taste better than hot, so it is good for your buckets since you can buy a large bucket and eat it over a couple of days.

  • @seraeirian2
    @seraeirian2 11 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Cool story. Now do you have a video for actual workers who live month to month, you know, most of America.

  • @skwira000
    @skwira000 13 วันที่ผ่านมา

    This strategy is badly flawed for a person who begins investing before 25. The APY of the stock market was over 10% for 30 year periods ending on March 2009, December 2002, and December 1974. I do have cash for emergencies during my working years. But my emergency fund for my retirement years is in mutual funds. There’s no point in principal protection. If I were to do my 20s over again, I would split my investments up into 30 funds. Then at 31 I would invest in just one of those funds each year until I hit social security age. This way I’m selling what my original investment grew to plus just the corresponding dividends. This way I’m making long term decisions.

    • @JAT922
      @JAT922 13 วันที่ผ่านมา

      This strategy is mainly designed to be used when a person is getting close to retirement or has retired. Its not designed to be used prior to that as you will not be able to maximize your returns