Looks super cool, but unless the streets have been closed I've seen a dozen infractions that fuck the image of electric vehicles. Glad to recognize 90% of these bikes
Let me break it down for you. 70% of NYC cars in recent studies are clocked as Speeding on local roads. Cars kill every single day so have you seen bans on fast cars or sport cars? Are 70% of Car drivers getting tickets? Licensing or not, cars kill every day. Every E-Bike on the road replacing a car is saving lives in dense cities. Go visit a big city ER before hating on BS minor E-Bike infractions. Everyone Jaywalks in NYC too.
@@718og i agree with everything you said but i think he was talking about the part where hundreds of people are riding around not obeying any traffic laws , stops, intersections, no concern for cars or people crossing a crosswalk, i saw people riding on the wrong side of the road into oncoming traffic hahah. There is a term RISKY SHIFT in social psychology, people start doing crazy stupid things just because they are in a big mob. Although I dont think anyone will stop the rides, the authorities and media encourage lawlessness and allow it daily.
@@EBikeBuilder_ 70% of cars speeding and daily deaths are far worse that a few large E-Bike group rides per year. Basically what happens when large groups rides approach is all cars stop or slow down for a few seconds until they pass.
@@718og I'm not arguing with ya mate like I said i agree. You can say relatively it is safe compared to X Y Z yes that is true. The objective fact remains: a large group of people are riding around not following basic common sense laws of the road that everyone is expected to follow in order for the road to function. Did you see what happened with Mister Trudeau in Canada and the Truckers, government loves when these things happen because they can use it as an excuse to take xtreme measures and impose x y z new laws that screw everyone over. Common sense isnt so common I guess
I have a HJM Ebike on the way to replace the one that got stolen. It's a three wheel trike to be exact. Looks like fun riding along with all them people.
Thanks for including my DIY Build I named E-Metron in your vid. Similar frame to a Delfast but my own unique 72v build. Good job keeping up with us on a Bafang!
Great video. Left out a lot of info but understandably so. This event will be redone soon without the issues that arose. Hope to see you out in NYC again
What kind of active cooling do you have on your bike? I watched some other videos from you and I know you drilled holes in your frame to cool off the controller but not sure I see anything about that device you have on it
In my state of NH, the vast majority of those high powered ebikes would be illegal. I'm happy for you folks. I get hassled by cops with my stock 750w and 1000w ebikes with stock batteries & controllers if I go more than 28-30mph.
Wow comments are a little feisty! I do think the fast powerful ebikes are cool and want one myself. However, I do get the feeling that with the mainstream popularity ebikes are getting, we’re probably gonna start seeing more rules and such put in place. Which isn’t what I want. At least they’re not really cracking down on e scooters or EUCs yet.
When you said in the last video you were coming to this avent I was going to say these guy don't ride slow they all have fast upgraded bikes infact I've already seen this ride twice by different TH-camrs but you did well to keep up with these guys o did you see the cake bike 👍🏾
no permits? just total chaos and unwanted disruption i feel for you guys. its going to be tragic when the roundup occurs. $ millions to the junk yard it already in the works.
Who do you have to follow to get the invite for events like this. Id love to ride with a group but idk who to contact. Awesome video and hope this time is better
Get the G62 going mate! You have the battery and controller, whats a couple hundred bucks more to untap the full potential of the build? You will be pleasantly surprised.
The grin g62 6.5 winding is for 26" wheels so it might be spinning slower than you would want on a 20 inch wheel. Grin Doesnt have the G62 modeled in their motor simulator yet. its probably similar to a G60, just capable of handling more current. I plugged the G60 into the motor sim and when i change the wheel diameter from 28" to 22" , its about 20% difference in top speed
In NYC the law is E-Bikes share all 30 Mph roads with cars and can also use bike lanes. Stay within the speed limits, don't ride like a jackass and everything is fine. Cops are not going to waste their time inspecting every hub motor on the road lol.
Don't be that consumerist guy that just buys the Sur Ron to be cool and go fast. Only so much of a "build" you can do; when you buy a prebuilt its like everything is set up and dialed and you don't even want to touch it or work on it. It's more intersesting to see builds and tinkering and coming up with a build that works for you. SECONDLY, with Sur Rons, if it looks like a dirtbike and quacks like a dirtbike, the police are probably gonna give you some trouble. Been riding my BBSHD around for years, see police all the time, never had anyone say 1 thing about it or question it, because it looks like a bike and i pedal and when I'm around anyone I slow waaaaay down. The ebikes that look like dirtbikes are the ones that get pulled over and you're going to end up with a 4000$ POS you can only drive off road, or license and insure and all that rigamarole. I guess you can go race around in the streets of NYC and get away with it because its such a dumpster fire there.
As long as they are not blocking cars, or scaring pedestrians via being a-holes there really is nothing wrong with group rides every now & again. It’s the persons utilizing e-scooters committing crime along with gas cars as we see countless times these past few weeks. Smh They need to be put in their place.
The majority of ebikes in the video aren't even legal to ride on public roads (over class 3) . I feel like NYC will the best first city to crack down on these types of vehicles
Personally, I would stay away from buying a sur ron. They are cool and all but with no pedals and not being street legal, you are asking for trouble. Basically breaking the law every time you ride it unless you are on a dirt trail. I’m seeing way too many people getting cited for riding those. Some have had their bike impounded.
@@htcthunderbolt No that isn't what it means, this is; "seize and take legal custody of (something, especially a vehicle, goods, or documents) because of an infringement of a law or regulation:"...
@@imkrane definition of stealing is taking something that isn't yours without the owners consent. If a cop "impounds" my private automobile, that is the very definition of stealing. Cops can and do steal all the time in the name of the "law"
Amazing the number of trolls on this thread. Thank you for the video. I love ebikes, but todays video was more e motorcycle than bike. PAS is super important to me as a filter between Ebike and e-motorcycle. For me being part of the drivetrain myself is very rewarding. Just my opinion but PAS keeps speed down to “bicycle “ safe speeds, pushes your body as much as you desire it, components are way way cheaper to upgrade and replace. E motorcycles are cool but they are crowding into the bicycle arena, and that group is a very different bunch than typical Ebikers/cyclists. The Suron, especially spec wise, is honestly a crappy version of a dirt bike. If that’s your style of riding for half the money you can get twice the gas powered dirt bike with no range anxiety. And those can handle the bumps. I don’t know why but when I see a suron all I think is someone made a terrible decision. Stick with your custom builds, don’t switch to some cookie cutter motorcycle that can’t really perform any better than a 1500 dollar Honda cub.
And this my friends is why ebikes are going to be banned or heavily regulated in most states. Y'all are going to ruin it for us all. These bikes that go 30-40mph and fall into the moped/dirt bike category are going to take a big dump on the rest of us. Sucks. Make sure you thumbs down this vid. ps in a lot of states you need a moped plate and moped or motorcycle license to be street legal
LMAO! Everyone showed up with dirt bikes. Good thing NYC doesn't enforce any laws anymore. Many of those "e-bikes" should have a license plate on them.
I think it's funny how people on bikes always complain about how people in cars drive. And then the people on bikes just do whatever when riding around cars. Blocking lanes and shutting down roads/intersctions would get you shot around here.
I just don't get it, you have over 5k subs and yet you continue to break all kinds of laws while riding an E-bike, and in one scene you almost ran over a pedestrian in a crosswalk with the light to cross, you should be setting an example not giving government even more reasons to put even more restrictions on E-bikes...
What laws no one cares..most of those bikes aren’t even street legal. You see how nyc is now? No ones worried about ebikes and he didn’t almost run anyone over u cry baby
Bruh. I have a 72v ebike I use as my daily driver now and I am gonna end up having to register it as a moped with the way these laws are going. Too bad I can't because nobody will insure home built vehicles...
@@dapperduckling3951 the laws were already set in 2002..ebike classes were defined already federally..so idk what u guys are talking about of “laws changing”..if ur above 750w ur not street legal. The end
9 minutes and 49 seconds into the video you cut of a pedestrian in the cross walk. You're video and the actions of your group will help to ensure that we'll have a registration process in the not so distant future. This will effectively take away the best part of owning a PEV. I love my bikes to include our ebikes. And because of people like you and your group, ebikes are prohibited 🚫 in certain areas where bicycles are still permitted to travel where I live. Thanks alot..... I'll return the favor by supporting any legislation that places sanctions on high performance ebikes (like requiring a license to operate, registration, insurance, vehicle inspections, and plates). In the future if you want to do a group ride like that, get a permit like they do for the 5 Boro bike tour. 30,000 plus riders on the road without breaking every other law and endangering pedestrians. Such a "Richard Cranium" thing to do and record on video.
FYI, there were some great views in the video and excluding the total disregard for safety the video still holds merit in demonstrating that a large group of riders can operate in a tight group without running into one another. I did see some clear efforts from riders to communicate their intentions to other riders throughout the video. Maybe that should be the focus of your next video.
Don't worry! You have no Rights in NYC anyway. NY, and Especially NYC has Castrated the Populace before you were born. Rights are Granted. But I totally agree with your observation. There were hundreds of Legal, and Immoral actions by the group. E-Bikes are amazing because you can go where Bicycles can go...It's a Total Game Changer.
Looks super cool, but unless the streets have been closed I've seen a dozen infractions that fuck the image of electric vehicles. Glad to recognize 90% of these bikes
its like bike life, except with ebikes lol. although I don't see anyone doing combos holding up a traffic jam swerving parked vehicles
Let me break it down for you. 70% of NYC cars in recent studies are clocked as Speeding on local roads. Cars kill every single day so have you seen bans on fast cars or sport cars? Are 70% of Car drivers getting tickets? Licensing or not, cars kill every day. Every E-Bike on the road replacing a car is saving lives in dense cities. Go visit a big city ER before hating on BS minor E-Bike infractions. Everyone Jaywalks in NYC too.
@@718og i agree with everything you said but i think he was talking about the part where hundreds of people are riding around not obeying any traffic laws , stops, intersections, no concern for cars or people crossing a crosswalk, i saw people riding on the wrong side of the road into oncoming traffic hahah. There is a term RISKY SHIFT in social psychology, people start doing crazy stupid things just because they are in a big mob. Although I dont think anyone will stop the rides, the authorities and media encourage lawlessness and allow it daily.
@@EBikeBuilder_ 70% of cars speeding and daily deaths are far worse that a few large E-Bike group rides per year. Basically what happens when large groups rides approach is all cars stop or slow down for a few seconds until they pass.
@@718og I'm not arguing with ya mate like I said i agree. You can say relatively it is safe compared to X Y Z yes that is true. The objective fact remains: a large group of people are riding around not following basic common sense laws of the road that everyone is expected to follow in order for the road to function. Did you see what happened with Mister Trudeau in Canada and the Truckers, government loves when these things happen because they can use it as an excuse to take xtreme measures and impose x y z new laws that screw everyone over. Common sense isnt so common I guess
Can't imagine riding a one wheel bike on the streets of NY. Looked like a fun time.
That was a good ride. Thanks for the view. It’s a wonder I have not seen a group ride in all the times I’ve been out, but enjoyed several via YT.
This looks awesome!
Wish I was there. Looks awesome.
Good video👍 ride safe all the time.
That looked like a blast!
I’m glad to see people using helmets when riding.
Seen videos that nobody wears it.
Can’t wait for to get out there and join in.
I have a HJM Ebike on the way to replace the one that got stolen. It's a three wheel trike to be exact. Looks like fun riding along with all them people.
Thanks for including my DIY Build I named E-Metron in your vid. Similar frame to a Delfast but my own unique 72v build. Good job keeping up with us on a Bafang!
Great video. Left out a lot of info but understandably so. This event will be redone soon without the issues that arose. Hope to see you out in NYC again
Nice shot of my mid-drive RX at the end! Cool vid.
I'm prepping for the next one
Going to my first meetup on my bike this Saturday in Tampa. Just watching other rides bc im so stoked :)
D- more group rides this was fun to watch
Awesome! It looks like my bike made the video! Great meeting you out there in NYC! We should link up for some NJ rides!
For sure! It was great seeing all the bikes
How do you find these rides? And how do you get your bike to NYC
Get the Sur Ron. I really enjoy mine! Such a blast off road
What kind of active cooling do you have on your bike? I watched some other videos from you and I know you drilled holes in your frame to cool off the controller but not sure I see anything about that device you have on it
Looks like a fun ride! That thing at 7:20 is a CycleBoard. 👍
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LOL the scooter.
4:45
My GTA reflexes made me flinch at that sound haha
How fast was the ride? Just curious if one could keep up on a standard class 2 ebike.
Props to that E-scooter samurai 🫡
Do you have any idea what error 7 mean I brought 2000w hub haven’t went but 6 miles
Very Cool! How do you find out about the group rides? thnx
In my state of NH, the vast majority of those high powered ebikes would be illegal. I'm happy for you folks. I get hassled by cops with my stock 750w and 1000w ebikes with stock batteries & controllers if I go more than 28-30mph.
I would love more group ride info
You use the same phone holder as me that’s awesome
Great video but traffic seems to be an issue. What ebike you have?
Wow comments are a little feisty! I do think the fast powerful ebikes are cool and want one myself. However, I do get the feeling that with the mainstream popularity ebikes are getting, we’re probably gonna start seeing more rules and such put in place. Which isn’t what I want. At least they’re not really cracking down on e scooters or EUCs yet.
Keep up the videos! This was super entertaining as with many of your other stuff
When’s the next one in NYC ? I just bought a Kaaba wolf king gt .. I wanna ride too lol
I’m depressed now knowing that this kind of ebike group riding exists but not in my state
When you said in the last video you were coming to this avent I was going to say these guy don't ride slow they all have fast upgraded bikes infact I've already seen this ride twice by different TH-camrs but you did well to keep up with these guys o did you see the cake bike 👍🏾
They’re not even riding fast..I see multiple zooz bikes that are keeping up no issues
@@slimdunkin117 no that was different from the rides they usually do with John Angel
@@ashpunting no it’s just they’re all not fast
@@slimdunkin117 lol, come ride with my crew … we have special rides and see if you can keep up 😁
@@rolandroland1485 you’re too old for me and ride like an old lady
no permits? just total chaos and unwanted disruption i feel for you guys. its going to be tragic when the roundup occurs. $ millions to the junk yard it already in the works.
Who do you have to follow to get the invite for events like this. Id love to ride with a group but idk who to contact. Awesome video and hope this time is better
With all those bikes, I thought I’d be able to spot a Fiido.
Get the G62 going mate! You have the battery and controller, whats a couple hundred bucks more to untap the full potential of the build? You will be pleasantly surprised.
The grin g62 6.5 winding is for 26" wheels so it might be spinning slower than you would want on a 20 inch wheel. Grin Doesnt have the G62 modeled in their motor simulator yet. its probably similar to a G60, just capable of handling more current. I plugged the G60 into the motor sim and when i change the wheel diameter from 28" to 22" , its about 20% difference in top speed
A few Zooz I see. Love my 1100
"Active cooling"?
That’s a first; do you have more on this?
TIA
How do you meet groups like this I would love to ride with yall
What sites are these group rides posted on? You know so I can stay home and not go lol
I would have to bring several batteries!##range anxiety
So what was total distance of ride?
about 18 miles
are you trying to give the government an excuse to put a band on ebikes ?
Exactly, a group ride of lawlessness.
U can’t ban ebikes u cry babies
Please don't bring this crap to NJ, don't need the attention.
Crazy some riders have no helmet. It just take 1 wrong fall towards your head and it's game over.
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so there is no legal limit on how powerful the ebikes can be without registering them in NYC? or do the police just not care about any crime there.
They going from shooting to stabbing, what do they care about eBikes 🤣
In NYC the law is E-Bikes share all 30 Mph roads with cars and can also use bike lanes. Stay within the speed limits, don't ride like a jackass and everything is fine. Cops are not going to waste their time inspecting every hub motor on the road lol.
so you want cars to obey the rules of the road but you bikers block traffic run red lights and ride into incoming cars
Who kills people. Cars crashing or ebikes?
Exactly
@@slimdunkin117 e bikes riding on roads where the speed limit is 40 making cars swerve and hit other cars
Don't be that consumerist guy that just buys the Sur Ron to be cool and go fast. Only so much of a "build" you can do; when you buy a prebuilt its like everything is set up and dialed and you don't even want to touch it or work on it. It's more intersesting to see builds and tinkering and coming up with a build that works for you. SECONDLY, with Sur Rons, if it looks like a dirtbike and quacks like a dirtbike, the police are probably gonna give you some trouble. Been riding my BBSHD around for years, see police all the time, never had anyone say 1 thing about it or question it, because it looks like a bike and i pedal and when I'm around anyone I slow waaaaay down. The ebikes that look like dirtbikes are the ones that get pulled over and you're going to end up with a 4000$ POS you can only drive off road, or license and insure and all that rigamarole. I guess you can go race around in the streets of NYC and get away with it because its such a dumpster fire there.
Looks like a fun way to get lots of restrictive laws passed against ebikes.
Yeah, when hundreds of people having fun and there's no violence or drugs I'm as surprised as you
As long as they are not blocking cars, or scaring pedestrians via being a-holes there really is nothing wrong with group rides every now & again.
It’s the persons utilizing e-scooters committing crime along with gas cars as we see countless times these past few weeks. Smh
They need to be put in their place.
They gonna do it any ways why frown upon people who are trying to enjoy the freedom now whilst they can 🙄
The majority of ebikes in the video aren't even legal to ride on public roads (over class 3) . I feel like NYC will the best first city to crack down on these types of vehicles
Enjoy the silence!!!... ebike =)
Why does someone ALWAYS have to spam there horn in group rides
Surron isn’t street legal why would u want one?
Personally, I would stay away from buying a sur ron. They are cool and all but with no pedals and not being street legal, you are asking for trouble. Basically breaking the law every time you ride it unless you are on a dirt trail. I’m seeing way too many people getting cited for riding those. Some have had their bike impounded.
lets not sugarcoat things, impounded means stolen :)
@@htcthunderbolt No that isn't what it means, this is; "seize and take legal custody of (something, especially a vehicle, goods, or documents) because of an infringement of a law or regulation:"...
@@imkrane keep thinking tht, you dont have the right to steal private property simply cuz you got a badge on your chest.
@@htcthunderbolt I think you need to reread the definition, nowhere does it say anything about stealing...
@@imkrane definition of stealing is taking something that isn't yours without the owners consent. If a cop "impounds" my private automobile, that is the very definition of stealing. Cops can and do steal all the time in the name of the "law"
Yall are wreckless and at least 98% of you deserve a ticket
Lmao
Amazing the number of trolls on this thread. Thank you for the video. I love ebikes, but todays video was more e motorcycle than bike. PAS is super important to me as a filter between Ebike and e-motorcycle. For me being part of the drivetrain myself is very rewarding. Just my opinion but PAS keeps speed down to “bicycle “ safe speeds, pushes your body as much as you desire it, components are way way cheaper to upgrade and replace. E motorcycles are cool but they are crowding into the bicycle arena, and that group is a very different bunch than typical Ebikers/cyclists. The Suron, especially spec wise, is honestly a crappy version of a dirt bike. If that’s your style of riding for half the money you can get twice the gas powered dirt bike with no range anxiety. And those can handle the bumps. I don’t know why but when I see a suron all I think is someone made a terrible decision. Stick with your custom builds, don’t switch to some cookie cutter motorcycle that can’t really perform any better than a 1500 dollar Honda cub.
And this my friends is why ebikes are going to be banned or heavily regulated in most states. Y'all are going to ruin it for us all. These bikes that go 30-40mph and fall into the moped/dirt bike category are going to take a big dump on the rest of us. Sucks. Make sure you thumbs down this vid.
ps in a lot of states you need a moped plate and moped or motorcycle license to be street legal
LMAO! Everyone showed up with dirt bikes. Good thing NYC doesn't enforce any laws anymore. Many of those "e-bikes" should have a license plate on them.
The thing I like about good old fashioned bicycles is that they don't fry my balls with electro mechanical radiation.
I think it's funny how people on bikes always complain about how people in cars drive. And then the people on bikes just do whatever when riding around cars. Blocking lanes and shutting down roads/intersctions would get you shot around here.
I just don't get it, you have over 5k subs and yet you continue to break all kinds of laws while riding an E-bike, and in one scene you almost ran over a pedestrian in a crosswalk with the light to cross, you should be setting an example not giving government even more reasons to put even more restrictions on E-bikes...
What laws no one cares..most of those bikes aren’t even street legal. You see how nyc is now? No ones worried about ebikes and he didn’t almost run anyone over u cry baby
lmao ok karen. your probably the type of person who turns in his own neighbor?
@@htcthunderbolt What did Karen say? I don't see her reply or comment anywhere?
Bruh. I have a 72v ebike I use as my daily driver now and I am gonna end up having to register it as a moped with the way these laws are going. Too bad I can't because nobody will insure home built vehicles...
@@dapperduckling3951 the laws were already set in 2002..ebike classes were defined already federally..so idk what u guys are talking about of “laws changing”..if ur above 750w ur not street legal. The end
9 minutes and 49 seconds into the video you cut of a pedestrian in the cross walk. You're video and the actions of your group will help to ensure that we'll have a registration process in the not so distant future. This will effectively take away the best part of owning a PEV. I love my bikes to include our ebikes. And because of people like you and your group, ebikes are prohibited 🚫 in certain areas where bicycles are still permitted to travel where I live. Thanks alot..... I'll return the favor by supporting any legislation that places sanctions on high performance ebikes (like requiring a license to operate, registration, insurance, vehicle inspections, and plates). In the future if you want to do a group ride like that, get a permit like they do for the 5 Boro bike tour. 30,000 plus riders on the road without breaking every other law and endangering pedestrians. Such a "Richard Cranium" thing to do and record on video.
FYI, there were some great views in the video and excluding the total disregard for safety the video still holds merit in demonstrating that a large group of riders can operate in a tight group without running into one another. I did see some clear efforts from riders to communicate their intentions to other riders throughout the video. Maybe that should be the focus of your next video.
Don't worry! You have no Rights in NYC anyway. NY, and Especially NYC has Castrated the Populace before you were born. Rights are Granted. But I totally agree with your observation. There were hundreds of Legal, and Immoral actions by the group. E-Bikes are amazing because you can go where Bicycles can go...It's a Total Game Changer.
What are you doing here crying idiots.
Should stop at the red lights mongos