In this video a muslim calls @GodLogicApologetics to try and refute the topic "allah made me believe the crucifixion" but as usual they have no answers
Dude I feel like I'm going crazy everytime I hear muslims trying to explain there Islamic beliefs like it's nuts the guy couldn't even agree that the opposite of truth is false or a lie
@@scottallen3907all you have to do is think rape, murder, kidnapping, pedophilia, and lying and theft and polygamy are not sins. Then he is the best of humanity.
Yeah, makes sense that God is able to foil the plots of evil people with their like. Just like God in the Bible that sends delusions to those who deserve it. Not like God in Christianity that allows or kills Jesus? Or himself? God being Al Makkar makes more sense and the Bible seems to confirm it. Hebrew 5:7 The disciples saw Jesus was saved. During the days of Jesus’ life on earth, he offered up prayers and petitions with fervent cries and tears to the one who could save him from death, and he was heard because of his reverent submission. Do to his reverence, he was heard. Means God accepted his prayer and saved him. If he died, he did not save him.
@nunya54 you will one day die too, so does that mean your Allah will fail to save you too ?Jesus Christ had to go through the sufferings, even death on the cross to fufill the Father's mission and Christ was raised from the dead and is now seated at the right hand of God....what is better than that?
"Its not a lie..how is it a lie"😂😂.."its not a falsehood..youre misclasifying it" "The opposite of lie is the truth might be the wrong answer..thats what YOU believe"😂😂 "Yeahhh...i mean..wait wait..no no"😂😂
Gunya No the Christian God did not need to become human, He wanted to become human as it was the only way back to Him since the fall. It shows how much He loves you, not that you loved Him . Isn't that amazing to know the God of the universe wants you to come back to Him, all He ever wanted. Only WAY is through Christ. You may not know that He said I am the WAY, the Truth and the life
@@stevejames6813 You mean you believe the Christian God became human. That is not a teaching of Jesus, nor a belief of the disciples and the first Christians for three hundred years. Jesus may have said that but we really do not know since John's gospel is not considered authentic by any Biblical scholar but is an embellishment instead and ninety percent different from the synoptic gospels. Even if he did say it though, literally any prophet could have said the same. They were all the way to God during their time to who they were sent. And Jesus was that to the lost sheep of Israel and not for everyone of all time.
@nunya54 You better keep reading the bible nunya, Not the quran. Jesus salvation was for all humanity, not just for the Jews. The mystery that was hidden forever, was revealed to Paul.. The mystery was that now Gods salvation is for all, yes including muslims,.no one is exempted. Not that is a love beyond comprehension, sadly you will only find that love in the bible.
Stay safe out here man. Im an atheist myself so i underatand how angry and violent these convos can get. Atay aafe and stay strong. The truth will prevail
LMAO I love how they never see the path Avery paves for them lol… but it’s also incredibly sad that this cult runs so deep that they can’t see truth. 12:30 does he believe in allahs 6 different versions of creation, or evolution? Didnt he just go against Ala in that statement?
it leads to the conclusion that "the deceiver" Allah is a true Deceiver, not only by title, and therefore he is shaitan, not god. Cause lah is a pagan god, this fits the frame
I'm not a Christian, nor am I a fan of organised religion in general but it is so satisfying as an ex Muslim to see these young Christians tear Islam down page by page.
Who narrated that Jesus' mother was there? Hebrew 5:7 The disciples saw Jesus was saved. During the days of Jesus’ life on earth, he offered up prayers and petitions with fervent cries and tears to the one who could save him from death, and he was heard because of his reverent submission. Do to his reverence, he was heard. Means God accepted his prayer and saved him. If he died, he did not save him.
Evolution and creation DO NOT GO against each other! It’s not that one is true and the other isn’t. Your analogy abdool is completely false. Even if Avery doesn’t believe in it. Evolution doesn’t explains creation. Evolution is a process. No creation, no evolution.
The TRUE God (Elohiym) will NEVER, EVER portray something that is a lie has truth! That goes against His nature! Thank you Avery……. good teaching here🙏🏻
Very nice conversation because both parties were calm. But impossible to follow the muslim man's logic with the "god did not lie" while text clearly said he did. I am neither christian or muslim.
This verse specifically refers to the disbelievers' plans against Prophet Jesus (Isa) and Allah's counter-plan to protect him. The disbelievers plotted to kill Jesus, but Allah's plan was to raise him and foil their plot.
The Christians are on the side of those that wanted to kill Jesus so that they can get to heaven. They are actually HAPPY that some people killed Jesus otherwise they would have to do it themselves. And believe me they would salivate at the chance so that they can gain Salvation.
The Christians are on the side of those that wanted to kill Jesus so that they can get to heaven. They are actually HAPPY that some people killed Jesus otherwise they would have to do it themselves. And believe me they would salivate at the chance so that they can gain Salvation.
The Christians are on the side of those that wanted to kill Jesus so that they can get to heaven. They are actually HAPPY that some people killed Jesus otherwise they would have to do it themselves. And believe me they would salivate at the chance so that they can gain Salvation.
This is so sad. He needs to argue so hard because this discussion makes it clear that his god is Satan. I'm always saddened by this aspect of the debates. And no, lol, evolution is not true. What's true is selective breeding. The easiest example to give is that a wolf and a dog are both canis lupus but a dog is called familiaris because it has been domesticated and selectively bred. But all dogs are just wolves. So imagine if they all died out and in a couple of thousand years someone came and dug some different breeds out of sedimentary rock. If the person said that all of these different breeds of dog are evidence of evolution, would that be true? That's what these scientists do. They don't even take into account that their find might be atypical individuals. There is no evidence for evolution. If laypeople saw the few broken pieces of bone these evolutionists use to pretend to have evidence, fewer people would misunderstand that *evolution is just a theory* made up by a racist ex Christian as apologetics for slavery. I mean I learned that at uni when I was getting my degree in archaeology, so when people in the relevant fields tell you that evolution is true they are either wilfully lying or believe through faith not evidence.
In christianity, the fallen angels gave humans iron and learned them how to make weapons and armor.. In islam, al’lah was the one sending down iron to humans for them to win a war.. Just imagien the world if humans never learned how to make weapons, better or worse?
SURAH 14:4 We have not sent a messenger except in the language of his people to clarify ˹the message˺ for them. Then Allah leaves whoever He wills to stray and guides whoever He wills. And He is the Almighty, All-Wise.
Jokes aside this is scary. Its like he is brainwashed and can't come to the simple and straightforward conclusion when its presented in the simplest form. May Jesus guide him to the truth and not present a lie like allah.
@@TheLikesofMee oh yes ... Alot of people Run on pride and brainwashing instead a proper Education... Specially in Muslims countries... There is all about Feelings and Christian bought Technology 👌
End of the day Chirstians believes in the opposite of Prophet Jesus peace be upon him- If Jesus -peace be upon him- says to worship 1 GOD (in Mark 12:29-30), but Chirstians seems to think he's [Jesus] talking about himself. 😆😆😆
@@umarmujaahid1136 Where did Jesus tell us to worship only one God who isn't him, Can you show us? And you better not show it from the 'corrupted' Bible. Is Mark 12:29-30 which you quote authentic or corrupt? 🤔
@@johnscott7937 Well you don't believe in Qur'an.................so maybe Holy Qur'an 19:36 [Jesus said], "And indeed, Allah is my Lord and your Lord, so worship Him. That is a straight path." 50% of the bible is true> Luke 18:19 “Why do you call me good?” Jesus answered. “No one is good-except God alone. (NIV)
Don't take that for granted. I have heard people claim that if someone says "honestly" they are probably lying but I, personally say that literally as I make every effort to be truthful as all times. I think it depends on if the person is often accused of deflection but in fact just has an atypical way of speaking. We can't forget that people have intellectual disabilities and other issues.
@@CandiceGoddard i don't deny what you're saying and in fact, i also endeavour to keep my word. Having said that, in many debates this is a rarity. Nonetheless, we could accord the benefit of the doubt where it is warranted.
Man, stubborn as a rock. He can see and understands the point, but is too afraid of realizing everything he believes is a lie. I don't even know if I should feel bad, tbh.
Clinging desperately to a lie because of ego and being attached to everything he's invested in Islam. He's accepted that he's being lied because most human beings love falsehood l, darkness and ultimately the Father of lies Satan
@@yoyohanaBR "not true" look at high food prices? shop-lifters are making stealing an art. Sons are killing their mother. Domestic violence has increase. As a Muslim, I see it. *Homosexual are "teaching" Children in school (not where I've.....yet) on UTube & Apps in the cell phone. You can pretend your "god" is doing something. Young high school females are having babies. Smoke shops are "popping" everywhere. Your god/"jesus"" isn't doing NOTHING. kEEP on "attacking" Islam, you are going to see drag queen teaching the bible inside the church (*they already got their own bible)
One of the six major beliefs in Islam is predestination. Even though they claim they have free will, it's a complete contradiction with predestination.
you are right and also in Islamic countries, there is no free will. They force people to be Muslim. Look through out the history, they have rage the war and took over land, woman everything without respecting their free will.
@@observerzz foreknowledge is not predestination. in fact it's clearly stated that allah decrees it. foreknowledge is the knowing, of the many path once could chose, is what that one will go for. Predestination is before you have the choices you will end up there. Moreover, is predestination by decree, meaning allah willingly chose where you will end up. These confirms it: Sahih muslim 2662c & 6393 Sunan abi dawud 4717 Sahih al bukhari vol 7, book 70, 577 So either allah is not just, or islamic scholars are very ignorant about logic and theology. But I guess it can be both.
There are laws and punishments in every society. You have free will to commit crimes and do evil. You are not free from the consequences though. You can still make the right and wrong choices with your free will, of course.
@@nunya54 Yeah but leaving a religion should not led to death, like if someone leaves Christianity no one is gonna kill them. That the big difference of Islam and Christianity, is that we allow freedom of religion.
@@LanaySantana Firstly, if someone leaves Christianity today, you're not going to kill them because there are no laws and principles in Christianity that run or rule anything. Under what government, under what system, under what governing body would Christians even do that? Christians abolished the laws Moses and Jesus followed and upheld and that the first Christians practiced upon for centuries after Jesus. The Bible says to kill anyone that calls to another religion; Christians don't do that because they don't follow the actual religion of Jesus. As you said "leaving a religion should not led to death". According to who? In modern Christianity, according to Christians. In Islam, and the religion of Jesus and Muhammad, according to God. Secondly, there is religious freedom under Islamic law. There is nothing in Islamic law that prevents Jews, Christians, Hindus, or others from practicing their religion under Islamic law. That's why non-Muslims have always lived under Islamic law and why Jews AND Christians sought refuge in Muslim lands, often both from the persecution of Christians who were exactly killing them because they would not accept Christianity or in the case of the Christians away from their oppressive rulers. Sixty percent of the world's Christians at one time lived under Islamic rule and they were able to practice their religion. It wasn't the Muslims who almost killed the Jews out of existence compelling them into their religion under Islamic law. It was the Christians who not only would burn them alive in their synagogues and had a pension for crucifying and killing Muslims (something Muslims were NOT allowed to do even when they conquered a place), they were also killing each other over being the wrong denomination. They also issued edicts enforcing belief in the Trinity, which most Christians at the time did not agree with, again, under threat of violence and coercion and spread their religion through violent and coercive means around the world. Slavery was compulsion and many people were made to be Christian under the threat of violence. If that was truly what Christianity was about, that certainly is a message that for some reason the people closet to Jesus' time didn't get or something modern Christians have remixed and just abandoned, just like most of the practices of Jesus. Islam is not a religion that adapts and changes over time based upon what men, even Muslims think at the time they're living in. That's not necessary when your religion actually comes from God since it's He knows the future, He knows how to order societies and what will work and He perfects His religion so it is appropriate for all times. And that's a big difference between Christianity and Islam as well.
"You are taking the verse out of context" I've heard that many times. Isn't Allah "the best of deceivers"? How does this guy still believe that Allah can't be false?🎉
The issue is you are insisting on a word that is not in the text. It's an interpretation. It's like when your Bible says that The Holy Spirit appeared in a Bodily Form of a PIGEON. And the Translators changed Pigeon into a Dove. They didn't want there God to be Pigeon. So your God is actually a PIGEON.
I thought this guy was smart, hindi pala😢😢poor Abdul. Simpling sentences hindi maiintindihan or ayaw intindihin para hindi ma exposed ang kalokohan ni allah. Kawawa naman ang mga Abdul na to, sana mabuksan mga isipan nyo sa katotohanan 🙏
No we don't. we can't be like you, Christians have sex before marriage, drinking alcohol beverages eating pork & allowing criminals get away w/shop-lifting crime free, celebration of pagan festival such as Christmas, Easter, Ash wendnesday, Birthday. If you're a Muslims , rules must apply. commandments from GOD (ALLAH)
If you need an example of stupidity I think this Muslim sums it up pretty well. May God humble him and brings light to his ignorance and pride so he may be saved ✝️
Thank you and well-stated. That Quranic argument says Jesus didn’t die on the cross but that Allâh made it appear someone who looked like Jesus died in his place. That is deception on the part of Allâh when the true God can not lie.
The Quran says no such thing and doesn’t reference the crucifixion of Jesus at all. The verb for crucifixion is ‘SALLABA’ - the verb used in this verse is SALABA. 2 accusations are made in the verse by the Jews: the illegitimate fatherhood of Jesus (insulting Mary) Claiming that the Jews had killed him Allah responds that they didn’t kill him (without explicitly talking about the crucifixion) - what about the other charge against Mary? The true translation: “But they didn’t kill him, nor did they ascertain his true (pure) lineage (SALABA) but rather his birth and who his true father was - was made confusing and unclear for them - and those who argue about it don’t know what they are talking about” Therefore Allah answers both of the charges - the Quran actually tells us who Jesus’s father was. There is a reason that Muhammad ﷺ did not give any commentary whatsoever on any of the verses related to Jesus and his ‘un’ miraculous birth or any of the verses allegedly talking about the crucifixion. He was specifically commanded not to - the Quran foretells a time when it will be misinterpreted and a time when it will truly reveal itself (in these latter days). th-cam.com/play/PLdcLdhY24PdySFGnVSSvw2jFMfjjPTgMZ.html&si=MuLM6s4MPx59KG3T
That's not a lie and God in the Bible sends delusions to those who deserve it. Who was it made to appear to? Since it was not the early Christians during that time who believed it. So why did later Christians believe it? Based on what? There was no evidence Jesus died; lots of evidence he didn't. What were people believing it for and why?
No, he isn't because no one during that time, the eyewitnesses, the people during Jesus' time saw Jesus crucified. It was common belief in the first century that Jesus did not die. The earliest sects did not believe in it. So who was deceived?
The muslim admitted that allah made it happen. So it is at allah's fault. The problem lies in the quran he keeps quoting context, but when you read the context, it's incoherent
Exactly ! The catch phrase is “allah made it appear to them” He(allah) knowing all things intentionally provided a false event/ information making it look to them that the lie was the truth.
god/"jesus" fault making gang bangers, shop-lifting a free for all crime, police shooting unarmed victim & sooo many protesters around the College campus & high price in food. I blame today problem god/"jesus" for NOT doing NOTHING.
Abdul keeps saying muslim believe in free will??? Qur’an says: “No kind of calamity occurs except by Allah’s permission. Whoever believes in Allah, He will guide his heart. Allah has knowledge of all things.” (Qur’an, 64:11) Believers enjoy the ease and comfort of knowing that everything befalling them is destined to do so.
I’m just gonna put this out there! My Arabic brothers and sisters Gods spirit uses videos like this to show non Arabs and non Muslims the wisdom of Muslims. You all need to fix up! Consider this. If a person goes to hell because they lived a life based on a false belief, and the belief was from allah who would be judged?
God will not deceive, period. He will not appear to crucify Jesus. Jesus will not resurrect with a "spiritual body" and then tell Thomas to put his finger into the "imaginary" holes in His hands and sides. Both Muslims and JWs are making God into a liar.
That's not a true story and the Bible says God will send delusions to those who deserve it. There is no evidence that anyone saw Jesus crucified and lots of evidence it didn't happen and Christians during that time did not believe it.
Iblis (Satan)] said: “O my Lord! Because you misled me, I shall indeed adorn the path of error for them (mankind) on the earth, and I shall mislead them all.
The Christian worldview is the ONLY worldview with Love Truth Morals Logic Science... ALL other worldviews MUST borrow from the Christian worldview, in order to make sense of itself!! 😀 😀 😀
How can someone know if the quran is the truth? How can someone know if al’lah will say that ”he only made it appear true and 600years later say that he only made it appear like the truth” If you follow the quran and al’lah nature and history, you have to think that could happen. I would’nt say make something appear false is the best way to make people trust and belive your work or words.. dosen’t make sense.. But maybe i’m just not guided by al’lah and it actully make total sense and I just don’t see it. But what else could al’lah have made appear something it really isn’t? Nobody knows.. If the quran is true, Just imagien how many people would be sent to hell under those 600 years for simply beliving what al’lah made appear to them.. nah
Firstly, Allah does not hold people accountable for what they don't know but there's no evidence that Jesus died and it's not what the people during that time believed. So who did it appear to for them to believe it false? The Quran says they had no proof; it was conjecture.
It’s like reasoning with a rock!
😂😂😂😂 too much time kissing the black stone
Right😂😂😂😂
You are what you smooch
@harambejr5935
Yea, Don't be kissing any Women or you will be a WOMAN
Too much Camel urine in his brain
It’s so exhausting being a Muslim
It has got to be an exhausting task trying to defend their perfect example (Muhammed)
Dude I feel like I'm going crazy everytime I hear muslims trying to explain there Islamic beliefs like it's nuts the guy couldn't even agree that the opposite of truth is false or a lie
@@scottallen3907all you have to do is think rape, murder, kidnapping, pedophilia, and lying and theft and polygamy are not sins. Then he is the best of humanity.
Basically. haha@@TheLikesofMee
Jesus Christ can bless you with Peace
It’s says 3 times in the Quran that Allah is the greatest of deceivers.
Let that sink in Muslims!
Say it with me the father of deception is lucifer = alah
Yeah, makes sense that God is able to foil the plots of evil people with their like. Just like God in the Bible that sends delusions to those who deserve it. Not like God in Christianity that allows or kills Jesus? Or himself? God being Al Makkar makes more sense and the Bible seems to confirm it. Hebrew 5:7 The disciples saw Jesus was saved. During the days of Jesus’ life on earth, he offered up prayers and petitions with fervent cries and tears to the one who could save him from death, and he was heard because of his reverent submission. Do to his reverence, he was heard. Means God accepted his prayer and saved him. If he died, he did not save him.
@nunya54 you will one day die too, so does that mean your Allah will fail to save you too ?Jesus Christ had to go through the sufferings, even death on the cross to fufill the Father's mission and Christ was raised from the dead and is now seated at the right hand of God....what is better than that?
@@nunya54 Islam is an OBVIOUS lie. An OBVIOUS one.
Muhammad is an OBVIOUS false prophet.
@@nunya54 Your lies wont save you, Jesus Christ died and rose again, islam crumbles under its own deceptions and contradictions.
Muslim said : a lie is when you present something that is untrue.
BUT that was what Allah did..a lie !!
The mental gymnastics is INSANE
"Its not a lie..how is it a lie"😂😂.."its not a falsehood..youre misclasifying it"
"The opposite of lie is the truth might be the wrong answer..thats what YOU believe"😂😂
"Yeahhh...i mean..wait wait..no no"😂😂
Stuck for allah 🙆🏽♀️ habibi running aroound the kaaba 🏃🏼➡️🕋 ⭕ 🤦🏽♀️🤣
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😂😂😂Hahah
God has blessed Avery with alot of patience
The true God does not need a human to defend his word.
That's right kentracer
Jesus does not need anyone to defend His word. He is the Word
The Christians say God needed to become human to save humans
Gunya
No the Christian God did not need to become human, He wanted to become human as it was the only way back to Him since the fall.
It shows how much He loves you, not that you loved Him .
Isn't that amazing to know the God of the universe wants you to come back to Him, all He ever wanted.
Only WAY is through Christ. You may not know that He said
I am the WAY, the Truth and the life
@@stevejames6813 You mean you believe the Christian God became human. That is not a teaching of Jesus, nor a belief of the disciples and the first Christians for three hundred years. Jesus may have said that but we really do not know since John's gospel is not considered authentic by any Biblical scholar but is an embellishment instead and ninety percent different from the synoptic gospels. Even if he did say it though, literally any prophet could have said the same. They were all the way to God during their time to who they were sent. And Jesus was that to the lost sheep of Israel and not for everyone of all time.
@nunya54
You better keep reading the bible nunya, Not the quran.
Jesus salvation was for all humanity, not just for the Jews.
The mystery that was hidden forever, was revealed to Paul..
The mystery was that now Gods salvation is for all, yes including muslims,.no one is exempted.
Not that is a love beyond comprehension, sadly you will only find that love in the bible.
Mocking someone that calls himself " The Best of Deceivers " is mindboggling 😂
Stay safe out here man. Im an atheist myself so i underatand how angry and violent these convos can get. Atay aafe and stay strong. The truth will prevail
ALLAH THE GREATEST OF ALL DECIEVERS
Avery is hilarious bruh especially when whoever he debates starts scrambling and the "Com'on Maaane" gets me every time 😂😂
"I only made it APPEAR that I was faithful to my wife when I was sleeping around. That's not a lie!"
*facepalm*
LMAO I love how they never see the path Avery paves for them lol… but it’s also incredibly sad that this cult runs so deep that they can’t see truth.
12:30 does he believe in allahs 6 different versions of creation, or evolution? Didnt he just go against Ala in that statement?
They trying so hard to defend a lie that it makes them throw away rational reasoning 😢
What is the muslism defending? The quran specifically says " allah guides and misguides" and you want to tell us what?
"I'll take COGNITIVE DISSONANCE for $800"
it leads to the conclusion that "the deceiver" Allah is a true Deceiver, not only by title, and therefore he is shaitan, not god. Cause lah is a pagan god, this fits the frame
show me which part of pagan ? pliz 😏
I'm not a Christian, nor am I a fan of organised religion in general but it is so satisfying as an ex Muslim to see these young Christians tear Islam down page by page.
Christianity isn't a religion my friend... It's a Relationship... ❤😊
They can win the gold with these mental gymnastics 😂
Can Muslims tell us when the switch was made because Jesus's mother wall there all along together with His accusers.?
Who narrated that Jesus' mother was there?
Hebrew 5:7 The disciples saw Jesus was saved. During the days of Jesus’ life on earth, he offered up prayers and petitions with fervent cries and tears to the one who could save him from death, and he was heard because of his reverent submission. Do to his reverence, he was heard. Means God accepted his prayer and saved him. If he died, he did not save him.
Reasoning logic with a momin is trying to catch a fish with your bare hands in water.
Avery knew after a few tries that rock aint moving. If only they move the rock from their grave they will see the light
This gave me a migraine 🤦🏾♀️🤦🏾♀️
As a Christian, the Bible teaches God’s children hear his voice and come to the feet of the cross.
Did he kiss the black so much that he can only reason like one? I have seen ballet dancers spin slower than this guy.
Evolution and creation DO NOT GO against each other! It’s not that one is true and the other isn’t.
Your analogy abdool is completely false.
Even if Avery doesn’t believe in it.
Evolution doesn’t explains creation. Evolution is a process. No creation, no evolution.
Amen
Doglogic could not prove JC was crucified... CricifiXtion is what I see . !
Allah , Imma just gonna lie to you a little bit but I promise you have free will Surah 3:54 Allah the Greatest of Deceivers''
17:08 for get the sweet chin music. It's time for a stone cold stunner
Please link the original video in the description
Deuteronomy 6:4 ► Hear, O Israel: The LORD our God, the LORD is one.
No free will in islam period.
There wouldn't be punishments and consequences for actions if there were no free will, lol
No free will on islam.. Even in hadith, when Musa has arguments with adam about his mischief, which allah has predestined 40 years before his creation
They saying we are stronger than Allah’s deception??? WOW! KUFAAAAAR 🤣🤣🤣
Very Sad! They just don't get it!
The TRUE God (Elohiym) will NEVER, EVER portray something that is a lie has truth! That goes against His nature! Thank you Avery……. good teaching here🙏🏻
Unbelievable😵💫😵🤯 Jesus take the wheel🙏🙏🙏
Very nice conversation because both parties were calm. But impossible to follow the muslim man's logic with the "god did not lie" while text clearly said he did. I am neither christian or muslim.
No text says God lied.
In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth, enough said!
This Muslim Teachers supposed to have difficult times explaining things to him and teaching him throughout schools.😮😢😅
made god into whiteman to worship how low you can go
Deceived Muslim - “You can say you were deceived , but you can’t say you were lied to”
This verse specifically refers to the disbelievers' plans against Prophet Jesus (Isa) and Allah's counter-plan to protect him. The disbelievers plotted to kill Jesus, but Allah's plan was to raise him and foil their plot.
The Christians are on the side of those that wanted to kill Jesus so that they can get to heaven. They are actually HAPPY that some people killed Jesus otherwise they would have to do it themselves. And believe me they would salivate at the chance so that they can gain Salvation.
Then 600 years later Allah revealed his plan despite thousands of years of prophecy, martyrs, and hundreds of eye witnesses?
Little helper needs some help. He can't help but shadow ban my comments.
The Christians are on the side of those that wanted to kill Jesus so that they can get to heaven. They are actually HAPPY that some people killed Jesus otherwise they would have to do it themselves. And believe me they would salivate at the chance so that they can gain Salvation.
The Christians are on the side of those that wanted to kill Jesus so that they can get to heaven. They are actually HAPPY that some people killed Jesus otherwise they would have to do it themselves. And believe me they would salivate at the chance so that they can gain Salvation.
This is so sad. He needs to argue so hard because this discussion makes it clear that his god is Satan.
I'm always saddened by this aspect of the debates.
And no, lol, evolution is not true. What's true is selective breeding. The easiest example to give is that a wolf and a dog are both canis lupus but a dog is called familiaris because it has been domesticated and selectively bred. But all dogs are just wolves. So imagine if they all died out and in a couple of thousand years someone came and dug some different breeds out of sedimentary rock. If the person said that all of these different breeds of dog are evidence of evolution, would that be true?
That's what these scientists do. They don't even take into account that their find might be atypical individuals.
There is no evidence for evolution. If laypeople saw the few broken pieces of bone these evolutionists use to pretend to have evidence, fewer people would misunderstand that *evolution is just a theory* made up by a racist ex Christian as apologetics for slavery.
I mean I learned that at uni when I was getting my degree in archaeology, so when people in the relevant fields tell you that evolution is true they are either wilfully lying or believe through faith not evidence.
In christianity, the fallen angels gave humans iron and learned them how to make weapons and armor.. In islam, al’lah was the one sending down iron to humans for them to win a war.. Just imagien the world if humans never learned how to make weapons, better or worse?
SURAH 14:4
We have not sent a messenger except in the language of his people to clarify ˹the message˺ for them. Then Allah leaves whoever He wills to stray and guides whoever He wills. And He is the Almighty, All-Wise.
It’s called “the THEORY of evolution “ 😐
What the heck??? This is so simple. If Jesus wasn’t crucified but Allah made it look like it then how is it not falsehood????
Funny how they inovate, by adding words and meaning that isn't there😮
"darkness comprehends not".. glory to the Living God Almighty, my Lord and Savior Jesus Christ 🙏🏾✝️🔯🕎⚕️🗡️🛡️📖🔥💙
This is so frustrating 🤦🏾♂️🤦🏾♂️
Frustrating is an understatement.
Ave must like messing with these slow bois
Jokes aside this is scary. Its like he is brainwashed and can't come to the simple and straightforward conclusion when its presented in the simplest form. May Jesus guide him to the truth and not present a lie like allah.
The signs of a cult.... They are soooo brainwashed That they will never understand it...
The even scarier part is there are millions of people this arrogant and ignorant.
@@TheLikesofMee oh yes ... Alot of people Run on pride and brainwashing instead a proper Education...
Specially in Muslims countries...
There is all about Feelings and Christian bought Technology 👌
@@TheLikesofMee Yeah. Christians.
2 Timothy 4:3
End of the day Muslims believes in the opposite of all Allah said....😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅
"As Muslims, we believe ____" **proceeds to contradict Allah's words** 😂😂😂
Muslims dont know WHAT to believe😂😂
End of the day Chirstians believes in the opposite of Prophet Jesus peace be upon him- If Jesus -peace be upon him- says to worship 1 GOD (in Mark 12:29-30), but Chirstians seems to think he's [Jesus] talking about himself. 😆😆😆
@@umarmujaahid1136 Where did Jesus tell us to worship only one God who isn't him, Can you show us? And you better not show it from the 'corrupted' Bible. Is Mark 12:29-30 which you quote authentic or corrupt? 🤔
@@johnscott7937 Well you don't believe in Qur'an.................so maybe Holy Qur'an 19:36 [Jesus said], "And indeed, Allah is my Lord and your Lord, so worship Him. That is a straight path."
50% of the bible is true> Luke 18:19
“Why do you call me good?” Jesus answered. “No one is good-except God alone. (NIV)
When someone says they're not trying to deflect, that's the sign that they are about to deflect😅🤣🤣🤣
Don't take that for granted. I have heard people claim that if someone says "honestly" they are probably lying but I, personally say that literally as I make every effort to be truthful as all times.
I think it depends on if the person is often accused of deflection but in fact just has an atypical way of speaking.
We can't forget that people have intellectual disabilities and other issues.
@@CandiceGoddard i don't deny what you're saying and in fact, i also endeavour to keep my word. Having said that, in many debates this is a rarity. Nonetheless, we could accord the benefit of the doubt where it is warranted.
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Best deceiver
Best schemer
since when do you have free will in islam? first time i heard this
Exactly, according to the quran muslims are slaves to allah 😂 allah has no children only slaves, what a loving allah
Incredible! Just incredible! The length Muslims go to defend the indefensible.....
There's nothing indefensible in Islam.
Man, stubborn as a rock. He can see and understands the point, but is too afraid of realizing everything he believes is a lie. I don't even know if I should feel bad, tbh.
Clinging desperately to a lie because of ego and being attached to everything he's invested in Islam. He's accepted that he's being lied because most human beings love falsehood l, darkness and ultimately the Father of lies Satan
Don't feel bad, that applies to your god/"jesus" as well. Doing nothing, does nothing, says nothing by god/"jesus".
@@umarmujaahid1136 Thank God that's not true
@@yoyohanaBR "not true" look at high food prices? shop-lifters are making stealing an art. Sons are killing their mother. Domestic violence has increase. As a Muslim, I see it. *Homosexual are "teaching" Children in school (not where I've.....yet) on UTube & Apps in the cell phone. You can pretend your "god" is doing something. Young high school females are having babies. Smoke shops are "popping" everywhere. Your god/"jesus"" isn't doing NOTHING. kEEP on "attacking" Islam, you are going to see drag queen teaching the bible inside the church (*they already got their own bible)
😂 nah don't disrespect the rock saying it would be stubborn! Even a rock would cry out in truth, that Jesus is Lord God
One of the six major beliefs in Islam is predestination. Even though they claim they have free will, it's a complete contradiction with predestination.
Calvinism.
you are right and also in Islamic countries, there is no free will. They force people to be Muslim. Look through out the history, they have rage the war and took over land, woman everything without respecting their free will.
Boom. no pun intended 😅
'predestination' simply is Allahs' foreknowledge of where one will end up as the result of using 'free will'.
That's not a contradiction.
@@observerzz foreknowledge is not predestination. in fact it's clearly stated that allah decrees it. foreknowledge is the knowing, of the many path once could chose, is what that one will go for. Predestination is before you have the choices you will end up there. Moreover, is predestination by decree, meaning allah willingly chose where you will end up.
These confirms it:
Sahih muslim 2662c & 6393
Sunan abi dawud 4717
Sahih al bukhari vol 7, book 70, 577
So either allah is not just, or islamic scholars are very ignorant about logic and theology. But I guess it can be both.
"Free will" but the punishment for apostasy is death. What kinda free will is that?
One is free to die, I guess,
There are laws and punishments in every society. You have free will to commit crimes and do evil. You are not free from the consequences though. You can still make the right and wrong choices with your free will, of course.
Awesome point
@@nunya54 Yeah but leaving a religion should not led to death, like if someone leaves Christianity no one is gonna kill them. That the big difference of Islam and Christianity, is that we allow freedom of religion.
@@LanaySantana Firstly, if someone leaves Christianity today, you're not going to kill them because there are no laws and principles in Christianity that run or rule anything. Under what government, under what system, under what governing body would Christians even do that? Christians abolished the laws Moses and Jesus followed and upheld and that the first Christians practiced upon for centuries after Jesus. The Bible says to kill anyone that calls to another religion; Christians don't do that because they don't follow the actual religion of Jesus. As you said "leaving a religion should not led to death". According to who? In modern Christianity, according to Christians. In Islam, and the religion of Jesus and Muhammad, according to God.
Secondly, there is religious freedom under Islamic law. There is nothing in Islamic law that prevents Jews, Christians, Hindus, or others from practicing their religion under Islamic law. That's why non-Muslims have always lived under Islamic law and why Jews AND Christians sought refuge in Muslim lands, often both from the persecution of Christians who were exactly killing them because they would not accept Christianity or in the case of the Christians away from their oppressive rulers. Sixty percent of the world's Christians at one time lived under Islamic rule and they were able to practice their religion. It wasn't the Muslims who almost killed the Jews out of existence compelling them into their religion under Islamic law. It was the Christians who not only would burn them alive in their synagogues and had a pension for crucifying and killing Muslims (something Muslims were NOT allowed to do even when they conquered a place), they were also killing each other over being the wrong denomination.
They also issued edicts enforcing belief in the Trinity, which most Christians at the time did not agree with, again, under threat of violence and coercion and spread their religion through violent and coercive means around the world. Slavery was compulsion and many people were made to be Christian under the threat of violence. If that was truly what Christianity was about, that certainly is a message that for some reason the people closet to Jesus' time didn't get or something modern Christians have remixed and just abandoned, just like most of the practices of Jesus.
Islam is not a religion that adapts and changes over time based upon what men, even Muslims think at the time they're living in. That's not necessary when your religion actually comes from God since it's He knows the future, He knows how to order societies and what will work and He perfects His religion so it is appropriate for all times. And that's a big difference between Christianity and Islam as well.
"You are taking the verse out of context" I've heard that many times. Isn't Allah "the best of deceivers"? How does this guy still believe that Allah can't be false?🎉
Simply Alibi of muslims😢
Allah decieved his own believers. Most Gracious, Most Merciful. False advertising at its finest. Repent and Come to the Lord Jesus Christ.
Because Allah deceived him.
The issue is you are insisting on a word that is not in the text. It's an interpretation. It's like when your Bible says that The Holy Spirit appeared in a Bodily Form of a PIGEON. And the Translators changed Pigeon into a Dove. They didn't want there God to be Pigeon. So your God is actually a PIGEON.
@@Toronado2 actually your god is Satan. Does the Allah claim that he is the best deceiver?
I thought this guy was smart, hindi pala😢😢poor Abdul. Simpling sentences hindi maiintindihan or ayaw intindihin para hindi ma exposed ang kalokohan ni allah. Kawawa naman ang mga Abdul na to, sana mabuksan mga isipan nyo sa katotohanan 🙏
Slaves of Allah have free will???
No we don't. we can't be like you, Christians have sex before marriage, drinking alcohol beverages eating pork & allowing criminals get away w/shop-lifting crime free, celebration of pagan festival such as Christmas, Easter, Ash wendnesday, Birthday.
If you're a Muslims , rules must apply. commandments from GOD (ALLAH)
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OH BOY my Brain hurts 😭
Mine too, dealing with Muslim is such pain it hurts
@@LucastaSibuyithey are draining
This guy believes in evolution 🤦🏾 that’s enough said.
Can you help me understand why is it false? I just learned it in school and im orthodox
"You CAN say that you were deceived but you CANT say that youve been lied to"😂😂😂
Godlogic patience is incredible cause i really didn't want to see the whole video.
If you choose to follow false stories that are telling a lie, you've been deceived. But who lied to you?
What do u mean 600 years, more like 6000, Eve was his first victim.
If you need an example of stupidity I think this Muslim sums it up pretty well.
May God humble him and brings light to his ignorance and pride so he may be saved ✝️
My brain is totally cooked after hearing how it was explained it away 😮
Thank you and well-stated. That Quranic argument says Jesus didn’t die on the cross but that Allâh made it appear someone who looked like Jesus died in his place. That is deception on the part of Allâh when the true God can not lie.
The Quran says no such thing and doesn’t reference the crucifixion of Jesus at all. The verb for crucifixion is ‘SALLABA’ - the verb used in this verse is SALABA. 2 accusations are made in the verse by the Jews:
the illegitimate fatherhood of Jesus (insulting Mary)
Claiming that the Jews had killed him
Allah responds that they didn’t kill him (without explicitly talking about the crucifixion) - what about the other charge against Mary?
The true translation:
“But they didn’t kill him, nor did they ascertain his true (pure) lineage (SALABA) but rather his birth and who his true father was - was made confusing and unclear for them - and those who argue about it don’t know what they are talking about”
Therefore Allah answers both of the charges - the Quran actually tells us who Jesus’s father was.
There is a reason that Muhammad ﷺ did not give any commentary whatsoever on any of the verses related to Jesus and his ‘un’ miraculous birth or any of the verses allegedly talking about the crucifixion. He was specifically commanded not to - the Quran foretells a time when it will be misinterpreted and a time when it will truly reveal itself (in these latter days).
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That's not a lie and God in the Bible sends delusions to those who deserve it. Who was it made to appear to? Since it was not the early Christians during that time who believed it. So why did later Christians believe it? Based on what? There was no evidence Jesus died; lots of evidence he didn't. What were people believing it for and why?
It's incredible what Islam does to your mind
Avery really explains and details their lies and brings it to their face, thats why they tremble and are always stuck 😂
This‼️😗
Bro started beatboxing at 11:15. 🤣😂 Got habibi tripping on his own lies
Covering for a liar is self defeating.Poor Muslims.Jesus Christ is the only Answer.Our Lord and Saviour ✝️🙌🏼
ALLAH THE GREATEST DECEIVER
ALLAH IS RESPONSIBLE FOR
BILLIONS TO BELIEVE / APPEARED
THAT CHRIST IS WAS CRUCIFIED
if you say jesus was crucified,
automaticly , it's is for satan , isn't?
No, he isn't because no one during that time, the eyewitnesses, the people during Jesus' time saw Jesus crucified. It was common belief in the first century that Jesus did not die. The earliest sects did not believe in it. So who was deceived?
@@nunya54 in the same case , ritual like sacrifice is satanic thing.n the devil like abt tht .
@@cutest6562 What ritual like sacrifice is satanic??
@@nunya54 christian crucified their god .
" You are taking the verse out of context", so Allá doesnt follow its own words and context , he need muslims to give context to his own words.
The muslim admitted that allah made it happen. So it is at allah's fault. The problem lies in the quran he keeps quoting context, but when you read the context, it's incoherent
Exactly !
The catch phrase is “allah made it appear to them”
He(allah) knowing all things intentionally provided a false event/ information making it look to them that the lie was the truth.
Allah made me do it!
@@TheLikesofMee god/"jesus" made me a non-believer.
god/"jesus" fault making gang bangers, shop-lifting a free for all crime, police shooting unarmed victim & sooo many protesters around the College campus & high price in food. I blame today problem god/"jesus" for NOT doing NOTHING.
@@umarmujaahid1136 that sounds like a personal problem. I’d bet it is more like Allah/Momo that made you a disbeliever
"Yeah. Wait. Wait. No. Wait. Wait" - this abdool
That stutter at 11:15 was crazy Lol
Sounded like he was beat boxing😂
@@Orthodoxyistheway1234 fr lol
I love the way the caller wrapped up his own argument with exactly what Avery was saying the entire time but he still didn’t seem to realise!😂
My head hurts from listening to this guy
True😂😅
Abdul keeps saying muslim believe in free will??? Qur’an says: “No kind of calamity occurs except by Allah’s permission. Whoever believes in Allah, He will guide his heart. Allah has knowledge of all things.” (Qur’an, 64:11) Believers enjoy the ease and comfort of knowing that everything befalling them is destined to do so.
I’m just gonna put this out there! My Arabic brothers and sisters Gods spirit uses videos like this to show non Arabs and non Muslims the wisdom of Muslims. You all need to fix up!
Consider this.
If a person goes to hell because they lived a life based on a false belief, and the belief was from allah who would be judged?
Now i understand why some ppl get duped into islam, and others stay🤦♀️... Lord help them🙏
God will not deceive, period. He will not appear to crucify Jesus. Jesus will not resurrect with a "spiritual body" and then tell Thomas to put his finger into the "imaginary" holes in His hands and sides. Both Muslims and JWs are making God into a liar.
That's not a true story and the Bible says God will send delusions to those who deserve it. There is no evidence that anyone saw Jesus crucified and lots of evidence it didn't happen and Christians during that time did not believe it.
4:47 😂😂😂😂😂
Cooked then grilled. 😅
Iblis (Satan)] said: “O my Lord! Because you misled me, I shall indeed adorn the path of error for them (mankind) on the earth, and I shall mislead them all.
There’s free will yet you get killed if you don’t want Islam again ? 😂😂😂wow
Islam just doesn't work.
Allah is called the greatest deciever. But its our fault by being decieved by the great allah
This abdool seriously is saying that we are stronger than Allah 😂
and The is no free will in ISLAM
Honestly. Just forget arguing with them after 3 minutes dude. It's not worth it. They will make a martyr of you.
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I swear I've never wanted to Shawn Michaels sweet chin music somebody so bad in my life!!! I commend Godlogic for his patience.
Islam lost again 💯😁👍
While I disagree with you on macro evolution, I still respect and admire your work. Keep it up, brother!
The Christian worldview is the ONLY worldview with Love Truth Morals Logic Science... ALL other worldviews MUST borrow from the Christian worldview, in order to make sense of itself!! 😀 😀 😀
Morals? You can do whatever you like in Christianity as long as you accept Jesus as Lord and savior.
@@nunya54 If you read the bible, you could be educated on the matter, and speak less lies..
Go forth, and sin no more.
How can someone know if the quran is the truth? How can someone know if al’lah will say that ”he only made it appear true and 600years later say that he only made it appear like the truth” If you follow the quran and al’lah nature and history, you have to think that could happen. I would’nt say make something appear false is the best way to make people trust and belive your work or words.. dosen’t make sense.. But maybe i’m just not guided by al’lah and it actully make total sense and I just don’t see it.
But what else could al’lah have made appear something it really isn’t? Nobody knows..
If the quran is true, Just imagien how many people would be sent to hell under those 600 years for simply beliving what al’lah made appear to them.. nah
Firstly, Allah does not hold people accountable for what they don't know but there's no evidence that Jesus died and it's not what the people during that time believed. So who did it appear to for them to believe it false? The Quran says they had no proof; it was conjecture.
@@nunya54 He litterly said he made it appear that way. He made it appear looking like it what are you talking about?