Great video, Carl! Keep up the good work! John "JK" was a great employee when he worked at Nicks off and on from the mid 90's to 2008 learning the logging boot trade.
@@WatchsNBoots Almost the entire PNW boot industry is part of the same family tree. If I'm not mistaken Nick's founder worked for White's, JK worked for Nick's, and Frank's worked for Nick's.
very happy with my superdutys from jk I got them 8 months ago and they’ve been incredibly comfy and my back doesn’t hurt anymore. anytime I call they answer the phone, nice people. I liked this video a lot too
you, weston with rose anvil, and michael with iron snail are essentials for men getting into workwear like myself. great work to all you guys, i thoroughly enjoy your content!
I'm wearing a pair of these boots right now. I'm currently a fedex driver. I chose these boots because I'm running feom 11 to 20 thousand steps a day and carrying boxes up to 150 pounds. My last pair of boots were Danner's and they completely fell apart in 2 months. I've had these things for about 3 months now and they're just getting more comfortable every day. If I had to stand on rebar or a ladder all day, I'd go with the superduty. If you're literally running all over every kind of terrain carrying heavy stuff for hours at a time and jumping in and out of a truck, these work pretty damn well. They look pretty good, too.
FIRST ONE TO COMMENT! LET'S GO!!!! 😂 I love the JK bison OT boots. There such a beautiful boot. Can't wait for them to come in and carl Thanks for the amazing video. Bin watching from the beginning of your channel since i was like 16 or 15!!!! ❤
I got my JK Super Dutys at the beginning of the year and they are by far the most amazing hardcore boots ive ever had. Bullet proof and invincible. Love them!
Ive had a set since last summer and they have been great. Sometimes I miss having thick sole of my previous vibergs but these are way more day to day friendly. Still cant track an excavator backwards in them though. 4.5/5 stars on the Superduty for me
Just ordered two pairs of O.Ts Upper redwood/ lower bison. And full bison with safety toe for when I don’t feel like stomping loggers on the ballast at work Sizing wise. I’m a 10.5D in Nicks Builder Pros I drove to Phoenix az to get a custom fitting(3 hour drive) and went into their shop there. Nick(guy running the shop) sized me up and I turned out to be a 9.5 3E for JKs. I would’ve ordered way wrong on my own. Both brands are amazing. Try them out and get that custom fitting. Don’t guess! Left them a challenge coin as well, he has an assortment of patches and coins from other customers so I pitched in and left a railroad challenge coin.
If you use their guide on their website you should’ve been able to size yourself fine. I was. It literally says not to order your normal shoe size when you’re selecting boot size.
For what it's worth, I believe the gusseted tongue is likely made from tumbled leather. After tanning, leather can be softened up in a machine which resembles a huge clothes dryer. In addition to softening the leather it usually adds that pebbled texture. It is just a side effect of the process, but is quite attractive in its own right. Nice review!
I really appreciate quiet boots. I ride a motorcycle to work and then I'm walking through long quiet hallways to get to and from my work area. That's where a lot of boots and shoes get voted off the island. I've tossed some really attractive footwear that I had high hopes for because it sounded like I strapped a fart to one foot arch and a goose to the other.
Thank you for including the heavy duty perspective. I hadn’t considered that the other guys didn’t have that experience to draw from. As an IronWorker I appreciate a heavy duty boot.
These days, I’ll take a compliment from anyone/everyone willing! I love boots, but at a certain point, there are just too many to wear out and are the ‘same’. I have just retired so now I have boots that will not get worn out. Flip flops and jiu jitsu are now as dressed up as I get regularly.
As an auto mechanic I have a pair of ot and forefront from jk. They are by the best boots I’ve owned. You brought up a great point that these are aimed at a different job then say the superduty.
My biggest question about JK's design is why the hell they do the rapid stitching while using a non-channeled outsole. In their own videos where they show the resole process, it's clear that the thread wears off really quickly not being recessed below the high points of the lugs. Stitching the midsole and gluing/nailing/screwing the outsole would make so fucking much more sense compared to that. It would also make the resole process easier and less dumb because, again, they aren't even ashamed of showing that they don't pull the remains of the rapid stitching and just stitch it again on top of it, which is a complete BS.
I’ve been “shopping” for a year, not buying because Id like to invest in a pair of boots, the right pair of boots. 60ish yrs not the best feet and 350 lbs 1/2 days working 1/2 days driving and office time and live in western Az desert. Believe we should be walking on natural product like leather, I’ve worn out my share of Anderson Beans. I like these but, are they the boot for me ? It’s only a lot of money to someone who made the wrong choice and can’t wear them do to pain, ask me how I know. Thanks for your advice
I loved all of the use case scenarios, but the Metallica metaphor landed home! haha Well done! I have the JK Forefronts, which basically uses the same construction as the OT but with a wedge sole. They are fantastic boots for what I use them for... work around the house, or just casual boots to go stomp around town.
I've been drooling over JKs for a while now. As a telecom lineman who spends a good amount of time climbing ladders and poles, the JK Climbers look like one of the nicest boots around.
@@Review-Thisif you meant thorogoods, no, they are nowhere near these boots. PNW boots are on a whole different level. I went through two pairs of thorogood moc toes in less than 2 years. I have the exact boots he’s reviewing in this video, and they are day and night difference. I’ve had them 11 months now, and besides the honey sole at probably 30% life, if I wash the boots with saddle soap, and let them dry overnight, they look damn new new. The thorogoods were uncomfortable for me after 6 months. The synthetic materials in the sole and midsole would compress and give no cushion after a period of time. These are just leather and rubber, and are more comfortable, more durable, don’t stink, and look better.
Thumbs down on their customer service and lack of knowledge to understand customer needs and concerns on feet and boot sizing, no time to communicate with customer, sent me what I think was an odd size boot JK300 weird fit, never had a boot that was so oversize by the ankle and calf which I believe it was made for another customer and sent it to me. I gave them my size to the "T" based on their sizing instructions I followed. They acknowledged the weird fit from the pics I sent, asked me to ship it back and suggested for me to spend over $600 for a different boot, hmmm? I don't understand that concept! Personally, I'd go with White boots, great boots, great service, they understand "lasts" and have been around for over 100 years now. You can actually talk to a person when call, no messages and phone tags.
Hi! Great review as always, fully agree with just about everything! I just got Superduty's in bison this week and (while they are super duty boots not the lighter OT) they are considerably lighter than the whites 350 cutters I'm moving from. Both the uppers and soles already show more flexibility than my whites with a year+ of daily use ( in part due to the bison upper leather on the jks and the added lineman shank on the whites). My old boots are still indispensable for ladders and sheer stability but for me the superduties already seem more lightweight and mobile than the other really beefy pnw boots like those vibergs you showed. As someone who spends a lot of my time in Washington's forests for work and recreation I can say for me the superduties are the perfect for that task, without feeling like I'm compromising much between durability and comfort. Definitely have lots of love for franks, nicks and whites and all are worth looking into if you are in the sturdy boot market. Thanks!
Boot with a purpose like many others. The key is understanding the purpose and your needs. The OT is very comfortable but lacks that heavy full midsole that is needed in a lot of circumstances.
I agree, it’s the same thing with the White’s Fulton Moc Toe boot. Great boot, but it’s not meant for construction work. It’s a better hiking/farmhand boot than it is for construction. For context I work a lot outside in mud, dirt, gravel. And I am not standing on ladders all day, I’m walking an average of 10-12 miles a day on varied terrain.
I’m a diesel mechanic and absolutely love my JK boots. They also work for chasing cattle on the side of a hella steep, slippery hill. Thank goodness I wore my JK boots that day.
Just ordered a pair in the safety toe. I do mostly light construction (trim carpentry, interior reno etc) with the occasional heavier stuff, so these look ideal. Hopefully a good decision, as paying in Canadian dollars and paying the border taxes bumps the price up a good deal.
For light construction, what I see the professionals wearing is a pair of $5 New Balance running shoes from 1994 that were picked up at a thrift store. The toe comes pre-blown so you will need to re-wrap with your choice of duct tape.
Been wearing my OTs for a year now. My other PNW boots aren’t safety toe so I can’t wear them to work so these OTs are taking a beating. They’ve held up well. I do have some gnarly squeaking around the ball of my foot as I walk but I’ll get that fixed when I get a resolve. I accidentally ordered a 6” and I prefer a 10” boot but these have been perfect for my job. I do commercial and industrial HVAC and refrigeration and these lighter boots are perfect for those tight spaces and crawling. I do have many days where I find them lacking in terms of foot support.
Yeah, I still prefer the full midsole for day to day. There are times when crouching that I really like the flexibility of the OT, but most days I like the full midsole support.
This is exactly why I ordered them. Light to medium boot in bison. Mostly to be worn at knife shows. If I like them , I will order a heavy duty boot for those days I am working hard. Maybe the OT Plus
Great review as always, Carl. And it was very good of you to reinforce *why* you may want a more or less flexible sole. I know you boot/shoe TH-camrs are very supportive of each other, but the BootSpy short featuring a JK OT stating that people might want a more flexible sole for less potential discomfort and break-in flies in the face for those of us who 1. need a stiffer sole for certain work and 2. find it easier to walk, less back pain, and less foot discomfort once a boot with a good arch and stiff sole breaks in. Your review here provides some clarification about that, which is most appreciated. Now I'm off to decide whether or not I take advantage of a Father's Day sale even though I'm not yet sure I'll be going on wildland deployments this summer.... 🤔😅
@@jmarth523 I'm not sure, to be honest. I was kind of being diplomatic about it. The thing is, the name of the short was something like "Do logger heels cause back pain?" And for some people like me, even having a casual boot with a stiffer sole, higher arch, and better fit from a long break-in period makes for a more comfortable boot. So it's not really a work versus casual proposition.
Thank you for the comment! It's all about the right tool for the right job. Honestly, I appreciate more leather beneath my foot while at work. Of course, thats just me! So did you get anything for the fathers day sale?
@@CarlMurawski I'm flattered you replied! I did not get anything...I'm moving in a few months and told myself I need to cut my collection in half first. I just don't wear the items that don't fit as well or the Gortex lined stuff anymore. Trying to train myself for quality over quantity....
GREAT VIDEO! I’ve had JKs for almost 5 years and have 3 pairs, 4th on the way, and I could not be happier with my OTs. Easy break in and quality is top notch and I just can’t wear anything else. Theri customer service has been great too Love the video Carl! Easy to watch and and very upfront
@@lx93racerjust call them. They always answer. When I ordered mine, I spoke to Tim every single time I called. Tim is the guy on their channel most of the time. Pretty weird to talk to one of the main people at the company.
I own some jks, first pair was made wrong and I’m currently waiting for some remakes. Their super duties are fantastic, and personally would never opt out from a complete midsole.
Use my JK’s everyday. Forestry/Fire. Different model. No longer have the roughout. End of this summer or fall, gonna get them resoled. Flat in some parts of the sole. I love my JK boots
Ha ha ha. The album comparison is hilarious. I'm new to boots but I've been a musician the past 20 years. I now understand exactly what I need should I go to JK boots! In the meantime, the White's perrys and Journeyman (journeymen?) will do me fine.
DUUUUUDE, another accurate and to the relevant point article. THUS ? If you are doing middle to light work go JK OT if you are doing heavy work go Super duty. I have a large farm SO,,,OT for me. Bison is awesome. Many thanks for such great review.
Carl, after watching your channel one of the several PNW boots I ordered was the JK OT in smooth bison. They arrived yesterday, so I am looking forward to giving them a good workout.
@@CarlMurawski Mine came in today. The first pnw boots I have owned and the arch was more than I was expecting. Military issue combat boots were my only previous boot experience. They are surprisingly bendable but will take some break in time. Roomy toe box and the honey outsole is great. I want to wear them more to minimize break in time. The stitching looks not man made. It's perfect. I'm 11 in shoe size. C in width by measurement but ordered d per their recommendation and a 10d is perfect.
Carl, it's hard to call "work boots" a work of art, however these are as. Lose as you can get. The lighter tan Vibram is great. I have wide ball section to my foot, so I went with JK 3A again. I probably need a but I'll see if these break in. I have a pair of JK 300's that I had previously ordered to get the sizing down. They fit fine after a week of oiling and using the boot stretcher. I expect these will be the same! I have enlarged my collection of boots, Filson luggage and clothes based on your videos sir. Keep up the good work!
I'm "that guy" with this boot. I have had 2 different OT's (safety toe Redwood/honey & Grey/V100) delivered to me, and promptly returned them before ever wearing them but inside the house to try on. The QC and customer service in my experience is horrific. Additionally, these are extremely expensive for what they are. If they were at $350 price point, I could understand; definitely not at $575 plus. The leather temper seems soft compared to other PNW boots and they typically have poor stitch lines. The boot in the video is a seemingly perfect example, but not what I've seen myself. Your milage may very.
I have the Super Duties and they are like freaking slippers. I’ve been wearing them almost everyday for a year. I take good care of them and they still look pretty much like brand new broke in boots
i need 1" midsole. to sit at my desk job for 10 hours then maybe play some video games for 3 after work. in my herman miller ergonomic chair in my well air conditioned office. its rough in here i tell ya.
@@CarlMurawski I have their Vibrams, Pole Climbers, Insulated Powerlines, and an older pair of Fireboss (discontinued). They have some minor QC issues at times, like left and right boot look different, but mostly cosmetic, not structural. Tough and comfortable once broken in, if a bit heavy. But if you get a good pair they are beautifully crafted and purpose-built. Fair price point too. Solid thumbs up imo. Cheers and thanks!
I really appreciate your perspective on this, because I was really curious what sacrifices were being made to get this level of flexibility. I do a lot of heavy work, but I do also drive a lot of machinery, and I need to be able to feel which pedal my foot is on. My current favorite is the White's Hillyard steel toe, but maybe I'll start saving up for some OTs
Carl, You have more boots than anyone out there! In your opinion, what is the F-150 of boots? If you were going to have one pair for work, cutting firewood, riding a dirt bike & shooting a deer, what are you going with?
I'm going to say the Jim Green Razorback. Originally I thought maybe the Red Wing Iron Ranger, but that can't really do much work since the sole is basically smooth. The Razorback is affordable, durable, and good looking in a utilitarian way.
@@CarlMurawski nice choice, although I have never had a pair. Mine would probably be the Lowa Camino. Thanks for your fun and great content. My wife and I both love the channel. Have a good day!
These other guys like rose anvil doin reviews is silly. They can show how their built which is helpful. But I wouldn't take boot buying advice from guys who don't actually do hard manual labor. Their like city slickers who like boots. Appreciate your thoughts and opinions.
Got a pair of OT's last year to replace some wearing out Danner Bull Run's (not the moc-toe version). Feel great, but getting through some ingrown toenail issues, so haven't worn as much as would like. Got them as a mid-duty boot, so your review isnspot on. Keep up the good work!
I wasn't paid anything to review these. If I were, I'd state it in the beginning of the video. Personally I don't think a review can be done properly if its sponsored by the company itself, then its just a third-party commercial.
I’m intrigued by these since I’m mostly working in the wood shop. No need for steel toes etc. premium on cushioning etc. I have been favoring hiking boots but they aren’t quite tough enough. What are some other boots I should consider?
The JK 300 (wedge sole) or JK 300x (vibram soles) are great for entry level JK boots. The honey vibram sole is nice as well. Better arch support than Red Wings, and only a bit more money. I've worn mine for a couple years, working long hours 6 days a week and no fatigue.
YOU WILL ABSOLUTELY NEVER CONVINCE ME THAT TAYLOR… TAYLOR over at best damn edc does any work that would damage these boots he is the type That wears work boots and does not work in them. Not that there’s anything wrong with that but anyone who is actually a tradesman that uses edc stuff can see that he is in the fashion edc space and not in the functionality
Since my comments were deleted on the rose anvil video hopefully i can post here. these boots look great but i dont like the fact that westin charges 20k to shill for any company that will pay him. how can you have a video saying that a new boot is your favorite pnw boot and it also happens to be sponsored by that company????? the facebook boot groups exposed this shill for what he is. plus removing comments that point it out is even worse.
The problem I have with these is that lineman shank. I have a pair of whites ramblers with that shank in them and it greats a massive pressure point on the outer edge of my foot where it doesn’t flex. Logger heel boots have the outer arch more toward the heel but my ramblers were right in the middle. It’s been 1.5 years and they still haven’t fully molded to my foot. I would definitely need to try the OT on before purchasing them.
Hey Carl you should review the mongrel work boot from Australia top boot I have been wearing it for a year and have not lost a stitch yet. Solid boot and great price point for us aussies
And I don’t understand why boots lover like this style so much! Yeah, they look cool and are well-built, but leather on leather with leather and super stiff rubber outsole is not comfy.
@@bobsmith-ji2uh They are definitely not comfortable for workshop / warehouse work standing, walking, driving 9 hours a day. Like you said, they have zero shock absorption, they are not painful or stressful on your foot but they will be after 4-5 hours and your knees will feel it too.
What was the wait time on these. I’m looking at buying a pair but hearing that people have had to wait 6-8 months. Can’t really afford to wait that long
As an ironworker no one is doing rebar or walking on rebar and a pair of those stilettos. Wedge sole with a shank. All those high heel boots are completely impractical for us. I don't see how people wear those
I just received my fire inlanders and man they push in on the back side of my heel, is there anyone else that has had the same issue and they ended up breaking in and being ok? I really want them to work out
I love your video! It's always nice to see a great new one. But I have a question. Will you ever make a video for the best boots and / or gear for the apocalypse? I really think that a lot of people would love to see that, and it will be very intertaning to see how you categorize the different requirements for each apocalypse.
Taylor at best damn edc and all the other edc guys crack me up. They’re cosplayers pretending to be men that actually work in the trades. Why tf is he buying jk boots when he doesn’t actually work lmao. Imagine it he’s sitting there in his jk boots, with his $800 knife that he only uses to open Amazon packages, getting a manicure and making sure his trendy mullet is cut to his precise specs at the salon.
it sounds to me like I might actually prefer the super duty. I'm an archaeologist so finding the right boot is hard. "work boots" usually assume construction sites. I spend my day hiking(in often rough conditions, currently the Virginia swamps), kicking a shovel several hundred times a day, and carrying about 20 pounds worth of equipment.
I really appreciate the reviews. I am absolutely stumped as to what to get. As far as pnw boots, i had some Drew's packers....too much arch, by the hathorn by whites were great. My old moc toes from the late 90s by redwing wete amazing, but they are no longer made, and the heritage series does not have a wide in 8 inch. My georgia loggers have been solid, but i would like a step up and less heel. I don't ride anylonger, so my packers have been retired. Where do i go? Whites or nicks moc toes? Jk? I am a home owner with a small farm. I will wear these on days off from my 9-5, really 7 to 7, but who is counting. It is wet whete i live. I think there are too many choices and not enough in my bank account to try them all out.
I work in tree trimming, planting, and removal. I wouldn't have any qualms about using that boot. Truth be told, these boots no matter the brand are so expensive, i only know one guy that has a pair of Nick's. Everyone else has just ok boots.
I do building maintenance for a living so I am hell on boots. I’ve wore out Danner, Chippewas, red wing and bates linesman boots. And every pair the midsole crumbled from being worn in wet weather conditions. I’m tired of paying $300 plus in boots and not getting 2 years of use out of them so I don’t need anything light duty. I should make my own reviews I have the worm out boots to back it up.
I do some pretty light to mid work on land I'm looking for an all around boot. Something for almost all purpose from casual events to just hanging out to going into the wood etc. Would you say these would be a good pick ? I'm looking for something that will actually last me and I can take to a cobbler etc.
I live in the south ans unfamiliar with this boot until recently. I do plumbing work for a living. Anyone have any recommendations for this boot for that line of work? Its combination of walking on concrete, out in the elements , and occasional water and crawling also on my knees so the toe will be rubbing against concrete and tile alot. Thanks in advance
To me it sounds like you'll want something with a wedge sole and a toe cap. Nothing is worse than walking on concrete all day without the proper insulation and shock absorption. The cap toe will help with wear, but make sure its a true cap toe. Some brands don't actually use two layers of leather on the toe.
Thank you Carl, Loved the video, appreciate it! And yes, we do love our acronyms 😂
Hahaha it keeps things simple and concise!
Amazing comparative between boots and Metallica albums 🤣🤣. I understood completely what you said by doing it 👌🏻👌🏻.
Rock on!
Awesome video brother, thanks for the shout out
For sure dude!
Great video, Carl! Keep up the good work! John "JK" was a great employee when he worked at Nicks off and on from the mid 90's to 2008 learning the logging boot trade.
Woah, Jk worked for nicks? No wonder his boots are so amazing!
@@WatchsNBoots Almost the entire PNW boot industry is part of the same family tree. If I'm not mistaken Nick's founder worked for White's, JK worked for Nick's, and Frank's worked for Nick's.
very happy with my superdutys from jk I got them 8 months ago and they’ve been incredibly comfy and my back doesn’t hurt anymore. anytime I call they answer the phone, nice people. I liked this video a lot too
Thanks so much! Enjoy!
Much appreciated!
They send way too many emails. I ended up going with a different brand for this reason. They are far too pushy.
you, weston with rose anvil, and michael with iron snail are essentials for men getting into workwear like myself. great work to all you guys, i thoroughly enjoy your content!
I'm wearing a pair of these boots right now. I'm currently a fedex driver. I chose these boots because I'm running feom 11 to 20 thousand steps a day and carrying boxes up to 150 pounds.
My last pair of boots were Danner's and they completely fell apart in 2 months. I've had these things for about 3 months now and they're just getting more comfortable every day.
If I had to stand on rebar or a ladder all day, I'd go with the superduty. If you're literally running all over every kind of terrain carrying heavy stuff for hours at a time and jumping in and out of a truck, these work pretty damn well.
They look pretty good, too.
My danners did the same! Sadly they are a poor boot anymore.
Thank you for sharing! I hope more use cases pop up in the comments. They really help people out!
what danner boot was that? if you would be so kind?
FIRST ONE TO COMMENT! LET'S GO!!!! 😂
I love the JK bison OT boots. There such a beautiful boot. Can't wait for them to come in and carl Thanks for the amazing video.
Bin watching from the beginning of your channel since i was like 16 or 15!!!! ❤
Thanks so much!
I got my JK Super Dutys at the beginning of the year and they are by far the most amazing hardcore boots ive ever had. Bullet proof and invincible. Love them!
Ive had a set since last summer and they have been great. Sometimes I miss having thick sole of my previous vibergs but these are way more day to day friendly. Still cant track an excavator backwards in them though. 4.5/5 stars on the Superduty for me
I used your link and noticed JK has a brand new sizing guide. I think it is a vast improvement over what they had in the past.
Love the metallica reference. Just glad these didn't make it to St. Anger status
Looks like a great boot, well priced too.
Just ordered two pairs of O.Ts
Upper redwood/ lower bison.
And full bison with safety toe for when I don’t feel like stomping loggers on the ballast at work
Sizing wise. I’m a 10.5D in Nicks Builder Pros
I drove to Phoenix az to get a custom fitting(3 hour drive) and went into their shop there.
Nick(guy running the shop) sized me up and I turned out to be a 9.5 3E for JKs. I would’ve ordered way wrong on my own. Both brands are amazing. Try them out and get that custom fitting. Don’t guess!
Left them a challenge coin as well, he has an assortment of patches and coins from other customers so I pitched in and left a railroad challenge coin.
That’s awesome!! Thanks so much for visiting us and thanks for the order
Did you snag a sticker? Nick gave me a couple when I went in.
If you use their guide on their website you should’ve been able to size yourself fine. I was. It literally says not to order your normal shoe size when you’re selecting boot size.
@@BryceKimball7.3 I tried that but I have a weird foot to measure.
For what it's worth, I believe the gusseted tongue is likely made from tumbled leather. After tanning, leather can be softened up in a machine which resembles a huge clothes dryer. In addition to softening the leather it usually adds that pebbled texture. It is just a side effect of the process, but is quite attractive in its own right.
Nice review!
Thanks for the info! Much appreciated
“The boots you wear are like little platforms for your feet!”
Helpful review, thank you.
Most useful review I’ve seen; based on How It’s Used, not made. Thanks.
Glad it was helpful!
I really appreciate quiet boots. I ride a motorcycle to work and then I'm walking through long quiet hallways to get to and from my work area. That's where a lot of boots and shoes get voted off the island. I've tossed some really attractive footwear that I had high hopes for because it sounded like I strapped a fart to one foot arch and a goose to the other.
How thick is a fart that it could be strapped down?
Thank you for including the heavy duty perspective. I hadn’t considered that the other guys didn’t have that experience to draw from. As an IronWorker I appreciate a heavy duty boot.
You guys certainly know all about the importance of the right footwear.
@@CarlMurawski also like the way you encourage, for your viewers benefit, watching other channels for their views and opinions.
These days, I’ll take a compliment from anyone/everyone willing! I love boots, but at a certain point, there are just too many to wear out and are the ‘same’. I have just retired so now I have boots that will not get worn out. Flip flops and jiu jitsu are now as dressed up as I get regularly.
As an auto mechanic I have a pair of ot and forefront from jk. They are by the best boots I’ve owned. You brought up a great point that these are aimed at a different job then say the superduty.
I got the jk 300s I really love them I do want the OT boot tho
My biggest question about JK's design is why the hell they do the rapid stitching while using a non-channeled outsole. In their own videos where they show the resole process, it's clear that the thread wears off really quickly not being recessed below the high points of the lugs. Stitching the midsole and gluing/nailing/screwing the outsole would make so fucking much more sense compared to that. It would also make the resole process easier and less dumb because, again, they aren't even ashamed of showing that they don't pull the remains of the rapid stitching and just stitch it again on top of it, which is a complete BS.
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I’ve been “shopping” for a year, not buying because Id like to invest in a pair of boots, the right pair of boots. 60ish yrs not the best feet and 350 lbs 1/2 days working 1/2 days driving and office time and live in western Az desert. Believe we should be walking on natural product like leather, I’ve worn out my share of Anderson Beans.
I like these but, are they the boot for me ? It’s only a lot of money to someone who made the wrong choice and can’t wear them do to pain, ask me how I know.
Thanks for your advice
Good lookin’ boots! 🔥❤️😍 Interesting point with the ladder foot fatigue example!
Right on target. Scope of work can change, so should your boots.
Amen!
I loved all of the use case scenarios, but the Metallica metaphor landed home! haha Well done! I have the JK Forefronts, which basically uses the same construction as the OT but with a wedge sole. They are fantastic boots for what I use them for... work around the house, or just casual boots to go stomp around town.
Very cool! Metallica for life
I've been drooling over JKs for a while now. As a telecom lineman who spends a good amount of time climbing ladders and poles, the JK Climbers look like one of the nicest boots around.
pfft, wear flip flops like they do in indonesia
TheroGood are great boots
@@gorkyd7912real chad
@@Review-Thisif you meant thorogoods, no, they are nowhere near these boots. PNW boots are on a whole different level. I went through two pairs of thorogood moc toes in less than 2 years. I have the exact boots he’s reviewing in this video, and they are day and night difference. I’ve had them 11 months now, and besides the honey sole at probably 30% life, if I wash the boots with saddle soap, and let them dry overnight, they look damn new new. The thorogoods were uncomfortable for me after 6 months. The synthetic materials in the sole and midsole would compress and give no cushion after a period of time. These are just leather and rubber, and are more comfortable, more durable, don’t stink, and look better.
I have the OTs and love them. I am about to order 300x as my second boot from JK.
Thumbs down on their customer service and lack of knowledge to understand customer needs and concerns on feet and boot sizing, no time to communicate with customer, sent me what I think was an odd size boot JK300 weird fit, never had a boot that was so oversize by the ankle and calf which I believe it was made for another customer and sent it to me. I gave them my size to the "T" based on their sizing instructions I followed. They acknowledged the weird fit from the pics I sent, asked me to ship it back and suggested for me to spend over $600 for a different boot, hmmm? I don't understand that concept! Personally, I'd go with White boots, great boots, great service, they understand "lasts" and have been around for over 100 years now. You can actually talk to a person when call, no messages and phone tags.
Hi! Great review as always, fully agree with just about everything!
I just got Superduty's in bison this week and (while they are super duty boots not the lighter OT) they are considerably lighter than the whites 350 cutters I'm moving from. Both the uppers and soles already show more flexibility than my whites with a year+ of daily use ( in part due to the bison upper leather on the jks and the added lineman shank on the whites). My old boots are still indispensable for ladders and sheer stability but for me the superduties already seem more lightweight and mobile than the other really beefy pnw boots like those vibergs you showed.
As someone who spends a lot of my time in Washington's forests for work and recreation I can say for me the superduties are the perfect for that task, without feeling like I'm compromising much between durability and comfort. Definitely have lots of love for franks, nicks and whites and all are worth looking into if you are in the sturdy boot market. Thanks!
You really cant go wrong with any of those options at all, enjoy!
Boot with a purpose like many others.
The key is understanding the purpose and your needs.
The OT is very comfortable but lacks that heavy full midsole that is needed in a lot of circumstances.
Well said!
I agree, it’s the same thing with the White’s Fulton Moc Toe boot. Great boot, but it’s not meant for construction work. It’s a better hiking/farmhand boot than it is for construction. For context I work a lot outside in mud, dirt, gravel. And I am not standing on ladders all day, I’m walking an average of 10-12 miles a day on varied terrain.
Just got my OT Bison boots in. Absolutely love them!
Good choice!
I’m a diesel mechanic and absolutely love my JK boots. They also work for chasing cattle on the side of a hella steep, slippery hill. Thank goodness I wore my JK boots that day.
Just ordered a pair in the safety toe. I do mostly light construction (trim carpentry, interior reno etc) with the occasional heavier stuff, so these look ideal. Hopefully a good decision, as paying in Canadian dollars and paying the border taxes bumps the price up a good deal.
For light construction, what I see the professionals wearing is a pair of $5 New Balance running shoes from 1994 that were picked up at a thrift store. The toe comes pre-blown so you will need to re-wrap with your choice of duct tape.
Been wearing my OTs for a year now. My other PNW boots aren’t safety toe so I can’t wear them to work so these OTs are taking a beating. They’ve held up well. I do have some gnarly squeaking around the ball of my foot as I walk but I’ll get that fixed when I get a resolve.
I accidentally ordered a 6” and I prefer a 10” boot but these have been perfect for my job. I do commercial and industrial HVAC and refrigeration and these lighter boots are perfect for those tight spaces and crawling. I do have many days where I find them lacking in terms of foot support.
Yeah, I still prefer the full midsole for day to day. There are times when crouching that I really like the flexibility of the OT, but most days I like the full midsole support.
"It's like the Black Album! (...) and you can listen to it with your mom."
😂😂😂
This is exactly why I ordered them. Light to medium boot in bison. Mostly to be worn at knife shows. If I like them , I will order a heavy duty boot for those days I am working hard. Maybe the OT Plus
Drew's Boots for the price are best girl
I hope rose anvil cuts a pair soon. I'm curious how well they are constructed.
Drew’s are fantastic. For that money they’re hard to beat, and I think the Franks Patriot is the only boot in the same category.
@@12345....... he wont unless they pay him. the cost for a rose anvil video is $20k
Great review as always, Carl. And it was very good of you to reinforce *why* you may want a more or less flexible sole. I know you boot/shoe TH-camrs are very supportive of each other, but the BootSpy short featuring a JK OT stating that people might want a more flexible sole for less potential discomfort and break-in flies in the face for those of us who 1. need a stiffer sole for certain work and 2. find it easier to walk, less back pain, and less foot discomfort once a boot with a good arch and stiff sole breaks in. Your review here provides some clarification about that, which is most appreciated.
Now I'm off to decide whether or not I take advantage of a Father's Day sale even though I'm not yet sure I'll be going on wildland deployments this summer.... 🤔😅
I'm mean, if you are watching BootSpy's reviews, you'd have to know that he is speaking from a strictly casual reference point.
@@jmarth523 I'm not sure, to be honest. I was kind of being diplomatic about it. The thing is, the name of the short was something like "Do logger heels cause back pain?" And for some people like me, even having a casual boot with a stiffer sole, higher arch, and better fit from a long break-in period makes for a more comfortable boot. So it's not really a work versus casual proposition.
Thank you for the comment! It's all about the right tool for the right job. Honestly, I appreciate more leather beneath my foot while at work. Of course, thats just me! So did you get anything for the fathers day sale?
@@CarlMurawski I'm flattered you replied! I did not get anything...I'm moving in a few months and told myself I need to cut my collection in half first. I just don't wear the items that don't fit as well or the Gortex lined stuff anymore. Trying to train myself for quality over quantity....
@@InGrindWeCrust2010 I hear that! Good call. Well please keep me posted!
GREAT VIDEO! I’ve had JKs for almost 5 years and have 3 pairs, 4th on the way, and I could not be happier with my OTs. Easy break in and quality is top notch and I just can’t wear anything else. Theri customer service has been great too
Love the video Carl! Easy to watch and and very upfront
Thanks!
Not sure I agree on that customer service. Been trying to reach out since yesterday to ask a question with no luck getting a reply.
@@lx93racer I've never not had the phone answered
@@lx93racerjust call them. They always answer. When I ordered mine, I spoke to Tim every single time I called. Tim is the guy on their channel most of the time. Pretty weird to talk to one of the main people at the company.
I own some jks, first pair was made wrong and I’m currently waiting for some remakes. Their super duties are fantastic, and personally would never opt out from a complete midsole.
Thats my preference as well. The flexibility is nice with the OTs, but I find myself going to the full midsole boots more often than not.
A real man would have put those instructions straight in the bin !
Hahahaha
Use my JK’s everyday. Forestry/Fire. Different model. No longer have the roughout. End of this summer or fall, gonna get them resoled. Flat in some parts of the sole. I love my JK boots
Good looking boots!
Just ordered a set, praying they fit good and are as comfortable & durable as everyone says they are
Interesting as the black album was their top seller. Lol
I work for a rail company where boots don't last but maybe 6 months these would be pushed to their limits in this line of work.
Ha ha ha. The album comparison is hilarious. I'm new to boots but I've been a musician the past 20 years. I now understand exactly what I need should I go to JK boots! In the meantime, the White's perrys and Journeyman (journeymen?) will do me fine.
DUUUUUDE, another accurate and to the relevant point article. THUS ? If you are doing middle to light work go JK OT if you are doing heavy work go Super duty. I have a large farm SO,,,OT for me. Bison is awesome. Many thanks for such great review.
Carl, after watching your channel one of the several PNW boots I ordered was the JK OT in smooth bison. They arrived yesterday, so I am looking forward to giving them a good workout.
How long did yours take to make? Mine will be delivered on Wednesday exactly 6 weeks after I ordered.
What do you think of them so far?
@@CarlMurawski Mine came in today. The first pnw boots I have owned and the arch was more than I was expecting. Military issue combat boots were my only previous boot experience. They are surprisingly bendable but will take some break in time. Roomy toe box and the honey outsole is great. I want to wear them more to minimize break in time. The stitching looks not man made. It's perfect. I'm 11 in shoe size. C in width by measurement but ordered d per their recommendation and a 10d is perfect.
Mine were 6 weeks also.
Carl, it's hard to call "work boots" a work of art, however these are as. Lose as you can get. The lighter tan Vibram is great. I have wide ball section to my foot, so I went with JK 3A again. I probably need a but I'll see if these break in. I have a pair of JK 300's that I had previously ordered to get the sizing down. They fit fine after a week of oiling and using the boot stretcher. I expect these will be the same!
I have enlarged my collection of boots, Filson luggage and clothes based on your videos sir.
Keep up the good work!
I'm "that guy" with this boot. I have had 2 different OT's (safety toe Redwood/honey & Grey/V100) delivered to me, and promptly returned them before ever wearing them but inside the house to try on. The QC and customer service in my experience is horrific. Additionally, these are extremely expensive for what they are. If they were at $350 price point, I could understand; definitely not at $575 plus. The leather temper seems soft compared to other PNW boots and they typically have poor stitch lines. The boot in the video is a seemingly perfect example, but not what I've seen myself. Your milage may very.
Agree completely. I expect JK knew exactly who would be receiving these boots.
I have the Super Duties and they are like freaking slippers. I’ve been wearing them almost everyday for a year. I take good care of them and they still look pretty much like brand new broke in boots
i need 1" midsole. to sit at my desk job for 10 hours then maybe play some video games for 3 after work. in my herman miller ergonomic chair in my well air conditioned office. its rough in here i tell ya.
THESE ARE THE FIRST FLEXIBLE BOOT IV SEEN
Carl. What’s your Brannock size vs the size you ordered the OT boots?
Bro, did you not watch SpongeBob when you’re going up you’re supposed to have squeaky boots😂
Oh yeah!!
I kick a shovel in my ot pros a ton and love them. But everyone is different great vid carl
I'm glad you share my mild disdain for the black album. 😅
Hahahahaha
Another nice review, Carl. Question: have you or will you ever review any Hoffman boots? Thanks.
I absolutely will. Some guys I work with have them and love them.
@@CarlMurawski I have their Vibrams, Pole Climbers, Insulated Powerlines, and an older pair of Fireboss (discontinued). They have some minor QC issues at times, like left and right boot look different, but mostly cosmetic, not structural. Tough and comfortable once broken in, if a bit heavy. But if you get a good pair they are beautifully crafted and purpose-built. Fair price point too. Solid thumbs up imo. Cheers and thanks!
Amazing
I really appreciate your perspective on this, because I was really curious what sacrifices were being made to get this level of flexibility. I do a lot of heavy work, but I do also drive a lot of machinery, and I need to be able to feel which pedal my foot is on. My current favorite is the White's Hillyard steel toe, but maybe I'll start saving up for some OTs
Good advice. These are looking like a great boot for some But, if one does heavy work you likely need a full boot from one of the PNW makers.
Carl, You have more boots than anyone out there! In your opinion, what is the F-150 of boots? If you were going to have one pair for work, cutting firewood, riding a dirt bike & shooting a deer, what are you going with?
I'm going to say the Jim Green Razorback. Originally I thought maybe the Red Wing Iron Ranger, but that can't really do much work since the sole is basically smooth. The Razorback is affordable, durable, and good looking in a utilitarian way.
@@CarlMurawski nice choice, although I have never had a pair. Mine would probably be the Lowa Camino. Thanks for your fun and great content. My wife and I both love the channel. Have a good day!
Thank you for the kind words, cheers!
Thank you for the video! been in the market for a farm boot and seems like these aren’t the case but they sure are beautiful
These other guys like rose anvil doin reviews is silly. They can show how their built which is helpful.
But I wouldn't take boot buying advice from guys who don't actually do hard manual labor. Their like city slickers who like boots.
Appreciate your thoughts and opinions.
Got a pair of OT's last year to replace some wearing out Danner Bull Run's (not the moc-toe version). Feel great, but getting through some ingrown toenail issues, so haven't worn as much as would like. Got them as a mid-duty boot, so your review isnspot on. Keep up the good work!
How much is JK paying these guys to review this boot?
I wasn't paid anything to review these. If I were, I'd state it in the beginning of the video. Personally I don't think a review can be done properly if its sponsored by the company itself, then its just a third-party commercial.
So, what if I want boots just for the style? What would you recommend?
I’m intrigued by these since I’m mostly working in the wood shop. No need for steel toes etc. premium on cushioning etc. I have been favoring hiking boots but they aren’t quite tough enough. What are some other boots I should consider?
The JK 300 (wedge sole) or JK 300x (vibram soles) are great for entry level JK boots. The honey vibram sole is nice as well. Better arch support than Red Wings, and only a bit more money. I've worn mine for a couple years, working long hours 6 days a week and no fatigue.
YOU WILL ABSOLUTELY NEVER CONVINCE ME THAT TAYLOR… TAYLOR over at best damn edc does any work that would damage these boots he is the type
That wears work boots and does not work in them. Not that there’s anything wrong with that but anyone who is actually a tradesman that uses edc stuff can see that he is in the fashion edc space and not in the functionality
Since my comments were deleted on the rose anvil video hopefully i can post here. these boots look great but i dont like the fact that westin charges 20k to shill for any company that will pay him. how can you have a video saying that a new boot is your favorite pnw boot and it also happens to be sponsored by that company????? the facebook boot groups exposed this shill for what he is. plus removing comments that point it out is even worse.
The problem I have with these is that lineman shank. I have a pair of whites ramblers with that shank in them and it greats a massive pressure point on the outer edge of my foot where it doesn’t flex. Logger heel boots have the outer arch more toward the heel but my ramblers were right in the middle. It’s been 1.5 years and they still haven’t fully molded to my foot. I would definitely need to try the OT on before purchasing them.
Great analogy my friend. That was perfect about Metallica. Loved it!!!!
Yeah buddy!
Hey Carl you should review the mongrel work boot from Australia top boot I have been wearing it for a year and have not lost a stitch yet. Solid boot and great price point for us aussies
I'll check it out!
I’ve tried a couple different boots from PNW makers and I just couldn’t get used to the lack of shock absorption. Working on hard surfaces was brutal.
And I don’t understand why boots lover like this style so much! Yeah, they look cool and are well-built, but leather on leather with leather and super stiff rubber outsole is not comfy.
@@walterbryan1798 some guys swear by them a feel they’re very comfortable but they weren’t for me. I guess everyone is different.
@@bobsmith-ji2uh They are definitely not comfortable for workshop / warehouse work standing, walking, driving 9 hours a day. Like you said, they have zero shock absorption, they are not painful or stressful on your foot but they will be after 4-5 hours and your knees will feel it too.
What was the wait time on these. I’m looking at buying a pair but hearing that people have had to wait 6-8 months. Can’t really afford to wait that long
As an ironworker no one is doing rebar or walking on rebar and a pair of those stilettos. Wedge sole with a shank. All those high heel boots are completely impractical for us. I don't see how people wear those
I just received my fire inlanders and man they push in on the back side of my heel, is there anyone else that has had the same issue and they ended up breaking in and being ok? I really want them to work out
Nicks now makes an insole with a shank problem fixed with the same flexibility!
Are these good for gardening/landscape work? I walk a lot and carry heavy loads of gardening waste.
Quality of leather, layers of leather, and shank do all you said and lower quality boots replace those with width.
Would rather have the Kill Em All Boot.
I like the Metallica analogy! Perfect
if I want my upper to last forever, I would use redwing tufftoe on the entirety of the upper.
I love your video! It's always nice to see a great new one. But I have a question. Will you ever make a video for the best boots and / or gear for the apocalypse? I really think that a lot of people would love to see that, and it will be very intertaning to see how you categorize the different requirements for each apocalypse.
Man, that would be a blast to make!!
Super Duty
Wonderful information nicely presented with great humor. What's not to like? Thanks once again, Carl.
Thank you so much!
Nothing wrong with a little overkill... unless you need to do a marathon.
Taylor at best damn edc and all the other edc guys crack me up. They’re cosplayers pretending to be men that actually work in the trades. Why tf is he buying jk boots when he doesn’t actually work lmao. Imagine it he’s sitting there in his jk boots, with his $800 knife that he only uses to open Amazon packages, getting a manicure and making sure his trendy mullet is cut to his precise specs at the salon.
it sounds to me like I might actually prefer the super duty. I'm an archaeologist so finding the right boot is hard. "work boots" usually assume construction sites. I spend my day hiking(in often rough conditions, currently the Virginia swamps), kicking a shovel several hundred times a day, and carrying about 20 pounds worth of equipment.
I really appreciate the reviews. I am absolutely stumped as to what to get. As far as pnw boots, i had some Drew's packers....too much arch, by the hathorn by whites were great. My old moc toes from the late 90s by redwing wete amazing, but they are no longer made, and the heritage series does not have a wide in 8 inch.
My georgia loggers have been solid, but i would like a step up and less heel. I don't ride anylonger, so my packers have been retired.
Where do i go? Whites or nicks moc toes? Jk?
I am a home owner with a small farm. I will wear these on days off from my 9-5, really 7 to 7, but who is counting.
It is wet whete i live.
I think there are too many choices and not enough in my bank account to try them all out.
I work in tree trimming, planting, and removal. I wouldn't have any qualms about using that boot. Truth be told, these boots no matter the brand are so expensive, i only know one guy that has a pair of Nick's. Everyone else has just ok boots.
I do building maintenance for a living so I am hell on boots. I’ve wore out Danner, Chippewas, red wing and bates linesman boots. And every pair the midsole crumbled from being worn in wet weather conditions. I’m tired of paying $300 plus in boots and not getting 2 years of use out of them so I don’t need anything light duty. I should make my own reviews I have the worm out boots to back it up.
Thinking about getting these for my summer boots and my 10 inch Nicks for fall and winter
Love the analogy. ❤️🤘
I do some pretty light to mid work on land I'm looking for an all around boot.
Something for almost all purpose from casual events to just hanging out to going into the wood etc. Would you say these would be a good pick ? I'm looking for something that will actually last me and I can take to a cobbler etc.
Carl, if you had to pick between JK boots and Nicks, which would you choose. I’m a welder and work in power plants.
Nicks, mostly because their sizing system is better and they don’t have the somewhat dorky proportions of JK.
just ordered the bison super dutys......or in Metallica speak "ONE" as always, top qulity video!!!!
They look sharp. The PNW style is not for me because I want some shock absorption when walking on concrete.
Love your channel you have excellent taste I love Kreosote boots I am struggling to order them based in U.K do you have contact details
I live in the south ans unfamiliar with this boot until recently. I do plumbing work for a living. Anyone have any recommendations for this boot for that line of work? Its combination of walking on concrete, out in the elements , and occasional water and crawling also on my knees so the toe will be rubbing against concrete and tile alot. Thanks in advance
To me it sounds like you'll want something with a wedge sole and a toe cap. Nothing is worse than walking on concrete all day without the proper insulation and shock absorption. The cap toe will help with wear, but make sure its a true cap toe. Some brands don't actually use two layers of leather on the toe.