Thanks for having us! It was great come down and spend the day with you making noise. If anyone has any questions, feel free to drop them to us here and we'll answer what we can!
Woah, so you don’t need the power amp switch found on your amp recreations anymore? This pedals just “knows” whether it’s being plugged into a traditional amp or being used direct? (Love your pedals, and use your amp recreations for direct recording with the new IR’S)
@@bleeknoir That's what the POST-EQ is. 'FLAT' is essentially the new name for P/AMP mode. Given you can use that mode into Cab Sims, Power-Amps and otherwise, it made sense to us to make the name more neutral.
@@OriginEffectsUKThanks so much for the reply. It’s going to be a very ‘origin’ Christmas in my house this year, with a Deluxe 61 and a Halcyon Blue on the way.
Just pulled the trigger and bought the pedal from you guys. Thanks for the awesome video. It pushed me over the edge for sure ! ! ! "It's a LONG WAY to the TOP if you wanna ROCK -N- ROLL" . . . .
I did get the amp/pedal compare right, but I am also wanting to say I am really impressed with how great that pedal sounds. Excellent piece of kit! Great video!
It's immediately obvious which is which, because we can see the wiring of the switcher. That being said, this is obviously a great pedal that is going to sell a lot of units. Another winner from Origin Effects.
I liked the green side a little better, so I'm pretty amazed that it was the pedal. I guess I shouldn't be surprised though. I have a few of their pedals, and I don't know what sorcery they're up to at Origin Effects, but they make incredible stuff imo
Such a great demo and explanation. My original query was about this pedal going into the front of the amp, and that was addressed with the amazing EQ functionality. And the pre-amp valve option - wow!
Great video, what a tone straight into the amp! Not sure how much the Origin Effects pedal is, but a relatively affordable alternative is the Crazy Tube Cicuits Falcon, about £150 I think. I got one over the summer for a Neil Young gig I did last weekend; it was incredible and did the Tweed on the verge of exploding tone really well.
received the pedal today - holy shit - what a fu....ing great pedal !!! best overdriven sound i´ve ever heard ! increadible ... i´m speachless - never been so impressed by a pedal
Wow, great sounds! Brilliant job on the pedal! And the best recommendation is always when someone just wants to continue playing! Enough said! Total success!
I've said this on other Tweed video comment sections, but I want to spread it for those who want that sound and will never be able to afford one (or even this £279 pedal): The Vox Valvetronix series (VT15 in particular) has phenomenal Tweed modeling, especially the Twin Reverb. Plus their model of the AC15 with treble boost built in. There is so much value to be had in that corner of the used market. Some people have called the amp's valve a gimmick but it definitely adds something to its warmth and the way it responds.
You have to be in the room with these amps. They have a very complex, woody, and 3 dimensional sound, that must be experienced live and in person, to be fully appreciated.
How many people run across a tweed that they are also allowed to plug into? I've been playing over 30 years and never have plugged into a 50's tweed. Meantime there's an alternative.
I’ve gigged a 57 Tweed Deluxe for 25 years and use a Clark Beaufort replica for a backup. Works in all situations and I have no need for boost or overdrive. Best guitar amp I’ve ever used.
I’ve got the UA Woodrow which as far as I’m concerned is a faithful recreation of the Tweed Deluxe. Would love to see a comparison between the two, but the UA comes complete with cabs and a fantastic ‘room’ knob for presence. I don’t know if the Origin has me selling my Woodrow just yet.
I owned the Dream and Ruby for a couple years.. then picked up a Woodrow when I saw one on Craigslist for $120 in mint condition(!) and it has since become my fav UAFX pedal by far. I cannot fathom why it is so unpopular compared to the Ruby and Dream, which are both great pedals, but the Woodrow actually FEELS like an amp when you play, that perfect tube sag and just the right kinda flub when playing an old Harmony Rocket through a cranked Woodrow... best $120 I've ever spent on gear, hands down!
Well, I have the Woodrow as well and the main difference is latency - when I play a hollow-body, e.g. ES-330 / Casino, through the Woodrow, the tone comes clearly after I feel the string vibration in my chest. The OE pedals are analog, their latency can't even be measured using available tools. I do have the OE Deluxe 61 and Magma 57 pedals and do prefer them over digital every day - obviously, I have not tried the Deluxe 55 yet...
@@uwedasler425 I play a casino (as well as Jazzmaster and tele) through the Woodrow and have never had latency problems. Has always sounded brilliant to my ears!
@@lincolnshaw5667 Listen, this is not a matter of opinion, it is fact-based. The Woodrow does have around 3 ms latency and this can be felt, latencies under 7-8 ms can not be heard by humans, and I did not state that. If it does not bother you, that's totally fine, doesn't mean it does not exist,
@@uwedasler425 hmmm that'd odd? I pretty much only play Casinos and ES-330s through my Woodrow (occasionally a deeper Gretsch hollowbody) and haven't noticed any latency issues at all
although I've never played a UA Woodrow in person, this Deluxe55 sounds so much closer to a real 5E3 based on the various videos I've seen of both pedals. Been watching this channel for several years and I have to say this is the best tone they've ever had on the show. Both the real amp and the pedal sounded fantastic. With headphones I could hear all of the nuances of a 5E3....that spitty raspiness, warm/round tone. It sounded great clean with some hair on it and also sounded great when it was cranked up and ready to explode. This is top notch
Asbestos: first time I hear this important issue being addressed in a video on vintage amps. Indeed it is an issue and this kept me away from allowing vintage amps into my house.
@ Possibly, however blackface amps with frontpanel are less likely to have asbestos as heatshield. Take the amp outside, wear a mask and take the backplate off. If there is a greyish, cement-like board glued as heat protection to the pine or plywood backplate, you should get this professionally removed and cleaned.
When I tried a model of a Tweed in the QC (5F8-A) for the first time, I was so surprised that I could get a Marshall sound from it. Really cool and underrated amps imho 🔥
Great video, I’m buying this pedal asap. Once you’d changed the tube for the “correct” one in the real amp, I found the pedal more or less indistinguishable. Possibly a hair more top end clarity, a hair less compressed and a hair less nasal in the midrange…could just be a difference in settings though. Awesome product and demo of said product.
What a great pedal! I spent a considerable amount of time building and refining a 5E3 replica. One of the things people fail to recognize, is the huge interaction between the two volume controls. Also, the light pine cab almost makes reverb unnecessary. Combine that with how reactive the amp is to your touch and the volume control(s) on your guitar, and you can get an almost infinite range of tones out of these little monsters. 12AY7 in mine.
Sounds great...I run my tweed a hot clean, then boost it with a ts9 as a first stage, RC booster as second, then an eq pedal after them for solo boosts...magic!
I dig this kinda stuff, especially for hobbyist folks like myself. I have a 26 track home studio, strictly for kicks (MOTU 828es with a couple old Profire 2626 in stand-alone mode, doing 8 out/in via ADAT optical). I have a real drum kit (I get great drum sounds, if I do say so myself), but modeled keyboards (Arturia) then I bought UA amp sim pedals to make it easy for my music buddies to come over, plug in guitars, and go...without all the fiddly bits of a Quad cortex and the like. I've watched a bunch of these Andertons videos and others where they do A / B (real tube amps / amp sims) with professional guitarists, and when it's a coin toss whether they can pick "the real valve amp", or they just get it plain wrong, like when Chappers had blindfold combo amps (all tube / hybrid tube with digital / lastly, full digital) and after all the chunge / chonk he was doing, he was sure that he knew what the all valve/tube amp was...but he picked the all digital... as I'm mainly a bassist (I do have a Two Notes "Le Bass" for actual tube pre, and Two Notes Torpedo C.A.B. used in this video), and a Geddy fan--finding that Geddy stopped using real amps many, many years ago--I don't care so much about real versus sim, and as a hobbyist musician & self proclaimed recording engineer, these things make it so convenient to get the sound of expensive, classic guitar rigs, without the expense and maintenance. I have a thing about getting the intonation of my basses/guitars as good as possible, so my band buddies walk in, grab a guitar, tune it up, and we make tasty recordings...and now I wish I woulda seen this before I bought digital sims, cuz at least I could still have the warm fuzzies of an "all analog" guitar sim...but my ears can't tell the difference anyway. Yay 21st century gear!
Sorry if I missed it or misunderstood but if its an amp in a box, what is it plugged into. The IR loader and then into a speaker? Pedals normally go into amps, so im a bit confused.
The original amp sounded a bit more fuzzy, hotter and boomey which made me guess correctly which is which, however these solid state simulations and digital sims are getting fantastic everytime. A very nice pedal and presentation thanks.
For me these demo's are somewhat of a parlor trick. You could take just about any amp or modeler (including a line 6 pod) add an eq pedal and the right IR's and get the same results.
For anyone who doesn’t mind DIY and using a soldering iron you can build great clones of vintage amplifiers. The schematics are easily available and lots of companies to get all the parts you need from.
Very true. I've had a couple of real ones and built my own. I haven't compared them side by side yet - but I put a P12Q and a 12ax7 in V1 and it is on the money!
Could tell straight off the red was the amp, that pedals just a touch brighter. The amp had that ever so slightly darker and certainly slightly warmer sound with the Les Paul. Nice!
How would this piece of kit compare to the tube pre-amps from a while back if using it as a pedal platform? Will the pedal react nicely to overdrive and boost pedals?
I have a Revival Drive and love it. Could John? suggest some settings that may get close to this pedal. I know it depends on the amp too but I'm thinking about a CabM and IR's for recording.
For me, the tell is in the “fry” of the distortion. Tone-wise, clean, they are very very close. When there is fuzziness, I feel like that edgy part of it gets digital sounding to my ear. I have done enough comparison now of pedals, that unfortunately my ear goes right to it and it’s hard to unhear. If these amp sim pedals can get that digital fizzy stuff sorted, I am sure I won’t be able to tell the difference on a record.
The red sounded richer and more complex harmonically to my ears and that turned out to be the amp. But the pedal is very good and a lot easier to get hold of!
Both sound great and so close you'd never tell the difference in a band or mixed track context. As John says, if you put two 'identical' tube amps side by side with the same settings on the dials, they'd probably sound more different... I'm also wondering how much of that Tweed Deluxe is totally original - surely all the power supply and coupling capacitors have been changed by now, and maybe the odd resistor? My point being, maybe it doesn't matter how old/original stuff is - if it sounds great, it is great : ) But there's no question that Origin Effects have done a great job (as usual) with this one! Thank you - my order has been placed!
On the red side it sounds like the tone needs rolling off a bit. Green highs are more saturated when power chord strums. Pedal characteristic seems to nail the sound pretty bang on. £250 - is a lot cheaper than the amp (and much lighter!!). Really interesting.
No you can use it on a front of your own tube amp and use the post eq button to obtain a very close sound to the Tweed, or, if your amp as an FX loop, just put the pedal in the loop. Also if you want to use it direct in a console, yes, you might need an IR loader, but there are very nice one much cheaper than the UAFX or the Torpedo, like the Boss IR-2 or other from less known brands...
Nice work, however I must make a couple of comments as I’m fortunate to own a genuine 1957 Deluxe, a 1956 low power Twin and two high power Twins from ‘57 and ‘59. Along with Silvertones, Selmers, Voxes and about 50 vintage guitars from the golden era. You really should involve me in some of these things! Firstly the 5E3 came stock with a Jensen P12R driver which I don’t care for too much. It saturates a bit too early. For the past 20 years I’ve been a Jensen artist and been using a reissue P12N but I fancied something different. I have a 1960 P12Q that didn’t quite get there. I wanted a bit cleaner headroom and more bass, so I settled on a 1958 12” Magnavox speaker I brought back from LA about 11 years ago. It’s the original P12N, made by the same guy, Peter Jensen. I think I’m happy with that for now. It’s interesting to note that Neil Young replaced his P12R with a mid 60s C12N, I guess for the same reasons as mine. Not only him, but I had a good talk to Steven Stills who, like Neil, combines a 5E3 with a tweed Twin for their sounds. So, now my 5E3 has better low end and cleaner volume range. It’s a bit more versatile and a tad louder. I would have preferred to hear a Strat that was more “period correct” than noiseless pickups and underworld PAFs, maybe a vintage reissue? FWIW Hayden Minett at Bulldog Pickups in Yorkshire makes WONDERFUL vintage spec pickups that he’s given me over the years. Live, I run my 5E3, combined with a 1964 Princeton non Reverb amp and those two amps together are about as great a sound as you can get. Especially with my stock 1961 and 1963 Strats, a 1954 Junior, 1968 Firebird a choice of five Echoplexes, old Tonebenders, fuzz faces and 1966 Rangemaster treble booster. Maybe IRs of different speakers would be good to capture a bit more low end that these amps are capable of? I love this show and available for any communication to help our vintage guitar fraternity. I like to get involved!
Complete jaw drop when the price was revealed - was expecting £350+ Cheaper than a 55 Tweed amp Kit and you'd still have to fork out for cabinet and speakers
a great video might be lee and pete at a vintage music store trying out vintage gear and there thoughts vs modern .... i guessed right, the amp sounded warmer, surprised i could tell, youtube's sound quality is getting better ...
You can certainly tell the difference in the way that they sounded. The amp did compress more and sounded a bit boxy, whereas the pedal started to sound harsh and unpleasant. I think the pedal sounds good, but they don't quite react the same. But it's a lot cheaper to buy amp in a box pedals than it is to buy vintage amps. Plus the pedals don't take up nearly as much room.
I got it. Red side is warmer and I'm listening on an imac (not a macbook, the speakers are actually kinda good for what it is). The pedal is still very impressive though.
Could you explain your setup, please? You heard the amp by its own speaker, and the pedal via the monitors? And nobody could hear what was the amp and what was the pedal?
I didn't notice a part where they showed the settings on the original amp... what were they Lee? Just got an update 1.4 on the Fender tonemaster pro including a 59 and just with a Klon and the amp and a reverb it sounds pretty similar to this.. not even knowing what the settings are.
One question that always comes when I hear this amp pedal is : Do they sound the same through a solid state or a tube amp? Or do these pedals sound better through a sound card?
Have you guys ever considered doing a Synergy module? Not sure how much engineering overlap there is between a tube preamp platform and these pedals, but I'm sure there would be some interest in having these sounds in that form factor. Or another idea would be an amp in the room pedal that recreates the reactance discussed in the video (UAFX Ox Stomp?).
It wasn’t hard to guess which one was which. The pedal was a lot cleaner with less room/air to start with. It also is less lively. It does a great job though!
This sounds really great. I've heard great things about Origin Effects pedals but haven't tried them yet. I'm curious how this pedal compares with potential alternatives like the Catalinbread Formula 55, and anything else out there that might try to achieve the same result. I have their Formula 5F6 and I love its sound. I'm tempted to save my pennies to get this Origin Effects pedal because I love that sound.
Tonally, I couldn't tell any difference but on the 'red' sound there was a little more ringing like there was more feedback that might be being picked up from other items around the room.
That was great, much cheaper than buying a Lazy J! Any chance of a demo of the pedal into the front of fairly standard Fender valve amp, perhaps a Hot Rod Deluxe? It would be nice to hear if the Post EQ section does what it says on the tin
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Stay tuned until 31:41 for the most accurate comparison between the real amp and the Origin Effect Deluxe 55!
Thanks for having us! It was great come down and spend the day with you making noise.
If anyone has any questions, feel free to drop them to us here and we'll answer what we can!
Not a question just want to say you never miss with a pedal! Sounds amazing
Woah, so you don’t need the power amp switch found on your amp recreations anymore? This pedals just “knows” whether it’s being plugged into a traditional amp or being used direct? (Love your pedals, and use your amp recreations for direct recording with the new IR’S)
@@bleeknoir That's what the POST-EQ is. 'FLAT' is essentially the new name for P/AMP mode.
Given you can use that mode into Cab Sims, Power-Amps and otherwise, it made sense to us to make the name more neutral.
Incredible work guys
@@OriginEffectsUKThanks so much for the reply. It’s going to be a very ‘origin’ Christmas in my house this year, with a Deluxe 61 and a Halcyon Blue on the way.
when he was switching back and forth at the end you couldn't tell at all that anything was even changing. truly impressive
It’s pretty amazing how close they are to one another. Fantastic product. The Fender is exceptional as well, sounds delicious.
Very convincing demo vid ... this is a great reincarnation of a beloved historic amp
Thanks a lot for sharing
The patina on that Tweed Deluxe is just gorgeous!
The color of the shellac is amazing!
And oh my the sound!
The lack of asbestos! 😂 Yeah, it sounds sooo freakin good. This is why people pay thousands for a vintage Fender, right.
I honestly liked the green side much more. Better low end and high end and it sounds more open. Love it!
$340 pedal vs Thousands for the real thing. no brainer for me. The pedal is close enough.
They also didn't match valves until later in the video
Just pulled the trigger and bought the pedal from you guys. Thanks for the awesome video. It pushed me over the edge for sure ! ! ! "It's a LONG WAY to the TOP if you wanna ROCK -N- ROLL" . . . .
I did get the amp/pedal compare right, but I am also wanting to say I am really impressed with how great that pedal sounds. Excellent piece of kit! Great video!
I’m only eight minutes in on the video, and that tweed deluxe is the sound of dreams! Can’t wait to hear how this pedal measures up!
these kind of pedals 'are sound- a-likes' they sound something like the amp they are mimicking but will not replace those amps ..
It's immediately obvious which is which, because we can see the wiring of the switcher. That being said, this is obviously a great pedal that is going to sell a lot of units. Another winner from Origin Effects.
I liked the green side a little better, so I'm pretty amazed that it was the pedal. I guess I shouldn't be surprised though. I have a few of their pedals, and I don't know what sorcery they're up to at Origin Effects, but they make incredible stuff imo
Such a great demo and explanation. My original query was about this pedal going into the front of the amp, and that was addressed with the amazing EQ functionality. And the pre-amp valve option - wow!
Great video, what a tone straight into the amp! Not sure how much the Origin Effects pedal is, but a relatively affordable alternative is the Crazy Tube Cicuits Falcon, about £150 I think. I got one over the summer for a Neil Young gig I did last weekend; it was incredible and did the Tweed on the verge of exploding tone really well.
The range of sounds coming out of that amp between 4m35s and 5m26s are simply beautiful! 😍
they sound pretty damn same to me!
but if you disagree, always remember, it's close enough for rock n' roll!
1) amazing pedal - think I need one !!
2) awesome presentation - as an Engineer I have to say if I lived in UK I'd apply for a job at at Origin FX
Holy mother of amps… Let’s just have a reissue of this amp… 😜🇦🇺
received the pedal today - holy shit - what a fu....ing great pedal !!! best overdriven sound i´ve ever heard ! increadible ... i´m speachless - never been so impressed by a pedal
5 days ago. Never have so much fun to Play Guitar !! Already Dream about the Pedal … Crazy !!!
Wow, great sounds! Brilliant job on the pedal! And the best recommendation is always when someone just wants to continue playing! Enough said! Total success!
That pedal is a work of genius ! ❤🎸
I've said this on other Tweed video comment sections, but I want to spread it for those who want that sound and will never be able to afford one (or even this £279 pedal): The Vox Valvetronix series (VT15 in particular) has phenomenal Tweed modeling, especially the Twin Reverb. Plus their model of the AC15 with treble boost built in. There is so much value to be had in that corner of the used market. Some people have called the amp's valve a gimmick but it definitely adds something to its warmth and the way it responds.
I agree. I travelled to a wedding, mate said got an amp, just bring guitar etc. Very impressed with the little Vox.
Nice thanks for putting it out there.
I haven't smiled this much from a video in awhile and from the 1st strum of the guitar just loved it.Thanks!!
You have to be in the room with these amps. They have a very complex, woody, and 3 dimensional sound, that must be experienced live and in person, to be fully appreciated.
How many people run across a tweed that they are also allowed to plug into? I've been playing over 30 years and never have plugged into a 50's tweed. Meantime there's an alternative.
I’ve gigged a 57 Tweed Deluxe for 25 years and use a Clark Beaufort replica for a backup. Works in all situations and I have no need for boost or overdrive. Best guitar amp I’ve ever used.
Man, a lot of pedals claim a lot of things but this is a rare one that backs it up. Good work Origin!
Imagine the chaos with Danish Pete in the room! We need that video!
What a great job by OriginEffectsUK You guys can feel the love in it! Sounds killer, I think I'm going to be in trouble with my wife over this one😋
I’ve got the UA Woodrow which as far as I’m concerned is a faithful recreation of the Tweed Deluxe. Would love to see a comparison between the two, but the UA comes complete with cabs and a fantastic ‘room’ knob for presence. I don’t know if the Origin has me selling my Woodrow just yet.
I owned the Dream and Ruby for a couple years.. then picked up a Woodrow when I saw one on Craigslist for $120 in mint condition(!) and it has since become my fav UAFX pedal by far. I cannot fathom why it is so unpopular compared to the Ruby and Dream, which are both great pedals, but the Woodrow actually FEELS like an amp when you play, that perfect tube sag and just the right kinda flub when playing an old Harmony Rocket through a cranked Woodrow... best $120 I've ever spent on gear, hands down!
Well, I have the Woodrow as well and the main difference is latency - when I play a hollow-body, e.g. ES-330 / Casino, through the Woodrow, the tone comes clearly after I feel the string vibration in my chest. The OE pedals are analog, their latency can't even be measured using available tools. I do have the OE Deluxe 61 and Magma 57 pedals and do prefer them over digital every day - obviously, I have not tried the Deluxe 55 yet...
@@uwedasler425 I play a casino (as well as Jazzmaster and tele) through the Woodrow and have never had latency problems. Has always sounded brilliant to my ears!
@@lincolnshaw5667 Listen, this is not a matter of opinion, it is fact-based. The Woodrow does have around 3 ms latency and this can be felt, latencies under 7-8 ms can not be heard by humans, and I did not state that. If it does not bother you, that's totally fine, doesn't mean it does not exist,
@@uwedasler425 hmmm that'd odd? I pretty much only play Casinos and ES-330s through my Woodrow (occasionally a deeper Gretsch hollowbody) and haven't noticed any latency issues at all
The little reduction in the tone at 32:37 makes all the difference - damn near identical after that tweak.
although I've never played a UA Woodrow in person, this Deluxe55 sounds so much closer to a real 5E3 based on the various videos I've seen of both pedals. Been watching this channel for several years and I have to say this is the best tone they've ever had on the show. Both the real amp and the pedal sounded fantastic. With headphones I could hear all of the nuances of a 5E3....that spitty raspiness, warm/round tone. It sounded great clean with some hair on it and also sounded great when it was cranked up and ready to explode. This is top notch
Asbestos: first time I hear this important issue being addressed in a video on vintage amps. Indeed it is an issue and this kept me away from allowing vintage amps into my house.
I have a 1968 fender super reverb; drip edge.. am I in danger?
I honestly think Joe Bonamassa should be worried now 💀☠
@ Possibly, however blackface amps with frontpanel are less likely to have asbestos as heatshield. Take the amp outside, wear a mask and take the backplate off. If there is a greyish, cement-like board glued as heat protection to the pine or plywood backplate, you should get this professionally removed and cleaned.
I didn’t even know this was a thing until this video.
@@IronSwan-ll5ju Asbestos that's not damaged and unlikely to be disturbed is usually not harmful.
When I tried a model of a Tweed in the QC (5F8-A) for the first time, I was so surprised that I could get a Marshall sound from it. Really cool and underrated amps imho 🔥
Makes sense, as Marshalls were effectively born out of Tweed-era Fender amplifier circuits.
Great video, I’m buying this pedal asap. Once you’d changed the tube for the “correct” one in the real amp, I found the pedal more or less indistinguishable. Possibly a hair more top end clarity, a hair less compressed and a hair less nasal in the midrange…could just be a difference in settings though. Awesome product and demo of said product.
Lee, you are a master salesman. We salute you.
What a great pedal! I spent a considerable amount of time building and refining a 5E3 replica. One of the things people fail to recognize, is the huge interaction between the two volume controls. Also, the light pine cab almost makes reverb unnecessary. Combine that with how reactive the amp is to your touch and the volume control(s) on your guitar, and you can get an almost infinite range of tones out of these little monsters. 12AY7 in mine.
jeeez I'm sold on needing a 5e3, that's for sure.
I'm sold on a Tonex One with a 5e3 'captured' profile. And Seymour Duncan PowerStage amp. And a 2 x 12 cab.
Sounds great...I run my tweed a hot clean, then boost it with a ts9 as a first stage, RC booster as second, then an eq pedal after them for solo boosts...magic!
I dig this kinda stuff, especially for hobbyist folks like myself. I have a 26 track home studio, strictly for kicks (MOTU 828es with a couple old Profire 2626 in stand-alone mode, doing 8 out/in via ADAT optical). I have a real drum kit (I get great drum sounds, if I do say so myself), but modeled keyboards (Arturia) then I bought UA amp sim pedals to make it easy for my music buddies to come over, plug in guitars, and go...without all the fiddly bits of a Quad cortex and the like. I've watched a bunch of these Andertons videos and others where they do A / B (real tube amps / amp sims) with professional guitarists, and when it's a coin toss whether they can pick "the real valve amp", or they just get it plain wrong, like when Chappers had blindfold combo amps (all tube / hybrid tube with digital / lastly, full digital) and after all the chunge / chonk he was doing, he was sure that he knew what the all valve/tube amp was...but he picked the all digital... as I'm mainly a bassist (I do have a Two Notes "Le Bass" for actual tube pre, and Two Notes Torpedo C.A.B. used in this video), and a Geddy fan--finding that Geddy stopped using real amps many, many years ago--I don't care so much about real versus sim, and as a hobbyist musician & self proclaimed recording engineer, these things make it so convenient to get the sound of expensive, classic guitar rigs, without the expense and maintenance. I have a thing about getting the intonation of my basses/guitars as good as possible, so my band buddies walk in, grab a guitar, tune it up, and we make tasty recordings...and now I wish I woulda seen this before I bought digital sims, cuz at least I could still have the warm fuzzies of an "all analog" guitar sim...but my ears can't tell the difference anyway. Yay 21st century gear!
I could tell the red side was the amp because the green side sounded too hifi to be from 55'. But, i will say they are really close
Agreed ... in the low frequencies the pedal matches better than in the high ones ... 'hifi' - thx for the right term ... 👍
Might be something that can be refined easily in the IR loader. Roll off some of that extra high end that modelers have too much of.
Ok, I'm getting one of those now, what a great pedal!
Sorry if I missed it or misunderstood but if its an amp in a box, what is it plugged into. The IR loader and then into a speaker? Pedals normally go into amps, so im a bit confused.
54 and 55 deluxe is a magical amp, the harmonic overtones are just very rich and it's very touch sensitive.
The original amp sounded a bit more fuzzy, hotter and boomey which made me guess correctly which is which, however these solid state simulations and digital sims are getting fantastic everytime. A very nice pedal and presentation thanks.
0:16 I translated the beep to “f****ing” and it sounded fantastic. Thanks, mates
I have a Lazy J20, sounds just like the demo on both the Fender and also the pedal.
Same. Amazing amp
For me these demo's are somewhat of a parlor trick. You could take just about any amp or modeler (including a line 6 pod) add an eq pedal and the right IR's and get the same results.
Do you mostly use a modeler?
not quite.
You heard it hear first folks. Buy anything and eq it to sound just like the holy grail gear.
Do you have no clue what you're talking about this is the actual 5E3 circuit 🤦♂️
The Clapton boost circuit is still at about +3db when not turned up, don’t forget that!!!!
For anyone who doesn’t mind DIY and using a soldering iron you can build great clones of vintage amplifiers. The schematics are easily available and lots of companies to get all the parts you need from.
Very true. I've had a couple of real ones and built my own. I haven't compared them side by side yet - but I put a P12Q and a 12ax7 in V1 and it is on the money!
Could tell straight off the red was the amp, that pedals just a touch brighter. The amp had that ever so slightly darker and certainly slightly warmer sound with the Les Paul. Nice!
the red sounded better to me love the vid.
How would this piece of kit compare to the tube pre-amps from a while back if using it as a pedal platform?
Will the pedal react nicely to overdrive and boost pedals?
Id defiantly consider this pedal as a purchase.
I remember him from the Orange videos! Good to see him again!
I have a Revival Drive and love it. Could John? suggest some settings that may get close to this pedal. I know it depends on the amp too but I'm thinking about a CabM and IR's for recording.
Just ordered the pedal from Origin...nice...
Well done!
Good video. Don't forget to have a Catlinbread 55 pedal. Very similar.
For me, the tell is in the “fry” of the distortion. Tone-wise, clean, they are very very close. When there is fuzziness, I feel like that edgy part of it gets digital sounding to my ear. I have done enough comparison now of pedals, that unfortunately my ear goes right to it and it’s hard to unhear. If these amp sim pedals can get that digital fizzy stuff sorted, I am sure I won’t be able to tell the difference on a record.
The red sounded richer and more complex harmonically to my ears and that turned out to be the amp. But the pedal is very good and a lot easier to get hold of!
WANT! MY Fender Blues Deville amp needs some of this ⚡️
So Origin Effects Deluxe 55 Vs. UA FX Woodrow 55!!
Both sound great and so close you'd never tell the difference in a band or mixed track context. As John says, if you put two 'identical' tube amps side by side with the same settings on the dials, they'd probably sound more different...
I'm also wondering how much of that Tweed Deluxe is totally original - surely all the power supply and coupling capacitors have been changed by now, and maybe the odd resistor? My point being, maybe it doesn't matter how old/original stuff is - if it sounds great, it is great : )
But there's no question that Origin Effects have done a great job (as usual) with this one! Thank you - my order has been placed!
Hello? This is America calling....we would like our amp back! Well done Origin effects!
M8 plays a mighty tune 😮
You two look like brothers
Brothers with benefits.
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On the red side it sounds like the tone needs rolling off a bit. Green highs are more saturated when power chord strums.
Pedal characteristic seems to nail the sound pretty bang on. £250 - is a lot cheaper than the amp (and much lighter!!). Really interesting.
With a high end pair of headphones, I honestly can't tell the difference between them. Might be a worthwhile purchase.
Question is, this in front of a UAFX Dream, or just get a Woodrow for a little cheaper?
So this pedal needs something like the ox stomp by UA to work correct?
No you can use it on a front of your own tube amp and use the post eq button to obtain a very close sound to the Tweed, or, if your amp as an FX loop, just put the pedal in the loop. Also if you want to use it direct in a console, yes, you might need an IR loader, but there are very nice one much cheaper than the UAFX or the Torpedo, like the Boss IR-2 or other from less known brands...
Nice work, however I must make a couple of comments as I’m fortunate to own a genuine 1957 Deluxe, a 1956 low power Twin and two high power Twins from ‘57 and ‘59. Along with Silvertones, Selmers, Voxes and about 50 vintage guitars from the golden era. You really should involve me in some of these things!
Firstly the 5E3 came stock with a Jensen P12R driver which I don’t care for too much. It saturates a bit too early.
For the past 20 years I’ve been a Jensen artist and been using a reissue P12N but I fancied something different. I have a 1960 P12Q that didn’t quite get there. I wanted a bit cleaner headroom and more bass, so I settled on a 1958 12” Magnavox speaker I brought back from LA about 11 years ago. It’s the original P12N, made by the same guy, Peter Jensen. I think I’m happy with that for now.
It’s interesting to note that Neil Young replaced his P12R with a mid 60s C12N, I guess for the same reasons as mine. Not only him, but I had a good talk to Steven Stills who, like Neil, combines a 5E3 with a tweed Twin for their sounds.
So, now my 5E3 has better low end and cleaner volume range. It’s a bit more versatile and a tad louder.
I would have preferred to hear a Strat that was more “period correct” than noiseless pickups and underworld PAFs, maybe a vintage reissue? FWIW Hayden Minett at Bulldog Pickups in Yorkshire makes WONDERFUL vintage spec pickups that he’s given me over the years.
Live, I run my 5E3, combined with a 1964 Princeton non Reverb amp and those two amps together are about as great a sound as you can get. Especially with my stock 1961 and 1963 Strats, a 1954 Junior, 1968 Firebird a choice of five Echoplexes, old Tonebenders, fuzz faces and 1966 Rangemaster treble booster.
Maybe IRs of different speakers would be good to capture a bit more low end that these amps are capable of?
I love this show and available for any communication to help our vintage guitar fraternity. I like to get involved!
Wonder if the TPS guys might be more interested in collaborating with you and your collection
Sounds great, my ears can’t tell them apart
Complete jaw drop when the price was revealed - was expecting £350+
Cheaper than a 55 Tweed amp Kit and you'd still have to fork out for cabinet and speakers
I MUST have one..it WILL be mine
I guessed correctly but actually preferred the green side!
Just blown away!
The pedal sounds phenomenal. Would have liked to hear it used through the front of an amp though.
I’ve got the Revival Trem( it’s glorious)
I think I need this.
a great video might be lee and pete at a vintage music store trying out vintage gear and there thoughts vs modern ....
i guessed right, the amp sounded warmer, surprised i could tell, youtube's sound quality is getting better ...
You can certainly tell the difference in the way that they sounded. The amp did compress more and sounded a bit boxy, whereas the pedal started to sound harsh and unpleasant.
I think the pedal sounds good, but they don't quite react the same. But it's a lot cheaper to buy amp in a box pedals than it is to buy vintage amps. Plus the pedals don't take up nearly as much room.
I got it. Red side is warmer and I'm listening on an imac (not a macbook, the speakers are actually kinda good for what it is). The pedal is still very impressive though.
I had a feeling the red was the amp ,to me the pedal sounds slightly harsh in comparison,but still sounds great.
Origin are s brill company with brill products .. I had 2 comps off them when they were in big boxes ,.. excellent
Could you explain your setup, please?
You heard the amp by its own speaker, and the pedal via the monitors?
And nobody could hear what was the amp and what was the pedal?
I didn't notice a part where they showed the settings on the original amp... what were they Lee? Just got an update 1.4 on the Fender tonemaster pro including a 59 and just with a Klon and the amp and a reverb it sounds pretty similar to this.. not even knowing what the settings are.
Thoroughly impressed
this is incredible - the amp the pedal the energy!!!
Noob here, does anyone know any tutorial how to do lick at 6:08? I noticed Rob also does this lick often. Cheers
One question that always comes when I hear this amp pedal is : Do they sound the same through a solid state or a tube amp? Or do these pedals sound better through a sound card?
Have you guys ever considered doing a Synergy module? Not sure how much engineering overlap there is between a tube preamp platform and these pedals, but I'm sure there would be some interest in having these sounds in that form factor. Or another idea would be an amp in the room pedal that recreates the reactance discussed in the video (UAFX Ox Stomp?).
It wasn’t hard to guess which one was which. The pedal was a lot cleaner with less room/air to start with. It also is less lively.
It does a great job though!
It's going to be interesting to see if the sale of the "feel" changes now that companies can actually match real amps.
Neil young's live album weld, is a good example for that overdriven sound
might be a dumb question but can these be run straight into a cab? What sort of kit would I need to run something like this at home?
This sounds really great. I've heard great things about Origin Effects pedals but haven't tried them yet. I'm curious how this pedal compares with potential alternatives like the Catalinbread Formula 55, and anything else out there that might try to achieve the same result. I have their Formula 5F6 and I love its sound. I'm tempted to save my pennies to get this Origin Effects pedal because I love that sound.
Tonally, I couldn't tell any difference but on the 'red' sound there was a little more ringing like there was more feedback that might be being picked up from other items around the room.
Great Pedal but surely they could hear the sound pumping out of that Combo when the amp was switched in.
Lee that tube pedal doesn’t add anything but your tasty blues lick add something and that is magic. This pedal is f$$&& awesome!!!
Imagine there’s a Halcyon pedal in the actual amp you’re plugging into 😂
Sounds amazing regardless
That was great, much cheaper than buying a Lazy J! Any chance of a demo of the pedal into the front of fairly standard Fender valve amp, perhaps a Hot Rod Deluxe? It would be nice to hear if the Post EQ section does what it says on the tin
What burst is the Les Paul played by the Origin guy?