@@eclectic6938 that isn’t at all the point. The TAS, the even if made by humans, is still theoretically using the best inputs, and yet skips a thing normal, non tas using, humans do.
@@stevenforrest707 eh? The one thorn skip humans do was the easiest of the 2 skips you could do in practice while the razor pogo skip is faster but way more difficult. The theoretical best inputs are always slightly different in real time since not every run will be capable of making the skip, wasting weeks to months of time for one run which MIGHT get to a wr competitive time.
@@Jvggr yes, that’s the point of the original comment. The tas does a numerous amount of a strat but skips the one of that strat that doesn’t require a tas because it isn’t beneficial for the tas to use that method. The original comment was making a joke, and the one I responded to was taking that joke as if it was simply an incorrect statement.
Fun fact: while the current full-run world record is still a 2:01, the PoP comsob (community sum of best, i.e. the combination of all of the fastest individual rooms done by humans) is already sub-2! (1:59.58 to be exact, for now)
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They are for knock back, the longer nail hits the wall, it just doesn't look that way, and at the rate of speed they are going because of TAS assistance, it is hard to actually see the small knock back of it, hope this helps.
Just as the previous coment said, it is also used in the any% TAS and probably any other speedrun that includes moving through the game. Just one doesn't save but a fraction of second, but during all the playthrough it might save a a few seconds.
The completely empty side slashes (those that hit literally nothing) are, as tamijo said, to help make wings jumps faster for reasons I don't quite understand. But if the nail does hit the wall then it's what power angel and zkydo said. Probably a mix of both.
Damage value is the following : Vengeful Spirit + Shaman Stone = 40 Descending Dark + Shaman Stone = 23(dive) + 50(1st wave) + 15(2nd wave) Sharp Shadow (full upgraded nail) + Fragile Strength = 32 Left Kingsmould got : 1 hit of Dive's 1st wave = 50 3 hits of Vengeful Spirit = 40 x 3 = 120 Total Damage = 50 + 120 = 170 Right Kingsmould got : 1 hit of Nail = 32 1 hit of Sharp Shadow = 32 3 hits of Vengeful Spirit = 40 x 3 = 120 Total Total Damage = 32 + 32 + 120 = 184 Health of Kingsmould = 170 Wow.
@@86fernandes86 I'm pretty sure that that's the normal crystal dash charge speed if done optimally, and from memory the sawblades are moving as fast as they're meant to
0:50 damn I have never seen a nail swing hit that meaty* in hk (AKA swing hit the small double sawblades during its later active frames rather than the first active frame)
Oh my gosh that was so awesome! I can see the dedication and time you put into it. You knew exactly what you were doing. Probably the most awesome thing I have ever seen on a hollow knight speedrun challenge. Serious respect. It's an honor to subscribe to you.
@@realtag846 I get why they said that, though - referring to it as a "speedrun challenge" seems like something you'd say if you didn't know this was a TAS. something about the wording
Wow, this TAS guy is really good. Wonder how he'll fair in Silksong. Jokes aside, this is incredible!! I'm attempting the PoP but still haven't made it out of the first area. Hope that I'll eventually beat it. Edit: Just wanted to tell y'all that I've since beaten the PoP :) Cheers!
I was seeing a regular hitless run in around 4 minutes before and I thought that was wizardry... Well, if that is wizardry than this is some straight up black magic fuckery right here :')
Llevo unas 3 o 4 horas y no lo he terminado ver este video destruye mi corazon y mis manos jajajajajajajaj lo he visto como 5 veces de lo increible que es 100/10
Cyclone slash requires you to dash over the blades near the bottom before the first checkpoint, and the TAS doesn't have dash available at that point, so they pogo and skip landing on the platform which is just as good. Idk what you mean about the downdash, is there normally one?
@@snek_47 What, I took 8 hours. Played it again 2 years later with 3 hours, repeated it with 1 hour, repeated it with around 45 minutes and 45 minutes again, although my progress slowed down much because I was getting tired, in my last one I completed the last obstacle path the second try. You are both so fast, but 20-25 minutes if real is just unbelievably fast to me first try,
it's a glitch commonly used in any% all glitches, where you start in godmode, then do some actions I don't know how to explain and boom, here you are with a new gamefile in normal mode but with everything you would have in godmode, so all masks, all fragments, all charms and all charm notches
so just a question. for us normies is the easiest way to do this just to leave a dream gate to tp on every checkpoint so you don't have to restart from the bench every time?
What is the charm build? It looks like too many charms for the slots, even with overcharm. Perhaps some speedrunning tech removes the need for some of them. I saw shamen stone, sharp shadow, and at least mark of pride for nail range for sure, but the others I'm not so sure about (quickslash, longnail, dashmaster)
iirc the charm build for pop runs is sharp shadow, shaman stone, dashmaster, mark of pride and (i think) longnail but im not 100% sure on that. quickslash isnt rly needed for this because you can do turnarounds to cancel the nail animation to do a another nail hit quicker
White Lady: come home
Pale King: can't, too many sawblades.
White Lady: my parents aren't home
Pale King:
This comment is very funny 10/10
@@bobebobo2643 needs to get to 69 likes
@@TotalitarianDemocrat I FUCKIN DID IT
@@TotalitarianDemocrat like number 100 xd
Under appreciated comment of the century
I love that the tas does like 18 thorn jumps but skips the one humans do
it doesnt want to appear human
A tas is done by a person my man. tas just means tool assisted speedrun
@@eclectic6938 that isn’t at all the point. The TAS, the even if made by humans, is still theoretically using the best inputs, and yet skips a thing normal, non tas using, humans do.
@@stevenforrest707 eh? The one thorn skip humans do was the easiest of the 2 skips you could do in practice while the razor pogo skip is faster but way more difficult.
The theoretical best inputs are always slightly different in real time since not every run will be capable of making the skip, wasting weeks to months of time for one run which MIGHT get to a wr competitive time.
@@Jvggr yes, that’s the point of the original comment. The tas does a numerous amount of a strat but skips the one of that strat that doesn’t require a tas because it isn’t beneficial for the tas to use that method. The original comment was making a joke, and the one I responded to was taking that joke as if it was simply an incorrect statement.
Believe it or not, this is how Zote's first trie at PoP went.
My eyes: I’ve learnt it
My brain: I’ve learnt it
My hand: No you are not!!
*have
See, PoP isn't even that difficult
Yeah, I don't see what all the fuss is about
The TAS actually makes it look more difficult to me lol
@@beri4138 the tas uses several skips, some inhumane. The wall climbing is also optimized to be even faster
What is the tas?
@@JoelGDDSweden tas-tool assisted speedrun. Someone program bot to play game as good as it can
To think that this is only 10 seconds better than world record is crazy to me
PoP is only 4 rooms...
@@vortigon2519 ok whats your point lol
10 seconds is quite a fucking bit..
Now only 7 seconds
@@Notabl3 but still did you _see_ how precise it was
Player's skill in this game is ridiculous
Thats awesome! My 6 hours of suffering got converted into a 2 minutes video :D
That’s rough buddy
Skill issue
I'm hitting the 6 hours mark 😭 I'm in the final segment
@@heysamesamdid you win?
@@guffthebir72 oh yeah! That last segment took me probably 4 hours to time it right 😆 I'd say very impressive.
Seeing this makes me think that sub 2 is humanly possible.
Fun fact: while the current full-run world record is still a 2:01, the PoP comsob (community sum of best, i.e. the combination of all of the fastest individual rooms done by humans) is already sub-2! (1:59.58 to be exact, for now)
@@Icefire3339 now we are just waiting for Yihou to pull it off
@@Icefire3339 or scyh to gain inspiration from this tas hahaha
@@Pyrodeity42 It has happened
@@__nog642 wait whattt link pls
1:06 i didn’t think the thorn jump could get harder
Thorn skip skip
@@alexalex7785 TSS?
why is this Super Mario Odyssey now?
peaks
@@alexalex7785 The current world record has now implemented this
Using nail knockback in wall climbing sections is so smart
I don't know what "NMG" stands for so in my head I read it as "Nightmare Ming Grimm"
No major glitch
Lmaooo me too 🤣
I read it as "night mare grim" and thought it would fight an nkg in the final room
Path of pain without the pain
*P A T H*
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Here from Fireb0rn's PoP God gamer vid. I wonder if that TAS thornskip is humanly possible
It is possible, humans have done the room with it
SIR you have created the Path of Pain WITHOUT THE PAIN!
Path
Path of
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White palace
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What's the reason for the empty side slashes throughout the TAS? Do they manipulate RNG, or am I missing something :P
They make wings jumps faster
They are for knock back, the longer nail hits the wall, it just doesn't look that way, and at the rate of speed they are going because of TAS assistance, it is hard to actually see the small knock back of it, hope this helps.
Just as the previous coment said, it is also used in the any% TAS and probably any other speedrun that includes moving through the game. Just one doesn't save but a fraction of second, but during all the playthrough it might save a a few seconds.
The completely empty side slashes (those that hit literally nothing) are, as tamijo said, to help make wings jumps faster for reasons I don't quite understand. But if the nail does hit the wall then it's what power angel and zkydo said. Probably a mix of both.
@@alexion3007 and i assume a little of rng manipulation as well
Just out of curiosity: is the statue hit at 0:31 just for fun or do you gain backwards momentum from that hit?
that means nothing lol
to gain souls.
@@cuberknight wait no is it for soul to be able to kill the enemy’s at the end? Wait it is cos it had just enough
@@moltengears7483still doesn't matter, you can enter path of pain with as much soul as you want
Meme move
Damage value is the following :
Vengeful Spirit + Shaman Stone = 40
Descending Dark + Shaman Stone = 23(dive) + 50(1st wave) + 15(2nd wave)
Sharp Shadow (full upgraded nail) + Fragile Strength = 32
Left Kingsmould got :
1 hit of Dive's 1st wave = 50
3 hits of Vengeful Spirit = 40 x 3 = 120
Total Damage = 50 + 120 = 170
Right Kingsmould got :
1 hit of Nail = 32
1 hit of Sharp Shadow = 32
3 hits of Vengeful Spirit = 40 x 3 = 120
Total Total Damage = 32 + 32 + 120 = 184
Health of Kingsmould = 170
Wow.
That's some maths
It's on a earlier patch cuz on the current one they have more hp
Its so fast that the footage seems sped up lol! Great work. :D
But it is. Did you see how long it took to charge the crystal dash? And the blade speeds?
@@86fernandes86 I'm pretty sure that that's the normal crystal dash charge speed if done optimally, and from memory the sawblades are moving as fast as they're meant to
@@heyoyo10gaming4 I don't know... I had done the path of pain very recently, so I was pretty used to the timing when I watched the video
@@86fernandes86 So have I, and it's moreso the crystal dash that tells me that the speed is right
@@86fernandes86 this is TAS everything is done pixel perfect
this took me 2 and a half hours yesterday I clearly need to train harder
It took me 6
same here first try was 6 hours but after that it gets lesser and lesser @@oOmooseOo65
dayum, who let sonic play hollow knight
1:11 No clue how you didn't get hit by that last wingmould. Their hitboxes always felt quite large to me.
the knight's hitbox is absurdly small
0:50 damn I have never seen a nail swing hit that meaty* in hk
(AKA swing hit the small double sawblades during its later active frames rather than the first active frame)
Oh my gosh that was so awesome! I can see the dedication and time you put into it. You knew exactly what you were doing.
Probably the most awesome thing I have ever seen on a hollow knight speedrun challenge.
Serious respect. It's an honor to subscribe to you.
Forgive me if I didn’t understand the sarcasm, but you know what TAS (tool assisted speedrun) means right?
@@moistcrusader2026 you still need time, effort and skill to make a TAS
@@realtag846 mas ele parece ter dito como se o TAS fosse uma pessoa jogando
@@realtag846 I get why they said that, though - referring to it as a "speedrun challenge" seems like something you'd say if you didn't know this was a TAS. something about the wording
@@flamingspinachwhat a TAS?
yes. logic: godseeker thingy in whitepalace
pantheon 6
@@rraaiin absolutely!
I didn't know you could stand still on the edge of those walls with thorns on it.
It's practically pixel perfect
I love the thorns skip skip
Wow, this TAS guy is really good. Wonder how he'll fair in Silksong. Jokes aside, this is incredible!! I'm attempting the PoP but still haven't made it out of the first area. Hope that I'll eventually beat it.
Edit: Just wanted to tell y'all that I've since beaten the PoP :)
Cheers!
Was looking for this comment
damn, path of pain with sharp shadow looks insane
Dude forgot he's got legs, Mastering those wings pretty damn well
this it the most impressive speedrun i've ever watch and intense
its not a actual person
@@thetiredwaflle525 ik but it still satisfying to watch
@@thetiredwaflle525 i actually kinda like loooking at tas speedruns and their frame perfect runs its hella good dude
@@NickenChugget I watch them to see what might be possible in a real run to see how a new tas could improve runs
@@thetiredwaflle525wait what?
And he comes with another great tas
Pog to this guy
Pale King: So I think this one is the Pure vessel
My eyes can't comprehend...
Good job doing this though!
me looking for absolute radiance lore:
Toy chica
0:18 if you can hug the thorns any tighter you may be able to start a c dash as you slide down the wall, rather than having to jump back up.
Bro what. I am proud of beating hornet how am I supposed to do this
Took me and my brother 3 hours of combined effort to get through this area the other day
I was seeing a regular hitless run in around 4 minutes before and I thought that was wizardry...
Well, if that is wizardry than this is some straight up black magic fuckery right here :')
when your homies tell you to come over and watch a movie :
Youre definitely not human
it's a tas, not a human playing
Instawings isnt real, it can’t hurt you.
Instawings:
So this is how it looks like to have a gaming chair.
theoretically it could be faster with minor adjustments but this is insane
damn this path of pain tutorial sure is hard to follow
Nothing compared with Cuphead's tutorial
I think the second part of room one you can shrogo instead of c dash.
Other than that this is one of the best TASes out there.
Omg nice work 👑
Silk song will come out when a human does this
That’s actually crazy
that was gorgeously done
Llevo unas 3 o 4 horas y no lo he terminado ver este video destruye mi corazon y mis manos jajajajajajajaj lo he visto como 5 veces de lo increible que es 100/10
"Boss runbacks in Elden Ring are the worst"
Hollow Knight: "Wanna bet?"
Pretty good run imo. We all gotta start somewhere
Lore accurate path of pain
how come you chose not to implement the downdash in room 1 or the cyclone slash to the first checkpoint?
Cyclone slash requires you to dash over the blades near the bottom before the first checkpoint, and the TAS doesn't have dash available at that point, so they pogo and skip landing on the platform which is just as good. Idk what you mean about the downdash, is there normally one?
@@Eszterni no but dashmaster, but now that i rewatch it it doesn't seem to show any signs of dashmaster so...
The sadists built this as a sign of friendship with the masohists. In The Path of Pain, both groups benefit 😂
COOOOL
Path of pain but the knight is on high amounts of crack:
what i did in 20-25 minutes of gameplay in path of pain,he did in 52seconds :skull:
20-25 minutes? On your first try?
@@snek_47 yep
@@franciscafelix4497 damn that’s really fast for your first time. I took almost 2 hours lmao
@@snek_47 What, I took 8 hours. Played it again 2 years later with 3 hours, repeated it with 1 hour, repeated it with around 45 minutes and 45 minutes again, although my progress slowed down much because I was getting tired, in my last one I completed the last obstacle path the second try. You are both so fast, but 20-25 minutes if real is just unbelievably fast to me first try,
pov: you blinked and the tas was in the next room
Wow you are incredibly good
I was watching this after my playtrhough and was thinking “OMG, OMG...“ “this man is a god!“
Nive job and a lot of respect
it's a tas
i reufse to believe bro is not human
It’s not a human it’s a TAS
Pov: you were named Jack
pov: when your running back to your room after turning off the lights.
Though my playback speed was on 2X. Turns out it was on normal
I realised that you didn't use thorn skip in r3 does it actusly lose time cocompared to the strat used?
yeah cause you have to wait for it to land which cost some time
The first few wings jumps lost me
Even the Player Camera dont have enough time to follow you
Can’t wait to see stool get this time.
Damn, blinked, guess I'll have to restart!
Dafuq just happened I have never been more offended and impressed by something
The definition of "Wow that looks actually easy probably could do that too..."
Ah I see what I'm doing wrong not going fast enough
Silksong got to realease
yay he back!!1!
I’m sorry, I blinked
This TAS guy is pretty good at the game huh
For elden ring fans who don't plays hollow knight, that's harder than consort radhan
we need to release silksong this shit is driving us crazy
I’m questioning how they are in godseeker mode
it's a glitch commonly used in any% all glitches, where you start in godmode, then do some actions I don't know how to explain and boom, here you are with a new gamefile in normal mode but with everything you would have in godmode, so all masks, all fragments, all charms and all charm notches
Path of satisfaction.
so just a question. for us normies is the easiest way to do this just to leave a dream gate to tp on every checkpoint so you don't have to restart from the bench every time?
What is the charm build? It looks like too many charms for the slots, even with overcharm. Perhaps some speedrunning tech removes the need for some of them. I saw shamen stone, sharp shadow, and at least mark of pride for nail range for sure, but the others I'm not so sure about (quickslash, longnail, dashmaster)
dashmaster for sure, he dashed downwards
iirc the charm build for pop runs is sharp shadow, shaman stone, dashmaster, mark of pride and (i think) longnail but im not 100% sure on that. quickslash isnt rly needed for this because you can do turnarounds to cancel the nail animation to do a another nail hit quicker
P E R F E C T I O N .
yOu fOrGor tHe sOuL tOtEmS
How...
Seriusly...
HOW?!
I've already seen a tas like this, even the movement before get in, it's just a reupload of the one on billibilli?
i have a question while wall jumping what the point in slashing while doing the jump?
cancels the walljump animation so you can turn back faster
I refuse to see the people who designed this level as human beings in so many levels and ways
This guy did the fastest PoP speedrun with nail of pride (long nail+mark of pride), sharp shadow AND on GODHOME mode. This guy is a fucking menace
Mega man x3 remaster looks good so far
Okay but.. godseeker mode.
я, которая прошла это за 7 часов 4 раза, так как не могла убить протвника в конце: ОГО
Its almost looks like if he's flying lol
Pov that quiet kid that bringed gamepad:
celeste player be like doing POP for the first time
Speedrunning the path of pain but im not a speedrunner:
This isnt the path of pain, its the path of mild inconvenience...
bro forgets to struggle:)
and i wasted 6 hours.. i feel bad.. send an ambulance
Oh the pain