I strongly disagree with “if you are a better player, you win regardless of the breaks your opponent takes” @5:40. It’s obvious that a big part of Loh’s strategy and shot selection are to pressure Alex’s stamina. Taking unruly breaks directly gives Alex an unfair advantage and ruins big part of Loh game plan. Think of boxing, should you be able to take more time to break because your opponent tired you out? Additionally, it’s widely studied and recognized that psychological momentum(PM) in sports is a big thing. Taking breaks often used as a tactic to break your opponent’s flow or winning streak(PM) for example line judge challenges and court wiping. So a better player can definitely lose if his opponent can take illegal pauses to break the better player’s momentum and to recover from his stamina targeting strategy. Trying to link mental instability and gesture after a bad shot is also a stretch. Being comfortable expressing however the heck you feel within appropriate boundaries, that’s mental stability.
But nothing against Alex though, It comes down to “don't hate the player hate the game”. Alex knows the rules and using / bending it to his advantage and the game allows for that.
Look back to Peter Gade v Lin Dan 2003 - 2004, Lin Dan relied on his physicality to retrieve and attack, overcome PG's wealth of experience. But to do so, he also took lots of breaks to sustain his stamina playing that kind of a physically rigorous playstyle. I'd attribute part of PG's loss to his lack of mental fortitude. Later on in the years, PG has stopped complaining to the referee for LD's "delay tactics" though - perhaps he realized that its better to be cool about it than disturbed? You can't complain about the mental game aspect of the game. It is part and parcel of sport, just like how taunting is in some contact sports. It is also why we celebrate champions so much, for their exemplary mental fortitude.
Badminton is not just a physical game. It's also a mental one, and a strategic one. Taking breaks to disrupt your opponent is nothing new. Go watch Taufik and Lin Dan's games from over a decade ago, they knew every trick in the book and knew exactly when to call for disruptions. A complete player is one who excels in the whole package - physical, mental, strategy. If Loh is losing because he lacks in strategy and taking advantage of the grey areas of the sport, then he isn't the better overall player. At most, you can say he is the better player in the physical department.
Was actually expecting Loh to win this. But regardless, he did better in this tournament compared to the previous ones. Hope he can maintain it on the next tournaments and end his title drought.
That was a very concise and insightful breakdown. Personally, I was quite surprised that Loh did not take this game but the reasons provided do make sense. Thanks for the upload!
To my humble opinion, that's a very interesting and convincing breakdown of both strategies. It's remarkable that Lannier can keep up with this enormous amount of energy for so long: Loh really forces him to move a lot, and fast. Maybe Loh himself was exhausted, and therefore lacked the explosiveness to kill at the net.
i think sometimes its ok to let out your emotion and fustration because if you bottle it all in sometimes its even worse for you. Most of the times when players scream/celebrate after a point its to let out their inner pressure.
Right? In this video, trying to link mental instability and gesture after a bad shot is a stretch. Being comfortable expressing however the heck you feel within appropriate boundaries, that’s mental stability.
Here we go again. Another european player getting good, means another European player badminton fans can (unjustifiably) hate. Happened with marin, viggo, now alex
Tbh if alex didnt take that breaks he would be done the new LKY game style is too aggressive and great especially on his smashes, he has improved alot from before
Now there's a big contradiction in what you said in my opinion, you stated that there's nothing to complain about if a player is delaying, as both players have the same rest, and the better player will win anyway. You forget that it isn't necessarily about rest its more about disrupting rhythm. This is why we complain about players who delay, delaying is against the rules and using it the way players like Marin often did or how Alex did here, is a sneaky illegitimate tactic to disrupt the opponent which has nothing to do with badminton skill but can work effectively. Such tactics are against the rules and unsportsmanlike.
One glaring miss in the explanation. The wind drift from near to far side. Those who saw the tournament know that every player played an almost similar game based on the side they were playing.
im tired of badminton players always playing dirty...while loh still gets the same rest as lanier, my respect and support for lanier is just greatly diminished, why cant you just play the game fair and square?
Why do you assume that Lanier slowed down the game on purpose as opposed to him being genuinely tired and trying to get as much rest between points? In any case he got punished 1 point for that and the opponent gets the same amount of rest so nothing to complain about.
@@dantonkull6491 It doesnt matter if he is genuinely tired or not. If every player who is tired starts to get rest at his own will in between the points then the badminton match will never end, by your logic that is. And whether the opponent gets the same amount of time or not still doesnt matter, because the break is on the rhythm of alex lanier here, while the opponent wants to play, but is delayed because of tactics and dirty play which affects the mental state of opponent. Only those who play badminton, know how important it is go with the flow of the match especially for the one who is controlling the match at the moment or the one who has just won a point and is about to serve. Lanier gets away many a times without a strict scolding by the umpires. The rules need to enforced strictly about continous game.
@@Naoki-ge5xp Again, why do you say it's tactics and dirty play if it only happened in this game in a very long match? I assume It's not a normal behaviour from him but time will tell.
Well, maybe LKY made Alex run on purpose to make him fatigued. I would also be upset about him taking breaks and break my strategy if I were LKY. Ok the other hand, there is a lot of pressure on Lanier, because he is France‘s top player at the moment. He really wanted to win, that’s what made him play a little dirty
@@dantonkull6491Well, he's Alex so he got a no. Had it been a "star" like Viktor or Shi, they probably would've been allowed a drink. Game is game, you play with all your weapons
while watching this game, i defenitly also felt that LKY played a bit too defensive overall. while he did play some great rallies, its a bit sad not to see him dominate through his attack like he used to. I feel like a few more powerfull jump smashes following a deadly net spin would have helped LKY have more confidence, therefore beating Lanier.
Sometimes I think that LKY, like Lin Dan, has purposely slowed down his game for a longer career life span. Playing speed and power sustains you a lot of injury. He needs to learn to be more intelligent, using his burst speed to capitalize on opportunities more effectively and consistently. And perhaps he is forcing himself to play at such a pace to do so. We'll see at the next Olympics perhaps?
Male version of An Se Young in the making... This is the kind of resilience and strong mental game that An Se Young showed in her early days when she first beat Li Xuerui in Australian Open finals and then went on to beat the legendary Tai Tzu Ying in the Sudirman cup! Very exciting to see such an awesome talent pop up in Men's singles!
Loh has good technique overall , if you look at his play style, its almost cocky, he has a very strong physique so he moves in a way where he doesnt even try to anticipate it with his body, all his movements are quick jerks and not fluid , he almost looks like jeremy lin in term of basketball, has the ability to finish, had a few good games/season, but is too much in his head and not playing fluidly
lky is sliding down hill slowly...he had a chance to move to the top last few years but choose to be freindly..nice to opponent and enjoy the moment mode. couldnt find his groove. he plays well..but its like training...alot of rallies but cannot get points. of cos its nice to see a singaporean more often in the circuit...but fact is fact
French players like to delay time when they lose points or are tired.. Popov VS Axelsen EU championship and now this game.. judges should be more strict!
Hahaha.....my take. Try without a coach and see if you improve overtime. Reflect back to earlier years without a coach and playing alone, how did you do it? Now you know the "secret" to winning. Not every time as there will be situation that you are caught off-guard so do your opponents. But you and only you know what happen, so the learning process continue.
Loh is a good player but playing a that level with his wrong way of grip/hold the racket it determine a lot of miss shots. And I believe that he will never going to improve that thing.
Objection 🙋🏻. It was one of the worse matches ever. The shot placement and inconsistency of these new players make the game difficult to watch. I find myself having to resort to watching games in the past just to get my badminton fill now.
same 😂 maybe it's just nostalgia tho cuz i see some of those "old school top quality shots" in top players like Viktor Ax. and the like. but i get it, I despise seeing LKY's error rate or kodais choppy flow in the court lol
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I strongly disagree with “if you are a better player, you win regardless of the breaks your opponent takes” @5:40. It’s obvious that a big part of Loh’s strategy and shot selection are to pressure Alex’s stamina. Taking unruly breaks directly gives Alex an unfair advantage and ruins big part of Loh game plan. Think of boxing, should you be able to take more time to break because your opponent tired you out? Additionally, it’s widely studied and recognized that psychological momentum(PM) in sports is a big thing. Taking breaks often used as a tactic to break your opponent’s flow or winning streak(PM) for example line judge challenges and court wiping. So a better player can definitely lose if his opponent can take illegal pauses to break the better player’s momentum and to recover from his stamina targeting strategy.
Trying to link mental instability and gesture after a bad shot is also a stretch. Being comfortable expressing however the heck you feel within appropriate boundaries, that’s mental stability.
But nothing against Alex though, It comes down to “don't hate the player hate the game”. Alex knows the rules and using / bending it to his advantage and the game allows for that.
Look back to Peter Gade v Lin Dan 2003 - 2004, Lin Dan relied on his physicality to retrieve and attack, overcome PG's wealth of experience. But to do so, he also took lots of breaks to sustain his stamina playing that kind of a physically rigorous playstyle. I'd attribute part of PG's loss to his lack of mental fortitude. Later on in the years, PG has stopped complaining to the referee for LD's "delay tactics" though - perhaps he realized that its better to be cool about it than disturbed?
You can't complain about the mental game aspect of the game. It is part and parcel of sport, just like how taunting is in some contact sports. It is also why we celebrate champions so much, for their exemplary mental fortitude.
Badminton is not just a physical game. It's also a mental one, and a strategic one. Taking breaks to disrupt your opponent is nothing new. Go watch Taufik and Lin Dan's games from over a decade ago, they knew every trick in the book and knew exactly when to call for disruptions. A complete player is one who excels in the whole package - physical, mental, strategy. If Loh is losing because he lacks in strategy and taking advantage of the grey areas of the sport, then he isn't the better overall player. At most, you can say he is the better player in the physical department.
Was actually expecting Loh to win this. But regardless, he did better in this tournament compared to the previous ones. Hope he can maintain it on the next tournaments and end his title drought.
Appreciate the info for countering deceptions! ❤😂
That was a very concise and insightful breakdown. Personally, I was quite surprised that Loh did not take this game but the reasons provided do make sense. Thanks for the upload!
To my humble opinion, that's a very interesting and convincing breakdown of both strategies. It's remarkable that Lannier can keep up with this enormous amount of energy for so long: Loh really forces him to move a lot, and fast. Maybe Loh himself was exhausted, and therefore lacked the explosiveness to kill at the net.
i think sometimes its ok to let out your emotion and fustration because if you bottle it all in sometimes its even worse for you. Most of the times when players scream/celebrate after a point its to let out their inner pressure.
Just don't scream like Karmarin, though. 😂
Right? In this video, trying to link mental instability and gesture after a bad shot is a stretch. Being comfortable expressing however the heck you feel within appropriate boundaries, that’s mental stability.
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I play better when I let out my emotions and frustration, but I don't scream like Karmarina 😅
Love that channel
Here we go again. Another european player getting good, means another European player badminton fans can (unjustifiably) hate. Happened with marin, viggo, now alex
Woah. I love this channel! 🥰
Can you post how antonsen recovered from a downfall
Tbh if alex didnt take that breaks he would be done the new LKY game style is too aggressive and great especially on his smashes, he has improved alot from before
Loh definitely upped his game I guess
One of the few times it would have been nice to see a Singaporean win...
Wish you have 100k sub soon.
Now there's a big contradiction in what you said in my opinion, you stated that there's nothing to complain about if a player is delaying, as both players have the same rest, and the better player will win anyway. You forget that it isn't necessarily about rest its more about disrupting rhythm. This is why we complain about players who delay, delaying is against the rules and using it the way players like Marin often did or how Alex did here, is a sneaky illegitimate tactic to disrupt the opponent which has nothing to do with badminton skill but can work effectively. Such tactics are against the rules and unsportsmanlike.
I love to see more of Alex an up coming badminton player.
One glaring miss in the explanation. The wind drift from near to far side. Those who saw the tournament know that every player played an almost similar game based on the side they were playing.
im tired of badminton players always playing dirty...while loh still gets the same rest as lanier, my respect and support for lanier is just greatly diminished, why cant you just play the game fair and square?
Why do you assume that Lanier slowed down the game on purpose as opposed to him being genuinely tired and trying to get as much rest between points? In any case he got punished 1 point for that and the opponent gets the same amount of rest so nothing to complain about.
@@dantonkull6491 It doesnt matter if he is genuinely tired or not. If every player who is tired starts to get rest at his own will in between the points then the badminton match will never end, by your logic that is. And whether the opponent gets the same amount of time or not still doesnt matter, because the break is on the rhythm of alex lanier here, while the opponent wants to play, but is delayed because of tactics and dirty play which affects the mental state of opponent. Only those who play badminton, know how important it is go with the flow of the match especially for the one who is controlling the match at the moment or the one who has just won a point and is about to serve. Lanier gets away many a times without a strict scolding by the umpires. The rules need to enforced strictly about continous game.
@@Naoki-ge5xp Again, why do you say it's tactics and dirty play if it only happened in this game in a very long match? I assume It's not a normal behaviour from him but time will tell.
Well, maybe LKY made Alex run on purpose to make him fatigued. I would also be upset about him taking breaks and break my strategy if I were LKY. Ok the other hand, there is a lot of pressure on Lanier, because he is France‘s top player at the moment. He really wanted to win, that’s what made him play a little dirty
@@dantonkull6491Well, he's Alex so he got a no. Had it been a "star" like Viktor or Shi, they probably would've been allowed a drink. Game is game, you play with all your weapons
while watching this game, i defenitly also felt that LKY played a bit too defensive overall. while he did play some great rallies, its a bit sad not to see him dominate through his attack like he used to. I feel like a few more powerfull jump smashes following a deadly net spin would have helped LKY have more confidence, therefore beating Lanier.
Sometimes I think that LKY, like Lin Dan, has purposely slowed down his game for a longer career life span. Playing speed and power sustains you a lot of injury. He needs to learn to be more intelligent, using his burst speed to capitalize on opportunities more effectively and consistently. And perhaps he is forcing himself to play at such a pace to do so. We'll see at the next Olympics perhaps?
Male version of An Se Young in the making... This is the kind of resilience and strong mental game that An Se Young showed in her early days when she first beat Li Xuerui in Australian Open finals and then went on to beat the legendary Tai Tzu Ying in the Sudirman cup! Very exciting to see such an awesome talent pop up in Men's singles!
I saw it live. I would have loved to see Loh win this game...!
what are some winning strategies so that it won't lead into a stalemate?
Pls make a video about Antonsen...
nice song
is Loh's coach new ? He is a completely different player in the recent games.
last part lowkey funny
can anybody help me find where to watch these matches because on official channel of BWF its been removed or not been uploaded ...
Get a free VPN and try again, setting it in like USA. It's blocked in Europe I think (and maybe elsewhere). BWF TV has pretty much all the matches.
Loh has good technique overall , if you look at his play style, its almost cocky, he has a very strong physique so he moves in a way where he doesnt even try to anticipate it with his body, all his movements are quick jerks and not fluid , he almost looks like jeremy lin in term of basketball, has the ability to finish, had a few good games/season, but is too much in his head and not playing fluidly
How to use BWF video without getting copyright. Me too want to do such videos.
What made 2008 Lin Dan unbeatable
lky is sliding down hill slowly...he had a chance to move to the top last few years but choose to be freindly..nice to opponent and enjoy the moment mode. couldnt find his groove. he plays well..but its like training...alot of rallies but cannot get points. of cos its nice to see a singaporean more often in the circuit...but fact is fact
This was one of my favorite matches in a long time. Lanier will go to the top of the world ranking sooner than we think mark my words!
Can you make a video on how to enter the zone or what is called flow state
French players like to delay time when they lose points or are tired.. Popov VS Axelsen EU championship and now this game.. judges should be more strict!
Popov plays doubles with his brother also though, its understandable that he is very tired and needs more break in-between the rallies.
why is the coach not speaking french to alex?
@@ericlwm1989 iirc, the coach can't speak French since he's Lithuanian.
LKY just has too many errors imo. he's good/fast but the shot quality and the error rate? oof
Hahaha.....my take. Try without a coach and see if you improve overtime. Reflect back to earlier years without a coach and playing alone, how did you do it? Now you know the "secret" to winning. Not every time as there will be situation that you are caught off-guard so do your opponents. But you and only you know what happen, so the learning process continue.
Loh is a good player but playing a that level with his wrong way of grip/hold the racket it determine a lot of miss shots. And I believe that he will never going to improve that thing.
Yet another badminton youtube channel where the creators simply hire a soul-less VO actor to read their script. SMH
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French have a history of bending the rules to their own ends.
white people you mean.
Lol what are you even talking about
That's what Umpires are there for ...
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Objection 🙋🏻. It was one of the worse matches ever. The shot placement and inconsistency of these new players make the game difficult to watch. I find myself having to resort to watching games in the past just to get my badminton fill now.
would like to see you do better fatso
same 😂 maybe it's just nostalgia tho cuz i see some of those "old school top quality shots" in top players like Viktor Ax. and the like.
but i get it, I despise seeing LKY's error rate or kodais choppy flow in the court lol
You are delusional
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But last to get laid
Thank you 😊It’s very helpful to growing Bwf players like me 😊🏸🤝