Here are show notes as well as full transcript of this conversation: The transcript is now uploaded and will scroll with the sound at bottom of screen if you turn on 'Closed Captioning' (CC). Also, in the Settings icon (gear-looking icon), please make sure you choose the option "English" (not "auto-generated" ). PDF of Transcript: tinyurl.com/3a8kszjj Show notes: www.thegreatsimplification.com/episode/34-kiril-sokoloff
Kiril is among the most intelligent, successful, and evolved human beings that I have ever heard address the current predicament of humankind. His level of concern as to what comes next leads him to move to a small island nation go off-grid, become self-sufficient, and prepare for barter. He is also the guy who bought fuel oil and gasoline right before the first oil crisis whileliving in Westchester County (just outsideof NYC). This comes from a man whose greatest interest in life is to build human consciousness. He's not running away from his responsibilities, he's recognizing the inevitability of what's about to happen and taking a rational and ethical approach. That's sobering.
Wonderful discussion, Nate! I have just become a certified regenerative soil advocate and my conversations with local farmers and consumers are quite frustrating. Every time I listen to your podcast, I feel more hopeful that we have a chance, because people like you are willing to be the voice of reasoning. I look forward to the next time! Thank you for the work you are doing.
Hi Nate, thank you for another very good podcast with Kiril Sokoloff. I don’t know if it is possible to improve the audio, Kiril’s audio is extremely difficult to hear I’m missing words and will have to listen a couple of times to get all that he is saying. Thank you,
Mind expanding (and heart expanding) episode! It is well worth the fuzzy audio just to listen to Kiril Sokoloff’s final reflections. Nate, I so hope that your powerful connections can lead you to future guest appearances on Joe Rogan’s and maybe Chris Martenson’s platforms. Etc. Maybe Robert Wright (nonzero). I am thankful that education is your primary endeavor. To reach across (above, maybe) our fractured partisan, siloed, Balkanized, tribal boundaries has never been more important. I’m in awe of your communication skills and your depth and breadth of knowledge. Keep expanding that breadth and depth .. I wish you all the best as your audience and influence expand.
I’d love to ask Mr. Sokoloff how he balances his Buddhist beliefs and his embrace of capitalism. At times he seemed to contradict himself - I know that his world view is balanced so I want to dig deeper into how he balances his spiritual awareness with his financial/capitalistic awareness. Or more deeply, how the world could embrace “Buddhist Capitalism” if that’s such a thing. Is this what the age of Aquarius is about?
Uh? Buddha philosophy was lower your expectations and desires to zero. I'm pretty sure capitalism, an economic organization of global society and resources fueled by cupidity of individual's, is like the opposite of what Buddha believed.. Buddha wouldn't care about capitalism or the collapse of civilization due to peak oil or climate change or anything else. He literally preached have absolutely no fucks to give about absolutely anything
@@joelmichalski7429 Well, I guess we need to listen to him selectively...many things he said in the first half makes logical sense until the age of Aquarius, lol
"(Sokoloff) was one of the first “supply-siders”, joining Jack Kemp and others in 1977 to spread the word that cutting tax rates and de-regulating the U.S. economy, would cause an economic boom in the U.S. Kemp’s “supply-side” cut in tax rates was the basis for the Reagan Revolution..." That's him touting his own resume. About as "part of the problem" as you can get.
i was also struggling with this point. I want to hear him talk about his supply side evangelism versus his Buddhist philosophy. How does he balance these world views?
Also when he says "I'm a capitalist ... we should follow Buddhism's interconnectedness". Capitalism is an imperial mode of living that commodifies all spheres of life for the sake of capital accumulation. How that's supposed to respect interconnectedness? Capitalism and its contradiction by design is the main engine of the catastrophe we are dealing now and with no matter regulation can become sustainable.
Just wanted to say a huge thank you Nate for all that you are doing. It means a lot to me to hear how you are communicating this stuff. I share all the same concerns and feel like I have found a platform that speaks the same language. Here in NZ its quite hard to be holding this as there are so few here who want this conversation . I feel like the harbinger of doom. I try and tell as many people as possible who are receptive to check out your videos and podcasts so that as many as possible will be informed and hopefully create more movement.
Beautiful Discussion Nate with a wise Soul in Kiril. We stand as a species at a cross roads. TRUST is the key. This is a small poem to share please, as we head in to using the Dramas we created to be the portal of AWAKENING. LOSE/FAIL to lose to fail to muck it up is what its all about for contained within are truths revealed its where you find what counts. you are here to learn compassion and its soul mate Empathy to identify the Drama that you will cease to be.... by JAWelsh cheers
29:00 Nate asks this "erudite macro thinker" what he thinks of resource rationing by means OTHER than price (who can afford the resource). and his response is to recount how he foresaw long lines at the gas pumps in the 70s so he built a gasoline storage depot on his property. That's... that's it. His response to alternatives to price rationing, is a story about how he hoarded resources so he didn't have to put up with it, and share it with his relatives as long as they asked in a humble manner.
Thank you for verbalizing your feeling of the dark energy! Certainly a frame of mind one succumbs when listening to and agreeing with what is said in the podcast of Mr. Nate Hagens and his illustre and eloquent guests! The required Ki/Chi (life energy) that is required to offset the creeping fear is substantial. It’s good to learn it happens even to more learned and educated persons. I am sending merit to all.
Yo Nate, great dialogue with kiril. Have you ever interviewed John Mearsheimer? Now would be a good time. BTW, when there is no hope left, there’s always hopium.
Great episode! He said gold stocks "continue to outperform" at about 53:00 instead the captioned "begin to outperform". The caption is obviously more accurate since gold stocks are down a lot, I wonder if it was done on purpose?
Nate, do you have plans of adding your books into audible? I have been loving your book the bottlenecks of the 21st century but boy would it be even better if read by you haha
great, so the answer for everyone is to be self sustainable by moving to the Bahamas. I hope they have a lot of high ground there. lol Thank goodness for close captioning to make up for bad microphones.
Before listening, I'll offer my reply to the question in the title seeking the most important question: "How can we efficiently and fairly account for externalities (make prices honest) so that what is profitable aligns with what is sustainable?" My answer: Charge substantial fees to industries proportional to extraction of natural resources, emission of pollutants (including through marketing of materials that, when used, cause pollution), and in proportion to disturbance of or destruction of wildlife habitat, in pursuit of profit. The policy will be fair if fee proceeds are shared to all people. My proposed 'Most Important Question' is related to the question, "How can we promote sustainability *and* end poverty?" (It is related because both questions have the same answer.)
Nate, pretty sure I have been mentioning the necessity of "TRIAGE" discussion now to you and your audience over a year (maybe even 2 now)? All of these discussions are great. But none (few) of them discuss actionable solutions/strategies. CAN this discussion be had anywhere? Or is it just "off limits" for some reason?
Typical investor (fascist) framing agriculture and fossil fuels as the only way to feed the planet's humans imagining a guaranteed return on investment.
Hi Nate, I really love your interviews, but ... Kiril Sockoloff says that we have to start sharing all this wealth ("Age of Aquarius") The central purpose of mankind walking the earth is to hone/sharpen the virtuousness of the species. That can only be accomplished through the dichotomy of challenges versus achievements. We CANNOT remove/short-circuit that process by handing success to wholesale groups of people. If we start doing that, we will AGAIN be shortchanging large populations of their birthright as humans. IMHO.
Just to add, the balance is virtues versus vices. How does each person's scorecard look? And how does all of humanity look? That is the only responsible way to look at it (assuming re-incarnation).
Lisening as I live in Southern France (70 km outside Bordeaux) for the salt 4 years. Desperate to move elsewhere. We are at the end of our 4rth heat wave - and associated drought. The handwriting is on the wall - but few are reading. But some are beginning to wonder, what the heck are we doing in the Ukraine. Energy Prices aregoing through the roof, but the gov't will probably print magic money. It's win-win for the US as we become a vassal state for the interests of US. We need to knit things back up with Putin and bring him back in the folds of the EU. We will otherwise be crushed by US and Chinese interests with Russian on the wrong side of things. We needs their resources and their people - and we become a 3rd power against the US which clearly covertly started this was by probacation in the Dombass regions. Some French analysts known this, but get censured from time to time.
Good to see there are rational minds on both sides of the ‘pond’. Not that I’m any fan of Putin (as if I have to mention that). But that our dear leaders have a different trajectory for us than we would like, should be obvious by now to anyone who’s paying attention. Best wishes to you mon frere
It's September 30th, 2022 and a massive hurricane has just hit south Florida. Mr Sokoloff does seem to have unusual an prescience given that this interview happened many weeks ago.
That was only massive on the scale we're familiar with. When a truly massive one hits, Fla will be permanently reshaped. It may happen somewhere else first, but it will have to be mainland America for Americans to truly wake up and become aware of where things are headed.
With scientists saying that there is going to be a possible Super El Nino this year This will have dire Consequences on those Nuclear Plants which need their river flows full for the Cooling process!
Primary energy from nuclear can sustain continued economic growth and increasing complexity IF materials recycling is used. Later, we can mine the asteroid belt using nuclear rockets etc etc. If nuclear didn’t exist, we would be doomed. However, nuclear is in the world and the only thing stopping the transition to nuclear is regulatory. This is my conclusion after a few months of analysis. Please challenge me a d let me know if i am missing something.
In theory, it seems nuclear is the only thing that can work energy-wise, but the issue is nuclear unlike oil is not fungible and requires many many inputs. Oil does not require very rare inputs to work or “come together” like nuclear does. Even with materials recycling, I am very skeptical because all nuclear requires very rare earth minerals/metals for many things including the production of the plant for safety. Just look at the chip shortage issue we are having. And aside from that, many of the more advanced forms of nuclear still have yet to prove themselves so that also remains to be seen. With all that said, I think we still should have pushed hard to develop the grid for nuclear energy and transition for that but we have sadly wasted so much time that with each passing year it becomes much less feasible. If we can transition to nuclear, we have to do it while we have enough cheap energy, unless we want to wait for many people to die. And lastly, there is the issue that the earth can’t sustain a population much greater and perhaps even at current levels.
Uranium mining poisons the water. Water is Life! It is a terrible trade off. Water and oxygen are the basic ingredients of life - without those none of us survive. They must be given the highest priority and treated as sacred. Let's not forget that there were many civilizations that existed and flourished before gas and electricity. They had art, culture, advanced engineering and I would argue that in some of these civilizations they also had a better quality of life. The collapse of these civilizations can in many cases be attributed to water or war. Let's learn and not go down the same path. Energy is like heroin - we don't actually NEED it but we like it and are so addicted a sudden withdrawal would be deadly. Let's slowly detox to low tech. Watch the gen Z's, they are doing some amazing things. A 17 year old made an engine that doesn't require rare earth metals. They are making phones you can use your whole life, they are making new recycling tools, etc. They have the ideas but they need mentors, education and funding.
You assume nuclear fuel is infinite. I don't think it is. You assume nuclear is cheap. I don't think it is. You assume nuclear does not come with an environmental cost. I think it does. You think nuclear is 100% safe. In fact, you would even loosen it's safety regulations. I think that's insane. You fell for the narrative that says "We have this perfect energy source but because of some barefoot hippies we can't have this magical technology" Too much bro science. Too much Elon Musk worship. I honestly don't know what scares me the most. The anthropogenic climate change deniers or the nuclear bros. You are a cornucopian pollyanna. You really don't understand where we are and still think we are going to keep the trajectory we had in the past two centuries. You people talk about nuclear like a religious fundamentalist talks about god. It's flawless. And if everyone embraced it all our problems would be magically solved. The problem is just the unbelievers.
One dimensional thinking. Overshoot is much much more multifaceted than anthropogenic greenhouse gases. "Mining asteroids" you say. Yeeaaa. That's the ticket. Diminishing returns to recycling are not transcended by switching to an ostensibly cheaper energy source. At some point, in some contexts, recycling is not only an economic loss, but a net negative in terms of energy efficiency and environmental degradation. After due emphasis on reduce and reuse, the best recycling system is nature - i.e. composting, which requires emphasis on biodegradable materials over short term utility. When not only the forecast, but increasingly the plan and goal appear to be civilizational collapse, nuclear is not a viable option. Nuclear waste dump sites have already been designed with sculptural cues that indicate they are dangerous sites. This is because it is likely the waste will remain dangerous into a future where humans may be post literate.
Here are show notes as well as full transcript of this conversation: The transcript is now uploaded and will scroll with the sound at bottom of screen if you turn on 'Closed Captioning' (CC). Also, in the Settings icon (gear-looking icon), please make sure you choose the option "English" (not "auto-generated" ). PDF of Transcript: tinyurl.com/3a8kszjj
Show notes: www.thegreatsimplification.com/episode/34-kiril-sokoloff
Kiril is among the most intelligent, successful, and evolved human beings that I have ever heard address the current predicament of humankind. His level of concern as to what comes next leads him to move to a small island nation go off-grid, become self-sufficient, and prepare for barter. He is also the guy who bought fuel oil and gasoline right before the first oil crisis whileliving in Westchester County (just outsideof NYC). This comes from a man whose greatest interest in life is to build human consciousness. He's not running away from his responsibilities, he's recognizing the inevitability of what's about to happen and taking a rational and ethical approach. That's sobering.
Wonderful discussion, Nate! I have just become a certified regenerative soil advocate and my conversations with local farmers and consumers are quite frustrating. Every time I listen to your podcast, I feel more hopeful that we have a chance, because people like you are willing to be the voice of reasoning. I look forward to the next time! Thank you for the work you are doing.
Hi Nate, thank you for another very good podcast with Kiril Sokoloff. I don’t know if it is possible to improve the audio, Kiril’s audio is extremely difficult to hear I’m missing words and will have to listen a couple of times to get all that he is saying. Thank you,
Hi. The team cleaned the sound up as much as possible. Sometimes things are beyond our control. We’ll post a full transcript shortly
I listen to these in the car, Mr Sokoloff was very difficult to listen to.
@@thegreatsimplification Team: more treble!
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I use auto-generated subtitles and it's super useful already
Just best to skip this one
Another eye opening conversation
Mind expanding (and heart expanding) episode! It is well worth the fuzzy audio just to listen to Kiril Sokoloff’s final reflections.
Nate, I so hope that your powerful connections can lead you to future guest appearances on Joe Rogan’s and maybe Chris Martenson’s platforms. Etc. Maybe Robert Wright (nonzero). I am thankful that education is your primary endeavor. To reach across (above, maybe) our fractured partisan, siloed, Balkanized, tribal boundaries has never been more important. I’m in awe of your communication skills and your depth and breadth of knowledge. Keep expanding that breadth and depth .. I wish you all the best as your audience and influence expand.
I’d love to ask Mr. Sokoloff how he balances his Buddhist beliefs and his embrace of capitalism. At times he seemed to contradict himself - I know that his world view is balanced so I want to dig deeper into how he balances his spiritual awareness with his financial/capitalistic awareness. Or more deeply, how the world could embrace “Buddhist Capitalism” if that’s such a thing. Is this what the age of Aquarius is about?
Buddha wept.
Uh? Buddha philosophy was lower your expectations and desires to zero. I'm pretty sure capitalism, an economic organization of global society and resources fueled by cupidity of individual's, is like the opposite of what Buddha believed.. Buddha wouldn't care about capitalism or the collapse of civilization due to peak oil or climate change or anything else. He literally preached have absolutely no fucks to give about absolutely anything
I'm really confused about the age of Aquarius
Exactly - harkens back the the 1960s and supernatural astrology beliefs.
@@joelmichalski7429 Well, I guess we need to listen to him selectively...many things he said in the first half makes logical sense until the age of Aquarius, lol
I really appreciate this man and his diverse thoughts. Thank you for interviewing him, Nate!
Criminally underated podcast.
"(Sokoloff) was one of the first “supply-siders”, joining Jack Kemp and others in 1977 to spread the word that cutting tax rates and de-regulating the U.S. economy, would cause an economic boom in the U.S. Kemp’s “supply-side” cut in tax rates was the basis for the Reagan Revolution..."
That's him touting his own resume. About as "part of the problem" as you can get.
i was also struggling with this point. I want to hear him talk about his supply side evangelism versus his Buddhist philosophy. How does he balance these world views?
Also when he says "I'm a capitalist ... we should follow Buddhism's interconnectedness". Capitalism is an imperial mode of living that commodifies all spheres of life for the sake of capital accumulation. How that's supposed to respect interconnectedness? Capitalism and its contradiction by design is the main engine of the catastrophe we are dealing now and with no matter regulation can become sustainable.
Thank you both Kiril and Nate.
Just wanted to say a huge thank you Nate for all that you are doing. It means a lot to me to hear how you are communicating this stuff. I share all the same concerns and feel like I have found a platform that speaks the same language. Here in NZ its quite hard to be holding this as there are so few here who want this conversation . I feel like the harbinger of doom. I try and tell as many people as possible who are receptive to check out your videos and podcasts so that as many as possible will be informed and hopefully create more movement.
How can we create a culture that rewards self-awareness, emotional intelligence, and social consciousness over consumerism, status, and power?
We can’t. Until Mother Nature smacks us back down again or we go extinct.
Outstanding conversation! Thank you.
Beautiful Discussion Nate with a wise Soul in Kiril. We stand as a species at a cross roads. TRUST is the key. This is a small poem to share please, as we head in to using the Dramas we created to be the portal of AWAKENING.
LOSE/FAIL
to lose
to fail
to muck it up
is what its all about
for contained within
are truths revealed
its where you find what counts.
you are here to learn compassion
and its soul mate Empathy
to identify the Drama
that you will cease to be....
by JAWelsh
cheers
29:00 Nate asks this "erudite macro thinker" what he thinks of resource rationing by means OTHER than price (who can afford the resource). and his response is to recount how he foresaw long lines at the gas pumps in the 70s so he built a gasoline storage depot on his property. That's... that's it. His response to alternatives to price rationing, is a story about how he hoarded resources so he didn't have to put up with it, and share it with his relatives as long as they asked in a humble manner.
Yeah, that felt a bit out of touch and distasteful. At least he was honest, I guess!
The 70s was a different time ~ it was long before there was mainstream talk about climate change. Go easy.
Thank you for verbalizing your feeling of the dark energy! Certainly a frame of mind one succumbs when listening to and agreeing with what is said in the podcast of Mr. Nate Hagens and his illustre and eloquent guests! The required Ki/Chi (life energy) that is required to offset the creeping fear is substantial. It’s good to learn it happens even to more learned and educated persons. I am sending merit to all.
Yo Nate, great dialogue with kiril. Have you ever interviewed John Mearsheimer? Now would be a good time. BTW, when there is no hope left, there’s always hopium.
Great episode! He said gold stocks "continue to outperform" at about 53:00 instead the captioned "begin to outperform".
The caption is obviously more accurate since gold stocks are down a lot, I wonder if it was done on purpose?
Nate, do you have plans of adding your books into audible? I have been loving your book the bottlenecks of the 21st century but boy would it be even better if read by you haha
Thank❤🌹🙏 you, Kiril Sokoloff and 👍🎓🌱Nate! Future seems to be daunting...
great, so the answer for everyone is to be self sustainable by moving to the Bahamas. I hope they have a lot of high ground there. lol
Thank goodness for close captioning to make up for bad microphones.
He's 74 so he must figure extreme sea level rise comes after he's gone.
Before listening, I'll offer my reply to the question in the title seeking the most important question: "How can we efficiently and fairly account for externalities (make prices honest) so that what is profitable aligns with what is sustainable?"
My answer: Charge substantial fees to industries proportional to extraction of natural resources, emission of pollutants (including through marketing of materials that, when used, cause pollution), and in proportion to disturbance of or destruction of wildlife habitat, in pursuit of profit. The policy will be fair if fee proceeds are shared to all people.
My proposed 'Most Important Question' is related to the question, "How can we promote sustainability *and* end poverty?" (It is related because both questions have the same answer.)
Nate, pretty sure I have been mentioning the necessity of "TRIAGE" discussion now to you and your audience over a year (maybe even 2 now)? All of these discussions are great. But none (few) of them discuss actionable solutions/strategies. CAN this discussion be had anywhere? Or is it just "off limits" for some reason?
I have 'Triage' as an upcoming Frankly idea for a riff. (Our entire work -other than podcast is focused on responses/societal triage)
DoD published a thorough report in 2010-2012 (?) that claimed 2007-2008 was in fact, "Peak Oil". I have the hard copy of the report.
Good one, Nate.
Great episode
Always great stuff TY again Nate
Typical investor (fascist) framing agriculture and fossil fuels as the only way to feed the planet's humans imagining a guaranteed return on investment.
The COVID story has changed, the people having been injected are now getting sick.
Hi Nate,
I really love your interviews, but ...
Kiril Sockoloff says that we have to start sharing all this wealth ("Age of Aquarius")
The central purpose of mankind walking the earth is to hone/sharpen the virtuousness of the species.
That can only be accomplished through the dichotomy of challenges versus achievements.
We CANNOT remove/short-circuit that process by handing success to wholesale groups of people.
If we start doing that, we will AGAIN be shortchanging large populations of their birthright as humans.
IMHO.
Just to add, the balance is virtues versus vices.
How does each person's scorecard look?
And how does all of humanity look?
That is the only responsible way to look at it (assuming re-incarnation).
Lisening as I live in Southern France (70 km outside Bordeaux) for the salt 4 years. Desperate to move elsewhere. We are at the end of our 4rth heat wave - and associated drought. The handwriting is on the wall - but few are reading. But some are beginning to wonder, what the heck are we doing in the Ukraine. Energy Prices aregoing through the roof, but the gov't will probably print magic money. It's win-win for the US as we become a vassal state for the interests of US. We need to knit things back up with Putin and bring him back in the folds of the EU. We will otherwise be crushed by US and Chinese interests with Russian on the wrong side of things. We needs their resources and their people - and we become a 3rd power against the US which clearly covertly started this was by probacation in the Dombass regions. Some French analysts known this, but get censured from time to time.
Good to see there are rational minds on both sides of the ‘pond’. Not that I’m any fan of Putin (as if I have to mention that). But that our dear leaders have a different trajectory for us than we would like, should be obvious by now to anyone who’s paying attention.
Best wishes to you mon frere
It's September 30th, 2022 and a massive hurricane has just hit south Florida. Mr Sokoloff does seem to have unusual an prescience given that this interview happened many weeks ago.
That was only massive on the scale we're familiar with. When a truly massive one hits, Fla will be permanently reshaped. It may happen somewhere else first, but it will have to be mainland America for Americans to truly wake up and become aware of where things are headed.
I can't hear him and there's no CC option
CC option coming shortly....edit: CC now available
Kiril's voice is received on my Chromebook broken up, sorry to bail out.
You had me until your guest started talking about vaccines. I’m outa here.
Same here.
With scientists saying that there is going to be a possible Super El Nino this year This will have dire Consequences on those Nuclear Plants which need their river flows full for the Cooling process!
Audibly not very clear, sounds muffled on the guest's mic.
I like these better when we can see your faces.
Primary energy from nuclear can sustain continued economic growth and increasing complexity IF materials recycling is used. Later, we can mine the asteroid belt using nuclear rockets etc etc. If nuclear didn’t exist, we would be doomed. However, nuclear is in the world and the only thing stopping the transition to nuclear is regulatory. This is my conclusion after a few months of analysis. Please challenge me a d let me know if i am missing something.
In theory, it seems nuclear is the only thing that can work energy-wise, but the issue is nuclear unlike oil is not fungible and requires many many inputs. Oil does not require very rare inputs to work or “come together” like nuclear does. Even with materials recycling, I am very skeptical because all nuclear requires very rare earth minerals/metals for many things including the production of the plant for safety. Just look at the chip shortage issue we are having. And aside from that, many of the more advanced forms of nuclear still have yet to prove themselves so that also remains to be seen. With all that said, I think we still should have pushed hard to develop the grid for nuclear energy and transition for that but we have sadly wasted so much time that with each passing year it becomes much less feasible. If we can transition to nuclear, we have to do it while we have enough cheap energy, unless we want to wait for many people to die. And lastly, there is the issue that the earth can’t sustain a population much greater and perhaps even at current levels.
Uranium mining poisons the water. Water is Life! It is a terrible trade off. Water and oxygen are the basic ingredients of life - without those none of us survive. They must be given the highest priority and treated as sacred. Let's not forget that there were many civilizations that existed and flourished before gas and electricity. They had art, culture, advanced engineering and I would argue that in some of these civilizations they also had a better quality of life. The collapse of these civilizations can in many cases be attributed to water or war. Let's learn and not go down the same path. Energy is like heroin - we don't actually NEED it but we like it and are so addicted a sudden withdrawal would be deadly. Let's slowly detox to low tech. Watch the gen Z's, they are doing some amazing things. A 17 year old made an engine that doesn't require rare earth metals. They are making phones you can use your whole life, they are making new recycling tools, etc. They have the ideas but they need mentors, education and funding.
You assume nuclear fuel is infinite. I don't think it is.
You assume nuclear is cheap. I don't think it is.
You assume nuclear does not come with an environmental cost. I think it does.
You think nuclear is 100% safe. In fact, you would even loosen it's safety regulations. I think that's insane.
You fell for the narrative that says "We have this perfect energy source but because of some barefoot hippies we can't have this magical technology"
Too much bro science. Too much Elon Musk worship.
I honestly don't know what scares me the most. The anthropogenic climate change deniers or the nuclear bros.
You are a cornucopian pollyanna. You really don't understand where we are and still think we are going to keep the trajectory we had in the past two centuries.
You people talk about nuclear like a religious fundamentalist talks about god. It's flawless. And if everyone embraced it all our problems would be magically solved. The problem is just the unbelievers.
One dimensional thinking. Overshoot is much much more multifaceted than anthropogenic greenhouse gases. "Mining asteroids" you say. Yeeaaa. That's the ticket.
Diminishing returns to recycling are not transcended by switching to an ostensibly cheaper energy source. At some point, in some contexts, recycling is not only an economic loss, but a net negative in terms of energy efficiency and environmental degradation. After due emphasis on reduce and reuse, the best recycling system is nature - i.e. composting, which requires emphasis on biodegradable materials over short term utility.
When not only the forecast, but increasingly the plan and goal appear to be civilizational collapse, nuclear is not a viable option. Nuclear waste dump sites have already been designed with sculptural cues that indicate they are dangerous sites. This is because it is likely the waste will remain dangerous into a future where humans may be post literate.
Nuclear prolongs business as usual. Do you want to save civilization or save the biosphere? You cannot do both.