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Buying a Farm | Our BIG Mistake & the Best Locations for Us
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- G'Day Folks. We made a BIG MISTAKE on a recent trip when looking at 2 new potential farm properties. We thought it was well worth sharing so others don't make the same HUGE mistake we did when looking at buying a farm.
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Rob, I urge you to review the playlists at suspicious observers. Just want the best for you and yours.
Travel distance is important. It’s easy to overlook when you find something that just seems right. Keep looking, good things are coming for the Rob Bob family.
Cheers Bill. Hopefully we can turn a few bob on the farm & B won't be working much longer. 😉
I believe everything happens for a reason. Stay strong & true to your path guys. You’ll get there! ❤
Cheers Matthew. 👍
Its hard not to get caught up in the moment, especially when the property is so awesome. I'm sure the owners will understand. Good luck finding your dream property.
Thanks Laura. 👍
Ol dog here.
Great job breaking it all down.
Hrs travel gets old quick. Especially if you're driving into the sun morning and evening. Roos if it gets dark. Klms equal replacement and / or maintenance.
I've been buying real estate for 20 years.
Buy at or near a top of market period means if you have to get out for some reason before the next jump in value, you can end up getting less than you paid.
Even if you intend to stay on a property for life, sh1t happens, so you need an exit strategy.
Jono
Cheers for that Jono. 👍
By the look of it the prices have peaked in a lot of the areas we're looking at.
We are going through exactly the same thing here with property. Distance is important to us too but we may have just found a place that ticks all our boxes - including distance. Don't stress about it, something even more perfect will come along which will tick ALL the boxes.
Thanks James. I'm pretty much looking daily as the market is fairly tight at the moment.
@@RobsAquaponics Stick with it. We have just bought a property which ticks all our boxes. Moving at the end of next month!
@@monkeypuzzlefarm Congrats mate. 👍👍👍👍
Get your pilot's license. 5 hrs by car now 2 hrs by bush plan
If we won the lotto that may be an option. I've seen a few places with airfields on them, all over $1mil though.
Solid advice guys, you will know the place, it will speak to both of you in some ways. For me it was walking down the long driveway and having wildlife jumping all around and then connecting with the owners who became family.
Nice one mate. I'm sure we'll find a suitable place. We do have one place in mind but it's at the top end of our budget & we'd have nothing left over to fix a few issues. Owners were great & spent a lot of time running us through all the different nooks & crannies of the property. We'll be going over that place in the next video.
@@RobsAquaponics look forward to seeing that vid mate
Great advice 👍 I bought on impulse, worst mistake of my life!!!!! Huge repercussions long-term. Once you put everything you have into something, its not easy or simple to get out later.
One thing to check out is the cost of rates- as we are now in the Gladstone region, our total Rates (which include Trickle Feed water supply @ 1.3lt/min + garbage collection) is around $6300/yr (or $5400 if paid on time). No sewerage, septic only.
We got a shock last year when the rates bill rocked up- trying ro get the remainder paid off before rates bill this year.
Also find what size the biggest solar you can do on single phase (or 3 Phase if needwd)
Thanks for the pointers Max. One of the first bits of info I've been looking for is the rates bills on the properties we've visited. So far they've all been cheaper than our current house.
Cheers.
Keep in mind that people could camp on the property, as opposed to cabins etc. If you have the infrastructure for a few sites, you could also make a few bob on Hipcamp
That's one of the ideas we're tossing around 😉👍
Hi Rob, I have been in that situation and excited about a new place just like you, the 24hours cool down is really what it sounds, 24 hours to let the practicalities of the situation re-surface over all the hype of "omg we can do XYZ here it will be great" Happy you both had a look at what is important to you, and I hope you find the dream property for you both.
Thanks Zesty Notions. 😁👍
Good luck in finding the property of your dreams like we did
Valuable life lessons, thank you guys!!
What a beautiful team you make!
Greetings from Potchefstroom, South Africa!
Thanks Gert. We have looked at a few more that are suitable but they're both at the top of our price range & wouldn't leave us much $$ to play with for the improvements we'd need.
Cheers mate.
I hope you guys do manage to find a spot that ticks all the boxes and leaves enough $$$ available for manoeuvrability.
It always makes it difficult since some of the tick boxes can change or even fall away in future, which makes it even harder.
All the best for you and I hope you find something soin!
Hoping for good news guys! Good luck. Thanks for sharing your journey.
Thanks Morne. 👍
That property you showed in the video is beautiful and similar to what I want for myself but to far away from where all the family is. Hope that you find the perfect place for you both.
Thanks Fee Bee. I'm sure something will pop up soon.
Cheers & have a top one.
Exciting to come along on the ride with you to look for a homestead. Thanks for sharing. I'm sure you realize that existing infrastructure isn't everything but it's a lot. When you can move in and get down to business instead of having to put up buildings and fences, it's a huge time saver. Especially in these crazy times. My 2 cents; The ponds on this property looked to shallow to me and would require cleaning in a couple of years when they are grown over. Thanks again.
Good boundary fences are a must but don't mind mending or building them My first paid job as a boy was heling our neighbour build stock fences. We've seen a few great places we would love but there just wouldn't be enough left over after buying to put into the infrastructure we need to kick off our plans. We're looking at the possibility of crowd funding the extras but need to work out a more in depth business plan first.
Cheers mate.
We have property at Captain creek, 40 mins north of Rosedale 25k. Out from agnes water. I would have loved coming to your courses.
But you made the right decision, not just financially but it really is a long drive in a family medical situation. I know I've had to do it many times. And your correct people just won't travel that far. Good luck hope you find your dream a little closer to gympie.
Thanks Fifi. We hope to be back out touring the local agents in the next few weeks.
Cheers.
Tnx you Sir and Ma for your expositions on this valuable business opportunities in Australia. It's my dream to own a farm over there. You people are wonderful blessings to me and my family. Once again tnx you sir and Ma.
Best of luck PK. 👍
Hi Rob & Bianca, I live in Gladstone and got excited when you mentioned you may move to Bundy, I am sure you will find a more suitable location very soon !
Ditto. We had a block at Rosedale and it was just too far to maintain properly. Sold it and now are looking for something closer.
Thanks. I keep checking the listings every afternoon. 😉👍
Cheers & have a top one.
I can't get over how the area you are looking for properties in is exactly the same as mine was! There are so many nice places at Gin Gin, but it was just too far from Brisbane for me in the end.
Re the back to grid system getting $30/month credit, hopefully that agreement will pass along to the new buyer. Wouldn't surprise me if they try to get you onto a new feed-in tariff that pays you basically nothing.
In the past when I have gotten a home loan, the bank has said I have to do something (like pay off a credit card) before the loan settles, but I've been able to negotiate with them and they were ok with me promising to pay it off within a month after the loan settled. Given how you can buy off-the-shelf off-grid solar systems, I wonder whether your bank might be willing to agree to give you a loan for a property that does not have power connected, as long as you promise to install an off-grid power system within a certain timeframe? I'm just thinking it might open up a few more properties. When I bought my land recently the bank said I needed flood insurance for a rental property I used as security, but I wasn't able to get that because it was in a suburb that flooded in 2011 and 2022. But I was able to explain to them that it was on a hill, nowhere near the flood waters either time, and they were able to waive that requirement completely. So you can definitely negotiate those conditions, you aren't necessarily stuck with their requirements.
Re the verbal offer I wouldn't worry about it too much. No agent I've ever bought through has ever gotten excited at a verbal offer, they don't take you seriously until you sign the contract. Some of them still even take people through on inspections they'd already booked, even after the contract has been signed, before the cooling off period expires. So I think your "mistake" is a pretty common one.
Hey Berkeloid. They're on the base tariff so I think it would still cover the base usage we would have for the house. Not sure if the cool rooms were running though.
We've started to look for just land as well as we've found a few that are cheaper but in areas that a removal house could be shipped to with no issues. 👍 That has widened our options quite a bit actually.
I felt bad re the offer as we made it directly to the owner & I know they're looking to move on to the new property they have an eye on.
I will have an update for you supporters posted tomorrow on yesterday's fruitful hunt all going well.
Cheers mate.
Being a sole parent of a special needs son kinda limits my choices in life. You are both living the dream in my eyes. I love watching your journey and truly enjoy the genuine energy of you both, i find your videos an absolute pleasure to watch. So I've decided to join your little channel and live vicariously through you 🌲🕸🐞🌿🌞
Thank you & many blessings from Rebecca & Malachi 😊
I hope something works out for you both & you get a chance to work your own plot of land Rebecca & Malachi.
Are you here in OZ?
@@RobsAquaponics sure are Rob, we are on the northern Gold Coast border..Logan area.
Great and Goodluck...good 2 be a millionaire to afford a farm nowadays....it's insane
Or have a bank willing to loan you a mill. 🤣🥲😥
Never buy property from the heart always use the head especially if your going to be using the area to grow produce of any kind,.. we had a long history of using DDT and other unsavory chemicals in agri-control
Pest & herbicide usage is something we're very conscious of. Have got some very strange looks from agents & owners when asking.
I’m loving these videos! My partner and I are looking forward to getting some land later in the future, so these videos are useful. Even though you’re on a different continent, the principles all still apply.
Cheers Zachery. Will have another update on search next weekend all going well.
Have a top one mate.
thumbs up for jack!
👍👍 Cheers mate.
We are looking to move north and onto a larger property too. I'd buy that place if it had more bedrooms, tempting even as it is because you could add an extension. We don't have travel constraints and just need a Starlink or Sky Muster connection for our business, but with 5 kids and the need for 2 home offices we need a lot of space. Mind you a couple of shipping container "tiny homes" would be a quick upgrade option.
It is a great place & I think they just dropped the price a bit again.
Cheers Daniel.
@@RobsAquaponics Had a chat with Ana just now while walking the dog, will need to wait until the end of the financial year and talk to the bank as we are not PAYE and need to show how our business is doing, but it is very tempting! Fully fitted out 40 foot container "granny flats" are about $80K delivered so we need to add one or two of those to the total cost though. Must find the time to go up that way and check it out...
G'day I have lived in Gympie, Bundaberg, Harvey Bay, Maryborough and plenty more places before I moved back to nsw to live with my family on our new property together.
We've widened our search back up to just south of Toowoomba again. No new properties hitting the market at the moment.
Cheers MLF.
@@RobsAquaponics Toowoomba area is nice. I hope you two will find your dream property soon
Wow, that's a really good price. I did my degree at UNE and drove to Armidale twice a year for residential schools. 5 and a half to 6 hours drive is pretty much a whole day taken up. It takes a lot out of you.
Couldn't beat the price & we'd of had a fair bit left over for improvements & fixing up the sheds. Just too far away for B.
Hope you're doing well mate.
Jack was an excellent director, glad he got a kip in at the end - well deserved
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You should look at Lockyer Valley...it's about an hour inland from Brisbane....its where we bought an investment property (5 acres) which we are just about to move into....it's the food hub of Queensland....
We're just east of there at Ipswich & have a number of friends & family out there. The prices are a bit steep for the size block we're after as well.
@@RobsAquaponics - ahhh ok, yeah they have climbed since I bought last year, it might settle back down hopefully....good luck on your journey though, hope you both find something soon : )
Suggest, draw circles from parents place at eg 100km, 200km, etc and work from there. You could end up west of Brisbane, in a smallish town but only 1 1/2 hrs from parents.
That's what we've pretty much done now. Have found a few more suitable places north of the line but we're thinking the 2½ hour drive is our limit for now.
Cheers Miriam.
Distance is an issue thats why i decided on Bauple, 40mins from gympie and maryborough and about 1 hour hervey bay.. I need to be close to sunshine coast for same reason as you guys.
Bauple is one of the areas that Bianca really likes. 👍
Thanks Kerry.
Travel time is so important. I recently had a scare with my mum, I was only an hour away and it wasn't life or death but still an ambulance ride. The time sitting in the car really was not pleasant
That's what B's worried about I think. The other option is to get them to move with us, which would be fine with me.
Cheers Katie.
My parents have a property at kyogle that suits exactly what you are after easily run 10 head even though drought shed toilet power dams 100 acres.
Has trees and cleared land fully fenced.
Not to far from Brisbane
Cheers for that Jeffro. We're hoping to stay this side of the border for now.
That may change if we can't find anything up here.
Cheers mate
What about the opposite direction?
Beautiful spots around Boonah Scenic Rim area 😊
Found they're a bit more expensive down that way but we don't mind it either. Still check what's hitting the market there just in case one pops up.
Cheers Daniel.
Hey Rob have you considered the Lockyer or Sommerset areas?
Or out towards Kingaroy/ Roma
The prices closer to Brisbane for the size we want is too high or the property is in flood zones we've found Gerowyn.
I still check on what available locally just in case something pops up. Found a great plot last weekend but it's just out of our price range unfortunately.
@@margbaxs8711 Roma is too far west & we did check Kingaroy out on a previous trip. 👍 Like to stay closer to the larger population centres as folks don't like traveling far for courses.
You'll get the best place for all involved. 😊
😁😁 Cheers Allie. Just keep sending them vibes, we need all we can get. 😁😁
I get it. You got me excited about the spot too!
Yep. That place will make someone very happy once it sells.
Cheers Charles.
Great show people and 🐕 thanks Les from Perth 🐕🐕🐕💯💯💯👀👀👀
Thanks Les. Glad you enjoyed it. 😁👍
Have you thought about South Burnett? It's only about 2 hrs away from you I think and the same or less to Gympie
We did a few drives out there & like the country Tammy. Unfortunately, there's more tourist traveling up the coast. Keeping the jade perch out that way could be an issue as well when it comes to winter temps. Great hunting around Nanango though. 👍
For most people, my place is too big because it is twixt lifestyle and full income producing. But for you, it would be too small apparently. I have 16ac organic property with some existing income for sale 30mins south of Gympie which would put it comfortably 2hrs north of Brisbane. I know people say it is an hour drive but for real it is an hour drive just to Caloundra from here so 2hrs to Bris. Then another hour to wherever in Brisbane means all up a 3hr drive already from here. So don't get caught up in the hype about distance. Always add an extra 1-2hrs to what people say. But lifestyle places are selling like hotcakes. Income producing properties are selling less fast but still too fast for many who need to organise finances since most need the banks involvement. It's madness for sure.
Hey Clissa T. Feel free to leave a link to the property here if you want. You never know who may check it out after reading the comments.
B & I are open to smaller blocks if they tick enough boxes as well. 😉
Cheers.
Cheers from Missouri, USA!
I dream of the type of properties y'all are looking at, so if you don't mind, I would like to live vicariously through you and your videos.
On a side note, regarding your comment about "'permaculture"', I just finished the 18 videos of "chicken tractor on steroids" from 'Perma Pasture Farms'. I think you might find some knowledge in there. Pease. Be well my friends, and take care.
Billy pts out some great content. 👍I haven't been through all their content, just bits & bobs. Will check out the chook tractor though, thanks.
Cheers Bob & have a top one mate.
@@RobsAquaponics Thank you Rob, be well!!
Cairns airport 2 hr flight to Brisbane. Cairns a major hub that may have Bianca's work.
I don't think B could handle the heat. I'd have no issue though. Cheers LouLou
@RobsAquaponics ahhh I'm on Atherton Tablelands so climate pretty much same as Bris
Looked good,, bummer it was farther away for you.
Yep. Fantastic place & it will make someone very happy. 👍
@@RobsAquaponics Don't think I could convince anyone here to leave our 40+ acres in Texas to go over there. LOL
Hey Rob, I have a question not related to this video. I have been following you for a couple years now, and I have built an aquaponics system, it is a 330 gallon ibc fish tank and a 75 gall ibc grow bed filled with hydroton clay pebbels. It also has a 250 gallon sump tank. It is a gravity fed system. For the filtration side of it has a 60 gallon radial flow settler and a 60 gallon moving bed biofilm reactor with 4 cubic feet of k1 media. I can't get it to cycle. I did a fish in cycle and I started trying to cycle it back August and I just can't get it to cycle. During winter I fed my bluegill (20 of them) twice a week, and l tested my system has had a high ammonia and nitrite levels. So I have to wait several says for them to come down. They always come down in time, though. My fish are hungry because I haven't fed them in two weeks. Is there anything that I can do to get it to cycle faster and decrease the ammonia and nitrite levels? Thanks for the help!
Just passing by... But I think Rob has a Patron thing where he has a 'one on one' thing.... Hope that helps. Be well.
Time & ammonia is about it Kelli. Adding in some media from a cycled system can help right at the start.
Have you looked at the bunya's 1hr from Toowooba with high turist flow from all over
We have been north of Toowoomba up to Gin Gin the back way & found some great spots. I think the coast will be better for what we want to do at the moment.
Hassle the local gov to make sure the new hospital in bundaberg has complete medical suite 👍🏻✌🏻 sick of tax money making pollies fat whilst the elders have to centralise in order to live close to a decent heart specialists 👍🏻✌🏻
Wish ya’s all tha best & non of tha rest guys.
Cheers OZ news. Think we'll be sticking to places below Maryborough for now.
Would only move to bundy if B's parents came along.
@@RobsAquaponics wish ya’s all tha best mate 👍🏻✌🏻
it will be great if you make a video about how to test the water in real situation when you visit one of these properties.😃do you ask the owners permission?
Most have bore water tests done when they're drilled so the owners have a copy. 👍👍
You Two are are so cute!🤣
😁 Cheers Anna. 😁
Also having over 100 acres is a pain to manage, All the weeds of the world plus more. I would have like to clear sadly as when I bought the Labor government at the time needed the greens and locked down clearing so have loads of wattle and all high risk bush fire material, can't open up the land to allow grass to grow properly other than loads of weeds and thus can't even feed 2 horses on the property in trying times. I had 30 cows at one time but constant weekly searching and buying any feed took the toll back before 2006 plus all the bureaucracy of just doing some calf fattening send to market finished that side project. Also check the fencing if its a large property even 100+ acres is a big ordeal to fence if it's not in good order. Also that larger dam with all the lilies in the middle means its not that deep 2-3m if that. Ideally the dam should have clear water in the middle. If the water is muddy that also means its very fresh water as not a lot of salt causing the tiny mud particles (negatively charged and thus stay in suspension) from accumulating and then sinking due to gravity. Also get water quality checks of the bore and ponds (iron, salt etc)
'I know dam Greenies. They treat us like idiots. I remember in the 50's-80's you could clear your block/back burn, clear trees from your house to prevent bush fires. My sister called/faxed/wrote a letter and ask the council in Sydney to remove a 40ft gum leaning directly centering over her house, they said no. She even offered to replace the tree with another native on her property. So she said when it hits my house I'll send you the bill to rebuild. Next week it was approved to cut down. 🌲
Cheers for that rw. We have a checklist of things to test & ask for now once we decide on a place. Water quality & weed issues are at the top.
Have you guys thought about harlin , just outside of kilcoy even esk ?
Most of what we saw out that way were out of our budget unfortunately. Lovely area though. We started off looking between Esk & Nanango a while back.
@@RobsAquaponics yeh can get a bit pricey out there now . We were fortunate enough to inherit a subdivision block on an 80acre property . In harlin , which we have a 3 year plan to join to kit homes together and go fully off grid with solar and battery’s . Supporting our selves with livestock and Aquaponics ect and also enlarge my fish breeding business once we are out there
I notice your map is mainly north of Brisbane.
Have you considered west of the range??
Trying to stay near the population on the coast for the type of courses we want to run TBG. Also trying to stay away from the mines & gas fields if we can. We could go an hour out of Toowoomba if we found a suitable place. I'm still checking those locations as well as you never know what might pop up.
only downside to Gympie is our Council
In this day and age, you would be speaking about any form of g-ment.
Cheers from USA my friend. Be well.
They're a lot better than many others down our way from what I've been told. A bit more lenient on new buildings & infrastructure.
Love the New presenter bit noisy when eating & needs training on his vocabulary other than that top marks, Shame that place was to far out from your parents but I'm sure one will present itself soon
🤣 Jack
Cheers Gary. looked at 2 more last weekend & one was a real goer so added it to the see again list.
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Not really hearing the crunching
we could.
LOL, we just sold our property in Rosedale on Mineral Road, 50m up the road. We also sold because its too far from home to maintain. I would have regretted it massively if you bought that one and we would not have been neighbours.
😁 Beautiful area, just too far unfortunately. Did you buy another property or move to town?
Cheers.
@@RobsAquaponics Yes, we are in negotiations for one much closer to where we currently are - Close enough that we can move there permanently which is our dream.
@@mini696 Congrats. Hope you get it Mini696. 👍👍
Give my mate John a ring at Century21 Maryborough, he will find something for you!
Thanks Paul.
We have their website on our watch list. 👍
The property with 6kw solar and $30-$40 credit on the bill what feed in tarrif do they get nearly sounds like they are getting the 50c feed in tarrif which will be lost when ownership changes ?
The feed in tariff is only lost if the system changes.
@@mini696 ownership of the system also stops the tarrif, I experienced this.
Doesn't last too if it's Ergon they usually have feed in limits and the feed in rate on the open market is about 9c/KWhr at the moment.
They are receiving the same as the previous owners so it must transfer. It will be something we check out though. Worse case is we buy batteries & tell the power company to go jump. ;)
4.5 hrs drive from Bundaberg? im sure those areas have regional airport running regular flights to Brisbane . but majorit of population clustered around brisbane and sunshine coast. so you guys will get more potential customers if you live near as you guys pointed out..
Good luck getting a flight for a decent price up here.
@@mini696 That's what B found when traveling for work.
We're thinking most folks can't justify the plane & hire car cost for the short courses we want to start off with. Most can afford to drive, at lest for the time being
@@RobsAquaponics There are a lot of like minded people around Agnes and those who travel there that might make it worthwhile. But that is a big risk, and doesn't help with the distance to your parents.
Is stuffed up a good thing?
Glad we pulled the offer but generally, stuffing up is a bad thing.
@@RobsAquaponics gotcha...I love Aussie slang
He's a big boy 😄😁😍
Yarp. 😄
Do not give clear details about how to find your property.
I know most of your viewer base is sane, but it's never 100%. Look at what happened to Pure Living for Life / KERF: a band of internet stalkers tracked down their property and continually escalated their harassment of the couple
We will have to as we'll be holding courses there. I already have folks turn up out of the blue here wanting to do a tour. If folks want to find you they will in this day & age unfortunately.
Yes gympie is developing so fast it's ridiculous my friend live ĵust out of town hopefully when roadwork is done faster traval times up that way
We're hoping the bypass opens up a few more places for us Malcolm as it will reduce travel time a fair bit from Brisbane.