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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 30 ก.ย. 2024
- A lot of big changes for TEKKEN and the Heat System overall! Here are the most important ones!
0:00 Start
0:01 AOP 3+4 Hurtbox Nerf
0:27 During Heat F212 Last Hit is more consistent now
0:57 Generic throws track, command throw tracking nerf
1:37 RDS throws and Hop'n'Throws don't track anymore, AOP throws track = Big Nerf for Xiaoyu
2:42 Heat Burst Nerf = sidesteppable and launch!
3:53 HB can be parried now!
4:30 Power crush beats Heat Burst
5:03 Heat Wall Combo F212, cali roll into Hop'n'throw doesn't work anymore (no tracking)
Also:
- Heat Dash got nerfed (from +18 to +5 on block), wall stagger is gone which is good as it was too oppressive
- The moves UF1 and AOP UF delayed 3 (low kick) can't be low parried anymore.
Xiaoyu still is in a decent spot, however the Hop'n'Throw nerf hurts a lot, her pressure game got nerfed :/
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Long time Xiao player for over 15 years that doesn't own the game still!. Its intereting watching these nerfs and buffs and how quickly younger players have adjusted to T8 ling. Thanks for your clear detailing of what i can expect to when i finally enter the fight😅
I hope you manage to get the game soon x
@@VillainessAO Cheers! I have a new hit box controller ready to go...for 3 months now lol.
15 years rookie numbers😂But nice it's been 27 years for me with Ling..And my main main Lei Wulong who is never coming back will be 29 years..
@@tryingtochangemyways5074 Lol imagine I explain my experience with and love for the game and someone come here like "LOL YOU'RE A JOKE that's so little time compared to MY experience" lmao
@aminaV_ Yes it was a joke which is why I put😂And then follow it up with"nice" meaning that good.Then I mentioned my time..But I don't expect people to read and comprehend..Because everybody is negative these days and people just automatically see everything as negative..But yes playing Tekken for decades should be reward..Like I should be able to call Harada and ask for Lei Wulong return..
Nah.. We still alright
With all the buffs to Kazuya and Yoshi, Xiaoyu will finally gain her rightful spot, at the bottom of the win rate list. *sadface
Her win rate is already near the bottom ... just ahead of Kaz
My point exactly. Now she’ll be #1, from the bottom.
She was already there. lol
Her win rate just proves the player needs a brain to pilot her. No need to be sad. 👌
Bottom player rate characters mean the players stay loyal to the character through the nerfs/buffs……top character usage for players who wanna mash for wins don’t wanna do work or tier hopping people no need for the sad face and I’m a Xiaoyu main 😉
I switched from law to ling in T8. Her Gameplay make so much fun.
AOP 3+4 being nerfed is rough, it was such a reliable AOP mixup and it's not exactly unreactable... Lowest winrate in the game and they keep making her harder to play
On the bright side most characters could punish it with the right move. It’s just ppl would default to using a mid or something but on block it was always punishable. Still a good mixup i think
@@blackdiamond097Fair point, honestly I'm relying too heavily on AOP 1+2 / 3+4 as mixups, there's probably much better
Idk why they nerfing her why keep doing that to her she already a hard character to play but LingNation will stay loyal to her no matter what we just gotta work around the nerfs……AGAIN like didn’t she already got nerfed from the last patch? But she will always be my main no matter what ❤
still dont have T8 but our girl is being treated like this again 😔
I've seen things on twitter where anything Ling does in back turn no longer tracks, is any of this intentional? are throws not meant to track too?
The hop n throw change hurts real bad.
I have a setup where I intentionally drop a combo that ends in RDS and then cali roll and then hop n throw to catch them when they quickroll.
If ever I'll use the hop n throw cancel, that would be to bait a reaction and make it whiff from crouch RDS into cali roll maybe.
Yep all her setups from that are gone for the time being
Hopefully they fix it🥲
They didn’t nerf her directly but the changes they made impacted her quite a bit
@@impacted_seer had a couple of matches early on, still looks good. You can still do command grab up close.
Hey bro I like your gameplay
@@ArmaGaming ah at least but if we’re being honest , they hurt her quite a bit with the nerfs🥲
@@impacted_seer LOLL you also know Y2K? 😂 I played with him last week I think, he's the Tekken King Jin and I was using Xiaoyu. He was super fun to play against but when I used one of Xiaoyu's taunts as a joke, he got so mad 😭😭
Having less moves tracking is kinda also a buff for Xiayou TBH
How is that a buff?
@@knightmoonbeam785 Xiaoyu is made for moving around and punishing off of forcing people whiff. Imagine how funny it’s going to be when you just dodge all of a kings grabs!!
Power crush beating heat is the only thing I feel a bit worried about but other than that, I think we'll live(?) Time to adjust and find new ways. Thanks for the update!
This is lazy balancing that at least the tracking of the grabs fixes her problem in her offense, they decided to indirectly removed it
So these are overall nerfs for every character ....means ling only got buff in form of f212 consistent on wall
Are the heat nerfs for all characters or just Xiaoyu because that would be incredibly unfair but I guess being a Xiaoyu user was always an uphill battle.
For all chars!
All since you already have 2 wincon buttons enders that beat power crushes and some heat burst can armor
[(>_>) king] and be evasive like heat smash and rage art
Xiaoyu carries
Ling dodged another bullet my friend
the RDS F throw not tracking after 212 is so sadge 😞
wait why are rds generics not tracking
😭
That's gotta be an oversight
It’s considered command grab sadly
Lili’s Bt throws don’t track as well
The nerf of throws from RDS is quite annoying. It was fun to use it or use and cancel it. It is really seeable imao and it might be often side step now
Just what I needed 😌
Do the old combos still work?
Does the change to be able to SS heat burst goes for all chars?
Are you able SS heat burst in general or just against ling?
we could say this update have a well balance 😉😊
We both got nerfs for my main feng and you with xiaoyu 😅
If the animation of heat burst started, is it already too late to step, parry or power crush ? If it sn ot, heat bursts become very reactable
Yes then it is too late, it's not that easy 😁
Does AoP avoid heat burst consistently against all characters?
it depends on the character like i think jin’s hits but i could be wrong
Why did they perform xiaoyu so much? That's not a fair advantage going against other apps. Like the throws should've stayed the same and sidestepping a hit burst Is crazy and that should be a thing for all characters not just xiaoyu. They really hate xiaoyu it's not like she's op. Maybe mixups can be a little confusing but alot of characters have them. All the crying people did payed off when there's plenty of characters that need nerfs but instead got buffs. Either way I'm going to find a way around it. But thank you for the heads up and video to let us know exactly what to expect. Appreciate it
The heat burst change is for all characters. Many of the changes this patch are (near) uniform changes to mechanics that effect everyone including grabs and pretty much every heat mechanic.
The throw and heat burst nerfs are for all characters.
The sidestepping of heat burst is a good idea, they should just fix her forward throws in back turn and make it realign
The rest are needed nerfs to the overall aggressive game system
Ty
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idk what happen but it seems you need to fix something on the recording software. the sound is not very clear, like its mono(?) idk how to described it. Love your content as a fellow xiaoyu player
Great vid 😎
Oof big nerf to RDS, sidestep beats out alot of options from RDS.
Only thing that tracks is cali roll.
Most are generic nerfs, for xiaoyu and king, grabs are weakend. We will used to it soon
In your honest opinion. If you were to exclude heat as a factor. Would Telken 8's ling still be considered stronger than tekken 7's final update Ling?
I really hope they don't (continue to) nerf her to bottom tier status.
I bought Tekken 7 in the late part of 2018. I remember Ling was so strong. Because despite my noob status I could edge out win against cheaters for at least one round. Then I stopped playing online once I realized I need to beat treasure mode. So I could handle Ling with some consistency.
I would eventually start playing online again. And there were so many cheaters. Ling lost moves and got nerfs. But I got stronger and faster smarter as a result. Soon I was beating cheaters for the first time. The game was fun for a time. Nerfs came. Ling got a new move. And I adapted the best I could.
Soon I had cheaters needing to go all out creating 1-5 frame delays. Just to steal their wins. By the last three updates. I felt like I could challenge pros well enough. That they'd at least learn something from me. At least one thing. Even if that thing was just that I played fair. They'd see my potential. While handing me my ass lol.
Right now I don't hate Tekken 8. It's fun. But the lagswitchers are starting to make it tiresome. I record ever match online. For every one player who plays fair. I go against what seems like 25 lagswitchers. I've gone against good\bad, hardcore\stupid, legacy knowledge\ no legacy knowledge, boosted\slow mo lagswitcher etc etc.
The slowmo jack was kind fun. But had no business playing in rank. Ling started off in T8, finally on the same level as her peers. If not a little stronger. Now I fear she'll only be going down hill from here.
I guess I'll have to adapt or "adjust" and see.
I recently got into red ranks. I have an idea of what, need to work on. Defense and mix ups.
Worst character in the game now.
Heat nerfs are very welcome for all characters, it was too op. Anyway, I think Rage Art should be nerfed to never kill you if it's launched without combo. Feels so unfair to lose games just because that move is launched.
If rage art takes 40% of blood, but always left your character with 1% blood, it would be still a scary move, but it will feel much fair and it would give you the chance to win the round.
Many Double KOs would come to play