Very nice machine. I have the impression that the compression stroke is not being fully used, this does not give heating problem since it must pump more often to play the volume of air needed to complete the tank rifle PCP?
Super Idee! Wo kann ich die Instructions finden? Ja, mein Deutsch ist nich so gut. If you have any instructions about how how to build such a device, please let me know.
Nice! How about sourcing a dual drive/double shaft motor to handle a 2nd pump!?! (Would be ideal for those with more guns or spare tanks!) Also... for those of you posting that the price of the motor makes this cost prohibitive... there are ways to source motors without paying retail! PLUS a simple Craigslist Ad (mentioning you fill paintball tanks!) would offset the cost & eventually turn a profit!
+василий долдин I'm guessing the usual way, indoor air which in most houses tends to be less humid than outdoor. In addition to that pausing and bleeding every now and then depending on what is appropriate for his environment and the moisture trap of the pump. It won't get rid of all the condensation but considering that's the method used when pumping normally it's as good as you can use it with that setup, I am slightly concerned though with one thing using this method and that's heat. When pumping manually you can easily overheat the seals within a few minutes, it may seem like a great solution and yes you don't have to pump it yourself but the pump will still get the same heat buildup. Because of that unless you already have the pump and happen to know someone who can build such a thing or you can do it yourself it's probably not financially viable. You're likely better off looking for a commercially mass produced air compressor either the cheaper entry level ones for air rifles that started to pop up or if you want to go with expensive something like a Bauer (the ones a lot of diving and paintball places are likely to use if they go through a lot of air). Going with a commercial one, especially a brand that produces compressors certified for diving air with a qualified operator offers a lot more comfort to me. For airgun purposes I'd be content enough with having a good compressor and not worry too much about how breathable the air is considering it'll be used to push pellets out of a barrel. To legally produce breathing air in a lot of places you have to be certified, regularly get the compressor serviced and on a regular interval sample the air it produces this all makes sense when it's used for diving. But mainly what you'd get out of it for air rifle use is a compressor that is rated for the continuous use that happens when filling bottles/large tanks. You won't be forced to take breaks like you would be with this setup (or risk wearing out the pump seals early).
Electronicdawg There's some moisture absorbing stuff in there yes, but even when you're optimistic about its potential to remove moisture from air at ambient pressure after compressing it to the 200 bar that it reaches in your pump assembly and line to the rifle you will get some condensation. In the past I've used a Hatsan pump, but currently a Hill pump is my regular way to refill the rifle. The hatsan would produce enough moisture that I'd usually bleed it halfway to expel the moisture, the Hill pump does a little bit better with its absorption contraption but even after removal of moisture at ambient pressure some will be left to condense into liquid water.
Any moisture left in the pump will be expelled when you open the bleeder valve, open the valve as quickly as possible to expel the moisture. Any moisture in the gun will be expelled when you shoot it first few shots.
Electronicdawg When using it to fill a rifle, yes I'll agree that bleeding it after you're done filling up a single airgun is good enough in most climates. But if it's really humid you'll risk putting more moisture in than the moisture trap can handle properly. When it does end up in the cylinder of the gun I do wonder if it'll be out with the first few shots. But I guess overall this setup is pretty good, filling diving bottles or guns with a bigger reservoir should probably include some resting periods to let the pump cool (seals will easily cook running it at this speed for extended periods). Filling an entire rifle up without pausing will probably wear it out a bit faster than when taking the recommended breaks (heating up the internal seals) but the speed of the pump strokes is not too crazy like some other contraptions I've seen out there. Might need more frequent maintenance (mostly replacing a few oring seals) with some luck.
А я бы сделал себе такую штуковину, Качаю винт дома, Пусть и 30 мин. качает, куда торопиться то? Зато сил сколько сохранит. А баллон еще надо найти где заправлять, я живу в деревне, проблема с этим.
if charge my gun to about 190 bar with this pump, then take the hose out, then try and complete the charge to say 200 bar, at a later time, it gets to about 25 bar, and starts to leak air from where it goes into the gun! whats that all about. ? and this all new stuff.
Como lo puedo adquirir esta bomba, si solo ensamblablan en el Brasil, y en mi pais peru, no vende ninguna tienda de importación , son unos torpes , por que en mi pais miles de aficionados a la carbina pcp quieren comprar y nadie vende
this is a very expensive way to fill a gun the scuba is much more reasonable.this is out of reach for most folks unless they are an electrician and can wire up pumps and controls.
Я б лучше с балоном высокого давления заморочился... Я всё понимаю, меня тоже уже заимело насосом работать, чтобы винтовку "надуть", но городить такое - это ИМХО перебор. Во первых этот "качок" будет надувать минут 30 (т.к. шток насоса вытягивает не полностью, чтобы воздуху побольше набрать), а во вторых такую дуру с собой на природу всё равно не возьмёшь. По этому смысла в ней 0. Хотя за саму идею + .
Ну так кто мешает балон накачивать, а не не винтарь? Только вот надо с таймерами заморачиваться, либо с принудительным охлаждением, вряд ли хилл выживет после непрерывной накачки 9л балона к примеру. 1л приблизительно 1000 полных качков. Точно сдохнет от перегрева. Надо чувачку подкинуть идею запаралелить пару, а лучше 4 насоса на автомат, тем более двигун шаговый и вполне потянет.
с балоном тоже морока не мала,сам балон то купить не проблема за чирик можно семёрочку раздобыть,но вопрос где и у кого задувать если среди пожарных у меня нет знакомых,есть магазины в москве оружейные которые запрявляют,заправка 400 руб по сути херня,но ездить из подмосковья в москву с балоном в сумке я на хую видел такие покатушки,у меня свой дом,мне проще, я лучше такую же надувалку сделаю из своего борнера,тем более что у меня подобный редуктор есть и сам я сварщик и сделать такую надувалка, мне раз плюнуть.А качает он с такой же скоростью что и человек,не надо говорить про неполное вытяжку штока,если бы сжатие шло бы сразу при опускании то тогда да я согласен,а в насосе сжатие идёт на последних -20-25 сантимертах,так что неполная вытяжка это не очём не говорит и накачает это устройство с такой же скоростью,как ты сам качал бы
Very nice machine.
I have the impression that the compression stroke is not being fully used, this does not give heating problem since it must pump more often to play the volume of air needed to complete the tank rifle PCP?
muy bueno tu invento...donde conseguiste el reductor ?gracias
Super Idee! Wo kann ich die Instructions finden? Ja, mein Deutsch ist nich so gut. If you have any instructions about how how to build such a device, please let me know.
Hola muy bueno el vídeo consulta de q es el motor y la reducción soy de argentina?
I mean when you start to pump and try and build up to where the last ended it leaks at about 25 bar. Also just how correct is the guage on this pump?
Ik ben trouwens benieuwd naar de drukmeter gedurende het pompen/filmen.
Kun je specs online zetten van de motor en frequentiekast die je gebruikt hebt?
Świetny pomysł !!!..Pozdrawiam...
Hi, very nice! Everytime I see your creation I think: what is the power rating of the motor being used..?
200W or so?
Aren't you supposed to rest the pump after 5 minutes of pumping to keep from burning the seals up?
Electronicdawg The video was less than 4 min. long!
Hola muy bueno el vídeo consulta que motor es y la reducción soy de argentina 🇦🇷
Hello! What kind of motor is that?
Qual o modelo desse redutor
Do you have a blueprints from this? Avez-vous un des plans de cela?heb je hier misschien een schema voor?
How many HP is the motor? Thanks.
Super Idee!!!
how much would u sell one for
Hello I really like your system. Can you kindly tell me the characteristics of the engine and gearbox? You know Tell me where can I buy it? Thanks
Hi its "homemade" ?¿?¿ ...,can i buy it?¿, thanks
Nice! How about sourcing a dual drive/double shaft motor to handle a 2nd pump!?! (Would be ideal for those with more guns or spare tanks!) Also... for those of you posting that the price of the motor makes this cost prohibitive... there are ways to source motors without paying retail! PLUS a simple Craigslist Ad (mentioning you fill paintball tanks!) would offset the cost & eventually turn a profit!
а что за редуктор с движком???
where can i buy it please
but what ever someone likes its not up to me,but i would never do such thing.but it is very creative i still like it...
Good day , how do you solve the problem of condensation as air dry
+василий долдин I'm guessing the usual way, indoor air which in most houses tends to be less humid than outdoor. In addition to that pausing and bleeding every now and then depending on what is appropriate for his environment and the moisture trap of the pump.
It won't get rid of all the condensation but considering that's the method used when pumping normally it's as good as you can use it with that setup, I am slightly concerned though with one thing using this method and that's heat. When pumping manually you can easily overheat the seals within a few minutes, it may seem like a great solution and yes you don't have to pump it yourself but the pump will still get the same heat buildup.
Because of that unless you already have the pump and happen to know someone who can build such a thing or you can do it yourself it's probably not financially viable. You're likely better off looking for a commercially mass produced air compressor either the cheaper entry level ones for air rifles that started to pop up or if you want to go with expensive something like a Bauer (the ones a lot of diving and paintball places are likely to use if they go through a lot of air).
Going with a commercial one, especially a brand that produces compressors certified for diving air with a qualified operator offers a lot more comfort to me. For airgun purposes I'd be content enough with having a good compressor and not worry too much about how breathable the air is considering it'll be used to push pellets out of a barrel. To legally produce breathing air in a lot of places you have to be certified, regularly get the compressor serviced and on a regular interval sample the air it produces this all makes sense when it's used for diving. But mainly what you'd get out of it for air rifle use is a compressor that is rated for the continuous use that happens when filling bottles/large tanks. You won't be forced to take breaks like you would be with this setup (or risk wearing out the pump seals early).
The air dryer is built into the handle.
Electronicdawg There's some moisture absorbing stuff in there yes, but even when you're optimistic about its potential to remove moisture from air at ambient pressure after compressing it to the 200 bar that it reaches in your pump assembly and line to the rifle you will get some condensation.
In the past I've used a Hatsan pump, but currently a Hill pump is my regular way to refill the rifle. The hatsan would produce enough moisture that I'd usually bleed it halfway to expel the moisture, the Hill pump does a little bit better with its absorption contraption but even after removal of moisture at ambient pressure some will be left to condense into liquid water.
Any moisture left in the pump will be expelled when you open the bleeder valve, open the valve as quickly as possible to expel the moisture. Any moisture in the gun will be expelled when you shoot it first few shots.
Electronicdawg
When using it to fill a rifle, yes I'll agree that bleeding it after you're done filling up a single airgun is good enough in most climates. But if it's really humid you'll risk putting more moisture in than the moisture trap can handle properly.
When it does end up in the cylinder of the gun I do wonder if it'll be out with the first few shots.
But I guess overall this setup is pretty good, filling diving bottles or guns with a bigger reservoir should probably include some resting periods to let the pump cool (seals will easily cook running it at this speed for extended periods).
Filling an entire rifle up without pausing will probably wear it out a bit faster than when taking the recommended breaks (heating up the internal seals) but the speed of the pump strokes is not too crazy like some other contraptions I've seen out there. Might need more frequent maintenance (mostly replacing a few oring seals) with some luck.
Origineel bedacht bravo!
Einstein, is that you ?
its nice i give you that but im three blocks from the dive shop +scuba=goodtimes
А я бы сделал себе такую штуковину, Качаю винт дома, Пусть и 30 мин. качает, куда торопиться то? Зато сил сколько сохранит. А баллон еще надо найти где заправлять, я живу в деревне, проблема с этим.
Short arm, nice solution for low torque motor...
thats super awesome!
что за редуктор стоит а то руки уже отваливаются насосом работать
the motor alone id hate to pay for they are very expensive.then for the fiberglass control box u spend more for that stuff than 2 guns!
ЛЕНЬ двигатель прогресса))
Руками качать вспотеешь🤣
@@АндрейНео-н2ы боже мой, я этот комент 9лет назад оставил
Would you want do the same one and sell it for me?
it's practical but tedious and less convenient that's all. i would love to have this rather than going to the dive shop for refills.
mohon informasinya boss, kira2 harga berapa
if charge my gun to about 190 bar with this pump, then take the hose out, then try and complete the charge to say 200 bar, at a later time, it gets to about 25 bar, and starts to leak air from where it goes into the gun! whats that all about. ? and this all new stuff.
I want one!!!
Como lo puedo adquirir esta bomba, si solo ensamblablan en el Brasil, y en mi pais peru, no vende ninguna tienda de importación , son unos torpes , por que en mi pais miles de aficionados a la carbina pcp quieren comprar y nadie vende
I'd need a timer on mine.
güzel bir pompa olmuş
это гениально)))
this is a very expensive way to fill a gun the scuba is much more reasonable.this is out of reach for most folks unless they are an electrician and can wire up pumps and controls.
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Я б лучше с балоном высокого давления заморочился... Я всё понимаю, меня тоже уже заимело насосом работать, чтобы винтовку "надуть", но городить такое - это ИМХО перебор. Во первых этот "качок" будет надувать минут 30 (т.к. шток насоса вытягивает не полностью, чтобы воздуху побольше набрать), а во вторых такую дуру с собой на природу всё равно не возьмёшь. По этому смысла в ней 0. Хотя за саму идею + .
Ну так кто мешает балон накачивать, а не не винтарь?
Только вот надо с таймерами заморачиваться, либо с принудительным охлаждением, вряд ли хилл выживет после непрерывной накачки 9л балона к примеру. 1л приблизительно 1000 полных качков. Точно сдохнет от перегрева.
Надо чувачку подкинуть идею запаралелить пару, а лучше 4 насоса на автомат, тем более двигун шаговый и вполне потянет.
Обшибся, не шаговый, но редуктор выглядит неплохо, даже не напрягается, так что идея в силе.
с балоном тоже морока не мала,сам балон то купить не проблема за чирик можно семёрочку раздобыть,но вопрос где и у кого задувать если среди пожарных у меня нет знакомых,есть магазины в москве оружейные которые запрявляют,заправка 400 руб по сути херня,но ездить из подмосковья в москву с балоном в сумке я на хую видел такие покатушки,у меня свой дом,мне проще, я лучше такую же надувалку сделаю из своего борнера,тем более что у меня подобный редуктор есть и сам я сварщик и сделать такую надувалка, мне раз плюнуть.А качает он с такой же скоростью что и человек,не надо говорить про неполное вытяжку штока,если бы сжатие шло бы сразу при опускании то тогда да я согласен,а в насосе сжатие идёт на последних -20-25 сантимертах,так что неполная вытяжка это не очём не говорит и накачает это устройство с такой же скоростью,как ты сам качал бы
check the prices just on the motor its not practical......
dude, take the pump and 4 in parallel blocked. will inflate balloons, not rifles.
I have a tank full of Air.
Лентяи ;-) Респект!
great idea just not practical
Ale kicha