I’m a plasterer with over 20 years experience and this is exactly how I do repairs on L&P walls and ceilings. P.S THANKS for the advice on the concealed hinges Peter
Good repair, lathe and plaster and lime plaster in general is the bane of my life. I'm not proud of this but I once stabilised a whole lathe and plaster wall with expanding foam. A decade later it's still going great.
Surely that beautiful straight edge should be in a dust free glass display cabinet! Good use of the PU adhesive and a really good result. Thanks for the ideas.
Hello cousin Peter! Hope all is well on your side of the pond. I quite enjoyed watching this particular DIY video. On this side of the pond they would have instructed to tear everything out except the front door then build up around it. Take care my friend.
I'm in the process of tearing down a lathe and plaster bedroom wall and reboarding it, this is bedroom 3! Made more sense when I weighed up all the patching work required! ...wish me luck!
My Victorian House is full of Lath & blown plaster. It nice to see its not just my house. I am thinking of plaster boarding over the whole lot walls and Ceiling. But great video if I need to do a small repair. Thanks
Hi Peter. Thanks for the really instructional video. I will take the unspoken credit for inspiring you with my question to the podcast last year. ;) I still have lots of this exact thing to do, which I have been putting off thanks to Andy's doom-mongering around the mess it would make.
Ah, thank you! I spoke to Andy today, and neither of us could put our hands on who asked the question! Without your question I wouldn’t have looked at the video, or thought about how it could be done, so thanks very much - and Imm happy to day it works! 😂👍👍
👍👍👍👍 Jobs for Mrs 10 Minutes, go for it. BTW doesn't hurt to put some fibres in the first fill, poly fibres for concrete works well and it's cheap or larger areas the glass mesh. Best of all a happy Mrs10M😇😇😇
I had to do a similar repair and it came out pretty nice. Surprised myself. I had other work done later in the room and the guy working on the wall said he could see my repair. Too bad my repair was on the opposite wall and the one he was working on was the original wall. But I agreed it looked like someone botched it. I would really like to see more of the DIY work you do. It's always nice to see someone else's approach. Well done.
Yes please Peter on similar videos, this was very interesting. Knew nothing about that type of wall. Never heard of the product you use have a couple of jobs that will use that.
Nicely done! That old wood lath can be difficult to cover evenly. I have never seen the idea of injecting glue to hold the plaster against the lath. Seemed to work well. Thanks Peter!
Plastering is always one of those things I've never considered because it always seemed easier to mess up than get right. You made it seem way less terrifying.
Peter Millard yes but you know what I mean. You see those pro plasterer guys on TH-cam or site and they’re doing that ‘ching ching ching’ thing with the trowels and floats and get it perfect. Anytime I see that I think if I tried that it would look like a ploughed field. Probably with hair in it 🤣
Pretty close to what I do at work Peter. I put polythene under the washers though, because I don't like to have any kind of impact on lath and plaster, every bang risks breaking off another key/nib somewhere. Most times these days I just brace the area using long 'quick adjustable poles' and bits of scrap wood instead of screws and washers (definitely need polythene then, or you'd never get the wood off lol!). All the best for 2022 :-)
Excellent Video thanks Peter. I did this repair on the ceiling and slanted wall in the under stairs convenience. Absolutely rock solid but my plastering skills leave a lot to be desired!! Pu adhesive was a awesome bit of kit but made a mess and I would definitely recommend gloves!
years ago before pu adhesive I used to drill holes and then squirt in high expanding foam to stabilise the wall before repairs, you gotta love that sticky stuff
These types of videos here and there break the monotony, {I think}. 👌🏽 Nicely repaired, mate, even if it was a quick and dirty fix. A definite 100% improvement. 👍🏽
Thanks Peter for another great video, yes I’d like to see your other home diy challenges working for other people you never seam to want to do your own as the saying goes “I’ll get round to it one day” Once again good content and thoroughly entertaining cheers.
Watching you work reminds me of my first head chef. He could do a days graft of 300+ covers and still have the ironed creases in his pants. I on the other hand can do half as many and look like a testing menu.
Excellent use of the amazing lumberjack pu glue, screws and washers ( without impact driver 😂) .... used lumberjack glue in similar situation with water damage ceiling.... bonded the extra slats between underside joist and ceiling board ... screw & washer combo then saved the day .... filler // sand // paint = happy outlaws ... oh don’t worry about the 50 steaming keyboarders.... long as Mrs 10 Minutes is happy then what matters..... 👍
Here, across the pond, apparently we have very similar technology, many houses from that era suffering the same fate. As a Home Inspector for buyers, this is something I know a thing or two about. The plaster never did and was not intended to bond to the lathes. It was pressed through them and curled around the back, forming "keys". The lathes expand and contract with seasonal changes in humidity and the plaster loses whatever grip it might have had and the keys hold it in place. Over time they fail and break off, especially on ceilings. Some people use the repair washers and then plaster over them. Some people rip out the loose plaster, leaving the lathes, and drywall over them or use drywall to make patches. They glue and screw it to the lathes. There is even a fiberglass reinforced type of drywall (blueboard) made to screw over the existing plaster. The problem is, if you cover a lot of area you add a LOT of weight to the house and may cause settling. I'll stop now. You did a good job.
It’s always an education watching your working methods Peter, so thanks for filming the process! Also, well worth reading through the comments for other experts suggestions 👍 I didn’t spot the level you used in the list, it looks a quality piece of kit!?
Thanks Dave! My mistake re the level - I’ll sort that out tomorrow. It’s be Superior Levels, their new Evo range- see video #358 for more info th-cam.com/video/JbHadWFBPSM/w-d-xo.html - sorry, but the giveaway has finished, just FYI. 👍👍
Nice job complete there Peter, Had a similar job on an old kitchen outside wall but I used expanding foam judiciously worked really well and warmed up the wall no end :)
Nice job - brings back dark memories for me. My first house was turn of the century and every room in the house was a nightmare when it came to decorating, be it steaming and scraping off 6 or 7 layers of wallpaper all nicely sealed with 'anaglypta', or patch repairing walls - but some were beyond that as the plasterwork just crumbled to the floor. The missus would say - how long do you think this room will take - about 2 weeks but only after we have repaired whatever SNAFUs we uncover.
Great job peter. Think expanding foam would have done job. I have fitted all my interior door linings in my 100 yr old bungalow with expanding foam as bricks were loose when taking out old linings. Plus used expanding foam to do same repairs as yourself. 👋👌
Peter, I wish the internet had been around 25 years ago when I had this exact problem. When tapping the wall it sounds like a hollow drum as the plaster has lifted away from the wall.
Wish you had done this a couple of weeks ago. I was looking for a suitable alternative for the Wickes brand ready mixed patching plaster which doesn't seem to be available any more. Looks like Easyfill was what I needed. Even after days of filling and sanding my (badly) plastered walls still looked rough, so in desperation I painted them matt white with a coarse masonry roller sleeve. The slightly textured surface helps to disguise the imperfections...at least that's what I tell myself.
Nice job Peter, I had some decorators using BG easifill 60 on a victorian wall and the results were fine - a strong light is the other essential tool worth mentioning
I did the same with a ceiling. Injected PVA but gave up with the idea. No PU used and just used loads of screws directly through the plaster and left them in before filling.
One thing I do not miss at all is lathe and plaster walls. I've repaired way too many of those (for someone who is not in the business). Plaster over brick is annoying, but compared to "you looked at it, now it's falling off the wall"... nup.
You mean the Doctor could have fixed that crack in time with some glue and a few screws, Who new 🤪. I am glad I don’t live in a place old enough to have plaster and lathe. Nice tutorial and nice looking repair👍
Do you think using a hybrid polymer adhesive like Stixall would work great for long-lasting results? Have a ceiling with some light cracking and figured if a sealant that breaks everything else before it breaks would probably work great at resisting future lath expansion etc.
Probably - but the reason I used PU was that it foams up a little before setting , making it good for blown plaster. You might have to pump in a fair bit more polymer adhesive to be sure you get a good fix. 👍👍
@@10MinuteWorkshop Gave it a try. Boy, that sucked. Doing it on a ceiling is annoying with all the crap falling down onto your face, and shoddy laths that quickly lose thread on the washers, etc.
So I ended up switching to Pinkgrip solvent free. Main reason is I have a ton of holes to do over the whole ceiling (it's not completely blown, just come loose and pushes up a little in places due to how old it is). Since I'm up here I may as well as do it right so the cracks don't come back even if I'm going to lining paper it after. Anyway, after going through the tube of stixall fairly quickly I realised I would need something good enough but cost effective. Looked at your PU glue but that's like £7 a tube and even if it expands a little I'd probably be buying a fair bit, whereas Pinkgrip is less than £3 a tube for a lot of it! Just hope that the Pinkgrip will actually do the job as well! Any experience with that particular adhesive?
For what it's worth, I looked up how well PU adhesive does with gaps, and it seems incredibly poorly - no strength at all as it just ends up air bubbles. So I guess in the case of a ceiling it's probably better to go with dedicated gap filler adhesives after all.
A word of warning sanding old lath and plaster - it used to be made with horsehair and could contain anthrax spores. Facemasks are a must. Also, it is not always the plaster that separates from the laths, but the iron nails holding the lathes to the beams rusting through and the laths springing off the wall.
Good job with some interesting ideas. If you want a truly flat wall I believe you have to demolish the house and start again* and even then it isn't guaranteed so fairly flat is good enough.
@@10MinuteWorkshop various ways, would probably remove more material, then use a thin bit of plaster board or backing plaster, then skim. I have use a similar method to yours with expanding foam though for small areas. No real right or wrong way, the result that matters.
A lot will depend on the extractor, and I don't think any sander/extractor combo can really catch 'all' the dust, but yes, the dust collection on this is very very good. 👍
I've got Edwardian plaster and lathe walls that chunks of plaster has fallen off. Do you have any advice to repair these holes. Unfortunately replacing the walls or totally replastering isn't an option at present. Thanks
How is it your clothes still look clean are they Teflon coated. I had to repair a lath and plaster ceiling where my apprentice had put his foot through it when his foot slipped. I used one coat plaster and when I had finished you couldn’t see the repair. I was taught to use a good smoothing trowel with a splash of water to help polish the plaster.
Phillips screws i hope 🤣 andy would be impressed On another note i once did a similar repair in a local hotel still there to this day only 14 years ago🤣
Great repair never seen that done before - but I would of thought just quickly taking down the old plaster then plaster boarding it up and a skim would be just as quick and a better solution? Although cost materials more
Occupied room in an occupied house - couldn’t take the mess of 130+ years of much & rubbish! Also there are some high-level fitted shelves on these walls, and I wouldn’t want to mess them up.
Peter Millard ahh fair Peter recently had a similar issue at my property and just knocked it all back to L&P but might try this solution if in an awkward place bound to create problems with furnishings etc
could you list your products under your video so we know what to buy? I know what PVA is but not sure what filler you used. Wood filler in plaster holes?
Thanks for taking the time to comment. All products used are listed in the "Used/featured in this video" section in the video description. At 6.51 I say "I'm using a product called EasyFill, it's a bit like a cross between a plaster and filler, and is used a lot here as a drywall compound or 'mud' as our American cousins might call it..." and links are provided to this, and everything else used. 👍
Everything I've read about the ctl not working properly on forums talks about sanding plaster. Could that be the reason for the funny noise you were getting? Don't know why it's only on the auto start though.
The Godfather of the quick fix. Always exactly what I need when I just want to get it done without a giant drama. Thank you
Yes please, Peter. I would like to see your other DIY work. While I'm watching it I can put off all my own DIY! 👍
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I’m a plasterer with over 20 years experience and this is exactly how I do repairs on L&P walls and ceilings.
P.S THANKS for the advice on the concealed hinges Peter
Ah, that’s really good to know, thanks! And glad to hear the hinge advice helped! 👍👍
I was about to ask can the same be done on ceilings, as I have a few spots to do, so thanks. Very good instructional video Peter 👌
Please show all your jobs. It's always very useful.
Thanks for all your good videos.
As a Londoner myself with a 1920's house this reminds me of a job I did on one of my walls . Well done Peter nice finish as well
Thanks! 👍👍
Great tutorial. I have done this myself and following this saves you from learning the hard way. Well done
Well done Peter. It gives me great pleasure to watch your facial expressions when you do jobs you don’t relish!
Haha, something I have little/no control over! 😂👍👍🤷♂️
Have a lot of these jobs myself, but I believe strongly that you can always learn something by watching other people!
Thanks! 👍👍
Good repair, lathe and plaster and lime plaster in general is the bane of my life. I'm not proud of this but I once stabilised a whole lathe and plaster wall with expanding foam. A decade later it's still going great.
Haha, yes, I wondered about expanding foam, but figured PU was a little more predictable... 🤷♂️👍
Well done!! This was great!
Loving the '10 minute workshop' title - a nice size bite... Thank you for sharing!
Im a plasterer not a skimmer. I always enjoy seeing non plasterers approach to dealing with plaster. This gentlemen did a good job.
Thank you! Very much appreciated; I’m just happy when it stays on the wall! 😂👍
Surely that beautiful straight edge should be in a dust free glass display cabinet! Good use of the PU adhesive and a really good result. Thanks for the ideas.
Pah! Every working tool - has to earn its keep! 😂👍
Nice level. Never seen one like that.?
That one’s an Evo level from Superior Levels - see video #358 (give-away is finished, but the info’s good)👍
@@10MinuteWorkshop Thanks for the info. 👍
Always good to see how others approach their DIY tasks, no problem with being “off-topic from my POV” - bring them on!
Thanks! 👍👍
you are such a gentleman artsman .....greetings to you from Bavaria in Germany.
Thank you! And greetings from London! 👍
Yes Peter definitely would like to see. Always good to see how you tackle different tasks.
Thanks! 👍👍
Surprisingly helpful, particularly as I too live in a Victorian house, with some very dodgy plaster issues. Thanks, Peter.
Cheers Greg! Best of luck with your walls! 👍👍
Hello cousin Peter! Hope all is well on your side of the pond. I quite enjoyed watching this particular DIY video. On this side of the pond they would have instructed to tear everything out except the front door then build up around it. Take care my friend.
It crossed my mind! 😂 Best wishes from London. 👍
We have an 1869 home in Southern Indiana. Lots of plaster. This was handy to know. Thanks.
Brilliant job, I'll watch anything from you and home DIY even more so.
Great, thanks! 👍👍
quick and easy fixe Peter looking forward to see the rest off the video.
Thanks! 👍
Really useful and easy to understand. Thanks, looking forward to more tips!
I'm in the process of tearing down a lathe and plaster bedroom wall and reboarding it, this is bedroom 3! Made more sense when I weighed up all the patching work required! ...wish me luck!
Good luck! Yes I agree - full strip out and re-board is beat, but wasn’t going to happen with this one! 🤷♂️👍
Nice one Peter. I found it interesting! Please keep them coming.
Thanks Richard! Will do! 👍👍
Well Mr Millard, that's the most technical bodge I've seen in ages and a fine one it was 👍
Haha, thanks! I do like a technical bodge! 😂👍
I don’t miss these types of jobs! 😂
Enjoy your weekend Peter.
Thanks Thomas! 👍
Any DIY job around the house is worth watching. Yes please others videos like this would be great.
Thanks! Will do! 👍
happy to watch anything woodworking or DIY we are all here to learn
Thanks! 👍
Loving these DIY home fixes, keep the coming Peter really would enjoy this.
Thanks, glad to hear it! There’s a few more of these to come along the way. 👍👍
Nice repair! I enjoyed watching it. Please post more home DIY work.
Thanks, will do! 👍👍
My Victorian House is full of Lath & blown plaster. It nice to see its not just my house. I am thinking of plaster boarding over the whole lot walls and Ceiling. But great video if I need to do a small repair. Thanks
Yes, that’s one option - find the studs and board over. You can hit snags at doorways /linings though. 👍👍
Hi Peter. Thanks for the really instructional video. I will take the unspoken credit for inspiring you with my question to the podcast last year. ;) I still have lots of this exact thing to do, which I have been putting off thanks to Andy's doom-mongering around the mess it would make.
Ah, thank you! I spoke to Andy today, and neither of us could put our hands on who asked the question! Without your question I wouldn’t have looked at the video, or thought about how it could be done, so thanks very much - and Imm happy to day it works! 😂👍👍
👍👍👍👍 Jobs for Mrs 10 Minutes, go for it.
BTW doesn't hurt to put some fibres in the first fill, poly fibres for concrete works well and it's cheap or larger areas the glass mesh. Best of all a happy Mrs10M😇😇😇
Thanks Clive, good tip re the fibres! 👍👍
Enjoyed video. Great to see someone else besides me doing this kind of stuff.
Thank you! 👍
I had to do a similar repair and it came out pretty nice. Surprised myself. I had other work done later in the room and the guy working on the wall said he could see my repair. Too bad my repair was on the opposite wall and the one he was working on was the original wall. But I agreed it looked like someone botched it. I would really like to see more of the DIY work you do. It's always nice to see someone else's approach. Well done.
Thanks Jim! 👍👍
Very well done Peter , our own houses are always last on the to do list .
Thanks Pat! And yes, always! 👍👍
What a great idea on bonding the lathes to the plaster. Thanks for posting 👍🏻
Thanks Mike! 👍👍
If you like this, Tom Silva from This Old House did a much longer and detailed video on this method some years ago.
Should be easy to find.
Yes please Peter on similar videos, this was very interesting. Knew nothing about that type of wall. Never heard of the product you use have a couple of jobs that will use that.
Thanks! I’ve dealt with this kind of wall all too often! 🤷♂️👍
Nicely done! That old wood lath can be difficult to cover evenly. I have never seen the idea of injecting glue to hold the plaster against the lath. Seemed to work well. Thanks Peter!
Yes, I thought the inevitable dust would be the issue, but it seemed to grab pretty well. 👍
Plastering is always one of those things I've never considered because it always seemed easier to mess up than get right. You made it seem way less terrifying.
Thanks! To be honest, this is more like glorified filling, with a lot,of sanding! 😂👍👍
Peter Millard yes but you know what I mean. You see those pro plasterer guys on TH-cam or site and they’re doing that ‘ching ching ching’ thing with the trowels and floats and get it perfect. Anytime I see that I think if I tried that it would look like a ploughed field. Probably with hair in it 🤣
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Yes please, it is good to see other people have similar challenges. 👍👍
Thanks! 👍👍
Easy peasy, Peter! Excellent and informative. Have a good weekend!
Thanks Alasdair! 👍
Yes! more please :) Great tip with the holes & tile bit!
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Pretty close to what I do at work Peter. I put polythene under the washers though, because I don't like to have any kind of impact on lath and plaster, every bang risks breaking off another key/nib somewhere.
Most times these days I just brace the area using long 'quick adjustable poles' and bits of scrap wood instead of screws and washers (definitely need polythene then, or you'd never get the wood off lol!).
All the best for 2022 :-)
Excellent Video thanks Peter. I did this repair on the ceiling and slanted wall in the under stairs convenience. Absolutely rock solid but my plastering skills leave a lot to be desired!! Pu adhesive was a awesome bit of kit but made a mess and I would definitely recommend gloves!
Cheers Aby! Yes, PU is amazing stuff, but horrible on hands! 👍👍
years ago before pu adhesive I used to drill holes and then squirt in high expanding foam to stabilise the wall before repairs, you gotta love that sticky stuff
Always! I think PU is a bit more more controlled - or maybe expanding foam is less controlled, lol! 👍👍
Fantastic logical job!!
Lathe and plaster, one of worst remnants of building practice in history!
Thumbs up.
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These types of videos here and there break the monotony, {I think}. 👌🏽
Nicely repaired, mate, even if it was a quick and dirty fix.
A definite 100% improvement. 👍🏽
Just what I've been up to this week Bill, so thought I'd share the technique, as it worked! 😂👍
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Turns out to be a win, win!
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A fine finish sponge float is perfect for blending repairs like this. Often times you don’t need to sand.
I am a *big* fan of this DIY-style video. Record away!
Thanks Frank! 👍👍
Thanks Peter for another great video, yes I’d like to see your other home diy challenges working for other people you never seam to want to do your own as the saying goes “I’ll get round to it one day” Once again good content and thoroughly entertaining cheers.
Thanks Phil! 👍👍
Interesting change of topic Peter. I enjoy your videos very much whatever the topic so more please.
Regards
Thanks Mike! 👍
Very interesting, nice to see a mix up in the usual videos.
Thanks! 👍👍
Nice job and yes, do show us some other DIY work.
Thanks, will do! 👍
Nice little repair Peter,hope you decide to post more of your home repair work!👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍
Cheers Alan! There may be one or two other bridges in the horizon, yes! 😆👍😂😂
Love this stuff from a perfectionist like you. Keep it coming.
Thanks! 👍
Yes definitely more DIY videos Peter! 👍
Watching you work reminds me of my first head chef.
He could do a days graft of 300+ covers and still have the ironed creases in his pants.
I on the other hand can do half as many and look like a testing menu.
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That was a timely video Peter, I was wondering what to use to patch up around a door frame I've replaced. Will have a look for some Easy On locally.
Or Easyfill, does the job nicely. And thanks! 👍
Excellent use of the amazing lumberjack pu glue, screws and washers ( without impact driver 😂) .... used lumberjack glue in similar situation with water damage ceiling.... bonded the extra slats between underside joist and ceiling board ... screw & washer combo then saved the day .... filler // sand // paint = happy outlaws ... oh don’t worry about the 50 steaming keyboarders.... long as Mrs 10 Minutes is happy then what matters..... 👍
Haha! Yes, indeed! Love that LumberJack PU adhesive - so useful for this kind of thing, and a lot easier to predict (and set) then expanding foam! 👍
Peter Millard .. yep expanding foam has its own mind lol ... even with foam gun ... PU is the way forward for lots of projects...
DIY is always interesting and I like to see how you fix things.
Thanks Frits! 👍
Go for it Peter I an always happy to pickup hints and tips for my own DIY. :-)
Cheers Paul!
keep on keeping on , enjoying your content whatever it is, away's done well.
Thank you! 👍
thanks Pete.very helpful
Here, across the pond, apparently we have very similar technology, many houses from that era suffering the same fate. As a Home Inspector for buyers, this is something I know a thing or two about. The plaster never did and was not intended to bond to the lathes. It was pressed through them and curled around the back, forming "keys". The lathes expand and contract with seasonal changes in humidity and the plaster loses whatever grip it might have had and the keys hold it in place. Over time they fail and break off, especially on ceilings. Some people use the repair washers and then plaster over them. Some people rip out the loose plaster, leaving the lathes, and drywall over them or use drywall to make patches. They glue and screw it to the lathes. There is even a fiberglass reinforced type of drywall (blueboard) made to screw over the existing plaster. The problem is, if you cover a lot of area you add a LOT of weight to the house and may cause settling. I'll stop now. You did a good job.
You should wear a respirator during your sanding, even if you have a great and efficient vacuum the sanding produces fine dust which is harmfull.
It’s always an education watching your working methods Peter, so thanks for filming the process!
Also, well worth reading through the comments for other experts suggestions 👍
I didn’t spot the level you used in the list, it looks a quality piece of kit!?
Thanks Dave! My mistake re the level - I’ll sort that out tomorrow. It’s be Superior Levels, their new Evo range- see video #358 for more info th-cam.com/video/JbHadWFBPSM/w-d-xo.html - sorry, but the giveaway has finished, just FYI. 👍👍
I do like the quilts your OH is making. My brothers partner makes quilts out of crochet hexagonals.
Thanks! I’ll be sure to tell her 👍👍
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Nice job complete there Peter, Had a similar job on an old kitchen outside wall but I used expanding foam judiciously worked really well and warmed up the wall no end :)
Thanks Graham! Ooo, hadn’t thought of the insulating properties of the foam! 👍👍
Nice job - brings back dark memories for me. My first house was turn of the century and every room in the house was a nightmare when it came to decorating, be it steaming and scraping off 6 or 7 layers of wallpaper all nicely sealed with 'anaglypta', or patch repairing walls - but some were beyond that as the plasterwork just crumbled to the floor. The missus would say - how long do you think this room will take - about 2 weeks but only after we have repaired whatever SNAFUs we uncover.
Thanks Norman. Ah, yes - I know that kind of wall all too well! Glad they’re (mostly) begins us now!
Very cool, always enjoy your videos. :) Festool dust collection really works well for plaster dust.
Thanks! Yes, it’s very effective! 👍👍
I like the change now n then nice tips in there. Keep it up!!!
Thanks! 👍
Great job peter. Think expanding foam would have done job. I have fitted all my interior door linings in my 100 yr old bungalow with expanding foam as bricks were loose when taking out old linings. Plus used expanding foam to do same repairs as yourself. 👋👌
Yes, indeed; you need to be a bit more careful because it expands a long way - and takes longer to set, of course. Plus, I had some PU 🤷♂️👍.
Peter, I wish the internet had been around 25 years ago when I had this exact problem. When tapping the wall it sounds like a hollow drum as the plaster has lifted away from the wall.
That’s the one; don’t tap too hard! 😱👍
I like to watch things get fixed.
Would love to see more of your odds and ends jobs its interesteing to see how other people tackle different jobs.
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Wish you had done this a couple of weeks ago. I was looking for a suitable alternative for the Wickes brand ready mixed patching plaster which doesn't seem to be available any more. Looks like Easyfill was what I needed. Even after days of filling and sanding my (badly) plastered walls still looked rough, so in desperation I painted them matt white with a coarse masonry roller sleeve. The slightly textured surface helps to disguise the imperfections...at least that's what I tell myself.
Yep, always love a bit of 'roller rash' to hide the imperfections! 👍😆
@@10MinuteWorkshop I wonder if it works on the kind of razor rash you get shaving with a plane iron?
@@davidhull1610 My face after rinsing >> 😱
Nice job Peter, I had some decorators using BG easifill 60 on a victorian wall and the results were fine - a strong light is the other essential tool worth mentioning
Thanks Jeremy! Don’t know strong & light - I’ll check it out, thanks! 👍
I use that 5 minute glue alot very strong when used correctly. Used it on staircase builds and lots of structural stuff.
Thanks Chris! Yes, great stuff. 👍👍
I did the same with a ceiling. Injected PVA but gave up with the idea. No PU used and just used loads of screws directly through the plaster and left them in before filling.
Very interesting. Nice finish too. Puts my lath and plaster repairs to shame. More in a similar vein would be good.
Thanks Nico! 👍👍
Good stuff. It'd be funny if the "handy" man that did the last job watched this one. Cheers, David
Haha! It would A though I suspect they’re ling gone. 👍
I use dry liner ready mixed jointing compound for small jobs like that it sets quickly and it sands very well as it's designed to do
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One thing I do not miss at all is lathe and plaster walls. I've repaired way too many of those (for someone who is not in the business). Plaster over brick is annoying, but compared to "you looked at it, now it's falling off the wall"... nup.
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well done great job really enjoyed the video
Thanks! 👍
You mean the Doctor could have fixed that crack in time with some glue and a few screws, Who new 🤪. I am glad I don’t live in a place old enough to have plaster and lathe. Nice tutorial and nice looking repair👍
Well, he could have fixed it, but not wound back time 😂 Thanks, worked out OK, this one. 👍
Yes more please, and thank you.
Thanks! 👍👍
Do you think using a hybrid polymer adhesive like Stixall would work great for long-lasting results? Have a ceiling with some light cracking and figured if a sealant that breaks everything else before it breaks would probably work great at resisting future lath expansion etc.
Probably - but the reason I used PU was that it foams up a little before setting , making it good for blown plaster. You might have to pump in a fair bit more polymer adhesive to be sure you get a good fix. 👍👍
@@10MinuteWorkshop Gave it a try. Boy, that sucked. Doing it on a ceiling is annoying with all the crap falling down onto your face, and shoddy laths that quickly lose thread on the washers, etc.
So I ended up switching to Pinkgrip solvent free. Main reason is I have a ton of holes to do over the whole ceiling (it's not completely blown, just come loose and pushes up a little in places due to how old it is). Since I'm up here I may as well as do it right so the cracks don't come back even if I'm going to lining paper it after.
Anyway, after going through the tube of stixall fairly quickly I realised I would need something good enough but cost effective. Looked at your PU glue but that's like £7 a tube and even if it expands a little I'd probably be buying a fair bit, whereas Pinkgrip is less than £3 a tube for a lot of it!
Just hope that the Pinkgrip will actually do the job as well! Any experience with that particular adhesive?
For what it's worth, I looked up how well PU adhesive does with gaps, and it seems incredibly poorly - no strength at all as it just ends up air bubbles. So I guess in the case of a ceiling it's probably better to go with dedicated gap filler adhesives after all.
That was handy, thanks
A word of warning sanding old lath and plaster - it used to be made with horsehair and could contain anthrax spores. Facemasks are a must.
Also, it is not always the plaster that separates from the laths, but the iron nails holding the lathes to the beams rusting through and the laths springing off the wall.
Yes please Peter, I keep putting a dripping tap off, a video from you might give me a kick to sort it out.
Haha, I’ve been putting mine off for months! 👍
You can also use expanding foam instead of glue
It can expand a bit too much though. PU is a bit more predictable. 👍
Good job with some interesting ideas. If you want a truly flat wall I believe you have to demolish the house and start again* and even then it isn't guaranteed so fairly flat is good enough.
Very true! 👍
Haha...very nice. As a decorator it was a little different from my way but the results were good all the same. 👍👍
Thanks! How would you do it, out of interest? This was a kind of follow on from a question on the podcast, and I was keen to try out the approach! 👍👍
@@10MinuteWorkshop various ways, would probably remove more material, then use a thin bit of plaster board or backing plaster, then skim. I have use a similar method to yours with expanding foam though for small areas. No real right or wrong way, the result that matters.
Thanks! Just curious how the pro’s would do it! 👍👍
Does that Festool ETS 150 catch all the easi fill dust? I'm looking for a multipurpose sander that will be good for decorating. Cheers.
A lot will depend on the extractor, and I don't think any sander/extractor combo can really catch 'all' the dust, but yes, the dust collection on this is very very good. 👍
I've got Edwardian plaster and lathe walls that chunks of plaster has fallen off. Do you have any advice to repair these holes. Unfortunately replacing the walls or totally replastering isn't an option at present. Thanks
Thanks. This entire video is about that exact process, including links in the description to the products used. 👍
How is it your clothes still look clean are they Teflon coated. I had to repair a lath and plaster ceiling where my apprentice had put his foot through it when his foot slipped. I used one coat plaster and when I had finished you couldn’t see the repair. I was taught to use a good smoothing trowel with a splash of water to help polish the plaster.
Shirt was Ok, but theme trousers were filthy! 👍👍
Phillips screws i hope 🤣 andy would be impressed
On another note i once did a similar repair in a local hotel still there to this day only 14 years ago🤣
😂 Wow, not expecting this to lay that long! 🤔
Great repair never seen that done before - but I would of thought just quickly taking down the old plaster then plaster boarding it up and a skim would be just as quick and a better solution? Although cost materials more
Occupied room in an occupied house - couldn’t take the mess of 130+ years of much & rubbish! Also there are some high-level fitted shelves on these walls, and I wouldn’t want to mess them up.
Peter Millard ahh fair Peter recently had a similar issue at my property and just knocked it all back to L&P but might try this solution if in an awkward place bound to create problems with furnishings etc
Happy wife, happy life 🤷♂️👍👍
could you list your products under your video so we know what to buy? I know what PVA is but not sure what filler you used. Wood filler in plaster holes?
Thanks for taking the time to comment. All products used are listed in the "Used/featured in this video" section in the video description. At 6.51 I say "I'm using a product called EasyFill, it's a bit like a cross between a plaster and filler, and is used a lot here as a drywall compound or 'mud' as our American cousins might call it..." and links are provided to this, and everything else used. 👍
Everything I've read about the ctl not working properly on forums talks about sanding plaster. Could that be the reason for the funny noise you were getting? Don't know why it's only on the auto start though.
Possibly Matthew, yes. Odd that it’s intermittent though?? 🤷♂️👍