Guys the man with no enemies, I liked both, Japanese was really good when it came out, but then they released the dub I had low expectations for gohan but it ended up being amazing, both are good
@@ORION69722 No they shouldnt, and if they do its going to be someone who sounds like her. Theyre not going to change the voice of goku after 30+ years for you.
A raspy old woman voice? For the most underutilized and disappointing character in all of dragon ball outside of our boy Yamcha? C'mon now. He's an amazing writer and boundlessly creative, but wtf are you talking about?
If you choose and accept Jesus christ as lord and savior and son of god, and repent for your sins (verbal confession of your sins then acknowledge that sin is bad) then you will have nothing to fear because you will have the holy spirit which is more powerful then any demon. Even more powerful then the devil. Lord God Jesus christ right now I command every spirit of fear, doubt, unbelief, and worry, to leave them right now in Jesus name! Fill them with your holy spirit, amen.
Good thing is, Gohan learned it without piccolo teaching him, working on it in secret. Future Gohan could well have recreated this technique too. He was just never in a position to use it. Fighting two androids stronger than him. He probably hoped Trunks would get strong enough to help him fight to hold them off long enough to use it. But that day never came. Cause if he gets the opportunity, this would most def had killed if not one both androids of lined up right and with enough time. Also the factor can't sense them either.
That Dub scream was the type of scream from the deepest depths of a man's soul. In such a scream you can literally feel anger, rage, a man thats fed up to the highest possible degree of fed upism.
I loved both, honestly I always really like teen/adult gohans English voice actor. I thought he did a great job. I always remember when he was showing kabito ssj2 at the world tournament. Gave me goosebumps.
El doblaje inglés el horrible sobretodo con esos cambios de música y diálogos inventados en las peleas sin contar las exageraciones y las malas traducciones
how the hell is Masako still killing it like that in her mid 80s, what the fuck. it's 2024 and she is turning 88 this year, and she just finished recording her lines for the new DBZ game. Sean did 80 hours of VA work just for Goku, imagine what Masako is doing
I love the sub. The way Gohan said Makankosappo goes so hard. I had to made an edit of it because It does sound better and trust me I got an ear for stuff that sounds good
Only because you understand the words that make up "Special Beam Cannon". "Special Beam Cannon" is a lot better than "Demon's Penetrating, Killing Light Gun".
@@ivanzrno1765 That's not whining about a translation; that's pointing out a common bias. It's the same as people that get a kanji tattoo they think looks cool, but translates to "peaceful tofu" or something else silly.
I will always give props to the Japanese VAs in this series but as someone who grew up with the English dub from borderline infancy I cannot help but get chills and shed a tear of joy anytime I see these moments
The way he screams "cannon" with the echo gives me chills
Fr
Wtf
@@CellLeMagnifique wtf?
Facts
Exactly sub goku n gohan sound like little girls😂
"Both, both is good" 🗿
@@kristinelapple6580 sub sounds better imo. But both are still good
Nah it’s dub
@@jaidogsterplayz9326 they both sound good.
Guys the man with no enemies, I liked both, Japanese was really good when it came out, but then they released the dub I had low expectations for gohan but it ended up being amazing, both are good
@@Gibbiez your really saying “zankakowa” sounds better than “special beam cannon?”
“Makakankokasakapp…forget it, SPECIAL BEAM CANNON”
“He named it final flash wth” “you shouldn’t be talking mr. special beam cannon” slightly modified dbz abridged dialogue
I think you mean this th-cam.com/video/-wKmW6qCEWM/w-d-xo.html
beam cannon worst translation
Ma kanko sa cannon!!!
Dbz abridged reference nice
Dragon Ball is one of the rare shows that actually has a good dub.
No
Naaaaah
Goku vegeta dub voices are good
But the overall show nah
@@mohamedkhider6998tweaking. Beerus, whis, piccolo, king kai, gohan, krillin, bulma, broly, chichi, master roshi are all goated and clear sub
@@xxbggam3rxx421 Goated opinion
@@mohamedkhider6998 it’s better than any of the shows you watch that’s for sure
honestly yall gotta give the Japanese va of goku and gohan probs, shes in her 80's doing this, ALMOST in her 90s
No
We don't care at this point they should change voice actor
@@ORION69722 No they shouldnt, and if they do its going to be someone who sounds like her. Theyre not going to change the voice of goku after 30+ years for you.
No wonder they sound like little girls, reason why I could never stand watching the sub
Ill always watch this dubbed. No matter the props given...her voice just sounds so unpleasant when screaming.
Dub makes it sound much more dramatic, and I love it.
😅 ew
@@uniquerod52 🤓
@@uniquerod52 🤓
@@uniquerod52nigga can't even understand japenese 🤓
@@uniquerod52 🤓
The Crack in the voice when he says Sappoouuoooooo!, and Cannoooonnnnnn! Is everything.
No
@@Debbietosin4459Huh?!
@@Debbietosin4459Yes it is dude. You can hate all you want.
@@ThePinnacleofDivineFusions I'm not hating I'm just saying it's not that good. Dub is better
@@Debbietosin4459Oh my bad. I respect your opinion.
Dub made gohan sound like an actual beast definently the goat
no crap, masako is in her 80’s she cant scream that much bro
@@shaggy8453why a grandma voicing a male character
@@JayJenkins-oe7joexactly sub goku n gohan sound like little girls😂
@@shaggy8453well her ass needs to leave the booth 💀
@@corterfy😂
Akira knew who to choose for the voices. Thank you Akira for everything, you can now rest for all your hardwork
A raspy old woman voice? For the most underutilized and disappointing character in all of dragon ball outside of our boy Yamcha? C'mon now. He's an amazing writer and boundlessly creative, but wtf are you talking about?
@IgnobleLoki There is quite literally nobody better for goku and gohan's sub voice so wtf are YOU talking about
"Aah, So that's how uncle pronounces it"
-Pan
You mean Gramps.
@@jabrark5828fym gramps? piccolo is gohan’s best friend, not his dad. they’re only like 8 years apart.
@@ninjak_jeamm Very easy to forget how quickly Piccolo grew up.
Me putting it on repeat so the demons can be scared
😂😂 you need Jesus Christ for that.
If you choose and accept Jesus christ as lord and savior and son of god, and repent for your sins (verbal confession of your sins then acknowledge that sin is bad) then you will have nothing to fear because you will have the holy spirit which is more powerful then any demon. Even more powerful then the devil. Lord God Jesus christ right now I command every spirit of fear, doubt, unbelief, and worry, to leave them right now in Jesus name! Fill them with your holy spirit, amen.
@@reignellwalker9755ok
@@reignellwalker9755 bro what where jesus come from
@@reignellwalker9755Father is greater or are they equal?
DUB hit hard
ew
Dub is better
@@alnikkofernandez5333ew🤮
Sometimes sub is better some times dub is better yall saying eww like kids
You all stop fighting both are great
He made "Special Beam Cannon" sound cool.
Hats off to you my good sir
Welcome to Japan.
@@jabrark5828 "he" made not "she"
@@kmidu4137 yah but I mean that Japan historically makes really dumb attack names sound cool. We're just playing catch up.
@@jabrark5828 xd
Special beam canon is the dumbest technique name i've heard in DB. Nothing beats piccolo's makankosappo @@jabrark5828
Man i tell ya. The music in this scene is just captivating. You just feel that there’s this emotion in it. I love it so much
I love the deeper voice
Dude me too I am not a fan of the Japanese just because everyone sounds like they are 6 years old
Doesn't feel right without the dokkan music
For real though
Fuck yeah
ah yes, least gohan ost
For me too.
Fr
I can just imagine tfs voicing over this:
"MAKANSAPLDALDADLPADLADA"
"Makana-. Makanzo- Makanakan!"
I'd imagine them replaying the clip over and over until gohan just gives up and just says "Screw it! Special Beam Cannon"
MAKANSAPALAPAGA
@@ZY_Nightmare Even more accurate
@@izzybizzy4398
Thx
The english "now its my turn" sounds like a wild animal. Truly a beast.
It sounds like a normal person, if it was a beast then voice actually sound like a beast and not a human talking. Are anime fans always this stupid?
Guess it's my turn*
Also, yes. Love it. How deep his voice is. Saiyans were getting soft in dbs so this was needed.
@@CarlJohnson-iv7sn really dont know why i said now instead of guess :D
Honestly I prefer dub in this normally sub better but dub sound fire🔥
Dragon ball is the only anime where i can watch both sub and dub and call it a masterpiece on both languages
Kyle Hebert just brings the intensity!
We need a Father Son Special Beam Cannon added to the games 😂
There was a Piccolo/Beast Gohan Dual Special Beam Cannon moment in Xenoverse 2, IIRC.
Only the elite will understand
More like a Father Daughter Special Beam Cannon. That would be sick
Dad!?... I mean master Piccolo.
Piccolo: Use the makankō sappō!
Future Gohan: you never taught me that.
Piccolo: Uuuuuuuse it
Good thing is, Gohan learned it without piccolo teaching him, working on it in secret.
Future Gohan could well have recreated this technique too. He was just never in a position to use it. Fighting two androids stronger than him.
He probably hoped Trunks would get strong enough to help him fight to hold them off long enough to use it. But that day never came. Cause if he gets the opportunity, this would most def had killed if not one both androids of lined up right and with enough time. Also the factor can't sense them either.
This is the most powerful voice the actors have ever done for a movie bro, it just gives insane chills
SPECIAL BEAM CANNON??? I like Gohan voice actor in English but the name they gave him is so🦅🦅🦅
…so…eagle?
@@swagmaster28 yes
Special Beast Cannon was RIGHT there…
I like when he says ma- makan- uhhh..
Makanasappalappa!
This is a fuckin great comment
Kami and Nail: Makankosappo...
@@dscorpfantompiccolo: That one!!
Goku: what?
@@tahatale8208cell:
Ma… kanko… sa… CANNON!
I like the echo in the dub voice.
It's reverb, and it's in both recordings.
@@xenophagia oh then I like the dub one more
@@Txddyz They just dumped way more reverb onto Kyle Hebert's voice than they did for Nozowa Masako-San
There's just something so crispy about the dub
I love how they added gohans yell/echo to the effects..it just gives me chills!
That shit was so fucking exhilarating
Rip toriyama man 😔✊
The man who created this masterpiece
As a dub enjoyer, they’re both beautiful
That Dub scream was the type of scream from the deepest depths of a man's soul. In such a scream you can literally feel anger, rage, a man thats fed up to the highest possible degree of fed upism.
Me personally the dragon ball franchise has the best dub out of all the animes ive watched. Theyre both good so props to all the voice actors.
You all have to appreciate sub. They put everything into it and know exactly what it means.
I loved both, honestly I always really like teen/adult gohans English voice actor. I thought he did a great job. I always remember when he was showing kabito ssj2 at the world tournament. Gave me goosebumps.
I fucking love the was masako nozawa yells "makankosappo", also i just cant take the name "special beam cannon" seriously
All the stupid move names came from saban. I don’t get why they didn’t just translate the actual names in kai and kept using those.
Simple, les suda la polla traducir los nombres correctos.@@trashboat5388
fr
@@trashboat5388 because anything with God demon or anything religious like that was censored.
Beast beam cannon should be it's name as it's got his own spin on technique plus way cooler name for it
Both are good in their own rights, but something about DUB just has SO MUCH HEART, SOUL n RAGE to it
When it comes to db,dbz,dbs it's dub all day everyday
jokes aside, can we all agree that both voice actors did a great job at gohan
46:00 “ugh uuuaah YOUR JORDANS ARE FAAAAAAAAAAAKEEE” Best line ever🤣🤣🤣
my guy thats from the lythero vid, you are in the wrong comment section-
Time to watch this master piece again
what movie is this?
@@lukedjanidbs superhero
Dragon ball Super: Superhero*@@SkinnySoul21
master piece lol
Right lol@@ImBlackIvy
Honestly, dub here. That english va did such an amazing job on the transformation and the scene here
My boy does Ryu and Gohan, what a legend!
both are great 🔥🔥
Bro lowered the volume in dubbed and thought I wouldn’t notice💀💀💀
I didn’t?💀
Glad he still got his Pops signature move. 🎉
I really respect and love the JP VA for her dedication and as a person (unlike English Goku). But Gohan in Dub really hits home!
It's just different emotions both are perfect for different audience.
I have mad respect to the OG Japanese va, but man I'm really not used to it 😅. English dub is perfect
Totally agree
Mhm
Não
El doblaje inglés el horrible sobretodo con esos cambios de música y diálogos inventados en las peleas sin contar las exageraciones y las malas traducciones
@@ahbuenoadiosmaster-3204go back to mexico
Dub : special beam CANOOOAAAN
Sub: MAKANKOSAPPÖAAAAA
He sounds like Krillin, Trunks, and Shallot at the same time. How.
Not shallot.
I always like more og dub but that English is also so epic here, that scream
Makkako...
Makakankasp
Mekkasapp
Ahh to hell with it *SPECIAL BEAM CANNON*
It would’ve been cool if Gohan had “Special Beam Kamehameha” from his forehead
I said the same thing. His energy is the color of a Kamehameha too
Effect sounds: SUB
Voices: Exactly DUB
Its the same.sfx. its just quieter in dub
@@TheRNGArchive oh, didn't realize. Then dub neg diffs
Sub got drowned out by the sfx plus wasnt even good tbh.
@@Sup_71 L
@@-LowResDream but dub has too much dub. Also the recording used here for dub is very quiet
I will never be able to take seriously a move called "Special Beam Canon". Makankosappo everyday.
😂Nah
THE DUB VERSION GIVE ME CHILLS EVERYWHERE
how the hell is Masako still killing it like that in her mid 80s, what the fuck. it's 2024 and she is turning 88 this year, and she just finished recording her lines for the new DBZ game. Sean did 80 hours of VA work just for Goku, imagine what Masako is doing
I love the sub. The way Gohan said Makankosappo goes so hard. I had to made an edit of it because It does sound better and trust me I got an ear for stuff that sounds good
You get it
Sub sounds like a minion😂
LMAO
🤦♂️
tru
Fr dub sound way better made bro’s voice sound like a titan
Both are really good but gohan's dub fits him as a grown adult tough guy going beast mode
"Sir, we need you to point out the difference between both video"
"Nope, they are all the same"
"Why would you say so?"
"They are all good"
i like how the volume is turned down on the dub, almost makes it seem like you want the sub to sound better :')
because it is? how can a copy be better, us people are duuuumb
@@Loammello2dub is better, kick rocks loser
@@Loammello2 Easily . . . with skill
@@overlord1037 something U.S voice actors lack haha
@@Loammello2 Laura Bailey, Travis Willingham, Matt Merver, Kevin Conroy, Mark Hamill . . .
If u really a OG DragonBall fan u should know it's.
"MAKANKOSAPO!!!!!"
Piccolo?
Nah, miss me with that. I even speak Japanese and prefer dub.
Has anyone thought about how silly special beam cannon as a move name sounds 😂🤣😂
What about demon murder ray?
@@rbpb2168 Nail gun!
They should've just kept the Japanese names. They did for Kamehameha and Kaioken.
@@JuanPalomoM Fuck that's actually good.
beam cannon lol
what a cheap translation Technique names are always cheesy in English. makanko sappo has a lot of meaning
Probably my favourite reaction series ever
"Makankosappo" is way better than SBC
SUB win 😊
Damn Theyre Both Good. I Say Its A Tie
"MANANKO SAPPOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ,SPECIAL BEAM CANNONNNNNNNNNNNN!!!!!!"
Dub is so Heavily Edited with Echo-effect while Sub is straight up Natural.
Whoever thinks the sub is better in this instance, is literally smoking crack. Like genuinely.
Goku: Kaioken!
Vegeta : Kaio what?
Gohan : Makankosappo!
Cell : Makan what?
Dub hits way harder, no contest.
For casuals
@@KingKalidorpfp fits the comment, some people just have the preference
I wish the Japanese voice acting was better. Her screams for Goku and Gohan make the scenes feel so light. Dub is actually hype
Loved seeing this in theaters. First Sunday thinking it'd be packed but it was 25% full. Covid changed everything
English voice actor cooked fr 🔥
Makankosappo for the win
Special beam canon is such a dumb name
Word might be a bit dumb but the emotion is much better imo
Demonic Screw Light Cannon is dumb af. Lol it’s no different than Special Beam Cannon.
Only because you understand the words that make up "Special Beam Cannon". "Special Beam Cannon" is a lot better than "Demon's Penetrating, Killing Light Gun".
@@robinthrush9672 you're whining about a translation. LMAO
@@ivanzrno1765 That's not whining about a translation; that's pointing out a common bias. It's the same as people that get a kanji tattoo they think looks cool, but translates to "peaceful tofu" or something else silly.
Sounds so much better on Mexican Dub
Goku was there in JP version without being there. Voiced by same person. 😂
Both the Sub version and Dubbed version sound fire af
Sub is better. My opinion
Sub
Japanese has more passion ❤️
almost every other comment i see says dub is better with more passion
Saying sub has more passion is wild
Kind of funny because they just added a little Reverb to the dub and people just think the dubs better now
Delusional @@OGCoolname
Gohans dub voice is so good
meanwhile piccolo: makakano-. makak. Ok screw this. SPECIAL beam CANOnnnnnn
both are exquisite and rich in flavor
SPECIAL BEAM CANNON!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Screw the og version of it. Dub gave me chills when I saw it in theaters
Masako was waiting the entirety of Dragon Ball Z to get to say Makankosappo on camera.
Gohan finally using his dad's move
I will always give props to the Japanese VAs in this series but as someone who grew up with the English dub from borderline infancy I cannot help but get chills and shed a tear of joy anytime I see these moments
Gotta say this is an anime that sounds just as good in English as it does Japanese
SBC is always better said in japanese but the english voice was amazing too
This was kind of the equivalent of Goku going Kaiohken x20 against Frieza if you think about it.
Sub just hit different
海外だとspecial beam canon なのか……
日本はピッコロがまだ魔族だった時に考案した技だったから「魔(ma)」が付いていて、螺旋状の補助ビームで貫通力を高めているから「貫光(kankou)」が付いている
そして、そのビームで相手を確実に殺すから砲の前に「殺(satsu)」が入って「魔貫光殺砲(makankousappou)」なんだけどね
あと、野沢雅子さんが海外では不人気なの意外だな……
日本だと成人男性もしくは青年の声優を女性がやったりするのは結構あるあるだから全然違和感ないな
Both of them hits differently goosebumps 💯💯💯