Imagine, Two Fictional Ship companies. One is the Whale-Back Bulk & Oil Corporation, which uses only Whaleback Steamers and Barges, and the other is the Monitor Maritime Company, which uses only Monitor vessels. Also, my personal favorite of the 3 Monitor class vessels is actually the Yuma, which isn't a true monitor, but it's still a Monitor.
Could you do a video on the SS G. P. Griffith, one of the greatest losses of life on the Great Lakes. It sunk in Lake Erie and with over 241 fatalities you would think it would be discussed more. I can find barely any information on it.
No. The wet deck system allowed the waves to come aboard and stabilize the boat. The downside was that the hatches were then not fully suitable for more modern unloading equipment.
That made me chuckle... six days of research into stuff that no one has dug into before, plus putting it all into a program that folks can understand while illustrating it all... and THAT is what you nit-pick out of it. Whisky Tango Fox. A good chuckle indeed.
@@authorwes For those of us not wrapped in nautical minutia, Tom Tucker posed a valid question. Stay smug with your horse's ass attitude, many of us won't be returning here for answers.
So you have a boat that rides low in the water but the only way to get from one room to another is to venture out on the weather decks. I'm assuming that was exciting in rough seas
Ver nice and interesting video! I always wonder why the lakers have such a different design from ocean going vessels. Perhaps you can do a video on that in the future?
Honestly kind of sad that no intact monitor survives to this day as an example of how NOT to design a boat. Who knows maybe Roll On Roll Over ferries with their lack of bulkheads would never have been made. Perhaps the Estonia, and Herald of Free Enterprise would not have happened?
Perhaps the Chief Engineer has a Assistant Engineer with whom he shared both duties and a room? That would mean you’d have two men to cover the four watches of the day equally, and you’d always have an Engineer Officer on duty.
Very cool sweatshirt! I bet it's a conversation piece too. Just need a matching mask with your YT name added to complete the look. Merch for the channel?
Gotten several questions on my shirts. The fact is they're shirts I've collected since my first book sighing in 1992. Got them at assorted gift shops, museums and trade shows. Nearly all of them cannot be had any longer. However, at least two can be bought from www.boatnerd.com. I have so many that my wife made a rule- for every shirt that comes in, TWO have to out.
Great walk thru video. Does your model show all these interior details or just the external? I’ve got a few ideas from this. Do you sell models or just make them for yourself?
I don't sell models anymore. I did one for the chief of the Sam Laud back in 1984, and another for the captain of the E.M. Ford in 86, after that I pretty much gave it up. My models are strictly exterior.
Thank you for another great walk in time! Your explanations were so helpful!
Glad it was helpful!
11:33 oh! Happy birthday *Yuma* !
Fireworks a cake
Cool video thank you
Glad you enjoyed it
They look similar to the whaleback ships
You are correct.
very cool
Thanks! This was a fun one to do.
The Andaste had loaded in Ferrysburg/Grand Haven before it's final voyage. It had loaded at what became Construction Aggregates Corporatikn.
Thanks for adding that
Another great episode Wes!! I am a huge Great Lakes buff so this is really fun and interesting! Great job!!
The Andaste & Choctaw:
Both 280ft Long.
The Yuma: 338ft Long.
Imagine, Two Fictional Ship companies. One is the Whale-Back Bulk & Oil Corporation, which uses only Whaleback Steamers and Barges, and the other is the Monitor Maritime Company, which uses only Monitor vessels. Also, my personal favorite of the 3 Monitor class vessels is actually the Yuma, which isn't a true monitor, but it's still a Monitor.
Another great history lesson!
Thank you!
Could you do a video on the SS G. P. Griffith, one of the greatest losses of life on the Great Lakes. It sunk in Lake Erie and with over 241 fatalities you would think it would be discussed more. I can find barely any information on it.
I'm actually looking into that one.
Looking forward to the video:)
Good stuff as always Wes but, I have a Q for you ,at the 14 minute you said ,,Its resting Due West of Rogers City ? That would put her in Onaway ?
Due east... I must have mis-spoke. I recall reading that narration at about 1:45 am.
I dont quite undestand the concept. Wouldnt a ship riding that low in the water be much more prone to sinking?
No. The wet deck system allowed the waves to come aboard and stabilize the boat. The downside was that the hatches were then not fully suitable for more modern unloading equipment.
@@authorwes Very interesting. Thank you for explaining. Im going to research the swede designer.
@@authorwes Have you written any of your books on these or are the blueprints for Andaste available digitally from any sources?
Great video. You said that tumblehome is a deck feature, but isn’t it really a hull feature?
That made me chuckle... six days of research into stuff that no one has dug into before, plus putting it all into a program that folks can understand while illustrating it all... and THAT is what you nit-pick out of it. Whisky Tango Fox. A good chuckle indeed.
@@authorwes For those of us not wrapped in nautical minutia, Tom Tucker posed a valid question. Stay smug with your horse's ass attitude, many of us won't be returning here for answers.
i've seen pictures of those boats and wondered what they were. thanks for the great video.
You're welcome!
Hey Captain Wes, this is Captain Craig. Pleasure to see your video. God bless to you and your family
I love your videos and I'm excited for future videos 👍
Just amazing how much crap went into the lakes back in the day
Literally
Where did you get the blueprints of the boats form?
The drawings come from a very private collector who is a long time friend of mine.
Okay, thanks for letting me know. :)
Why did they consider tumblehome desirable
Good question. My guess is two fold- 1) ease of deck cleaning 2) similar weight of water on deck stability as the whaleback.
So you have a boat that rides low in the water but the only way to get from one room to another is to venture out on the weather decks. I'm assuming that was exciting in rough seas
Must've been
Ver nice and interesting video! I always wonder why the lakers have such a different design from ocean going vessels. Perhaps you can do a video on that in the future?
Honestly kind of sad that no intact monitor survives to this day as an example of how NOT to design a boat. Who knows maybe Roll On Roll Over ferries with their lack of bulkheads would never have been made. Perhaps the Estonia, and Herald of Free Enterprise would not have happened?
LOL
Perhaps the Chief Engineer has a Assistant Engineer with whom he shared both duties and a room? That would mean you’d have two men to cover the four watches of the day equally, and you’d always have an Engineer Officer on duty.
Very cool sweatshirt! I bet it's a conversation piece too. Just need a matching mask with your YT name added to complete the look. Merch for the channel?
Gotten several questions on my shirts. The fact is they're shirts I've collected since my first book sighing in 1992. Got them at assorted gift shops, museums and trade shows. Nearly all of them cannot be had any longer. However, at least two can be bought from www.boatnerd.com. I have so many that my wife made a rule- for every shirt that comes in, TWO have to out.
"launched in February, 1893" I can't see a launch done in the dead of winter on the Great Lakes.
It was VERY often done in the dead of winter- all the way back to the 1830s.
I can drive to the thunder bay Marine sanctuary sanctuary . I'm one HR West
Great walk thru video. Does your model show all these interior details or just the external? I’ve got a few ideas from this. Do you sell models or just make them for yourself?
I don't sell models anymore. I did one for the chief of the Sam Laud back in 1984, and another for the captain of the E.M. Ford in 86, after that I pretty much gave it up. My models are strictly exterior.
@@authorwes thanks for the reply!
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