Subscribe if you want to see the revamped home office and gaming setup. Also, I am getting 65-68°C for my GPU while playing Warzone. The whole build took me around 6 hours total. It could have been quicker if I wasn't filming. 😁
Building SFF for a first time build was a huge endeavor! You did great, and it looks like you kept a level head through the process. Like you said, it's not as scary as you think as long as you do your research beforehand. Congratulations on the new PC!!
@@armandocardona6975 thanks you so much man!! Filming it definitely added a bit more complexity but it was so fun. Thanks for commenting because I am now looking to make some upgrades to it for the first time 😂 and this was a nice reminder of the build.
The build looks great Jon! I definitely want to do a small form factor build myself someday. Also, I think you applied the perfect amount of thermal paste, you really only need about a pea-sized drop!
First of all AWESOME BUILD!!! Secondly thanks for mentioning me 👍 I like helping people with their builds and see the results, especially stunning like yours turned out! And to see that you spent so much time to troubleshooting it and making all the adjustments to pull out the max out of your system, good job man! And while we are on that subject, you have put enough thermal paste 😂 no more no less, literally the perfect amount! P.S. If you are planning on custom cables, like extensions, don't do it, not worth in SFF cases, you would have like another mess of cables to hide somewhere, and cables won't affect your airflow, but if you want custom sleeved cables in some different color like directly from the PSU, full custom set, go for it 😉 Once again AWESOME BUILD!!! 👊
Vlad, thank you so much man! It was definitely a very fun process. I loved tinkering around and making adjustments. I understand now why people get into it so much. Also, I knew I put enough thermal paste 😂.
I’ve built a bunch of sff PCs and I still enjoyed watching this video. This is a great build guide for this case. Starting with a small case like this for the first build is like selecting hard mode 😅
Nicely done, especially for your first build. Get yourself some custom unsleeved cables, especially a 12 pin for the graphics card, you will be glad you did. I have the same 3070 Ti FE, great card.
Just an FYI, as far as I’m aware (and if you look at Optimum Tech’s comparisons, the NF-A12x25 is basically the same in performance as the P12. For considerably less it’s a pretty good value.
Great first build. I recommend doing a PBO undervolt. This should drop ur CPU down to 65-70c 100% load even over 1h. My 5600x was full load 65c with Arctic Freeze ii 240mm. You can do it in the bios under advanced for overclocking. I have my way of doing it, but I recommend looking up some tech YTers to learn about it :) It'll increase performance, lower temps, and you'll be able to lower fan speeds too as a result of the overhead.
@@JonImperial there are several channels that do great tutorials on PBO undervolting, including how to undervolt to get better temps but never really lose any performance. Optimum Tech is the best one I've found. His tutorial focuses on Ryzen 7000, but the principles are the same for the 5000 series.
Props for building a SFFPC for your first build, we all usually start with a midtower, something like NZXT. I actually find the A4 H2O to be challenging as I have big hands, however Ill be building in a even smaller case soon; FormD T1 2.1
You used enough thermal paste but I always use the spread method, this way you are not just assuming you get full coverage, you are actually getting 100% coverage.
For your first time you did great. And yes you did a perfect amount of thermal paste. But here’s a little tip for the future. The 5600x is a great cpu, but the issue is that for content creation it doesn’t hold up too well compared to say a i5 12600k because they have something called (E Cores). For your next pc I recommend trying intel or a higher core Ryzen like a R7 or r9, Or trying a i5 or a i7 (using a i9 in sff is really hard as they tend to get pretty hot. I’d try to run a i7 at the most because they still have a lot of cores are aren’t that hard to maintain.) Personally on my next build I’m going to either use the a4 h2p or the Cooler Master nr200p max. Not sure which yet. Going to run a 12700kf and a 4070ti super. Wish me luck I may need it lol.
@@JonImperial Ah in that sense it’s wonderful then, in the video you mentioned architectural uses and content creation, so that’s kinda why I mentioned the whole E-Core concept. Cheers, and yea I’ll need it.
About to attempt almost the same build (first timer too!) with a few different parts. (Asus z690i, 3080ti, cx1000 PSU) will be following your video as its been really helpful, along with the others you watched. Thanks for the super informative video!
How is the pump noise? I have the same AIO with the same routing and it is in my opinion way too loud (then again I am used to a Nhd-15 so I dont know what to expect...)
Though I've assembled the parts, but never tried to put one together, I think I'm more intimidated by loading the software...specifically setting things to where they need to be and the possibilities of needing to troubleshoot any problems. Not having an ideal of what I might need to do, or where to even start would become frustrating.
If you’ve done your research, then start and figure it out along the way. Things will come up regardless and you can almost always find the answer online. You got this!
I got the same AIO in this case, how did you manage to route the AIO tubes coming out of the left side of the pump and around the top of the cpu?? I tried rotating my tubes to fit that way and they were twisting and not playing nice.
@@JonImperial yes, exact same motherboard. It just seems like my AIO doesn't want to twist that way 🤔 I tried rotating the tubes a bit by turning the pump in but it feels like too much tension on them..
Having too much thermal paste is a lot better than having too little if you're not sure, but one dot for square heat spreaders seems good, so your job was well.
Wow, most first time builders don't build sff systems, awesome build! More thermal paste would have been nice to see, but it's definitely enough judging by your temps.
@@JonImperial before you go to the trouble of replacing the thermal paste, install HWMonitor and monitor the individual core temps on cpu during a load test and see if any stand out as maybe getting too hot, if they are all in range of each other you wont see an improvment from additional thermal paste.
Oh nice. I did one in the A4-H2O recently as well, but running a 5900x on an NZXT Kraken and a 3080FE. The temps are great but I do wish they spaced out the PSU a bit better. The AIO routing is really just too tight.
@@JonImperial Man thanks. I liked your video and the way you express yourself. Great content. I built my first PC three weeks ago. But this setup, I like it better.
That seems like just enough. About the size of a pea is enough if mounting pressure is tight enough. Although, I would MUCH rather have too much paste than not enough.
@@JonImperial How are your GPU temps? The 3000 series founder edition cards exhaust hot air out the back so it can get toasty if the GPU isn't separated enough from the spine. Luckily Dan and Lian Li thought about this and added a standoff.
@@t7274 Absolutely! I actually thought I made the wrong choice with going FE. but then again, I didn't know better then. I am getting 65-68°C for my GPU. I forgot to include this in the video.
Hi bro, one more question, if I may - can you please explain a bit about the standoff you had to install for the 3070ti .. or is it mentioned in the manual? Going to build soon 💪
@@JonImperial thanks a lot bro, I will check the gpu manual because the dan a4 H2O manual on pg 14-15 didn’t have anything shown about the standoff, just that you put the card in place and you’re good to go
@@MK-bu3yl you need to add the standoff to allow for more circulation. It pushes the card closer to the case which is better for exhaust and it allows to “suck” more air on the inside. There is nothing to lose in doing it, but a lot to gain.
first of all kapwa pinoy pala kaya kudos sayo :) btw bro planning to get this case with rtx 3070ti and 1080 monitor ako..ilang fps yung sayo and gaano ka taas yung tempt. im a warzone player also
@@JonImperial nalipat ko na lahat ng components ko from ROG Z11 to this Dan A4-H2O, life changing paps haha! may RGB pa din ako pero nituturn off ko naman if diko type hehe. pero overall astig na case to!! around 60-70 temps ko, partida la pa ercon. :D
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Also, I am getting 65-68°C for my GPU while playing Warzone. The whole build took me around 6 hours total. It could have been quicker if I wasn't filming. 😁
Building SFF for a first time build was a huge endeavor! You did great, and it looks like you kept a level head through the process. Like you said, it's not as scary as you think as long as you do your research beforehand. Congratulations on the new PC!!
Thank you so much! I truly enjoyed the process! Tinkering around was so fun. I appreciate the comment and thanks for watching. 😁
Dude did the most difficult pc build while being extremely level headed and had great component choices.
@@armandocardona6975 thanks you so much man!! Filming it definitely added a bit more complexity but it was so fun.
Thanks for commenting because I am now looking to make some upgrades to it for the first time 😂 and this was a nice reminder of the build.
The build looks great Jon! I definitely want to do a small form factor build myself someday.
Also, I think you applied the perfect amount of thermal paste, you really only need about a pea-sized drop!
Thanks, Cole!! SFF is the way! 😂
DON'T DO IT COLE.
I started SFF last year...
and...
I've now gone through 3x SFF cases in the last 6 months... it's an addiction now lol
@@mongoosemcmongoose2786 😂
@@JonImperial really though, it’s fun.
I have a nr200 and meshlicious collecting dust now 🤣
First of all AWESOME BUILD!!!
Secondly thanks for mentioning me 👍 I like helping people with their builds and see the results, especially stunning like yours turned out! And to see that you spent so much time to troubleshooting it and making all the adjustments to pull out the max out of your system, good job man! And while we are on that subject, you have put enough thermal paste 😂 no more no less, literally the perfect amount!
P.S. If you are planning on custom cables, like extensions, don't do it, not worth in SFF cases, you would have like another mess of cables to hide somewhere, and cables won't affect your airflow, but if you want custom sleeved cables in some different color like directly from the PSU, full custom set, go for it 😉
Once again AWESOME BUILD!!! 👊
Vlad, thank you so much man! It was definitely a very fun process. I loved tinkering around and making adjustments. I understand now why people get into it so much.
Also, I knew I put enough thermal paste 😂.
@@JonImperial Anytime man 😉Just wait till you get into OC and chasing scores 😂
I cannot deny that your build and your presentation was above impressive.
Thank you so much! I appreciate it! 😁
I’ve built a bunch of sff PCs and I still enjoyed watching this video. This is a great build guide for this case. Starting with a small case like this for the first build is like selecting hard mode 😅
😅 I wanted a good challenge LOL
5:55 Those PCI-E power cables were a really REALLY tight fit lol.
For real!! I was already applying quite a bit of pressure, but I guess it needed even more 😂
Nicely done, especially for your first build. Get yourself some custom unsleeved cables, especially a 12 pin for the graphics card, you will be glad you did. I have the same 3070 Ti FE, great card.
Thank you!!! 🙏🏾 I actually just received my custom cables today! 😁 I can’t wait to install them.
Just an FYI, as far as I’m aware (and if you look at Optimum Tech’s comparisons, the NF-A12x25 is basically the same in performance as the P12. For considerably less it’s a pretty good value.
Great first build. I recommend doing a PBO undervolt. This should drop ur CPU down to 65-70c 100% load even over 1h. My 5600x was full load 65c with Arctic Freeze ii 240mm. You can do it in the bios under advanced for overclocking.
I have my way of doing it, but I recommend looking up some tech YTers to learn about it :) It'll increase performance, lower temps, and you'll be able to lower fan speeds too as a result of the overhead.
Thank you! I definitely need to do that! 😁
@@JonImperial there are several channels that do great tutorials on PBO undervolting, including how to undervolt to get better temps but never really lose any performance. Optimum Tech is the best one I've found. His tutorial focuses on Ryzen 7000, but the principles are the same for the 5000 series.
"Legos for adults"...oh, that's why I like it so much lol
😊 It’s a pretty fun thing to do LOL
very thorough explanation. kudos for the vid!
Much appreciated!😊
Props for building a SFFPC for your first build, we all usually start with a midtower, something like NZXT. I actually find the A4 H2O to be challenging as I have big hands, however Ill be building in a even smaller case soon; FormD T1 2.1
Thank you so much!!! I just had to go for it! 😅 sorry for the late response.
@@JonImperial let’s just say I’ve made the move and some lol
Included splitter? Riser cable stand offs? were those included with the case?
Yes it was! The splitter was included with the GPU I believe.. it’s been too long 😅
You used enough thermal paste but I always use the spread method, this way you are not just assuming you get full coverage, you are actually getting 100% coverage.
Try to install the fans as exhaust
I'm pretty sure I have it installed as exhaust.
For your first time you did great. And yes you did a perfect amount of thermal paste. But here’s a little tip for the future.
The 5600x is a great cpu, but the issue is that for content creation it doesn’t hold up too well compared to say a i5 12600k because they have something called (E Cores). For your next pc I recommend trying intel or a higher core Ryzen like a R7 or r9, Or trying a i5 or a i7 (using a i9 in sff is really hard as they tend to get pretty hot. I’d try to run a i7 at the most because they still have a lot of cores are aren’t that hard to maintain.) Personally on my next build I’m going to either use the a4 h2p or the Cooler Master nr200p max. Not sure which yet. Going to run a 12700kf and a 4070ti super. Wish me luck I may need it lol.
I mostly just use it for gaming but I agree!
Goodluck with the build! 🙂
@@JonImperial Ah in that sense it’s wonderful then, in the video you mentioned architectural uses and content creation, so that’s kinda why I mentioned the whole E-Core concept. Cheers, and yea I’ll need it.
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🙌🏾 thanks so much for stopping by! I appreciate it. Your videos helped me a lot. I’ve binged a good amount of them. 😁
@@JonImperial All good. Glad they helped you :D
tbh im really struggling build my mini itx with lianli a4 h20 like need 2 day build spend time 2-4 hour more specific about psu and cable.
Oh sorry to hear that. Any progress?
Thanks for this video. I was debating on building another PC in this case, and was going to do almost the same excat build except intel. Good stuff!
Glad I could help! I really like it!
bought my parts to build my first pc build, didnt realise i bought the exact same parts as you, so this video will be so handy, great breakdown!
Awesome!! 😁
Hi any specific reason to change to noctua fans, is it worth it?
The performance are negligible in my opinion. I’m not an expert though. I kept it just because I wanted “the best” 😂
About to attempt almost the same build (first timer too!) with a few different parts. (Asus z690i, 3080ti, cx1000 PSU) will be following your video as its been really helpful, along with the others you watched.
Thanks for the super informative video!
Goodluck bro! 😁
Nicely Done! Did a great job on it! 🤙🏼💯
Thank you! 😁
Dude. You still in alaska? Do you mind if i can know who was the local vendor that sold you the herman miller emobody chair? Pls and thanks!
Yes, I'm still here! message me on IG!
How about the stock fan of EK AIO? what are the temps sir?
I wish I tested it, but I didn't.
You did great!! I learned how to build PCs from watching so many YT videos. I love building PCs
Thank you!! Yes, watching videos helped so much! It enabled me to build it on my own.
@@JonImperial definitely give you a confidence boost!
Hey, what's the monitor you're using at 9:02? Thanks man.
you can undervolt your cpu for better temps without sacrificing performance, optimum tech goes over it in a video
Yes!! I still haven’t looked into it, but I should!
How is the pump noise? I have the same AIO with the same routing and it is in my opinion way too loud (then again I am used to a Nhd-15 so I dont know what to expect...)
I wouldn't consider them as loud...
Love this vid. Makes everything in such simple terms. Sometimes tech channel just speaks in jargons noobs like me don’t understand
Glad to hear that!
Awesome video man, thanks for sharing. Got the same case and just building up confidence to start my build :)
I’m glad! Hopefully it helped. 😁
Impressive for a first build. sff builds are pretty hard.
Great build, it fits your aesthetic perfectly
Thank you! I am very happy about how it turned out!
Though I've assembled the parts, but never tried to put one together, I think I'm more intimidated by loading the software...specifically setting things to where they need to be and the possibilities of needing to troubleshoot any problems. Not having an ideal of what I might need to do, or where to even start would become frustrating.
If you’ve done your research, then start and figure it out along the way. Things will come up regardless and you can almost always find the answer online. You got this!
I got the same AIO in this case, how did you manage to route the AIO tubes coming out of the left side of the pump and around the top of the cpu?? I tried rotating my tubes to fit that way and they were twisting and not playing nice.
I don’t remember needing to do anything particular. It just worked. Are you using the same motherboard?
@@JonImperial yes, exact same motherboard. It just seems like my AIO doesn't want to twist that way 🤔 I tried rotating the tubes a bit by turning the pump in but it feels like too much tension on them..
Thank you so much for making such an informative video!! This made my first pc build a lot easier as I also used the A4 H20
Glad it helped! 🙏🏽
What toolkit are you using?
Here it is amzn.to/3NWcMg3
how heavy with is it with everything?
Having too much thermal paste is a lot better than having too little if you're not sure, but one dot for square heat spreaders seems good, so your job was well.
Thank you! 😁
great video. deserves more views
I appreciate that! 😁
Wow, most first time builders don't build sff systems, awesome build! More thermal paste would have been nice to see, but it's definitely enough judging by your temps.
Thank you! I knew I had to build SFF. 😅 I actually thought I would have to redo it after seeing this video. 😂
@@JonImperial I would add more thermal paste because the amd CPUs get hot on the sides of the cpu while Intel's get mostly hot in the center.
@@t7274 I’m not opposed to trying to add more. The worst that can happen is I get similar results 😂
@@JonImperial before you go to the trouble of replacing the thermal paste, install HWMonitor and monitor the individual core temps on cpu during a load test and see if any stand out as maybe getting too hot, if they are all in range of each other you wont see an improvment from additional thermal paste.
Nice job..Your box looks good.
nice build! just a question where did you learn which drivers you need to download? im building my one soon
I watched TH-cam videos online. Mainly it was the windows installer and then all the drivers for the part I selected. 😁
Very nice job the wire management is on point looks professional
Thank you so much! I do find some weird enjoyment in managing cables. I got it from working on desk setup. 😂
Dont put extra thermalpaste
I didn't! 😁
Oh nice. I did one in the A4-H2O recently as well, but running a 5900x on an NZXT Kraken and a 3080FE. The temps are great but I do wish they spaced out the PSU a bit better. The AIO routing is really just too tight.
I agree! 😁 It wasn’t too bad, but I can see someone can get very frustrated with it.
hello, i will build my itx dan a4h2o in 2 next days, i will use your video for help me
That’s awesome! Hope everything goes smoothly!
@@JonImperial hello, i finished yestarday, 7 hours building haha but is ok now :D
Builds awesome SFF gaming PC. Plays on controller
😂😂😂
Depends on the game for me. WZ is definitely controller lol.
How long did it take you then ?
The initial build took me 5.5hours. It could have been quicker if I wasn't filming. Tinkering afterwards for test 2&3 took maybe an extra hour.
How are you liking the A4 H2O? I’m stuck deciding between that and the meshlicious and since it’ll be my first pc too I’d love to know your thoughts
I really like it. I highly recommend it tbh. I considered the meshlicious but I did not want a vertical tower.
What screwdriver do you use?
I was using this one amzn.to/3NWcMg3
When you play Warzone, did you play on 1080 or 1440?
That time I played 1080. Now I play 1440p , 90 render resolution and get very similar frames.
@@JonImperial Nice, what is the PC Case name or model? I couldn't find it in the description.
It’s called the Lian Li A4-H2O 😁
www.newegg.com/p/2AM-000Z-00096
@@JonImperial Man thanks. I liked your video and the way you express yourself. Great content. I built my first PC three weeks ago. But this setup, I like it better.
Thank you! I appreciate that. 😁
That seems like just enough. About the size of a pea is enough if mounting pressure is tight enough. Although, I would MUCH rather have too much paste than not enough.
Thank you! 😁
I recommend learning how to under-volt your CPU and GPU to get even better temps. Optimum tech has tutorials on both.
Thanks for that advice! That seems scary too but that’s definitely something I would love to learn more about! 😊
@@JonImperial How are your GPU temps? The 3000 series founder edition cards exhaust hot air out the back so it can get toasty if the GPU isn't separated enough from the spine. Luckily Dan and Lian Li thought about this and added a standoff.
@@t7274 Absolutely! I actually thought I made the wrong choice with going FE. but then again, I didn't know better then.
I am getting 65-68°C for my GPU. I forgot to include this in the video.
@@JonImperial You got your FE for retail so it's hard for me to say you made the wrong choice. The price is too good to not buy lol.
Hi bro, one more question, if I may - can you please explain a bit about the standoff you had to install for the 3070ti .. or is it mentioned in the manual? Going to build soon 💪
The standoffs are there for cards like the 3070ti founders edition to have more space/airflow. It is in the manual. 😁
@@JonImperial thanks a lot bro, I will check the gpu manual because the dan a4 H2O manual on pg 14-15 didn’t have anything shown about the standoff, just that you put the card in place and you’re good to go
@@MK-bu3yl what graphics card do you have?
@@JonImperial 3070Ti Founders Edition bro. Thank you for reply - really appreciate it!
@@MK-bu3yl you need to add the standoff to allow for more circulation. It pushes the card closer to the case which is better for exhaust and it allows to “suck” more air on the inside. There is nothing to lose in doing it, but a lot to gain.
first of all kapwa pinoy pala kaya kudos sayo :) btw bro planning to get this case with rtx 3070ti and 1080 monitor ako..ilang fps yung sayo and gaano ka taas yung tempt. im a warzone player also
Salamat! 😁
72-76degrees, hovers at 74-75. I get 155fps-ish at 1080p
Are you playing in 1440p or 1080p?
I only have a 1080p monitor right now. I would love to try a 1440p though!
I just bought a 1440p monitor. I was getting 130+ FPS with 100 render resolution.
Congrats, Jon! Cherry popped!
😂 Thanks, Michael!!! It was so fun!!
Optimum Tech ALL DAY ALL THE WAY BABY ! the man amazing af
He is!! I’m glad I found his content! 😁
Bro this is a very hard first case 😂😂😂
It was fun though! 😁
I was just wondering, do you think I should make a watercooled pc with no experience?
That’s what I did! 😁
magkano total lahat kuya?
$1803.85 😁
@@JonImperial nalipat ko na lahat ng components ko from ROG Z11 to this Dan A4-H2O, life changing paps haha! may RGB pa din ako pero nituturn off ko naman if diko type hehe. pero overall astig na case to!! around 60-70 temps ko, partida la pa ercon. :D
great video
With so many cables, i think the case is too small..
I can’t agree with that. I think it’s just right. 😁
So cool. 😎👍
Thanks, William!! 😁
My dream!
🙌🏾 thanks for watching!
Must be horrible having a pc that has no experience.
Huh?
@@JonImperial The title of your video reads I built a PC with NO EXPERIENCE. This sentence states that the pc has no experience not that you had none.