The problem is this selective emphasis on visible surveillance tools such as camera and microphone and skipping over the tools like smartphone which is a extremely powerful tool for surveillance.
According to Comparitech, China does have a huge number of CCTV cameras in its cities. But the city with the most CCTV cameras per square mile in the world is Delhi, with 1826 cameras per square mile, followed by London, with 1138 cameras per sqm. The city in China with the most cameras per square mile is Shenzen with 520 per sqm - less than a third of Delhi and less than half of London. Shanghai has 408 per sqm, and Beijing has not 181 per sqm, which is even less than New York City at 194 per sqm.
In delhi every house has a CCTV camera, additionally Old delhi is an ancient city nearly 1000yr old hence there are lesser apartments and more congested narrow tall houses. Furthermore these cameras are not connected to a central computerised control system unlikely in London and Shenzen.
Delhi is a highly dense, congested city & as an Indian, I can tell you that most of the cameras are privately owned either by house-owners or private businesses.
@@aportfolio8324 did this video told any data about how many public camera per sqaure meter or square mile in cities in China, versus other cities, like New York, London, or Toyko? or do you think smart cities must have more public camera than current cities? if a comment did not prove its starting from some facts, why not treat it as propaganda?
Two wrongs don't make a right and it's not like you can criticise the surveillance on the Han-net same way you can criticise Assange handling. No country is perfect, so there will always be some whataboutism to bring up that conveniently ignores the issue at hand.
@@Ilovecruise americans didn't harvest organs from the indians... Soooooo yes I think china has a worse record than america. And you really have to work hard to achieve that.
@Matthew Shields yes Matthew, US, UK and Australia are angels policing the world and create wars everywhere they go, you know there's another term for this, AXIS of EVIL.
@@jamesblackburn6139 Australia was a full on supporter of both the illegal invasion of Iraq and the illegal war in Vietnam. So yes, they are just as guilty.
CCTV camera in any other countries: innovation of technology, safety guard for people, CCTV camera in China: no democrocy, no human rights, survellance, prison, privacy, bad, bad....
At the end of the day, it all comes down to the intentions behind using such technology. Seoul also uses surveillance technology which makes it one of the safest cities in the world. It's a perfect middle way between digital police and lawlessness.
@@CIARUNSITE The benefits of surveillance technology can usher police reforms, reduced theft, and being able to deter crime in general. This must also be balanced by surveillance technology used to stifle political dissent, freedom of thought, and/or privacy within one’s own home. It is a conversation American will have to wrestle with as we integrate it into our society and neighborhoods (e.g., Nest Cameras, Ring, etc.).
@Maverick american cop has the best way to deal with criminals If the suspect is 👨this guy then he is presumed innocent However if the suspect is 👨🏿 he'll be choked to dead
Bloomberg and other news documentaries always try to set up a theme for whatever country or situation they present: warm filter and palm trees for Mexico, crowded streets and squatting people in India, clay buildings for the Middle east, etc. In the case of China, a lot of documentaries love the dark and modern dystopia vibe, which the night shot of a city fits perfectly. They thought most people won't catch on that it is in South Korea.
Whatever your opinion on China is, Smart city with robust public transportation and green energy support, is the only way humanity can realistically move forward and combat world issues today.
@@blankstatement1 electric vehicles from coal electricity is still better than ICE car. Most coal plan can output 50-60% efficacy, while the best car gets about 35-40%. And China is not lucky with its energy, it has almost no oil.
Let’s be clear. Everyone has the potential to be surveilled. The difference is what the government deemed to be a worthy reason. Do you want to be surveilled because you jay walked or talked badly about the government?
@@artemotion3022 Before she landed in canada, the US and canada had already talked and were waiting for her and already had set a plan for her when she arrived.
@@artemotion3022 The chinese doesn't really care if the chinese government have surveillance equipment every few yards in the whole nation, they consider the government as a stern but benevolent father figure. The americans and some westerners will never fathom this as they consider the government as a Big Brother who is out to get them, a brother that is never to be trusted. There was a recent news a day or two, the senate ask somebody why he needs guns...he said so he can fight tyranny of the government. lol!
Everytime they post a picture, image, and video I wish Bloomberg date stamp it. Some look old, some look current. I'm not sure if they're talking about 10 years ago, 10 months ago or 10 days ago. If you're going to post a video, interview or image, please state date & time.
Smart City, You saying that now , then you you will be saying my civil rights are violated.. Right now , China , fines it's people or arrests people for talking bad about China...
@@peterlakers1 I am sick of the criminals, homeless and drug addicts in our cities. We have cameras in our condo community but the police will do nothing
That comes with the Chinese government destroying that CCTV footage after every unjustified police shooting and deleting all videos posted online of such event captured by civilians along with the government disapearing the body of the suspect so their families cannot have a proper funeral nor an autopsy investigation also china doesn't disclose how many are killed by police every year. If you thought American police was bad, you ain't seen nothing yet compared to china's.....
The only crimes caught on those cameras are the crimes of the Chinese government. There's hours of footage. They have more "cops" than "gangsters" because they dressed up all the criminals in police uniforms.
When you are using Facebook Twitter TH-cam and MasterCard or visacard you already under the surveillance of American authorities, that's why the FBI knows how to find people so quickly. When you use credit card, they know when you used it, what did you buy and where did you buy.
China has a system for some cities that check what you buy, and if they don't like it they put you on the blacklist I saw one video about it one day...
If you think that's scary, you don't know how the Chinese digital ecosystem works. Their government directly and _proactively_ monitors their equivalents of facebook, whatsapp and payment services.
@@shaundudley4576 USA is always at the edge of collapse every 50 years shawn. 1870s, 1920s, 1970s, 2020s. . . It's cyclical. What makes you think it's gonna be different this time, Shawn?
London has more than half a million cameras, around 691,000 CCTV cameras to be more precise. It's the third city IN THE WORLD with more surveillance and was only surpassed in recent years by Wuxi and Taiyuan in China.
@@RrR-xv4ij They would try, definetly. But China is already way ahead USA (tiktok is basically a spy tool, recording everything and even analazing the background and surroundings. Spooky!). And so on...
The crime rate dropped dramatically after more cameras on the street. The traffic accident dispute also can get a quick solution. Overall, people's safety and security have got improved so much. It also can uncover the police brutality and government officials' rude treatment of ordinary people. It can help solve all kinds of crimes and daily conflicts. Traffic accident responsibility, hit and run, street fights, thief, robbery etc. The benefits many times out weight the shortcoming. People overwhelmingly support these measures.
If you record every person on camera or through a mic of course crime drops. You just sacrifice all privacy and potentially your freedom of speech which is the case in china. It is hard to stand up against the chinese government if it knows where you are and what you say all the time.
wonder what's the intention of this video, it tried to portray the smart cities as a bad idea, or just try to criticize China, Or is it US jealousy i'm sensing here
That supermarket with the overhead conveyor belt is 盒马 (he ma). I go there weekly and I’m so glad to see them. Lol they’re one of my favorite things about China.
@Galaxia These new "smart" door cameras are permanently powered and connected to other devises through WiFi and now 5G networks. There is nothing preventing these cameras to continousely transmit real time to some unseen server, along with their location.
@@easonhuang7117 Chinese citizens abroad are monitored and punished for speaking out against the country and its leaders. For example you can't speak badly of the country on TH-cam with peace of mind.
The tone of this docu is quite alarmist despite the content not quite justifying it. Most of what y'all have said about privacy and data security applies if not even more so to Western states and tech firm pricavy violations. Yet their exposes are less "ominous", focusing more on new "amazing" technologies.
Because it's not the same, I guess that's what's called a whataboutism. In China the state has total control and can access all the data. In constitutional democracies with the rule of law that is not possible.
@@7venmedia41 it was a scandal when Snowden leaked some of the surveillance programs. In China, it is open and public. We know NSA spies on certain individuals, in China the government has profiles on every citizen. There is no privacy from the government. It is very different. Personal story, when my grandmother died years ago, my father sent a eulogy letter to my relatives in China. In the letter he heavily criticized CCP and the cultural revolution. USPS later sent the letter back to sender, which had been burned to a crisp, back to our house. It was a warning.
@@7venmedia41 Exactly. The CCP is a malignant entity. Western democracies are not. That makes a world of difference with regard to how data is used and how intrusive data gathering is permitted. These Chinese 'smart cities' are nightmares of the future, Orwellian villages totally controlled by the government. That was a feature of 1984 if you recall, i.e., total encompassing surveillance and absolute loss of personal privacy.
Because of the "surveillance state", women feel safe going out at night alone. If you go to China, you can see it's pretty common. Heck, some of my friends even let their kids, 10 year-olds, explore the city by themselves
just want to point out that "smart city" infrastructure projects for the public and tech company's "privacy intrusion" aren't the same topic. they serve completely different purposes. btw, as a photographer myself, what fafascinate me is that the news/documentory editors's preferences of color-grading on china clips are often lowering the contrast& saturation, lol.
@Adrian Kennedy you know that bbc uk and bbc china once posted a same clip with different color-grading. uk version is the hazzy yellowish while the china team's more towards straight out of camera. bbc was crucified by china's state-owned media for the double standard. interesting enough
Go there yourself and see with your eyes. When there is endless smog it comes out as lowered contrast. No amount of color grading will fix it. In order to fix it, you need to film during major holidays or festivals where they force the factories to shut down. Or you film at night when a combination of post production, color grade and darkness enhances the perceived image quality.
More people actually are moving out of cities because we can actually work at home than in big expensive buildings. Best to afford a better house somewhere else than in a expensive city. We have delivery for our goods like Amazon. It wont be long until they realize that this is actually the better future.
@@antoniousmanonioussonofmin5057 It was a US technology brought to China by Prof.David Brady of Stanford U.The US government cut the research funding on him. A Chinese venture capitalist had injected 20 million US to his company and now listed in Nasdaq.
@@archingelus no Chinese cops don't even carry guns, only suspected criminals are caught the cops don't usually stop random people and Chinese people aren't usually report someone as suspicious based on their similarities to George Floyd
This isn’t a China exclusive problem. Western Powers also have the same issue. “Those who surrender freedom for security will not have, nor do they deserve, either one.” The problem with this level of surveillance is that it won’t always keep you safe - it acts on the whim of politicians and local leaders. Then it becomes a question of who holds them to account?
I think theyre concerned that this style of governance or something similar to it that leans more towards techno powered authoritarianism (technochracy? Facism? Etc) could be adopted in the US and/or in other democratic countries (see Australia?) without the public's consent or full understanding. In reality though it is happening thanks to the Covid-19 induced 'New Normal', or what Charles Schwab of the WEF refers to as 'The Great Reset', or what the UN referred to once as Agenda 21 or Agenda 2021 soon to been followed up by UN Agenda 2030 to finish the job!
They are more concerned with 1.5 billion people of China, we are dealing with a suppressive authoritarian regime who dosen't tolerate any degree of freedom of speech or criticism, so it obvious their goal is to make a tool to protect themselves from people of China at first place.
As a foreigner live in China , im Fine with those cameras, in some sense I like it even dance front of it . Because most of my time I don’t lock my homes door , yeah you read it all right . My wife don’t lock door when I’m coming back at 3 am in the morning 😜
There is something even you have 2 million dollar you can’t buy it. The sense of safe. You feel safe In everyway, everyday . The past 5 years more and safer living in China. It different from 10 years ago. I saw change
I live in the US and we generally don't lock our doors either. Some people get their own cameras, which are increasingly cheap these days, others don't even bother simply because they have never had issues.. You don't need constant government surveillance to be safe and secure, just a healthy community. "Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety"
@@tjwoosta oh really! We went to San Diego, Las Vegas . We frightened by some homeless and drunkard . When travel back to China rental company call us the car was missing , but later found out it was ride out by the security guy on drop point . Actually I don’t know what the connections the surveillance with liberty , i don’t really find somethings limiting me with those cam. In some way I feel the law officer in China more lenient and talkable , there is no sense of suppression at all. I even made a fight few times with local end up by let me make peace with the opponents , forgiving each other’s, record plus critics letter. Then they leave me out
@@chasseausanglier3390 yeah,hahah. Just wondering how handling r those countries are for the case of covide only. There is no discrimination of my saying except only the facts
Not enough cameras. They should mount cameras on all buses and municipal vehicles too. These cameras will be mobile not stationary so they're harder to avoid.
Why the tone of this kind video talking about China growing is always so tense and negative? Don’t you want to see other countries prosper? You wish US to be the only child of Mother Earth?
American smart cites is all about digital transformation and new American dream while china is based on surveillance and suppression. Just look at US smart city in ..........
@@steve-uo3lw I think he was joking, BBC recently got busted filtering the colour of trees to grey. The video was from a vlogger and he compared his vid to BBC. Why play these silly games?
I'm all for smart cities, but I draw the line at face recognition software. There should be a baseline of anonimity in being able to move through public spaces without being tracked in real time where you are and what you are doing. Using cameras to retrospectively look at crimes is okay, but only after you find out about the crime through other means.
Here in Australia, we have cameras in every street corner in the city and high speed camera in every highway. We never voted for such. I think Australia and alot Western nations are going towards that direction, just that China is pushing ahead faster...
the cctvs are mainly for traffic monitoring and e-patrol by police dispatches, where they can replay crime scenes and pinpoint them faster as a chinese, i don't really mind(cus who has privacy these days) that and it does make me feel safer. We have a quite low crime rate, and traffic violations are reduced by a lots cus these cameras.
Chinese people trust their politicians and government more than their counterparts in America.Walking down a street in the wee hours knowing the survalance system kept a close eye on unscrupulous and unsavoury conducts can be very reassuring.
China will take over as the world's largest economy gdp wise. But in order aspects like wealth, technology and military power and per capita, china is still far behind, plus china economy is slowing down by alot.
Their GDP per capita will increase though and they also modernize their military, technologically they will also be more advanced eventually. I can admire the hard work of the Chinese people.
@@abartakbhattacharya4475 dont worry, there are so many people who just dont know anything whats going on in china and say only the stuff that they have seen, which in this case is “GoodStuff” because china never publish their “badstuff” So what they do is brainwashing people like him which is really sad and as you can see it is working. Fk china all countries should nuke china, spoken of innocent people there? No there arent any, huge amount of chinese do know that their regime is fked up but what do they do ? nothing, and the small amount that does something is just to small to make an impact, so that small protest amounts are being locked in prison nor vanished.
Yeah, right. Not including the demographic crisis, the crippling shortage of fundamental resources such as water, the financial & housing crises brewing underneath the surface, etc. Hell, all eyes are on China as of now due to the fallout of Evergrande lmao. China can hardly keep it's current position of regional hegemony stable; a global world led by them is an impossibility.
True. And it’s not even as safe as people believe, you might not get attacked as often as América but if you do your dead. Since most Chinese citizens won’t help you in fear of getting sued. A few days ago I saw a child get run over by the buss and nobody did nothing and it got run over by 2 more cars till the mom came
Smart cities in China is a threat to the US and the West? With that kind of mentality, you can imagine the type and nature of the people, the country and the intentions behind such thought.
Not to mention London has 73 cameras per 1000 people, among the highest surveillance camera per capital for a major city
People shouldn't start crime
@@estelaangeles2346 If everything was that simple we wouldn't have this problem
The problem is this selective emphasis on visible surveillance tools such as camera and microphone and skipping over the tools like smartphone which is a extremely powerful tool for surveillance.
And still you have crime in London.
In China city, no crime on the street, ultra safe.
America smart for nothing
According to Comparitech, China does have a huge number of CCTV cameras in its cities. But the city with the most CCTV cameras per square mile in the world is Delhi, with 1826 cameras per square mile, followed by London, with 1138 cameras per sqm. The city in China with the most cameras per square mile is Shenzen with 520 per sqm - less than a third of Delhi and less than half of London. Shanghai has 408 per sqm, and Beijing has not 181 per sqm, which is even less than New York City at 194 per sqm.
In delhi every house has a CCTV camera, additionally Old delhi is an ancient city nearly 1000yr old hence there are lesser apartments and more congested narrow tall houses. Furthermore these cameras are not connected to a central computerised control system unlikely in London and Shenzen.
@@tayaramecaniciIndia they would have if they have the capability and capacity.
Delhi is a highly dense, congested city & as an Indian, I can tell you that most of the cameras are privately owned either by house-owners or private businesses.
I can assure you most are either dead or have paan stuck on them.
90% don't work in delhi😂
Since Snowden's Revelation, anything Bloomberg said sounds like CIA-scripted propaganda. 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Prepare for the Wumao army calling foul on a news pieces just laying out the facts.
@@aportfolio8324 did this video told any data about how many public camera per sqaure meter or square mile in cities in China, versus other cities, like New York, London, or Toyko?
or do you think smart cities must have more public camera than current cities?
if a comment did not prove its starting from some facts, why not treat it as propaganda?
And yet Julian Assange is still locked up? Hypocritical
Two wrongs don't make a right and it's not like you can criticise the surveillance on the Han-net same way you can criticise Assange handling.
No country is perfect, so there will always be some whataboutism to bring up that conveniently ignores the issue at hand.
@@gebys4559 if the one blaming have a worse record, the one blaming DO NOT HAVE THE RIGHT to act righteous
@@Ilovecruise you are soo right
@@Ilovecruise americans didn't harvest organs from the indians... Soooooo yes I think china has a worse record than america. And you really have to work hard to achieve that.
@@Flyingchris2249G falun gong much?
8:40 let's all pretend the NSA does not exist.
That's why Huawei is banned. Huawei do not provide backdoor.
@@QuietJugung China bans almost every foreign internet service provider.
The USA bans Huawei.
China: How dare you?
@Matthew Shields yes Matthew, US, UK and Australia are angels policing the world and create wars everywhere they go, you know there's another term for this, AXIS of EVIL.
Australia? What war are they starting?
@@jamesblackburn6139 Australia was a full on supporter of both the illegal invasion of Iraq and the illegal war in Vietnam. So yes, they are just as guilty.
not sure why you're targetting China, when your own allies - Singapore, even has the same surveilance method
Ooof aahahhahaaha
Well guess who built The singapore system…
That's called american hipocrecy dude
Whataboutism
Not to mention the UK - London has far more CCTV cameras per square mile than any Chinese city.
Grapes are sour.
Explain pls
吃不到葡萄說葡萄酸
CCTV camera in any other countries: innovation of technology, safety guard for people,
CCTV camera in China: no democrocy, no human rights, survellance, prison, privacy, bad, bad....
classic
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At the end of the day, it all comes down to the intentions behind using such technology. Seoul also uses surveillance technology which makes it one of the safest cities in the world. It's a perfect middle way between digital police and lawlessness.
Once people with "pure" intentions create the system someone with bad intentions can reappropriate it. Safety doesn't come from police and cameras.
@@CIARUNSITE yes it absolutely does, that's why despite the libs eant less police presence in black neighborhoods the people living there disagree
@@CIARUNSITE The benefits of surveillance technology can usher police reforms, reduced theft, and being able to deter crime in general. This must also be balanced by surveillance technology used to stifle political dissent, freedom of thought, and/or privacy within one’s own home. It is a conversation American will have to wrestle with as we integrate it into our society and neighborhoods (e.g., Nest Cameras, Ring, etc.).
@Maverick american cop has the best way to deal with criminals
If the suspect is 👨this guy then he is presumed innocent
However if the suspect is 👨🏿 he'll be choked to dead
@Maverick I mean by commenting you literally just commited a crime lol
Video starts with a South Korean city
Bloomberg and other news documentaries always try to set up a theme for whatever country or situation they present: warm filter and palm trees for Mexico, crowded streets and squatting people in India, clay buildings for the Middle east, etc. In the case of China, a lot of documentaries love the dark and modern dystopia vibe, which the night shot of a city fits perfectly. They thought most people won't catch on that it is in South Korea.
Average US media, bunch of braindead who can't even get the basic information right.
@Brian Liew + 200 social credit! Congrats!!!!
Oh video hs changed
I don’t know if the video content has changed, but now the beginning of the video content is a city in China.
800 billion ? wow thats like a third of the afghan war
Ok 共匪, now go collect your penny
@@RrR-xv4ij You are nothing
@Splint Meow amerkaaa
@@RrR-xv4ij lol r u one of those so called ractopamine pork meat eater 'Green Frog'?
@Splint Meow it ain’t your money right? You go ahead spend all your money to improve the environment
NSA: We didn't do anything, don't look at me
Deflection i love it cope harder agent
@@tophatv2902 ikr these chinese bots are starting to get slick with memes even though they don't make any points
Prepare for the Wumao army calling foul on a news pieces just laying out the facts.
@@arv7539 Its sad to see these cpp agents trying to pretend to be Americans. They always do this
@@tophatv2902 they've gotten smarter or maybe their directors order them to
One problem I see with everyone moving to the city is safe and affordable housing. Supply and demand not matching equals inflation.
They build houses in advance there are thousands empty
They’re doing the opposite of us but to the point they have empty cities…
@@atl3652002 isn't it better than people living in the street?
China builds more than enough hosing. In fact, it has enough housing avaible to house every refugee in the world.
Tofu building, that's how lots of real estate construction companies make money.
Whatever your opinion on China is, Smart city with robust public transportation and green energy support, is the only way humanity can realistically move forward and combat world issues today.
green energy support? when 60% of chinas energy is coal? please lol
@@blankstatement1 electric vehicles from coal electricity is still better than ICE car. Most coal plan can output 50-60% efficacy, while the best car gets about 35-40%. And China is not lucky with its energy, it has almost no oil.
@@blankstatement1 it's changing suprisingly fast.
Dus can u blame them? They create 90% of world's products.
@@blankstatement1 takes time to develop. Please lol
How did USA track Meng ? If that isn't surveillance what's is it?
That was border control. Jeez.
@@artemotion3022 Yeah, Meng is a bad example. Should have said Snowden
Let’s be clear. Everyone has the potential to be surveilled. The difference is what the government deemed to be a worthy reason. Do you want to be surveilled because you jay walked or talked badly about the government?
@@artemotion3022 Before she landed in canada, the US and canada had already talked and were waiting for her and already had set a plan for her when she arrived.
@@artemotion3022 The chinese doesn't really care if the chinese government have surveillance equipment every few yards in the whole nation, they consider the government as a stern but benevolent father figure. The americans and some westerners will never fathom this as they consider the government as a Big Brother who is out to get them, a brother that is never to be trusted. There was a recent news a day or two, the senate ask somebody why he needs guns...he said so he can fight tyranny of the government. lol!
Everytime they post a picture, image, and video I wish Bloomberg date stamp it. Some look old, some look current. I'm not sure if they're talking about 10 years ago, 10 months ago or 10 days ago. If you're going to post a video, interview or image, please state date & time.
Ya the carema really offended the privacy, especially for guys just rob someone and his face got spot, they really need freedom to crime
I wish we had smart cities in USA to get rid of all the criminals and riff raff. Too much crime here!
Smart City, You saying that now , then you you will be saying my civil rights are violated..
Right now , China , fines it's people or arrests people for talking bad about China...
@@peterlakers1 that's Singapore!
@@peterlakers1 I am sick of the criminals, homeless and drug addicts in our cities. We have cameras in our condo community but the police will do nothing
@@peterlakers1 not really. Of course you can criticize the government, but there are laws you need to obey, like respect those martyrs...
What about your guns?
Id rather live in a city full of CCTV than a city where you are told by police "no CCTV, we have no idea what happend."
Bootlicker moment
That comes with the Chinese government destroying that CCTV footage after every unjustified police shooting and deleting all videos posted online of such event captured by civilians along with the government disapearing the body of the suspect so their families cannot have a proper funeral nor an autopsy investigation also china doesn't disclose how many are killed by police every year. If you thought American police was bad, you ain't seen nothing yet compared to china's.....
then go on, go there
The only crimes caught on those cameras are the crimes of the Chinese government. There's hours of footage. They have more "cops" than "gangsters" because they dressed up all the criminals in police uniforms.
@@arv7539 Thank you! I'm about to do so!
When you are using Facebook Twitter TH-cam and MasterCard or visacard you already under the surveillance of American authorities, that's why the FBI knows how to find people so quickly. When you use credit card, they know when you used it, what did you buy and where did you buy.
China has a system for some cities that check what you buy, and if they don't like it they put you on the blacklist I saw one video about it one day...
@@tentimesful oooo controversy theorists how scaryy, gonna get blacklisted for buying chilli jam
@@tentimesful as a Chinese, I’m surprised I never heard it
@@choccotacco4752 But you did hear about the credit score? Of them grading you for your comformity? That you can not take loans when under 600?
If you think that's scary, you don't know how the Chinese digital ecosystem works. Their government directly and _proactively_ monitors their equivalents of facebook, whatsapp and payment services.
London UK gets more.
yeah but london is ok, china is not ok, no why, china is not ok. lol
@@hyy3657 because UK don’t have social credit system
Maybe if the US stopped bothering about china and start working on themselves they would eventually win every Tech race there is
I don't like the US, but the US still has the edge and will keep it.
@@carlosandleon us keeps what? keeps trying to arrest Snowden and extradite Assange? lol
@@carlosandleon China uses more steel in 3 years than the US did in all of the twentieth-century. The only edge the USA has is the edge of Collapse.
@@shaundudley4576 USA is always at the edge of collapse every 50 years shawn.
1870s, 1920s, 1970s, 2020s. . .
It's cyclical. What makes you think it's gonna be different this time, Shawn?
How much privacy are we as a society willing to give up in the name of safety? I’m here to say we should not give it all up
A safe life is a boring one in my opinion
That would result in anarchy. 99% of people would prefer a safe life, instead of absolute freedom.
It is too risky. I feel that actually we all have lost our freedom already. 😢
@@theshades1998 That statement reeks of incredible privilege
@@theshades1998 I hope you have a daughter someday and tell her the same thing living in an unsafe environment.
London has more than half a million cameras, around 691,000 CCTV cameras to be more precise. It's the third city IN THE WORLD with more surveillance and was only surpassed in recent years by Wuxi and Taiyuan in China.
Pointing Fingers is a western thing
But western media will not say anything about it.
and how many of them are monitored by the government and use facial recognition?
Chinese 50c army will not say anything about it
@@AbuHajarAlBugatti more of an American thing. The West are puppets of America. And so they believe everything America says
@@netiturtle neither does the West
Infrastructure wise China is way ahead of other countries around the world
You are a fool. The Chinese government sits 3 days a year. You have no idea what advanced even means. It means vote.
They build fast. But they build cheap and cut corners. Their infrastructure is very weak.
NSA is jelaous and sponsored this video!
Probably not they will just hack the poor code of China’s firms
@@RrR-xv4ij They would try, definetly. But China is already way ahead USA (tiktok is basically a spy tool, recording everything and even analazing the background and surroundings. Spooky!). And so on...
Another wumao, how much do they pay you?! does it woth it?
Smart city required power to keep it alive and online 24/7.
But not when power shortage.
India no power shortage, will lead the best cities in the world!
that's why big countries put so much money in nuclear fusion research, no more energy shortage if we have 'mini sun' on earth
renewable energy. solar,wind and water power
china has 30 nuclear power plants under construction as of today, it will meet its energy needs very soon to power its economy.
just use nuclear
The crime rate dropped dramatically after more cameras on the street. The traffic accident dispute also can get a quick solution. Overall, people's safety and security have got improved so much. It also can uncover the police brutality and government officials' rude treatment of ordinary people. It can help solve all kinds of crimes and daily conflicts. Traffic accident responsibility, hit and run, street fights, thief, robbery etc. The benefits many times out weight the shortcoming. People overwhelmingly support these measures.
If you record every person on camera or through a mic of course crime drops. You just sacrifice all privacy and potentially your freedom of speech which is the case in china. It is hard to stand up against the chinese government if it knows where you are and what you say all the time.
Wrong
I'd prefer some risk to a society of total surveillance
@@IC-lz3of So do you want a city that very unsafe in night because of high of crime, drug usage and also homeless people?
@@Fauzanarief-n7i Those who value safety over freedom deserve neither.
China is a hot topic for the imperial Euro-america. I feel your pain of fearing the awakening of the long enslaved indigenous societies
Enslaved! Haha
@@jonnydoeson5562 very true, direct and indirect
@@jimbrutan_senior 😂🤣😂🤣😂 yeah the enslaved Chinese society u 🤡🤡🤡
Why play Cyberpunk 2077 when you could visit it in China
Oh yeah, it turns out that China has been trying to arrest Snowden and extradite Assange! I used to think it was America
wonder what's the intention of this video, it tried to portray the smart cities as a bad idea, or just try to criticize China, Or is it US jealousy i'm sensing here
I think Edward Snowden has the most to say about this issue.
That supermarket with the overhead conveyor belt is 盒马 (he ma). I go there weekly and I’m so glad to see them. Lol they’re one of my favorite things about China.
This is Freshippo?
@@diegotitovilches7433 yes!
That's terrible. I don't like asians.
@@stephenisheta8457 bruh
@@stephenisheta8457Thats terrible. I don't like whites
Power shortage is a problem in smart city.
Power shortages are a problem for any city.
The moment u use ur phone or laptop, all ur data are being captured anyway. So if u want privacy, don't be connected at all.
In The Netherlands more and more people have a camera on or next to their door potentially recording anyone that walks by.
@Galaxia These new "smart" door cameras are permanently powered and connected to other devises through WiFi and now 5G networks. There is nothing preventing these cameras to continousely transmit real time to some unseen server, along with their location.
PsychoPass anime = look the ending of season 1... Even the MC does not want to break the smart system...
Show me just one example of Chinese government abuse user data.
@@easonhuang7117 +100 social credit
@@easonhuang7117 dont worry u can speak freely here
@@bluemystic5980 unfortunately he can't, he'll probably lose 50 credits instantaneously
@@easonhuang7117 Chinese citizens abroad are monitored and punished for speaking out against the country and its leaders. For example you can't speak badly of the country on TH-cam with peace of mind.
Chinese don't care whatever the government will do for the country to prosper.
haha，Most Chinese only care about money，If the government can lead them to do it, everything else doesn't matter
The tone of this docu is quite alarmist despite the content not quite justifying it.
Most of what y'all have said about privacy and data security applies if not even more so to Western states and tech firm pricavy violations. Yet their exposes are less "ominous", focusing more on new "amazing" technologies.
Because it's not the same, I guess that's what's called a whataboutism.
In China the state has total control and can access all the data. In constitutional democracies with the rule of law that is not possible.
@@7venmedia41 it was a scandal when Snowden leaked some of the surveillance programs. In China, it is open and public. We know NSA spies on certain individuals, in China the government has profiles on every citizen. There is no privacy from the government. It is very different.
Personal story, when my grandmother died years ago, my father sent a eulogy letter to my relatives in China. In the letter he heavily criticized CCP and the cultural revolution. USPS later sent the letter back to sender, which had been burned to a crisp, back to our house. It was a warning.
@@7venmedia41 Exactly. The CCP is a malignant entity. Western democracies are not. That makes a world of difference with regard to how data is used and how intrusive data gathering is permitted. These Chinese 'smart cities' are nightmares of the future, Orwellian villages totally controlled by the government. That was a feature of 1984 if you recall, i.e., total encompassing surveillance and absolute loss of personal privacy.
@@DorianLS You are too naive. Democrazy govt are the same if not worse.
@@pb8185 have you considered your relatives burnt the letter themselves?
Because of the "surveillance state", women feel safe going out at night alone. If you go to China, you can see it's pretty common. Heck, some of my friends even let their kids, 10 year-olds, explore the city by themselves
The people seems to trust their government pretty well then.
But if that 10 year old meets his older brother on the streets?
Ok Chang.
@@jonnydoeson5562 You're welcome, Billy Bob
A nation of scared robots. Big brother in full power.
It's so funny, it seems there is no blue sky in China
learn more cutting art. you will see same picture in USA
China: pollution has got much much better
Media: find the most polluted day and make it in the video anyways
Strange that no hackers are targeting those systems.
I guess they just mysteriously dissapeared
Chinese hackers are patriotic
Of course hackers are targeting these systems but you don't hear about them because they are westerners 😉
Why did you use random footage of Korean cities in a clip about China and 0 mention of Korea?
Cuz they got only ten minutes to make up stories.......
Asia is Asia. What's the difference?
@@butterchuggins5409 Lol
"Imagine a boot stamping on a human face-for ever." - George Orwell
just want to point out that "smart city" infrastructure projects for the public and tech company's "privacy intrusion" aren't the same topic. they serve completely different purposes.
btw, as a photographer myself, what fafascinate me is that the news/documentory editors's preferences of color-grading on china clips are often lowering the contrast& saturation, lol.
Cause they want show everything about china is bad lol
@@MaxwellSunhw they must have some sort of color-grading presets called "china", "india", etc. just to get that "documentary" style.
@@georgegu3374 yeah lol
@Adrian Kennedy you know that bbc uk and bbc china once posted a same clip with different color-grading. uk version is the hazzy yellowish while the china team's more towards straight out of camera. bbc was crucified by china's state-owned media for the double standard. interesting enough
Go there yourself and see with your eyes. When there is endless smog it comes out as lowered contrast. No amount of color grading will fix it. In order to fix it, you need to film during major holidays or festivals where they force the factories to shut down. Or you film at night when a combination of post production, color grade and darkness enhances the perceived image quality.
More people actually are moving out of cities because we can actually work at home than in big expensive buildings. Best to afford a better house somewhere else than in a expensive city. We have delivery for our goods like Amazon. It wont be long until they realize that this is actually the better future.
You dont get it fully, china builds empty cities.
Look it up youll find ALOT of videos, do your own research. 🤓
@@paperxzone4938 China isn't the only country you should research.
The US does not give enough credit to China for their great contribution to mankind
Because it’s stolen first
@@antoniousmanonioussonofmin5057 it was japan tactic in the first place
@@antoniousmanonioussonofmin5057 It was a US technology brought to China by Prof.David Brady of Stanford U.The US government cut the research funding on him. A Chinese venture capitalist had injected 20 million US to his company and now listed in Nasdaq.
we've gotten too far, as humans. this all needs to stop
It’s only the beginning, chill.
@@EstevesxD Not sure if thats a reason to chill
Should bring this to Oakland
CCP bots in this thread like;
calling other countries illiberal is really American-style rudy
Westerner dont like camera because obviously their cops have a better solution to combat crime, based on the skin color of the suspect 😂😂😂
Lol
You guys are not different, chinese put cameras in your room n start arresting dudes, westerners put their camera on polices and start shootin stuff
@@archingelus no Chinese cops don't even carry guns, only suspected criminals are caught the cops don't usually stop random people and Chinese people aren't usually report someone as suspicious based on their similarities to George Floyd
@@americanidiotinchief259 i am pretty sure i never said chinese cops carrying gun in my comments
@@archingelus and I've never seen chinese government put camera in people's room
Big brother watches you
Success is not final; failure is not fatal: it is the courage to continue that counts."
I owe my success to having listened
respectfuly to the very best advice, and then going away and doing the exact opposite.
How do we get paid?
Is it through online investment platform?
Yes through online investment platform
i get paid directly to my bank account
Here's an idea for a future Bloomberg Quicktake -
"The folly and risks in demonizing and misunderstanding China"
This isn’t a China exclusive problem. Western Powers also have the same issue.
“Those who surrender freedom for security will not have, nor do they deserve, either one.”
The problem with this level of surveillance is that it won’t always keep you safe - it acts on the whim of politicians and local leaders. Then it becomes a question of who holds them to account?
it's funny that americans are concerned about chinese public surveillance
I think theyre concerned that this style of governance or something similar to it that leans more towards techno powered authoritarianism (technochracy? Facism? Etc) could be adopted in the US and/or in other democratic countries (see Australia?) without the public's consent or full understanding. In reality though it is happening thanks to the Covid-19 induced 'New Normal', or what Charles Schwab of the WEF refers to as 'The Great Reset', or what the UN referred to once as Agenda 21 or Agenda 2021 soon to been followed up by UN Agenda 2030 to finish the job!
Spies became totally disable in the smart city, lol
Is this a Chinese properganda comment ?
@@Drakosayso said the account with no cover photo.
Not when the system is feed bad data points
You are right, the CIA hates it so much, they are more dangerous in China than in Russia
They are more concerned with 1.5 billion people of China, we are dealing with a suppressive authoritarian regime who dosen't tolerate any degree of freedom of speech or criticism, so it obvious their goal is to make a tool to protect themselves from people of China at first place.
As a foreigner live in China , im Fine with those cameras, in some sense I like it even dance front of it .
Because most of my time I don’t lock my homes door , yeah you read it all right . My wife don’t lock door when I’m coming back at 3 am in the morning 😜
There is something even you have 2 million dollar you can’t buy it. The sense of safe. You feel safe In everyway, everyday . The past 5 years more and safer living in China. It different from 10 years ago. I saw change
where are you from?
I live in the US and we generally don't lock our doors either. Some people get their own cameras, which are increasingly cheap these days, others don't even bother simply because they have never had issues.. You don't need constant government surveillance to be safe and secure, just a healthy community. "Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety"
@@tjwoosta oh really! We went to San Diego, Las Vegas . We frightened by some homeless and drunkard . When travel back to China rental company call us the car was missing , but later found out it was ride out by the security guy on drop point . Actually I don’t know what the connections the surveillance with liberty , i don’t really find somethings limiting me with those cam. In some way I feel the law officer in China more lenient and talkable , there is no sense of suppression at all. I even made a fight few times with local end up by let me make peace with the opponents , forgiving each other’s, record plus critics letter. Then they leave me out
@@mj-rr7iy others Asia countries
Yeh, the UK and US are the best, especially comparision under Bloomberg report of China.
@@chasseausanglier3390 yeah,hahah. Just wondering how handling r those countries are for the case of covide only. There is no discrimination of my saying except only the facts
Smart? The real problem with Smart is it's over optimism. It tends to dishonesty & over exaggeration.
You were probably the type of person that doubted the internet, the car, the horse carriage, fire 😂
Not enough cameras. They should mount cameras on all buses and municipal vehicles too. These cameras will be mobile not stationary so they're harder to avoid.
Very impressive 👏
The Surveillance State?
@@dovbarleib3256 Living in China is fantastic mate, of course its hard for you to fathom when you get propganda fed down ya throat ;)
Very interesting.
Surveillance state means very low crime rate, like Seoul. I'd choose that over the lenient gun laws in the US
You'd prefer living in a digital police state instead of a country where you have civil rights, one of which is gun ownership?
LOL.
@@football42241 You know what, after school shooting, Scotland ban guns, and what happens next 20 years? No more school shooting. Simple as that.
@@football42241 You think South Koreans don't have civil rights?
What correlation do lenient guns have to do with mass technological surveillance….
@@akashdobhal9893 Not as much as America or other European nations actually.
Why the tone of this kind video talking about China growing is always so tense and negative?
Don’t you want to see other countries prosper? You wish US to be the only child of Mother Earth?
All bets are off when CCP is involved lol
Because american has a better way to deal with crime
The police will shoot you based on or skin color
ur watching a Bloomberg video and wondering why there is propaganda 🤦♂️🤦♂️
I want all people to prosper, but when the CCP hurts so many in order to grow and maintain order. You need to ask yourself: is there a better way?
@@christopherp.3307 Yes there is ask George Floyd
Bloomberg has not fully understand the Smart City concept. It is about digital transformation of everything, which is the core of this ambition.
American smart cites is all about digital transformation and new American dream while china is based on surveillance and suppression. Just look at US smart city in ..........
Let's pretend NYPD doesnt have 15,280 facial recognition cameras in Manhattan, Bronx and Brooklyn.
But I guess it's ok since Freedom™ 🤷🏻♂️
Why did they blur the bridge's name at the end?
These speakers are US citizens. I can tell
And this is how dangerous with business in china.If government want , how can you refuse ?
You snooze you lose
Why is China always look so gray? Is it air pollution or media using a filter lenses?
Mega pollution, they have so many factories and coal power plants
Seeing is believing, just go there for a visit, in the moment your arrived at your airport, you will realize...
@@steve-uo3lw I think he was joking, BBC recently got busted filtering the colour of trees to grey. The video was from a vlogger and he compared his vid to BBC. Why play these silly games?
@@terencekwong3033 no the bbc likes the gray filter looks better, they do it for top gear.
It is not as polluted as before anymore.
Uncle Xi needs to know what you are doing at all times.
Yes uncle Brandon on the other hand just let the police to combat crime based on the suspect skin color 😂
👨Ok
👨🏿 😭🤣
You are right, Mr CIA.
Uncle Sam ask Google to turn over 15000 personal data every day
Uncle Sam ask Google to turn over 15000 personal data every day
I think you should publish an issue on how America spies on Europe
I'm all for smart cities, but I draw the line at face recognition software. There should be a baseline of anonimity in being able to move through public spaces without being tracked in real time where you are and what you are doing. Using cameras to retrospectively look at crimes is okay, but only after you find out about the crime through other means.
Not realistic, if you have cameras everywhere someone will look at them and know where everyone was/is.
@@chrisiver8506 But a human won't be able to remember and recognize millions of faces, something that software can easily do.
While we debate risks to "privacy", China is winning the AI race.
True" Great country.
UK dancing to the tune of the US, straight up savage
Here in Australia, we have cameras in every street corner in the city and high speed camera in every highway. We never voted for such. I think Australia and alot Western nations are going towards that direction, just that China is pushing ahead faster...
Weird 60's music in the background detracts from the legitimacy and content. Expect better of bloomberg
I disagree
This is a propaganda piece. If you havent figure it out already.
They r not better than that
the cctvs are mainly for traffic monitoring and e-patrol by police dispatches, where they can replay crime scenes and pinpoint them faster as a chinese, i don't really mind(cus who has privacy these days) that and it does make me feel safer. We have a quite low crime rate, and traffic violations are reduced by a lots cus these cameras.
Quite interesting. Many from Tencent Video.
The USA should’ve pioneered smart cities but were lagging behind.
China "smart cities" is crime and censorship's ccp 😪
@@medoomedoo1634 but the diference is that i dont have to worry about if someone would kill me and steal my things
@@medoomedoo1634 Oh yeah?Black Lives Matter!
@@黄张赵刘 the difference is i can shot that robber dead and you cant in china
Smart cities require a lot of intervention which is against the American mentality of individual freedom
No, just use wallpaper.
Don't glass the doors.
?
Chinese people trust their politicians and government more than their counterparts in America.Walking down a street in the wee hours knowing the survalance system kept a close eye on unscrupulous and unsavoury conducts can be very reassuring.
Uh.. Isn't their a chip shortage. Like how.
Paying some personal privacy to get more safity, it's valueble for most Chinese people.
No it's not. They didn't choose it. And there's a lot of crimes that happen in China where the police just doesn't care.
Amazing china
Nothing smart or healthy about these smart cities.
cities designed around car are obsolete, not smart
False promises and real threats
Chinese people are ok with that. Why do you worry?
China will take over as the world's largest economy gdp wise. But in order aspects like wealth, technology and military power and per capita, china is still far behind, plus china economy is slowing down by alot.
Their GDP per capita will increase though and they also modernize their military, technologically they will also be more advanced eventually. I can admire the hard work of the Chinese people.
This is Chinese century 💪💪💪💪
you seem very happy about it, wonder what it means for the people suffering from it.
@@abartakbhattacharya4475 who is unless you’re standing against it
@@abartakbhattacharya4475 dont worry, there are so many people who just dont know anything whats going on in china and say only the stuff that they have seen, which in this case is “GoodStuff” because china never publish their “badstuff”
So what they do is brainwashing people like him which is really sad and as you can see it is working.
Fk china all countries should nuke china, spoken of innocent people there? No there arent any, huge amount of chinese do know that their regime is fked up but what do they do ? nothing, and the small amount that does something is just to small to make an impact, so that small protest amounts are being locked in prison nor vanished.
Yeah, right. Not including the demographic crisis, the crippling shortage of fundamental resources such as water, the financial & housing crises brewing underneath the surface, etc. Hell, all eyes are on China as of now due to the fallout of Evergrande lmao.
China can hardly keep it's current position of regional hegemony stable; a global world led by them is an impossibility.
@@billc6773 its not the rise of china its the rise of the CCP.
The only one Problem is where the Solar Wave Hit the Earth
800 billion eh, cheaper than afghanistan then.
Nothing about smart tech.. just a story about china
This is propoganda
Buddy,.. everything you see on media is propaganda
@@espkh1549 The guy below me is quoting George Orwell, someones gotta let em' know.
I support this
Basically in China :
Efficiency and Economic growth >>>>> Safety and democracy.
True. And it’s not even as safe as people believe, you might not get attacked as often as América but if you do your dead. Since most Chinese citizens won’t help you in fear of getting sued. A few days ago I saw a child get run over by the buss and nobody did nothing and it got run over by 2 more cars till the mom came
@@supergamergrill7734 That will improve once societal standards improve.
Smart cities in China is a threat to the US and the West? With that kind of mentality, you can imagine the type and nature of the people, the country and the intentions behind such thought.